₦airaland Forum

davidylan: you could go on and have a life rather than spending 90% of your time moaning about a God you know doesnt exist no?

Pastor Olu T: I laugh at all you intellectuals, soon you will know where true wisdom lies for wisdom is justified by her children.

Carry on the good work bro @ yooguys

Ihedinobi: Hmmm, let's see what you did here, shall we?

Ihedinobi: How do you know that God doesn't exist - that is, that your claim of God's inexistence is true?

mazaje: By...(more and more claims mazaje is yet to prove)...

Excellent!

Ihedinobi: Lemme give you a hint then, sort of an insight on finding the Achilles' heel in my argument, if there is one, mm.

Go through my previous explanations on the timelessness of God and identify where "yes and no" fail to cover them. Then hit me with those spots and if I sink, voila, you've won

OLAADEGBU: Do you even understand yourself? What does the word bedfellow mean in English parlance?

Ihedinobi: Then atheism is a claim too. A disbelief in God is a claim. How do you know that God doesn't exist?

Ihedinobi: Well, one big difference I understand about quantum computing is that it can do more than an on/off sequence, can deal with more than 0/1 problems. In other words, a quantum computer can deal with gray areas and overlaps.

Yes and no, thus, would make sense to a quantum computer, in fact, it can produce answers of that nature. Everyone knows that there are grey areas in life except maybe ostriches that bury their heds in the sand.

Anyway, all the explanation that I have given concerning the question in question hehe is fully captured in my "yes and no". All you have to do is read them again.

Nairaland religion section - where the children of God are being smitten with their own swords...

OLAADEGBU: Don't be a jackanapes. Would you then receive Jesus as your personal Saviour and Lord if I explain the "disputed" verse to you?

Ihedinobi: Do you know how quantum computing differs from digital computing?

Yooguyz: if i had known, i shouldn't have wasted my time writing to you because you have already made up your mind on what you want to believe. It is very obvious that dis Daren brown is an attention seeker, if what he is saying is true, why didn't he raise questions about the people had their legs lengthened in Hagins ministry, strange ugh? Suprisely you never asked me about the hand lengthening that happened at CEC?

Pastor Olu T: Atheists
always expects to see miracles and God doing something spectacular
before their eyes so they could believe. Have you ever wondered why
Jesus never revealed Himself when he resurrected to anyone who did not yet
believe in Him while alive.
Not even the Pharisees who killed Him in order to convince them, if its any one today
that's what he would do to convince his critics, the answer is simple, it is called
FAITH.

Ihedinobi: Why would I want to do you that sort of favor?

And there isn't a single one of those complaints that I have not satisfied with an explanation. Still waiting on you to show what's wrong with the explanations beyond the fact that you don't like them.

ednut1: well said, it is either chronic pulmonary vien disorder, hole in the hearth or na a$$, optical oblangata syndrome, they can heal( which is staged)

Mortiple: @poster
What is your point?

I can't agree less with this popular saying "Idle mind is the devil's workshop".

O boy, go and get yourself busy.

Ihedinobi: So, you agree that new Christians are not made by existential debates.

Nice.

striktlymi: ...and you know this because?

Are you saying that the Apostles secured the spread of Christianity by making millions of babies and indoctrinating them?

Anyways, I was born a pagan, got indoctrinated as one but found Christianity as an adult which renders your 'Einstein-like' theory above false.

Heatblast: Lol... Mine also believes in all that nonsense too, and every time I remember this, I just keep my disbelief to my self.

Heatblast: Hahaha....I'm in the same situation, my mom is deeply religious, I just wonder if I'm ever going to tell her...

frosbel: wrong.

I was born again into the faith and millions like me experienced the same spectacular phenomenon , I was not born into the faith , mark the difference.

Ihedinobi: For those of you making an issue out of the fact that there are no testimonies of how the arguments on NL has made anyone a Christian, I ask you, are new Christians made like that?

For those who are rejoicimg that arguments helped them find their atheism, well, it is precisely in warfare that the real men are known. It is in the face of antagonism that true Christians are separated from the false. Not saying anything about other religious persuations though.

NL member: You want proof?
Ok, look around you. See how perfect the world is? The sun and moon are in perfect orbit, if there was even 1cm difference between them then life on earth will be impossible.
That shows that God created the world.

onyfrank: dnt lie. Well, anytn goes 4 atheist. Bt i knw u ar lieing.

striktlymi: Good morning Mazaje,

I am of the opinion that your thoughts above are on point...so many things are meaningless; how can a Universe just emerge out of nowhere?...how come the Earth is round and not rectangular or flat?...so many meaningless things but the fact that we have no idea why these are does not make them any less the truth.

Omnipotence should answer that question I believe! Think of it this way...an inventor invents a computer and made a virtual world where everything in that world is subject to something close to time without he himself being subject to it...if this inventor has the ability of being part of that virtual world and decides to go in there to interact with his creations, does that mean he necessarily is subject to the computer time?

Note that the fact that some things seem logically incompatible now does not mean that they will remain outside the sphere of logic forever...some millenia ago, who could have thought it logically possible for man to fly in the air or be in the sea for months without drowning?

What defines impossibility for us really has something to do with what humans have decided makes sense for them...trust me, if the concept of married bachelor is espoused and developed, giving it meaning over time and becomes generally accepted, you will definitely find that concept in the lexicon before a thousand years is over; and it would make perfect sense for us then.

I am quite impressed with your thought process...they seem to be very much on point. Why haven't I been conversing with you when it would make good sport for me...

Now let's put this in proper perspective...shall we?...

Emotions can be defined thus:

e·mo·tion
/iˈmōSHən/
Noun
1. A natural instinctive state of mind deriving from one's circumstances, mood, or relationships with others.

2. Any of the particular feelings that characterize such a state of mind, such as joy, anger, love, hate, horror, etc.

If we go with the following definitions then we can see at a glance that emotions really have little to do with the feelings we exhibit but on the manner in which we exhibit such feelings. For instance, when an individual pretends to cry, we can't say that that individual is being emotional.

The simple reason would be that emotions has to do with the natural inclination of the mind to exhibit such feelings instinctively...it needs not be forced or induced. I know that example is quite hollow but work with me on this:

When a child you love steals from you but you really are not angry (in the sense that you are not moved instinctively to demonstrate your feelings) but know that you need to punish the child anyways for what he did...you tell the child that he is grounded for a month, just saying.

Would it be inappropriate to say that you were angry with the child to demonstrate what just transpired between you and that child? Or do you think it would be out of place for that child to tell his friends that he can't steal any more because his father would be angry with him?

The dad obviously did not react due to his emotions but the simple fact that his actions tend to suggest so would make everyone think otherwise. The same can be applied to God. He need not act out of emotions but his justice, mercy etc can be mistaken for emotions like anger, compassion etc.

onyfrank: what i am saying is that I didnt canvassed 4 it.
U can win d whole lots of 9ja contracts, i am nt bordered, bt what i wana tell u is that PRAYER works and i personally exprienced it.