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 Christianity Etc › Re: A Fish Did Not Write This Essay by mazaje(m): 10:53am On Jun 23, 2012 |
Richard Carrier is an eloquent writer. . .. |
| Islam › Re: Why Do Nigerian Christians Hate Islam??? by mazaje(m): 10:12am On Jun 22, 2012 |
proo212: But Lagosshia, Iran and Iraq as countries are majority Shia, still Christians suffer persecution. OK I have not heard of churches being bombed in Iran but there are tons of evidence to back up church being bombed in Iraq and Christians are persecuted in both these countries.“Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allaah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allaah and His Messenger (Muhammad), (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (al-Tawbah 9:29) |
| Islam › Re: Why Do Nigerian Christians Hate Islam??? by mazaje(m): 8:49pm On Jun 21, 2012 |
^^ Some of them are actually saying that already. . . |
| Islam › Re: Why Do Nigerian Christians Hate Islam??? by mazaje(m): 4:33pm On Jun 21, 2012*. Modified: 8:51pm On Jun 21, 2012 |
vedaxcool: Oh! poor creature, reasoning is indeed something I wish most people can do, but we know wishes can't be horses can they?Imagine who is talking about reasoning?. . .Ohh deluded creature, the fact that you are the one singing your self praises on how you can reason and how to show others how to reason says it all. . .Many have recommended other people's ability to reason here and I have seen what others have written about you. I know how sweet delusion is. . .keep singing yourself praises of delusion. . . . Since you still have left reasoning to the reasonable people of the world i re-summerize what I wrote :Firstly, BH is not the only islamic group that goes around killing others as a religious duty. The koran as rightly pointed out by BH encourages muslims to fight against infidels for their unbelief. . . .Its there in the koran. The fact that some muslims chose not to obey what allah allegedly says is their business. . After all the koran also says that fighting was prescribed for you but you dislike it. . . .It is there in the koran. . . Surah9:29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low. BH did not start to kill people after they were attacked, tell the lies to the birds, they were attacked because they were killing people. No government will just go about attacking people for no reason. . .Pls stop misusing the word fact here, its obvious you do not know what it means. BH first started attacking police stations not muslims. Many muslims have used the verses in the koran to kill non muslims, that's is why when America invaded Afgahnistan muslims were up in arms in kano killing the infidels in 2001. . .When the miss world saga went down, the same muderous slaves of allah with the inspiration of the koran went about killing the infidels. . .When the cartoon saga broke out, same murderous slaves of allah went about killing people in kano, kaduna etc while chanting allah is great. There is something inherently violent about islam, that is why muslims are alywas killing others as a religious duty. 4. Meaning Mazaje is not reasoning as he should FACTNow you are lying, I said muslims are always killing others as a religious duty. Never said it is a religious duty for muslims to kill, but muslims are always killing infidels as a religious. Watch the videos of all the islamic terrorist groups and non terrorist groups. Allah is great is the name they chat when killing others. . When killing they always let people know that they are doing it for allah and his religion. There are countless videos of muslims killing, beheading and hanging people in the name of allah and islam. Why are scietologist or the follower of Vishnu doing that?. . . 6.Mazaje figures if you go rob a man and shout MAzaje! Mazaje!! it means Mazaje is inspired you to rob? we ask who reasons like this except the dullards of the world? FACT remains because you chant something does not mean that is what makes you do what you even idoit$ would wonder when you hit your leg on a stone and say ouch! does it mean Ouch was what made you hit you leg? Man This sort of dullards i spent time refuting previous in talks with mazajeWhat am I to do with this imbecilic analogy?  . Any body with an ability to reason will not throw out this imbecilic analogy. No body has ever gone out to rob in my name and I have never asked any body to do that. But your koran is full of verses where allah urges people to hate the unbelievers and fight them. When you look at the videos of BH and other people that kill for allah as a religious duty, they are CONSTANTLY reciting those verses where allah commands them to fight the unbelievers. Surah 9:29 is inside the koran and was used by BH as one of the divine injunctions for fighting the unbelievers as a religious duty. . .There are many verses that state that allah dislikes the unbelievers and calls for them to be killed for their unbelief. . .BH and many other muslims recite it.7. Recently the NSA to the FG claimed that the BH were members of the PDP, indicating the internal politics of the ruling party created the sudden resurgence of BH FACT meaning these people do not have religion at their heart but political supremacy, this is what every fool knows, furthermore the NSA claimed that it was impossible that the same BH that the FG routed with ease could become so powerful within such a short period of time (2009 - 2011). To cap it a lot of Nigerians are beginning to see BH as being the Govt. own conspiracy against the people, as the same govt. was implicated by a MEND activist recently in a SA court as being behind the oct 1st attacks, which literally commenced the season of Bombing. the Bh issue remains one that has baffled the generality of Nigerians, as they have killed more muslims than Christians in the process, people have used BH as a front to achieve an unstated purpose, even terrorism tend to have an end game, but well all this will sound to much for our friend who does not want to even reason for just a bit and that my friends is a FACT!BH is not the only islamic terrorist organization in the world. . . Muslims have been killing christians as a religious duty in northern Nigeria for a very long time. . . .In fact the last time Bonnke was supposed to visit kano, many muslims went about killing christians in the name of allah. . . .A guy saw a copy of the koran in the toilet in university of maiduguri some years back and muslims went about killing the unbelievers while chanting allah is great. . .Cartoon saga in Denmark and muslims were up in arms killing christians in the name of allah in some northern states. BH is just an extension of what is on ground. . . First you threw the pictures of your atheist brothers and their Christians allies dressed up like arabs which even a fools would know by wanting to REASON and THINK! NOW HE THROWS A NEW ONE, there are jewish muslims enjoying people to join the sensible path of Islam, that even Hausa bigot atheists would be ashamed of, Jesus in the bibles calls the jewish leadership all sort of names, even moses cursed them, the Quran refereed to them as the children of the book, but lets not allow the dullards to take us away from the substance of the thread as we see in a thread by thaba how muslims help the jews and saved them from the Nazis (influenced by an atheist philosophy. The atheist live and dine by cherry picking fallacy, this always show that most nl atheist are hardly close being sound nor are they the type capable of serious in-depth thinking! i expect him to throw more pictures, that is what they know how to do and that represent to them the zenith of that their intellects can produced in any discourse lolThey are well known muslims demonstrating during the mohammed cartoon saga in england. . .Jesus was a Jew so was moses, so what the hell are you talking about?. . .Mohammed and his allah commanded his followers to hate the jews and christians and that is what his followers are doing the world over. . .The preacher in the video says that jews are eternal enemies, and the enmity was sanctioned by allah in the koran. . . 9:123 O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him). |
| Romance › Re: Reasons For Rejection Of Marriage Proposals by mazaje(m): 9:04pm On Jun 20, 2012 |
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| Islam › Re: Why Do Nigerian Christians Hate Islam??? by mazaje(m): 6:32pm On Jun 19, 2012 |
vedaxcool: Still finding it hard to reason? watch how you lame thoughts are dispelled like the fickle brain that thought them out!Re-read the nonsense you spewed there and laugh at your stupidity. . . The real question i ask is how does one read the above and claim it is position of Islam? you still have not answered, when did BH commenced it attacks on christians? clearly they have been n existence for quite some time? so common sense should have made u reason and conclude as follows, BH only started its attack on muslims then non muslims when the govt raided their hideout and killed a substantial number of their members, which is clearly what made them start out their terrorism, no muslim kill infidel as a religious duty as the religion does not impose such duty on adherents, common sense would make even the fool$ of the world reason and wonder why the majority of muslims do not practice such a religious duty, when we know some people are worse than the fool$ of the world when common sense is required to reason!Because Islam encourages people to kill others for allah. . . .There are many passages encourages muslims to fight the infidels and unbelievers, after all it is written in some passages that allah dislikes the unbelievers. . .Surah 9:29 and many like it are found in the koran. . . . .No wonder you can lie that BH started attacking people when government raided their hide out. . .Are you excusing them?. . .BH started attacking police stations and government offices which lead to the government assault against them during yaradua. . .They were using the koran to justify those attacks even at the time, so tell your lies to the birds. . .Many muslims kill as a religious duty that is why many muslims majority countries are never in peace today, must are waging religious wars against their gonvernments, other sects, or unbeliever all in the name of islam. . .Every little thing the slaves of allah are up in arms killing people while chanting allahu akbar. . .When killing they read from the koran and when calling for jihad the calls are mostly from the mosques. . .I am a hausa man and have witnessed so many religious crisis in kano, kaduna and bauchi. . .Once there is a problem the mosques go off and the calls for jihad begins. . .People are then forced to kill others as a religious duty. . only a fool will deny this FACT. . .Many muslims make killing infidels as part of their religious duty, the fact that some don't do it doesn't mean that many do not engage in it. . . There is something actually inherent dumb about atheists who became atheist to be passed on as being smart, as simpletons would always answer questions with the wrong answers as the above is not even close to answering what i wrote, that people like you are brainwashed in believing what you believe of IslamThe history of islam as a peaceful religion is a lie that only deluded goons will pass as historical facts. . . and we know those are atheist like mazaje working to soil the image of islamhttps://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/behead-those-who-insult-islam.jpg Its good to deny the facts, you can deny it all you want but we know the fact. . .Here is one of your brothers in the video below spewing the normal nonsense, claiming that jews are eternal enemies and are to be hated by all muslims regardless of weather the leave palestine or not. . .Muslims are to hate jews and christians because allah sanctions it. . .Hate jews, hate infidels, hate hate hate. . .Your religion teaches that. . .The verses they read from are all in your koran, you can call them atheist all you want that is your business. . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X8dhrzQCHY&feature=relmfu |
| Islam › Re: Why Do Nigerian Christians Hate Islam??? by mazaje(m): 11:24am On Jun 19, 2012 |
proo212: Lagosshia, bravo. What you are failing to realise or perhaps you do is that more and more people are gaining knowledge about islam. Thank GodNon of them wants to touch surah 9:29. . . .Or is boko haram reading from a different koran?. . . |
| Islam › Re: Why Do Nigerian Christians Hate Islam??? by mazaje(m): 6:28pm On Jun 18, 2012 |
vedaxcool: It is a pity after spending considerable time teaching you how to reason in this thread https://www.nairaland.com/723007/tai-solarin-life-ideas-accomplishments/2#8853767 you still exhibit the same failure to reason in any little way possibleHow can you educate me when you have not finished educating yourself?. . .Re read the thread and laugh at the nonsense you spewed there. . . . how else does some one read the above statement and conclude that this is tyhe position of Islam,Why do muslims love killing infidels as a religious duty?. . .When islamic terrorist go about killing what name do the chant and which book do they recite from when justifying their murders?. . .Watch all the clips of muslim terrorist, the koran is what the hold in their hands, and passages that justify the murder of infidels is what the recite so what the heck are you saying?. . .Why are muslims always killing in the name of allah? Did boko haram and other muslim terrorist write their own koran?. . .Why do muslims always kill infidels as a religious duty?. . . when entire history of Islam keeps showing tolerance etc, when tonnes of refutation have been given well op when dealing with nlanders you shouldn't really waste your time wondering why, coz from every indication the worst of atheism and christianity linger here backing each other up, this same individuals do not represent what the average christian think mosty christians are ignorant of islam because we muslims have failed in taking the true message of islam to them while others make lies and slander their sure way to heaven, christians during the time when tyhe pope was the Pope with regal and divine authority trained their subjects to hate Muhammad and Islam, it is this sort of beahvior thatthe atheists and unfortunately most christians have fallen victim of, but we on our path can only contnue to educate and urge them to listen to that good part that is within them and give peace a chance!Yemen, Pakistan, Iraq, Somalia, Mali, Northern Nigeria, etc are all muslim majority places and we know the type of peace islam promotes right?. . .There is something inherently violent about islam, you can bury your head in the sand if that makes you happy. . . May Allah guide them and destroy all the false propaganda against islam. aminhttps://doodiepants.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/behead-those-who-insult-islam.jpg |
| Islam › Re: Why Do Nigerian Christians Hate Islam??? by mazaje(m): 3:47pm On Jun 18, 2012 |
We want all Christians to convert to Islam – Boko Haram The Jama’atu Ahlus Sunnati Lidda’awati Wal Jihad, otherwise known as Boko Haram has claimed responsibility for the bombing of three churches that claimed about 50 lives and scores injured in the northern cities of Zaria and Kaduna on Sunday. The sect spokesperson, Abu Qaqa in a statement said the multiple attacks was a reprisal of Christians’ past killings of Muslims and vandalism of Mosques in Zonkwa, Yelwan Shendam, Tafawa Balewa, where they said Mosques were turned into brothels and drinking joints, while Christians continue to carry on with impunity and government support. The however affirmed that for peace to reign, Christians must all convert to Islam. The statement reads in part: “Today (Sunday) Almighty Allah has given us victory against Christian Churches in Kaduna and Zaria which led to the deaths of many Christians and security operatives.” The statement also claimed that Almighty Allah has tasked all Muslims in Quran chapter 9 v 29 to launch attack against Jews and Christians who refused to believe in him, his messenger, Prophet Mohammed. The radical sect also affirmed that attacks against Christian children and women would continue, since security personnel now attack their women and children. http://dailypost.com.ng/2012/06/18/we-want-all-christians-to-convert-to-islam-boko-haram/?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=we-want-all-christians-to-convert-to-islam-boko-haram The question is did boko haram write their own version of koran that calls for the killing of christians and other infidels?. . . . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Arming The Faithful Against Logic by mazaje(m): 2:30pm On Jun 18, 2012 |
harakiri: Dude,I was stunned, I was busy cursing and swearing at them under my breath. . . MyJoe: The difficult part is accepting any belief system. Once you do, you swallow anything it spews out to you because you believe there is some spiritual authority behind it. Since spiritual authorities are higher than you, it matters not that anything does not make sense. In fact, the question of making sense does not arise anymore because you aren't looking for sense here.Nice write up. . .How are you doing?. . .Its been a while. . .  |
| Islam › Re: Why Do Nigerian Christians Hate Islam??? by mazaje(m): 12:24pm On Jun 17, 2012 |
[quote author=al-ahamad]Emofine2..... Nice arguement I must say....but the question now is....would you attribute any misdeed of a selected few to the whole of Islam? I presently live in a white neighborhood where finding a muslim is something you go a long way for but they do not allow any sentiment come into their judgemnt or way nd method of conversing or doing things with me.... I once went on a vacation to the UAE with my christian friends nd the reception given to us wherever we went was same and equal but for the case of Nigeria, it totally different...cos I did my NYSC in Enugu nd it was frustrating nd tense for me all thru....sure u knw what I mean.... For sure there are muslim extremists but should dat be the fault of Islam as a whole? Bisalame[/quote]The reason why people dislike islam is because muslims are presently the only group of people that believe in killing infidels as a religious duty. Have a look at the video of BH and other islamic terrorist groups, they start by reading from the koran and they let evey body know that they are killing and destroying the believers as a religious duty. . .They will read passages from the koran to back up their actions. . .Don't even talk abut christains hating on muslms because muslims hate on christians more than christians hate on muslims. . . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Arming The Faithful Against Logic by mazaje(m): 11:59am On Jun 17, 2012 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Arming The Faithful Against Logic by mazaje(m): 11:56am On Jun 17, 2012 |
Martian: You are a strong man!!! The last time I stepped foot inside a church was 2 years ago to pacify my mom, I was filled with disgust within 5 minutes and I walked out. I think she knows not to ask me again.I just came back from Nigeria yesterday,was there for 2 weeks. . .I attended 2 churches, one to show my business partner that I was a devoted Christian and the other one to meet up with a guy that will help me get something done. The first church was just a normal church service, nothing spectacular apart from the fact that they had four different offerings. . . .Message was about marriage. My business partner, a very rich man and church elder was celebrating his wedding anniversary so the message was about marriage. . .It was good actually cos the guest speaker was blunt and on point. His advice were sound. His basic message for a lasting marriage was for men was to love their wives as christ loved the church and died for it(Men are to love their wives as they love themselves) and for women to always submit to their husbands with love and tolerance since the man is the head of the family, women are not to drag over the headship of the home with their husbands. Some crazy jargoons here and there but overall it was good. The second service was at Christ embassy in one of the southern states. . .I am very serious, these people are thieves. WTF!!!. . .The pastor and the members of the church are all theives, how can people really listen to that foolish pastor and still come back the next sunday  . . . .The guy was just lying, confusing, deluding and making a fool of himself and the people listening to him. . . .He actually said that he doesn't care if some of the people there were gainfully employed or not, all he knows is that once they sow the seed, god will speak to their accounts. Pounds, euros, dollars, naira anything, if they operate international bank accounts god will touch it and fill it up, if it is local god will also touch and fill it up, weather they are employed or not god will bless their bank accounts so they should speak prosperity to their accounts bla bla bla. . .There will be endless testimonies very soon he said. . .Come and see how people were sweating and praying. . .WTF!!!!. . . .Pastor Chris said this pastor Chris said that, the bible says this, the bible says that bla bla bla.....Speak to your bank accounts bla bla bla. . .Deluded goons. . .Why the F*CK do people actually believe these crazy pastors?. . .When you tell people such lies outside the church they will not pay attention to you, but inside the church everything goes due to fear. . .Its very pathetic. . . 2 Likes |
| Family › Re: My Husband Will Not Allow Me To Touch His Car by mazaje(m): 4:28pm On Jun 11, 2012 |
Are you sure your Husband did not marry you only because you got pregnant for him?. . .Only a man forced into a marriage will act that way. . . |
| Christianity Etc › Where Is Tudor? by mazaje(op): 10:56am On Jun 09, 2012 |
Tudor where are you?. .I miss you man. . . . |
| Travel › Re: Pictures Of Dana Air Crash Victims by mazaje(m): 3:38pm On Jun 04, 2012 |
https://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/303667_373493059374780_1799409929_n.jpg Mutihir Isttifaanus. . .A friend of mine. . . |
| Business › Re: What Percentage Of Your Monthly Income Do You Save? by mazaje(m): 2:51pm On Jun 04, 2012 |
[quote author=life_style]Are you a family man ?[/quote]No am not. . . Am single. . . |
| Business › Re: What Percentage Of Your Monthly Income Do You Save? by mazaje(m): 2:05pm On Jun 04, 2012 |
Luckily I earn a very high income, so I save about 50% to 60% of my income monthly. . . 1 Like |
| Travel › Re: Dana Airplane Crashed At Iju-Agbado, Ayinla Bus-Stop by mazaje(m): 8:26pm On Jun 03, 2012 |
Lilboots: Amina Idris Bugaje...rest in peace!1 of the victims...her last status update!Stop spreading rumors pls. . .The plane left from lagos to abuja. . .her status says she was travelling from abuja to lagos. . plssssss |
| Family › Re: It Is Only A Foolish Woman That Remain In An Abusive Relationship by mazaje(m): 11:50am On Jun 03, 2012*. Modified: 2:16pm On Jun 04, 2012 |
Its complicated. . .I have a friend who has been married for over 8 years to a medical doctor,he told me that she vowed that the day he lays his hands on her will be the day their marriage will end, she stated it before they married and during their marriage. . .Now the guy is tired of the marriage and wants out for various reasons. . .He has resulted to beating her just because he believes she will stick to her vows and leave, but she is still hanging in there and doesn't want to leave after all what she had said. . .She still wants the marriage to work. . . he has beaten her 3 times already but she is still there begging and trying to make things work. . .This is a medical doctor not some ordinary woman on the street ohh. . .Despite all what she had said she is still there crying and begging him to work on things together with her. . .There is more to it than meets the eyes. . .Very sensible and strong women tolerate beatings and battery for various reasons. . . |
| Islam › Re: Is Mohammed Really A Descendant Of Ishmael? Read This: by mazaje(m): 3:47pm On Jun 02, 2012 |
@tiarabubu The Koran did not mention any Ramesses. . .It only mention the king as pharoah, the king remains nameless in the koran, something very typical of hear say stories. . The people that wrote the story in the koran were just retelling ancient stories. . .All the details were missing. . .No name of the king, no name of the city which the people built nothing just conjectures and nothing more, remember they were retelling stories that happened thosands of years earlier. . . tbaba1234: This means nothing, what does it prove? What tales were they talking of, exactly? We have tales like the companions of the elephants and Ad & thamud which the Arabs knew something about... And we also have tales which the Quran testifies that the prophet himself did not know.... Example: The story of moses & pharaoh;;; The story of mary, His detractors could easily have claimed that the Quran was lying and discredited him with that information... The same Quran refutes your claims:And you, [O Muhammad], were not on the western side [of the mount] when We revealed to Moses the command, and you were not among the witnesses [to that]. (Surah 28:44)Pls don't be dishonest. . .The passage only says the prophet was not a witness to the events, it never said he did not know about the events. . .The only problem with the muslims was that we have nothing from the the pre-islamic arabs about themselves except the very one sided stories of them from the mouth of the muslims. . .Very little is known about them from their own sources, everything we know about their religion and their interactions with the Muslims we know from the mouths of the muslims with their bias and agenda. . .No body is to take the stories of the muslims written about the pre islamic pagans seriously. . .Even schorlas disagree with the muslims stories about the pagans. . .From wikipedia it says There is very little material on which to base a description of pre-Islamic religion, particularly in Mecca and the Hejaz. The Qur'an and the hadith, or recorded oral traditions, give some hints as to this religion. Islamic commentators have elaborated these hints into an account that, while coherent, is doubted by academics in part or in whole. The bottom is is very clear. . .The people knew about the stories Mohammed was retelling, and stated that he was only retelling stories of the ancients stories which they themselves were already familair with. . . Time and time again the Quran tells the prophet he is unaware of these stories, If these were common stories; these would have been easy ammunition for his distractors.False, it says he was not a WITNESS(you were not with them). . . It doesn't say you never knew about the stories so try another one. . . Show me the historical evidence of where this information came from:: You keep living in your delusion....Those that put the Koran together were familair with the stories. . .The story as narrated in the Koran is completely deviod of any details and typical of stories you hear from not so clear sources. No name of the king, no name of his adies or any member of his house hold, no name of city even though the cities had names you are only left with ridiculous conjectures like "he could have been part of the case" . . .Josephus and Pliny for example wrote about the way the ancient egyptians preserved the bodies of their kings some 700 years before Mohammed was born, so how is that new knowledge from the unseen? |
| Islam › Re: Is Mohammed Really A Descendant Of Ishmael? Read This: by mazaje(m): 6:56am On Jun 02, 2012*. Modified: 3:58pm On Jun 02, 2012 |
tiarabubu, you have done a very good job of destroying tbaba123's argument. . .He keeps repeating the myth that the ancient arabs living during the time of Mohammed knew nothing about the ancient Jews, Christians or Egyptians even when all evidence points other wise. . .Even the koran acknowledges that fact. . .The people at that time even by the koran's admission states that the people accused Mohammed of retelling old tales they were already familiar with. . .Yet tbaba123 for reasons best known to him keeps denying that fact. . .He keep saying things like there were NO christians or Jews in Mecca. . . . . .Its very easy to take stories you already know about and later claim divine revelations in Mecca, no?. . We have heard this (before): if we wished, we could say (words) like these: t[b]hese are nothing but tales of the ancients[/b]" (8:31). They have heard the stories before and accused Mohammed of repeating old tales of the ancients they were already familiar with . . .Since the Koran as we know it today is not the work of one person then there is nothing special when old tales appear in it. . . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: 'serpent-handling' West Virginia Pastor Dies From Snake Bite by mazaje(m): 6:34pm On May 31, 2012 |
Religion always wins. . . .Christians are now throwing the bible under the bus. . . Mark 16: 17-18 reads, "And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues. They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." The guy out of his faith followed what the bible said and it failed him as always. . .Now the people here are just blabbing any how. . .The same people will talk about extra ordinary healing like their god rising people from the dead etc but when you tell ask them about clear cut healing, like healing of amputees and restoring their amputated limbs back the same goons will begin to blab. . .religion always wins. . .People will always provide excuses for their god even when his alleged word fails. . . .Religion is pure delusion. . 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: So Which Jesus Was Crucified? by mazaje(m): 3:08pm On May 29, 2012 |
tbaba1234: Prove to me that the term anointed (messiah) is an exclusive title for Jesus...The Jesus talked about in the bible is the only Jesus that has the title messiah attached to his name. . . Show me anyone regarded as son of the father (Bar-abbas) other than Jesus....Jesus Barabas , the one that was set free according to the story. . . Jesus is not the son of Joseph or David no matter how many times the bible or any book says it... If it was a virgin birth it means there was no father.... I used the term Jesus, son of mary to differentiate because both men were called Jesus. There was no other way. Even if i used Jesus, son of Joseph... It is irrelevant to the discussion.Another lie, Jesus was called the messiah all through the bible and the bible very clearly stated that he was the one that was crucified, I really do NOT know what you are on about. . Where in the bible did it say or imply that Jesus Barabas was crucified or that Jesus the messiah was not crucified?. . .You started with the Jesus son of Mary broahaha until I called you out on it, Jesus was NEVER addressed as the son of Mary any where in the bible. . He was mostly addressed as Jesus the messiah and according to the story he was crucified, how you are now trying to interject your islamic fantasies into the story is what I find mind boggling. . . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: So Which Jesus Was Crucified? by mazaje(m): 8:59pm On May 28, 2012 |
tbaba1234: What is your fixation with the term Jesus, the son of Mary? That is not the point of the whole discussion. If we believe the biblical narration of a virgin birth, Jesus was never the son of Joseph or the son of david through Joseph because Joseph did not father him so both descriptions are wrong.You brought the Jesus son of Mary shenanigan until i called you out on it. . .Jesus was NEVER addressed as son of Mary any where ın the bıbleç he was addressed as son of David and son of Joseph so how am i wrong?. . .Jesus son of Mary as you said is your own making. . .İt does not appear any where in the bible. . .You can NOT give me example of any Jesus called the messiah in the blble apart from the Jesus the bible said was crucified so enogh of your spins. . .The bible very CLEARLY states that Jesus the messiah was crucified and that ends it. . .Unless ıf you want to bring the fantasy of the koran into play here. . . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religion And Doubts- We Are All Athiests by mazaje(m): 5:30pm On May 28, 2012 |
What is deepsight on about?. . . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: So Which Jesus Was Crucified? by mazaje(m): 5:29pm On May 28, 2012 |
tbaba1234: This is silly,Will you stop your lies?. . .According to the text Jesus Barabas and Jesus the Christ were brought together and Jesus Barabas was set free while Jesus the christ was crucified. . .The problem here is that Jesus was NEVER addressed as Jesus son of Mary any where in the whole of the bible, he was addressed as son of David and son of Joseph, he was NEVER addressed as Jesus son of Mary any where so take your islamic delusions some where else. . .You claimed that Jesus the christ could be another Jesus because the tittle could apply to any body but you are yet to point to any other person that uses the name Jesus the chirst any where in the bible apart from the Jesus the bible talked about. . .You can not even provide any body that lived in the 1st century AD that uses the name Jesus the messiah apart from the Jesus of the bible. . .Jesus son of Mary remains your own making and lies. . .The Jesus of the bible was NEVER addressed as Jesus son of Mary any where in the bible ONLY in the Kora. . .Take your islamic fantasies somewhere else and stop using the bible to justify your islamic fantasies. . . I don't get this tirade... The point is clear for anyone who can reason.... Who are the people that saw the crucifixion? We know the disciples were not there..... they were not witnesses...Apart from what we have in the new testament. There are no 'eye-witness' accounts....The issue is not about who saw or witnessed the crucifixion, but about you trying to say what the biblical text never said. . .The biblical text is very clear Jesus the messiah was crucified and Jesus Barabas was setr free, Jesus the christ was NEVER addressed as Jesus son of Mary as you are fraudulently trying to imply. . .He was addressed as son of Joseph and son of David, never was he addressed as son of Mary throughout the bible, he was addressed as Jesus the Christ most of the time in the bible, so I don't really know what you are on about. . . The point is pretty straightforward;ONLY that according to the text Jesus the messiah was crucified while Jesus Barabas was set free. . .Jesus was NEVER addressed as son of Mary in the whole bible, he was addressed as the messiah all through so a very big fail. . . .Try some other islamic fantasies . . . . |
| Islam › Re: Is Mohammed Really A Descendant Of Ishmael? Read This: by mazaje(m): 5:41pm On May 27, 2012 |
[quote author=Mai-suya]You made a claim, and I asked u for evidence, you can't now turn the table around and ask me to provide evidence? For what? I made no claim. I am just a silent observer, and even as a Muslim tbaba' evidence fortified argument and your wild guess assertion only tells me you are not a serious debater. By the way if you provide evidence and it is not bias it will be glaring and Muslims will have to prove otherwise, but if indeed it is from the bible thumpers, then we will have no option than reject it. It's simply logic.[/quote]Read about the deity called Hubal. . .From wikipedia. . . Hubal (Arabic: هبل) was a god worshipped in pre-Islamic Arabia, notably at the Kaaba in Mecca. His idol was a human figure, believed to control acts of divination, which were made by tossing arrows in front of the statue. The direction in which the arrows pointed answered questions asked of the idol. Access to the idol was controlled by the Quraysh. Devotees of Hubal fought against Muhammad's followers at the Battle of Badr. After Muhammad entered Mecca in 630, the image of Hubal was removed from the Kaaba. Even the hadith records that pagans controlled the Kaaba before Mohammed started his religion, and that the Kaaba contained 360 idols. After Mohammed returned to Mecca from Medina and broke the "Truce of Hudaybiyyah" he had made with his own tribe the quraish, he then removed all the idols ..... except one. The black stone that remains to this day is the same that pre-Islamic pagans went on pilgrimage to and circumambulated, in arabian moon god and Star Family worship. . . . Bukhari V2, B26, #689 (V1, B8, No 365): Narrated Abu Huraira: “In the year prior to the last Hajj of the Prophet when Allahs Apostle made Abu Bakr the leader of the pilgrims, the latter (Abu Bakr) sent me in the company of a group of people to make a public announcement: 'No pagan is allowed to perform Hajj after this year, and no naked person is allowed to perform Tawaf of the Kaba.'” “Asem told us that he said to Uns bin Malek, a companion of Mohammed, “You were hating to encompass around the Safa and Marwa.” He answered, “Yes, because it was one of the pagan rites of Jahiliyah until Allah gave a verse that the Safa and Marwa are the rites of Allah. If one makes the Hajj to the Kaabah, he must encompass them. The person has no sin when he encompass them.” |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Religion And Doubts- We Are All Athiests by mazaje(m): 5:20pm On May 27, 2012 |
Very true and well thought out summations. . . .Nice one |
| Islam › Re: Is Mohammed Really A Descendant Of Ishmael? Read This: by mazaje(m): 11:59am On May 27, 2012 |
[quote author=Mai-suya]^^ and do u have evidence(not missionary sources) to back up ur incredulous wild guess?[/quote]The claim that the Kaa'ba came ONLY from the muslims. . .I don't want to provide any source because you will claim that it is from the missionaries. . .You claimed it was built by Abraham, pls can you provide any source outside the islamic stories that state that the Kaaba was built by Abraham?. . .The history of the Kaaba before is islam came around is known a little, they people used to house their gods inside it. . .But lets drop that, provide any source outside the muslim propaganda that states that kaaba was built by Abraham or Ishameal. . . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: So Which Jesus Was Crucified? by mazaje(m): 11:44am On May 27, 2012 |
tbaba1234: I think you are being a tad bit dishonest.... i am beginning to suspect you r an undercover christian. Bible translators did not translate barabbas.. It does not mean that it is not there. This is from wikipediaYou are just being a dishonest liar. . .Where in the bible was Jesus ever addressed as Jesus son of Mary you liar?. . .I am not a christian but I can not stand you silly dishonesty and very cheap lies. . .Who do you think you are deluding with your very cheap tricks?. . Where was Jesus ever addressed as Jesus son of Mary in the bible?. . .Even if we go with Jesus Barabas, the Jesus of the bible was known as Jesus the christ and not son of Mary and according to the story Jesus the christ was the one that was crucified, No body ever addressed him as Jesus son of Mary according to the biblical story. . Jesus Barabas was set free according to the story and Jesus the christ was crucified. . .Jesus the son of Mary is your own making, People do not answer their mothers name but their fathers name, you can never hear people being addressed as Jesus son of Mary, people are addressed by their father's name, like Jesus son of Joseph not jesus son of mary so stop lying.. .. . .The text very clearly say that Jesus the christ was the one that was crucified, it also goes on to say that he was the one that was raised from the dead. . .Even the people saw that he was the one that was crucified according to the story, how you keep dwelling on your own personal/ islamic fantasies is what is really mind boggling. . . |
| Islam › Re: Is Mohammed Really A Descendant Of Ishmael? Read This: by mazaje(m): 11:06am On May 27, 2012 |
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