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Nigerians and their endless stories. . .

tbaba1234: First of all, it is called Quran...

You should know that Islam is made up the Quran, the Sunnah (way of the prophet) ... The sunnah shows how marriages should take place Islamically.

Before a marriage takes place, the wife outlines her conditions for marriage: If the man accepts the conditions, he is bounded by it ... this makes up the marriage contract... Failure for the man to meet any condition could be grounds for divorce..

She can put anything in her contract as long as it doesn't go against a compulsory Islamic principle. restricting Polygamy is just one of the clauses she could include in her contract.

OK. . .

So it is not written in the Quran, where in the hadiths is it written?. . .

Pls where in the Koran is the marriage clause or contract written for polygamy?

LagosShia: it would do you good if you can show us where i said "coffee" is a scientific invention of Islam.

i can recall a CNN article i posted that lists coffee as a contribution made by Muslims.but i do not recall myself saying it is a scientific invention.as for you,i can remember you telling us electricity is an invention.and besides,as an atheist,you think of yourself in superior terms.why do you have to make similar "silly" mistake that a "foolish" Muslim like myself does?

Go and read up the thread and see the blunder you made, you listed coffee specifically as a scientific invention of islam, remember we were talking about the contributions of islam not muslims and i stated that if coffee is the scientific contribution of islam or muslims then we can conclude that television and electricity are christian scientific inventions. . .

Yes, electricity is was invented because one of the meanings of invent means to come up with or to find, which is also one of the meanings of discover. . .Check it up on

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/invent?s=t

The dictionary also list invent as a synonym for discover. . . .I was just playing all along with vexdacool the imbeci[i]l[/i]e. . .He doesn't even know that invent has the same meaning as discover. . .I just love replying people with their folly hence our constant back and forth. . .

vedaxcool: ^
Can we likewise say you claiming that electricity was invented is a atheism speaking? And atheism spreads ignorance?

Just as we can claim that coffee is a scientific invention of islam as claimed by your buddy with your support is islam speaking no?. . .Your religion is the one with the problem, muslims all over the world are always killing and threatening to kill any body that speaks against their religion. . .The problem is with your religion. . .

https://bibleprobe.com/those-who-insult-islam-tn.jpg

https://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/behead-those-who-insult-islam.jpg

Sadly very true

tbaba1234: David, a side note... And this is something that christians need to examine themselves..

Why do you think christians of today are so inured to insults to revered prophets of the bible? Comedians today make fun of Moses and Jesus in the most ridiculous ways...

I as a muslim can't stand it, but you see christians (at least they identify as christians) in the crowd laughing so hard.... I suspect these things could not even happen a hundred years ago when societies were more religious conscious.

My personal Opinion: Secularity is killing christianity in the west, christians don't take their faith seriously anymore... In school, i had white christian flatmates but it seemed, christianity was just something they identified with. It did not necessarily affect their lives except during christmas or easter....

What do you suggest they do? . . .Why should a christian go up in arm when a prophet or Jesus is insulted?. . .Secularism is reason why you and other muslims like you are always running to europe and the west to stay instead of running to places like pakistan, iran, yemen, sudan, egypt, etc. . .

vedaxcool: ^^

no offense dav the truth always comes out bitter

Which "truth"? The fact and truth that some muslism here on nairaland have threatened to harm Seun before, so much so that he had to create a separate section for muslims?. . .Islam is peace only that people are always threatened with violence in one way or the other when they dare go against it. . .

vedaxcool: Welll, you might want to remind him of his electricity was invented statement, it works wonders for me, it acts like an antiseptic soap that wash away all germs leaving the thread squeaky halal, as his methodology for arguing always defies all known laws of common sense and reason.

Sure, like the coffee is one of the scientific inventions of islam right? as stated by lagoshia while you were busy cheering him on as him stating the scientific inventions of islam, no?. . . . .Talk about methodology of arguments always defying common sense. . .Coffee is indeed a scientific invention of islam. .Next!.. .

LagosShia: you are an idi.ot.and ofcourse one of the ways Islam would improve his life is to prevent him from being like you.here is the OP and what he said about halal food;why has discussing it become my diversion?:

. . .You are clearly out of gas. . .Keep on keeping on. . .

What is this halal no halal brouhaha. . .He asked a simple question, how will Islam make his life better and lagoshia is busy dwelling on halal food. . .Japan, Norway, Denmark, Switzerland and Finland have some of the highest life expectancies in the world higher than most muslim countries yet they do not eat halal. . .So what is this broauhaha about halal. . .

How will islam make his life better as an atheist?. . .

cyrexx: @ vedaxcool,
keep editing, good job
dont forget to remove from your quran the specific verses that calls for murdering of infidels
you are indeed a faithful muslim, just like your fellow brethren, the boko haram.
keep editing..

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.". . . .

The koran is saying that fighting has been prescribed for muslims. . .If fighting and killing people is not prescribe in the koran then why are muslims killing infidels the world over as a religious duty, why are muslims terrorist group the only ones using the koran as a basis of their terrorism?. . .Listen to all alqeda and boko haram videos the start by reciting passages in the koran that calls on muslims to kill the infidels. . .They also always show them with their korans. .Yet this deluded slave of the imaginary being called allah wants to tell us other wise other wise. . .If he likes he can go and edit the entire koran and remove all the verses that call for the killing of infidels na him sabi. . .

tbaba1234: If you come with genuine questions or even respectful dishonest question you will get answers.... but most christians and atheists are just there to disrespect Allah and his Prophets. Muslims do not tolerate that.

You can be respectful about what people revere even if you do not believe it.

We have the answers to any question worth asking...

Then why not allow allah and mohammed to deal with them?. . .Why kill them for insluting allah or mohammed when we are told that allah is all powerful?. .I thought allah is alive and all powerful according to the muslim claim, why not allow him to destroy those that mock and insult him?. . .Even Seun was threaten with death for allowing christians and antheist mock allah on nairaland. . .Why is islam the only religion whose adherents believe in killing others as a religious duty?. . .If people insult allah then let allah deal with them if he is not an imaginary entity. . .Why fight and kill on behalf on an all powerful being?. . .By the way how many battles have muslims fought and won in the name of allah?. . .

logicboy: What food for thought would that be?

That they are going to rot in hell for their unbelief. . .

Youngsage: Exodus 17:14 - "Then the Lord instructed Moses, write down this as a permanent record"...
Exodus 24:4-"Then Moses carefully wrote down all the Lord's instructions"... See also Exodus 34:27, Leviticus 1:1; 6:8. Deuteronomy 31:9, vs 24-26, Joshua1:7-8, chapter 8:31-34, and chapt. 22:5. See also 2Chronicles 34:14, Mark7:10, and Mark12:24.
The above passages are some of the passages which show Moses as the author of the book of the law.

I said where did Moses claim author ship of the books of Exodus, Leviticus and Numbers and your are coming up with this drivel?. . .The Lord instructed Moses to write instructions is a narrative about Moses, it is somebody relating what Moses did, it is written in the third person narrative indicating that it wasn't Moses writing it. . .If it were Moses it will be written as the Lord instructed me to write down his instructions. . .Writing down the lord's instruction does NOT equate to writing down the book of Numbers, Leviticus or exodus, writing down some particular laws does not equate to writing down a whole book assuming Moses actually wrote down the laws. . .I asked you to tell where Moses claimed author ship of any of the books. . .If you read the books of Paul you will see where he claimed authorship, where did Moses claim authorship in any of the books?. . .If you read the book of Exodus or Genesis without being told who the author was, how will you know it was written by Moses?. . .The scholarly consensus is that Moses did not write down any of the books. . .Many different authors wrote down the books. . .Even the Genesis creation stories in verse 1 and 2 were written by different people are different periods. . .

OLAADEGBU: Supposing your deputy adds a brief description of how you died to your uncompleted personal memoirs, would that disqualify you from being the author of that biography?

Where did Moses claim authorship in any of the books?. . .Where did Moses indicate that he wrote the book of Leviticus, numbers or exodus?. . .

^^
. . . The bible was written long before the templars and Illuminati came into existence. . .

Moses did not write any of the 5 books in the bible. Tradition is what ascribes the authorship to him. . .The first 5 books of the bible were written by some many different authors, the book of genesis alone has more than one author. . .No where in any of the books did moses claim authorship, even moses was addressed in third person narrative. . . the different writing styles and wordings show that the books were written by so many different authors. . . .

davidylan: Daft... seriously daft, sometimes i wonder if you are older than a 4yr old.
America, England, France and Israel (highly religious countries) have contributed FAR MORE nobel laureates than Estonia, New Zealand, Denmark and Sweden put together... so why are those countries not bastions of atheism today? Are they less intelligent too?

Literacy rates are equally as high in Israel and Lebanon so what?

Israel is not a religious country about 40 percent of its population are atheist or agnostics. . .

What exactly is davidylan yapping about?. . .He acknowledges that is mythical beliefs are based on faith (believing in something not because it is true but because you want it to be true) and not reason or logic, yet he goes around haranguing others that do not accept his mythical beliefs and superstitions?. . .

How does lack of belief in mythology makes some one a coward?. . .This guy has truly lost it. . .

Image123: What is religion?
A world without religion(whatever it means) would not be better than it is. Maybe different ofcourse but not much better. A world without sin would be much more better. Man's main problem is sin, other problems are a result of sin. That's what Jesus came to take care of. He wants a people whose sins have been taken care of, so that they can live with Him in the coming new earth, after this earth has been destroyed.

Sin is subjective, no?. . .Eating of pork is a sin to some while it isn't to others. . .A new earth remains a myth ,a ridiculous fantasy and superstition. . .It has nothing to do with reality. . .Why believe Jesus when he talks about the new earth when he told his deciples that he will return before they finish running round israel for persecution?. . .

logicboy: https://www.nairaland.com/922920/destruction-creationists-olaadegbu-brainpulse-bigd4050#10679439

The above is the linbk to the thread. He plays the strawman of fish fossils, then goes on to talk about the creationist lie about lucy fossil being a hoax which is another creationist lie.

My destruction of Davidylan was epic

you did very well, he eventually ran away after you exposed his tactics. . . .

dekung: 99 Ways to Annoy an Atheist


7. Explain that any biblical passages you agree with are "the word of god" while at the same time dismissing any you disagree with as being "metaphorical" or "out-of-context".

Classic!. . .

logicboy: Davidylan is much more deceitful. He looks for threads in which evolution is discussed. He then looks for atheists that may not have a scientific background then asks difficult questiona about evolution so that it would seem that the atheist and evolution are wrong.

Davidylan tried the tactic with me but I ended up destroying his argument and then he retreated to his abusive behaviour. Davidylan is the best troll have encountered so far!

can you post a link to where u guys had the exchanges with davidylan on evolution?. . . .perfect description of davidylan any way. . . he thinks evolution equates to atheism, when the fact is there are more theist that believe in evolution than atheist. . .many atheist do not believe in evolution but the fooool keeps yapping about evolution as if it has anything to do with atheism. . .evolution is the scientific position and is accepted by theist and atheist,one of the greatest advocates of evolution is a christian. . .but trust the blowhard imb[i]e[/i]cile to come around trying to make evolution the center of atheism. . .

tbaba1234: ^It was a bit of an entrapment by the guy asking about the apostacy law in the video. It gives him limited time to go t

First of all, it must be an Islamic state, most of the Muslim world are secular states. There is no true Islamic state in existence at the moment and the majority of muslims maintain their faith.

So Saudi Arabia is not practicing the true sharia, right?. . .Can you give an example of a state that practiced the true sharia and how it differs from Saudi arabia?. . .

davidylan: i notice none of you is smart enough to answer a single question posed to you. Fantastic stuff from the kings of noise making.

What are the "questions"?. . . .When have you ever made a coherent statement on your own without referring to the mythical and superstitious writing of others that you were indoctrinated with?. . .I saw you wasting time pointing to the mythical writings of some unknown men who stated that a man claimed every body should worship him, no?. . .Imagine this deluded idi[i]o[/i]t that spends his entire live revering the myths of ancient men of old calling others fo[i]o[/i]ls. . . .

davidylan: Spot the lie there dude

What lie?. . .here is what you wrote. .

davidylan: The problem isnt the "lack of education" but complete cowardice from those who are staunch, [b]violent atheists on anonymous web forums [/b]but exhibit the bravery of trapped mice in real life.

You ridiculously implied atheist here are violent. . .I have seen you many times insult allah and mohammed here on NL. . .I bet if you can stand in front of a muslims like lagosshia or vexdacool and repeat any of the things you have stated here on nairaland to their faces in real life about allah and mohammed. .what does that say about you?. . idi[i]o[/i]t. . ..

davidylan: apples to oranges. I didnt ask you to fly to Bahrain to declare your religion. Why cant you declare your religion to your immediate family? Why shld i declare my religion in NK? Do i look asian to you?

Because my family is deluded when it comes to religion, they will feel i am going against their mythical and imaginary sky daddy that hold a very central position in their lives. . .The hold the god mythology very close and highly in their lives. . .No need talking to them since they are blinded by religious delusions. . .Will you accept your child if he becomes and atheist? what about your wife?. . .

diluminati: @mazaje
davidylan is a frustrated christian, he is the violent chap here insulting everyone with contrary views.

He is just deluded. .He just said atheist here are violent. . . . . .I tire for this kind delusion. . . .

davidylan: actually it tells me a lot more about the atheist than the society. 99% of you here are shameless cowards... blathering on senselessly about atheist idiocy you barely understand from the relative safety of your PC screens. You can only speak in societies where you have a large number of fellow atheists whose opinions you can co-opt. I have never hidden the fact that i am a christian anywhere... even right down to the muslim heartland in northern nigeria. If i am killed for it so be it.

We are not shameless cowards. . .I doubt if you will be able to declare your religion in a society like north korea. . .I have professed my atheism in the united states in Ohio to be precise amongst many christians, they didn't embrace me but they didn't look at me as a diseased human being either, they appreciated the fact that I have the right to be an atheist. .Just had a simple conversation with two guys about atheism and why I was an atheist .The people in Nigeria are so backward and close minded that coming out as an atheist can get you killed in some places. . .A society where people are busy discriminating and killing each other because they hold different religious beliefs is not one that will give atheist a chance. . .Even the Nigerians here are more tolerant of atheist than the ones in Nigeria because they have been exposed to atheism here in europe. . . .

davidylan: Trust me, christians are the least of your problems. You shld be more worried about the muslims. However it is funny that atheists rather spend their time hollering and foaming in the mouth at christians... easy, completely safe targets.

Christians are my problems cos they are the ones I deal with most here in Europe and in Nigeria. . .Most of the atheist here were raised and indoctrinated into the christian religion hence the attack on christians, majority of the atheist here do not even come in contacts with violent muslims in real life, most live in southern Nigeria where muslims are not a threat to their personal lives or outside Nigeria. . . .It is the christians around them that keep calling them names and ostracizing them because of their lack of belief in their mythical gods. . .