₦airaland Forum

When PMB said people stole money, wailers said name them, Dasuki did .

When PMB said some people are returning the loot, wailers wailed name them, the Sun newspaper did.

When Mama Peace said PMB would jail people, wailers no believe, ok na.

Una dey carry PMB dey joke, una neva chi chum ching.

In another news, it's been a while I read a thread rebutting anything by TonyeBarcanista, is he still on here? Hope he is ok.

ritababe:
he cannot be tried because he and buhari make a deal.

Are you privy to the content of the deal?

The deal was simple: PMB and GEJ would accept the outcome of the election without contesting in court, irrespective of the winner.

The deal they signed prior to election has nothing to do with what is on ground now.

So the foundations of heaven are made from materials found on earth?

Then such a heaven is just a glorified earth.

They just exposed someone's bank detail but want to remain anonymous and expect to be taken serious.

Friends in deed.

Neeson:
You should have kept your condemnation to yourself too, See?

He's been too rebellious for someone who's asking for advice, I saw that, which is why I didn't bother advising him, my guess is he wants to join but is digging for anything negative that might come out of it, and I agree with you on that one, there's rarely anything that would stop him.

But then, the so called Christians on here are just antagonistic and not objective, if Jesus christ used the method of evangelism the Christians of nowadays use do you think that anyone would be saved? Do you think there would be a religion called Christianity at all? Christ's aim of coming to earth would have been defeated.

That's true.

Some Christians these days by their actions, inactions and utterances almost make the purpose for which Christ came a nullity.

Jesus manifested Christ, that we also may know how to manifest Christ in us.

It's only by manifesting Christ that we can "overcome the world" of hate and bigotry, and all the vices therewith.

DBriteLitehouse:
I deduced that the OP is an AMORC member.He started this thread to propagate more about AMORC on NL.A media strategy I guess.

I am a Christian and believe that Jesus Christ is my SAVIOUR AND LORD,and ONLY through Him I will have an eternal life.His teachings ARE GIVEN ONLY in the Holy Bible,I don't need to study any other book to know more about Christ's teachings.

Though,I am not a perfect being,But my daily desire is to please my Saviour Jesus Christ by studying the HOLY BIBLE,because IT IS GOD'S GIVEN MANUAL FOR MY SUCCESSFUL LIVING HERE ON EARTH.

I don't know more about AMORC,but all I know is that THE HOLY BIBLE IS ALL I NEED.

If only it were that simple.

The Bible is just like a road map to a destination, though some lines in the map are missing.

That the bible is a reference guide, does not mean the traveler would not make use of other signposts on the road to his destination.

The Bible is not the destination, Christhood is.

omojeesu:
No! No! My evening is not disturbed at all!

The Bible has many parts: history, geography, prophesy, mystery and mystical, etc. Simplicity is mixed with complexity. You don't build a house from top down.

The Melchizedek - Jesus relationship is one of the mysteries of the Bible. The former is regarded by us as one of Christ's pre-incarnate existence.

The core message of the Bible is Man's salvation that even a child can understand. There's 'milk' and 'meat' and 'bones' in the Bible. A baby starts with milk. When God gives birth to you He gives you a measure of His Spirit and you begin to understand His words. Over time you grow and are able to understand better and more.

A believer may never understand the M-J mystery till he or she dies. Understanding it and similar complex subjects such as Trinity are not key to knowing and believing in Jesus and being eternally saved.

Unfortunately, groups as yours seek out 'inconsistencies', 'errors', esoteric matters, etc in the Bible and use them to prove how the Book is of little usefulness to spirituality and 'intellectualism' and how it's claims as God's only written word to Mankind and believe in Jesus as the only Way to God.

Remember the battle in Eden was between faith and trust in God and His Word and the deception of knowledge so called, spun by Man's Arch Enemy.

Objections by many have kept them from the Bible Christ.

So long!

Having read your comment several times, I don't seem to reconcile the bolded.

I know no good teacher/school would certify a student that doesn't have a good enough understanding of a course work to meet the minimum score required to pass in continuous assessment.

Since the M-J mystery is part of the course work, and there are "inconsistencies, errors", is it the fault of the student that seeks to have an understanding of the course?


What do you mean by pre-incarnate existence?

That is an "error" in this case, because Melchizedek was not a Spirit Being but a physical flesh and blood being, that wined, dined and interacted with men.

The prefix "pre" suggest before physical earth bodily existence.

Why do you categorize "me" as "groups"? My moniker is not even "Legion"

I am not questioning the spirituality or intellectualism of the bible, but to understand the course content enough to be certified "worthy in character and Learning" in the continuous assessment leading up to the attainment of Christhood.

As for the Eden story, lets leave it for now.

I don't think I raised any objections to the Bible Christ, my Lord.

ubcandid:
I guess you have a comprehension problem....
why confusing yourself when the poster typed umana's street. That simply means the street umana is living on.

Hahahahahaha
The Joke is on me

Thanks for the correction.
I never thought of it that way, my sense of geography had a better hold on me.

omojeesu:
Thank you for your candour.

But, oh! how i wish you are on Bible side. Please come to the One who declares Himself as The Way, The Truth, The Life. He loves you and we do!

Have a blessed weekend.

I surmised you are referring to Jesus.

Then You are only speaking from one side of reality.

From what i have come to know, Christianity (as we know it) can't be the only way to Christhood, for Melchizadek was a "type of" Christ
(Heb 7:1-..., Heb 6:20, Heb 5-10, PS 110:4)

If Melchizedek was a high Priest of God in the time of Abraham when Israel did not exist talk of Christianity who were his followers?

If Jesus was a high priest in the order of Melchizedek, who has higher authority/rank: Melchizedek or Jesus?

Sorry to disturb your evening.

@OP, I wish I had an uncle like yours.

...and that is just because horses aren't wishes...

rottennaija:
One thing I like about our state petroleum minister is that he is intelligent and smart. I am guess that's what I expected from a first class material like him

You didn't expect him to think in binary like GEJ/PDP Petroleum ministers, did you?

Hahahahahahahaha

Na only you serve God?

This is politics not religious study.

KelvinKelt:
Umana is just wasting his useless time. He can only become the governor of Akwa Ibom in his fake & unrealize dreams. For destabilizing the state & Udom from chieving his goals, I'll never forgive this greedy & self centred man. The God we serve will never let him disgrace Udom & our dear state.

IamK2I:
God bless you. Nothing happened in Uyo this evening, everywhere was as calm as ever. Those pics can't be the main Uyo I live in. Check the gutters, you can't fine those gutters in Uyo metropolis. The snapped those pics from Umana's street, the same street Godswill constructed

Point of correction, there is no such street as "Umana's street" in Uyo metropolis.

Besides, if you meant to say "udo umana street", it was never constructed by Godswill, maybe resurfacing, yes.

As for celebrating, there was especially around Ibom plaza, at least I witnessed that; was a spontaneous thing not rented crowd.

Actions, they say, speaks louder than words.

The most important "passive" action you can take in a political process is casting your vote not just talking about it or advising others on the best course of action.

Your action should be a step ahead of your words.

Lytech:
well,u sound well...
Bt mind you,everybody cant be up there ruling at a time, thats why we delegate some set of people who try convincing us they worth been there.... Coz i cant be actively involve in politics dont means i cant support with my words...

From your comment, you have no business on this thread.

Can you reconcile the bolded?

You can't be an armchair, Nairaland commentator and expect the future that is decided by politicians to be your dream come true.

If you don't take part in the political process, then let those that do, do the talking.

Lytech:
and same whole country dont witness the shame called election conducted in ogun state and osun state....
Dont be bias my brother,stop shying away from the truth...av never for once been into politics and will for no reason join them....bt am saying this coz i dont want the future of urs,mine and other reading this to be at stake..... We are in a democratic era not dictatorship era

Why are people so myopic and sentimental?

If PDP couldn't win Akwa Ibom fair and square when they (PDP) controlled government at the state and Federal level, is it now that FG is in the hands of APC?

If PDP wins Akwa Ibom it would be a miracle.

Sons and daughters of hate keep saying "APC wants Akwa Ibom for the oil" as if APC are aliens and not Akwa Ibomites with every right to fly any party flag of their choice.

EroticAngelina:
when u guys finally have sense and patience.

we are trying to look good for u!! can't y'all be fvcking patient!?! we ladies, its wat we're known for.

if we don't look good, you guys complain! if we look good, u guys still complain! abeg free us

Sure, we should be patient while you take forever to make up (your face or mind)

Beauty is beyond eye lashes and lipstick

There is never a scarcity of shocking events, revelations, encounters and experiences in the course of the interesting times we seem destined to live in. But nothing can perhaps be more shocking than a recent encounter I had with a young man. He had remarked quite innocently to my hearing that he wondered what all the noise was all about over the late Chief M.K.O. Abiola.

“Who is he?”, he asked. I almost passed out.

“Who is Chief M.K.O. Abiola? How old are you? When were you born?”, I retorted, trying to figure out whether it is indeed possible for anyone in this country not to know who MKO Abiola is. I followed up with another question.

“You mean you don’t know who MKO is?”

“Why should I know him? Does he know me?”

By now, I was sweating. It turned out that the young man was born in 1995, two years after the 1993 Presidential election, and he was still a toddler by the time of the return to civilian rule in 1999. Now 20 years old, and a university graduate, he has grown up inside Nigeria, never knowing the late MKO Abiola, the martyr of the struggle for democracy: the main man whose sacrifice and heroism resulted in a long, civil society protest against military rule. Abiola was, in addition, a major African philanthropist, a promoter of sports and one of the most remarkable figures in Nigerian history in the latter part of the 20th Century. I tried to explain Abiola’s significance to the young man.

“Good for him”, was his response. I could sense that he wasn’t excited.

I had to take on the additional task of further urging him to check out the name on Google: the knowledge made-easy platform on which the young ones rely for quick information. I dare not ask him to read some books about that period in Nigerian history, knowing what new technology has done to many of our youth, who find it difficult to read anything that is more than a few easy paragraphs. My encounter with this particular young Nigerian ended with the sad feeling that there are many like him out there, already out of university and busy thinking of next steps in their lives but who know next to nothing about the history of their country.

I have had similar encounters in more recent times: young Nigerians who do not know the author of Things Fall Apart, and who have never heard of Lord Lugard, Ahmadu Bello, Bola Ige or Kaduna Nzeogwu. The other day, I stumbled on an exercise on social media in which someone posted the picture of Samuel Ladoke Akintola, and asked that he should be identified. This generated some confusion as some referred to him as Adegoke Adelabu, and some of those who could identify him said Akintola was the one that uttered the famous phrase: “peculiar mess”, which got translated by his Yoruba listeners to “penkelemesi”. The only relief I took away was that nobody said the picture was that of Aminu Kano or Sa’ad Zungur. I imagine, at this rate, that a day may well come in the future when some young Nigerians may never have heard of Murtala Muhammed, or any of the present-day historical figures.

This is one of those self-inflicted omissions in our development process. Close to two decades ago, history was removed from the primary and secondary school curricula as a core subject. The teaching of history also became threatened at the tertiary level, as it got labeled as one of those disciplines that cannot get anyone a job in the oil and gas sector or the banks. In an attempt to remain relevant and avoid being shut down by the National Universities Commission, History Departments became creative by changing their content and nomenclature to History and Diplomatic Studies, or History and International Relations.

A succeeding generation of History graduates never failed to emphasise the suffixes. At the primary and secondary levels, history was replaced with social studies (which is at best a study of civics), or made optional, until it was even completely removed from the syllabus. Years of lamentation by history teachers has not made any difference, but the point needs to be made ad nauseam, that the school curriculum must be reviewed to place better emphasis on the learning and teaching of history. It is in fact quite ironic that Religious Studies occupies a more privileged place in the Nigerian school curriculum: we are busy teaching our students and the future generation, the two major religions, and many of them grow up force-fed with only that kind of history that the religious books teach, along with the dogma. Today, we are harvesting the dangers.

History is the connecting link between the past, the present and the future. Serious nations take time out to teach students and the general populace the history of the people and their country, for it is only when a people know where they have been, where they are, and where they are going that they can better prepare themselves for challenges. The history of mankind is repetitive, another way of saying there is nothing new under the sun, by learning from other ages, we build the confidence to forge ahead.

Every country that cherishes memory and the art and culture of remembrance of all things past and present strengthens nationalism, a sense of citizenship and the current of knowledge in the public space. History is a truckload of mistakes made, from which we can draw lessons and accomplishments from which we can draw inspiration. It is also an instrument of power: colonialists in Africa did not teach the history of the colonised, they taught their own history, and insisted that Africans had no history, and no culture. It took a whole generation of African historians to insist on the existence and the authenticity of African history, and to tell our story to the world as a means of affirming identity, cultural heritage and independence. And yet today, this aspect of the struggle against mental slavery and domination has been abandoned.

The teaching of history needs not be formal: indeed in developed countries, more history is taught informally, bits of history are inserted into the landscape of social being in various forms. These include different types of museums: natural history, art, aviation, technology, war. Monuments are erected at chosen locations to remind the people of the past. Homes and birthplaces of famous achievers, including writers, statesmen and war heroes are marked and described. Public buildings welcome visitors with history. Cultural products, including movies, are also used to promote national history and energise the populace. By the time a child grows up in the midst of all these, he develops a sense of awareness that guides his relationship with country. It is also for the same reason that professions, including the military, teach their own history, to project tradition and achievement.

The historical narrative, thus represented in many shapes, has defined many societies. We visit such societies, enjoy their spectacles, absorb their narratives, and even buy their mementoes, but here back home, we have no museums telling any significant story. We have no public places preserving the memories of our heroes past. Every child in Ghana knows who Kwame Nkrumah is, because his legacy is well-preserved in the public space. Where are the Nigerian equivalents: we don’t even keep official records anymore. Where is Nigeria’s National Presidential library? A nation without a conscious promotion of its history, culture, landmarks, icons, symbols, monuments, and heroes is a society deserving of extinction.

In the absence of a deliberate and structured effort to see history as a tool for national development, we have over the years left the telling of our story to revisionists playing games with national unity and promoting the enemies of amalgamation. Revisionists are propagandists, masters of dogma, and promoters of falsehood and lies. They deliver their narratives in convenient short-hand formats and through rumours. Many of the young men today who are clamouring for secession have never read the history of the civil war; they are victims of a false single story, which says other Nigerians do not like Igbos. The Yoruba landlord who does not want an Igbo tenant may not have heard that Igbos once represented Yorubas in parliament, or that Igbos have always been strong stakeholders in Lagos politics – all he knows is that silly story that Igbo tenants take their landlords to court, as if Yoruba tenants don’t do the same.

Those young men and women who allow themselves to be turned into foot-soldiers by Pastors and Imams, and who turn religion into a vehicle of violence have never been taught that those who did the same in the past in this same country got gunned down. Those religious groups who take over the highways and our streets, claiming they are holding a special revival or a procession, and who do not care about the rights of other road users and citizens have probably never read stories about the tension generated by such encounters between the state and religion. They all do not know that turning religion and ethnicity into enemies of the Nigerian state will ordinarily attract dire consequences because the state has a responsibility to allow freedom of expression but also an equal responsibility to prevent any form of abuse. By the same token, those trigger-happy security men who indulge in extra-judicial murder, have never read how such conduct indeed violates the dignity of the state, and sets a condition for the failure of government and state.

The historical sociology of the Nigerian condition points to much repetitiveness of social and political conduct with very little change in capacity to manage same, from the colonial period to the present. Those who ignore history and fail to learn from it are bound to repeat it. And so, we keep repeating the same errors because we forget too easily. The process of national re-orientation must include a promotion of our history for national development purposes. It is not enough to admit that some of the worst fanatics using religion and ethnicity to threaten national integration are university graduates: this indicates a great omission in the curriculum; in form of the failure to use the education system to produce Nigerians who are first and foremost citizens with loyalty to country.

Source:
http://blogs.premiumtimesng.com/?p=170016

Where is the range Rover?
I only see a guy taking selfie nude which is not out of place in today's world.

Very few ladies would understand what op is trying to say because to some ladies vision = material wealth/riches, just as sex = love.

Niyinficient:
Nigerians sha! Pls wat do u mean by living on GEJ's legacy? So make dem abandoned the project make e turn anoda 'abandoned project' abi?

make una just leave dis administration make dem do dia work (if any)
Enuf wailing!

My broda, since self pity is the perfect escape/coping mechanism, wailing is the only escape mechanism for those that can't get over the PMB defeat of GEJ.

I wonder how loud the wailing would be if/when APC retains the Presidency come 2019...

sergiozlatan:
Some people actually reason with their anus. No wonder they are called "WAILERS". Governance is all about continuity. If the current government abandons those trains, people will wail, now the Honourable Minister decided to continue with what the past administration left, yet people are still wailing.

What have you people achieved by wailing? If past administrations had continued from what they met on ground & reduced their rate of stealing, we wouldn't have been in this mess.

You dey mind wailers.?

As if GEJ didn't come to meet any "legacy" on ground.

So if 2 trains meant to ply PH-Aba route was paid for and GEJ team commissioned 1, the 2nd shouldn't be commissioned by this government since the first was commissioned by GEJ or the 2nd was paid for by GEJ?

Besides, any government project that is not commissioned, though put to use can always be commissioned anytime by the government.

SmartMugu:
Food for thoughts...Worth thinking about. But at least Christianity doesn't involve rituals and killing others for some sacrifice.

That's where Christianity loses its potency, nothing beats blood sacrifice.

why do you think it's said the death of Jesus was the "ultimate" sacrifice? If you understand the mystical side of things.

If you like fast and speak in tongues for a month and let your contender offer a blood sacrifice he will surely have an advantage over you.

Case in point, 2 kings 3:4-27.

Emphasis is on verse 18 and 27.

johnnycrew:
If truly he acknowledges God,I think he should have declined to be the ooni,not kneeling before God and then going back to do occultic things,u can't serve two masters same time...I think he is confused

oc·cult /əˈkəlt/
noun
supernatural, mystical, or magical beliefs, practices, or phenomena...

There's nothing more occultic than God. If only you know the occult side of the Jewish tradition that gave us Christianity.... as a side attraction.

Naija get issue.

We should thank God, Ooni no dance till his royal robe tore showcasing his royal nyash like king David.

Some people sef, how is the boy stewpid for saying the truth?

Since PMB finished campaign and won election, have you seen him in your town, no be we dey camp(aign) for Abuja to see him?

And why would the girl raise the issue so bluntly without any tact? It only makes her look needy.

The truth is always bitter.

On the flip side, The girl ought to know that konji, like a sine graph, has a perfect repetitive pattern...

OohLalah:
Good move Mr Putuma Nhleko, Sir! Now let the games begin.

NOW! MTN should make sure the court case attracts major publicity internationally, it will definitely have a huge negative impact on Nigeria. Investors will run.

I knew MTN would not take this lying down.

Why would investors run?

NCC is only implementing an agreement all telcos signed.

The negative impact is likely to be on mtn for failing to keep its part of the agreement.

Hahahahahaha

Mtn, how una expect to win a case against Federal government of Nigeria handled by the judicial arm of the Federal government of Nigeria?

E be like mtn don dey tire to do business for Nigeria, as it be say this case may not go in their favour.

Na so late President YarAdua own start.

she is a shadow of her former self.

if only she no follow "misled, cajoled, messed, blackmailed,..." Don Fortunato.

Burger01:
Ebanking makes life kind of convenient. I can't stand unnecessary queues in the banking halls. Major Glitch over ebanking is unavailability of interswitch network...aside that, it's a preferred choice. But, the day you mistakenly transfered money to the wrong account, you are on your own

the last part of your comment shows you don't do e-banking.

Gtbank, for instance, on its mobile banking portal ask you for the bank/nuban you want to transfer to, then display the account name, if it doesn't match the name of the person you want to transfer to, would you continue the transaction?

monex:
and mind you GEJ never said that (at least from my checks). it was part of APC propaganda and we just believed it cos we felt GEJ was capable of saying it.

it is similar to the "I will make one naira equal to one dollar" attributed to PMB. it was also false (at least from my checks too)

Hehehehe
You never understand Nairaland humor?

In......voice, is always meant as a joke, take it serious at your own health risk.

I don't get it, some APC employees had/have the duty to manage it's social media.

how does the running of a twitter account subtract from the running of government?

Was APC supposed to sack and shut down their social media unit, because they won the Presidency?