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MaxInDHouse:
The faithless miscreant thought i will make it easy for him to start throwing tantrums when i have planned how to humiliate all of them.

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses

Whoever is confident of his religion should come out and prove yourselves.

We all know that there are countless religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines so stop hiding behind the anonymous forms of worship and come out plainly. Revelations 6:16

Let's put your faith to the test! 1Peter 1:7

cornelboy:
I'm done with the thread

The faithless miscreant thought i will make it easy for him to start throwing tantrums when i have planned how to humiliate all of them.

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses

Whoever is confident of his religion should come out and prove yourselves.

We all know that there are countless religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines so stop hiding behind the anonymous forms of worship and come out plainly. Revelations 6:16

Let's put your faith to the test! 1Peter 1:7

cornelboy:
Ọmọ wetin you dé find here 🤡

She didn't know why they're all HIDING so she thought it's that easy!

See the MOUNTAIN standing tall above all the others:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION! Isaiah 2:2; Matthew 5:14-15

preciousee17:
Question!
The funniest thing you both don't know is that I don't do stray argument that much.
I'm not a part of this argument but I'm watching and waiting.
I'm more interested in false teachings under the disguise of scriptures so naturally, I don't have a say here.

2. I'm not even free and would love to say more to both parties but, I'm quite busy. Cos apart from the fact that I understand why this argument is coming up, I think it's very much uncalled for.

3. I've never asked you guys to introduce your religion to me and all I've learnt is by myself. Carry out your research likewise. We have websites, social media, everything open online.

Jesus didn't say people will SEARCH for his real disciples rather it's his real disciples that will go and search for people in their private homes throughout the world {Matthew 10:11-13} that's why our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus could confidently say:

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens" Matthew 5:14-16

So if your religion is not known the way Jesus foretold about his group then it simply means you're not worshiping with his group!

@ preciousee17

Do you have anything to say about your unknown religion or you're still thinking of what to say?

preciousee17:
I came to see a better argument.
What's all these?
Can't you guys rep your Churches if y'all feel so right?
I rep God's Lighthouse BTW.

You don't know why they're all shying away shey?
Well i will help you!

Nobody here know a single thing about your so called lighthouse so can you say a little about your religion so that everyone here can have a glimpse of what you people believe?

If you ask these people here about Jehovah's Witnesses almost everyone including you will have one or two things to say about the light that's seen globally like the sun! Matthew 5:14-15

So a brief introduction of your church!

cornelboy:
A no understand why é no fit answer.
No person on this Nairaland on religion section has ever answered that question 🤔

But dem fit talk and slander about others religion while hiding theirs 🤡

Let me shock you!

Jesus said about faithless miscreants:

Then they will start saying to the mountains, ‘Fall over us!’ and to the hills, ‘Cover us over!’ Luke 23:30

He repeated it when revealing sacred secrets to John the apostle:

And they keep saying to the mountains and to the rocks: “Fall over us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, because the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” Revelations 6:16-17

Now this is the meaning of that scripture:

Mountains represents forms of worship but the truth will stand out amidst all of them! Isaiah 2:2 compare to Matthew 5:14-15


Now why are they calling for MOUNTAINS to fall over them?

Remember they don't want to stand before the lamb (Jesus Christ) whom we have identified as our Master, Lord and King.

So each of them will continue to claim they're worshipers of God but what is the name of their religion? They will hide behind the anonymous forms of worship: MOUNTAINS

cornelboy:
🤦🏾‍♂️
What religion do you practise?
If you don't have just say it 🤷🏾‍♂️

Jesus said:

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house" Matthew 5:14-15

No wonder people from different religions are SEEING just one group as if there's no other!

QUESTION:
What is the name of your religion?
ANSWER:
I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

cornelboy:
What religion do you practise?

A million dollar question!

descarado:
Why will they?
I was once a member.
Just that I don't have the strength and time for their argument here.
I once took one of them to the cleaners here, he literally ran away. Begged him to come back and continue, he said I won, I should let it rest.

Let them be.
All religion in this world is a cult. In each you have the inner caucus that run the organisation who controls the power and do the sacrifices. Most members are very blind to what happens inside unless you are the inquisitive type. All the cults in this world are offsprings of religions so let them be as All religion are guilty.

Confession time!

And a highway will be there, Yes, a way called the Way of Holiness. The unclean one will not travel on it. It is reserved for the one walking on the way; No one foolish will stray onto it. Isaiah 35:8 compare to Matthew 7:13-14

cornelboy:

It's not for the atheists. Even the misinformed church goers might not agree with that.
I'm just expressing my understanding of the matter to you.

Of course that's the weapon he's holding against them since they believe their God has destined everything the atheist has been given the upper hand to rubbish their God who knew and destined everything to make them suffer!

cornelboy:
You criticize the JWs but you're hiding your religion 😂🤦🏾‍♂️🤡

They are Satan's agents discarded by angels after Jesus has called out his people out of Babylon the Great! Revelations 18:4

They are all ashamed of their discarded sects because there's nothing they can prove about the bunches in which they're grouped by the angels discarding Satan's agents! Matthew 13:30

We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

None of them can boldly come out to say "this is the name of my church" because they have to prove the FRUIT they're producing {Matthew 7:16-18} just as i have substantiated using the full strength of the scriptures!

cornelboy:
Thank you sir.
Jesus was the founder of true Christianity.
True Christianity was lost along the way and the JWs are the only group restoring it. Simple!

Ọmọ they will cry tire because i will only speak about the founder of Christianity and wait to see any of them prove their group the same way i did.
Of course only Jehovah's Witnesses are doing God's will today going by what the scriptures say!

MaxInDHouse:
FOUNDER

The word founder means someone who found or established something.
Therefore before we can say someone is the founder of a group their believes and teachings must be established by him or her.

The name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" was FOUNDED 15 years after the death of Russell in line with Isaiah 43:10.

Jehovah's Witnesses are preaching from house to house and door to door just as Jesus of Nazareth commanded his disciples @ Matthew 10:11-13 this Russell never did nor taught all his life.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate birthdays, Christmas and Easter because all these stem from pagan traditions but Russell celebrated all these till his death in 1916.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't attach religious titles like Pastor, Prophet etc to their names but Russell was known as PASTOR Russell until his death.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't use symbols like cross or others in their worship but Russell used the Cross in his time.

From the above analysis it's evident that Charles Taze Russell can't be rightly called the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization.

So who is the founder of this group?

Let's consider what the Bible say first to know the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses then compare to what Jesus of Nazareth taught perhaps there's any correlation because they always claim everything they practice is in accord with Jesus' teachings could it be that Jesus is actually the founder of this group?

To be continued...

When Jesus of Nazareth walked this planet he commissioned a group with the purpose of making disciples of people of all the nations {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} this disciples are supposed to fulfil what God promised in the Bible book of Isaiah chapter 2:2-4 repeated at Micah chapter 4:1-3.
According to that prophecy people from all nations throughout the earth will form a global family of peace loving worshipers under one umbrella, they will use what is found in God's word to settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, they will divert all their resources into production of food and information materials, they will erase the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons in the hearts of all their members and they will all vow never to raise weapons against anyone again!

So with this they will prove to be the subjects who has been COUNSELED under the PRINCE of PEACE {Isaiah 9:6} and due to their LOVE for neighbours {Mark 12:31} and the LOVE, JOY and PEACE permeating their gathering all sincere observers will know that they're truly the disciples of that first century Jewish young carpenter Jesus who is called CHRIST! John 13:34-35

Jesus of Nazareth said something about his real disciples!
They will not partake in worldly politics {John 17:14} because with politics the LOVE he taught them can't work as they will be divided against themselves {Luke 11:23} and end up becoming instruments in the hands of politicians to kill their neighbours even their fellow believers {Revelations 6:3-4} Jehovah's Witnesses have achieved this throughout the earth among all their members. So if you're hearing of WARS of any kind know that Jesus' disciples are not involved in any way because he commanded them to be cautious as serpents and harmless as doves! Matthew 10:16

Satan wants mankind to be destroyed so he's also working really hard to make sure Jesus' work failed that's why he quickly established his own agents right in the gathering of Jesus' first century disciples {Matthew 13:25} but Jesus promised that both his own disciples and Satan's agents will continue worshiping together until the endtime when he will send out his angels to separate his true disciples from among Satan's agents {Matthew 13:26-30} of course this will lead to troubles because during the separation time the hatred for Jesus' real disciples will become great {John 15:19} Satan will pull all his agents together and despite the contradictions among them they will hate Jesus' disciples with passion {Matthew 24:9} but the whole world will see Jesus' true disciples as if they're standing on mountain top that cannot be hidden! Matthew 5:14-16

With all these it's evident that Charles Taze Russell was one of the workers in Jesus' vineyard so as an imperfect human he can't know all the things the Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus will teach his endtime followers that's why Russell only operates within his own understanding till his death but trust Jesus he keeps adjusting his group so that they keep improving in their understanding of truth {Proverbs 4:18} definitely Charles Taze Russell can't be rightly called the founder of this wonderful group rather they real founder is the person whose words and teachings they're putting to good use: Jesus of Nazareth

After 15 year of consistent adjustment Jesus' father was satisfied with the quick response of this group because by the time Jesus returned to this planet he couldn't find the faith he taught back in the first century {Luke 18:8} so when this group have started fulfilling God's will as recorded in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 Jesus' father began calling them by another group name:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

cornelboy:
How are you today

I will TEACH all of them who truly is the founder of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION!

This is the thread that will expose all the founders of their sects because i will show them how real founders of religions have strong influence on the teachings and beliefs of such religion even after the demise of their founder!

FOUNDER

The word founder means someone who found or established something.
Therefore before we can say someone is the founder of a group their believes and teachings must be established by him or her.

The name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" was FOUNDED 15 years after the death of Russell in line with Isaiah 43:10.

Jehovah's Witnesses are preaching from house to house and door to door just as Jesus of Nazareth commanded his disciples @ Matthew 10:11-13 this Russell never did nor taught all his life.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate birthdays, Christmas and Easter because all these stem from pagan traditions but Russell celebrated all these till his death in 1916.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't attach religious titles like Pastor, Prophet etc to their names but Russell was known as PASTOR Russell until his death.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't use symbols like cross or others in their worship but Russell used the Cross in his time.

From the above analysis it's evident that Charles Taze Russell can't be rightly called the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization.

So who is the founder of this group?

Let's consider what the Bible say first to know the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses then compare to what Jesus of Nazareth taught perhaps there's any correlation because they always claim everything they practice is in accord with Jesus' teachings could it be that Jesus is actually the founder of this group?

To be continued...

cornelboy:
That's completely dishonest.
Dem go argue tire lol
For example, when Satan was tempting eve and Adam, God could see what was happening but he didn't know how it would ended because of the free will he gave man. He couldn't control it. He had most likely trusted Adam to make the right choice but he was disappointed. Yet God has the ultimate power to predict the future accurately.
He indeed has a future he's planned for us

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Cornelboy!

Atheists will never agree with you on the highlighted because they wish everyone is as easy as misinformed religionists that they can push here and there with their schemes!

advocatejare:
Is it your thread? Let me derail it, if you’re proud of your organization tell us who the founder is

Ọmọ do the needful jọọ.

I want a fresh thread where everyone will see what you want to know and how skillfully i will enlighten you just as i did here regarding the Old and New Covenant!

advocatejare:
You that know the meaning of founder: who is the founder of Jehovah Witnesses Organization?

Don't derail this thread.

Start another with the topic:

Who is the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

Then i will teach you what the word FOUNDER means then both of us can figure out who founded the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Until then, cheers!

Dtruthspeaker:
What you have just said and the way you said it, is exactly the definition and example of the Lie called fallacy.

https://www.nairaland.com/7807521/see-another-reason-why-god#125372593

Perhaps you're dreaming when you typed that gibberish shey?

Next time think before you type.

If girls are Satan's seed then killers of Deborah Samuel have done you a lot of good!

advocatejare:
Are you ready to answer my questions now:
Are you guys wife abusers like Russel? Do you people of JW cult subject your wives to mental torture like Russel founder of your cult did his wife? Or you people have realized that Russel’s lifestyle is not worth emulating? Are you JW cult members failing in the simple task of keeping your home together like Russel?
Are you following Jesus’ stance on divorce or you’re divorcing your wives like Russel your founder did?

Why do you want to derail your own thread?

Ọmọ this is what you think about the God of Muslims so if you're interested in knowing who the founder of Christianity is just open another thread then we can discuss fully.

It's obvious you don't know the meaning of the word "FOUNDER" so let's start from there.

Until then, cheers!

cornelboy:
Even the definition of Omniscient is not ambiguous. It's simply "having total knowledge". God has the total knowledge of the universe, how it all started, how it works, what it's made of, how long it's been existing et cetera. That knowledge doesn't include our choices between good and bad and the outcome of our choices. And there's nothing like destiny. Nothing is fixed.

Atheists will not agree with you because that word to them means God should be able to determine what each intelligent beings with freewill would turn out to be!

advocatejare:
Ok

Alright!

Dtruthspeaker:
Cc:Janosky
See how you prove that jws are lying twisting devils? And that lying and wickedness and twisting is in una blood (soul)? Even something as clear as this you devils just must do evil and lie just to score an evil point. Clear proof that you people are devils and children of Satan.

You said:
"girls are are Satan's seed"
Deborah Samuel is a girl and some people burnt her alive perhaps because they discovered she's one of Satan's seeds!

cornelboy:
What do you mean by all knowing and Omniscient?

What those misinformed religionists concluded and wrote in the dictionary is what he wanted to use as the bases of his judgment.
Omniscient is a presumptuous term because the true God knows how everything He created works but as for what each intelligent mind will choose to do between good and evil that largely depends on the disposition of the person in question.

cornelboy:
Yes sir I understand perfectly.
Though Moses was like a God, the children of Israel couldn't not revere him in their heart as God and worship him. And doesn't make him a false God
At the same time, Jehovah is the only one God and only him we owe our life to and worship.

Just simple!

jaephoenix:
I have never seem you argue with atheists to know about us. So why should I argue with you to know about JW?

Ọmọ if you don't believe in God noone will force you but whatever question you have we will answer to show you what we believe that's working out perfectly among us.

jaephoenix:
Definitions don't update. Its the language that is.
The definitions don't change.
Learn English language. I suggest you begin from kindergarten

Go and use English cohabit peacefully with your neighbours and forget about whether God exist or not!

advocatejare:
This is the most sensible thing you have written since I know you on this platform.
Sense is coming to you gradually!

Because it's in support of what you're trying to say shey?
Well i'm speaking for my own God not yours!

Stellar360:
Jews don't go around looking for who to convert.

So go worship the God of your own forefathers and stop running after other people's God because they don't give a damn about you.

Stellar360:
Well, I like that you ended your erroneous speculations with "We don't worship Jesus".
I remember asking you to point out the inconsistencies you mentioned in your previous response, which you didn't.
And that means you're telling lies. I'll forgive that. I don't appreciate condescendingly calling people with deferring views and beliefs names, I never called you any since the beginning of our discourse.
Stop quoting the new testaments whose authors aren't known, to prove your point.
And if you say the Torah is corrupted, why have it in your bible?
There's something you still don't get or are choosing not to understand. Jesus was a Jew, He live as one and died as one.
And did you just say the book of isaiah was changed? You must be extremely delusional to even come up with such an absurd claim. I remember posting something about that scripture, and just to be clear that was gotten from the tanakh, where you christians got your old testament from, before the whole translation spree began.

It's OK.
So can you quote anywhere in your Tanakh where the Israelites God asked them to go and preach to people of other nations?

Please tell me how you got in contact with Jews if you're not one by birth because the only people that came to my house to preach are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES supposedly obeying the order given by Jesus of Nazareth.

So tell me who preached Judaism to you!