₦airaland Forum

There's no evidence of heaven.

We all become plant food when we die.

Tell the child the truth instead of furthering the lie.

hatchy:
Azikiwe,Awolowo and all those who agitated for Nigeria's early independent didn't do well. This country was not ripe for independent as at when we got it.The white man should have colonized this country at least till late 80's.There was fewer or no basic infrastructure on ground for the country to take off.
The colonialist also left in a hurry leaving a big vacuum that brought us to this disgraceful level. Countries like South Africa,Zimbabwe,Kenya, where the whites remained and fussed into and became citizens are far ahead of us in terms of development even though they have little resources compared to us.

We allowed corruption, nepotism and religious bigotry to eat deep.into our national life.
How can one explain that after over 50 years of independence we are still struggling to generate and distribute just a little above 2000 mW of electricity while other countries we gained independence before them are already harnessing other forms of energy including wind and nuclear.

Electricity is celebrated in Nigeria if you have it consistently for one week without blinking.

Its a shame.

You don't know South Africa if you think it has fewer resources.

And how does one claim that Zimbabwe is in better shape when they don't even have a currency?

The countries that you listed had infrastructure built for a small number of people - there's prosperity in South Africa but also grinding poverty for the black majority (and an increasing number of whites). Kenya is home to Africa's largest slum and regular election violence.

The other difference between those places and Nigeria is that of population, especially population growth.

Nigerians are in denial about the problem that the rapid population growth has caused - how does one expect progress when the number of Nigerians has doubled in 25 years? And why do so many people kick against the introduction of birth control and limits on the number of children? The politicians can keep playing Nigerians because of the desperation of so many that is fueled by the irresponsible breeding. Same goes for the useless religious and traditional leaders, none of whom do anything to justify the adulation that they receive.

As to your claim that Nigeria was given independence too soon - that is true for the north. The south was ready. The South West had made strides that other places had not in the 1950s - they had their own television station before most of the world, free universal education before most of the world and Lagos was a safe, bustling city. But because of the rapid population growth Lagos has been put under considerable strain and the other states, especially those int he middle belt and the north are not doing enough to improve economic indices.

Enyimbamercedes:
So therefore that's the justification for enforcing speed limiters. Let's take care of the 40% first which includes bad roads, unlicensed drivers, poorly maintained vehicles, dangote trucks, fuel tankers, insufficient road marshals on the highways, illegal roadblocks. Tackle these before you enforce speed limiting devices.

Unlicensed drivers alone is probably 40% the issue.

eezeribe:
If you have ever stolen even one naira in your life or taken what doesn't belong to you,or inflated price... You have no right to condemn looters.
We are all corrupt.this menace must be tackled from the root.

That's the most illogical statement that I've ever heard.

People should not steal but if you are caught then you should be held to account. This is especially true of people who take up positions within government, they should be held to an even higher standard.

Blue3k2:
Internet of Things with our terrible wifi. I understand this along with electrity being improved at sane time needed. How do these smart towera compare to fiber optic investment. Oh well I might watch out for it.

Wifi in Lagos isn't that bad. And many of the offices that I've frequented in Abuja have good wifi too.

Personally I want to know how they will power this when they keep insisting on national electricity grid system that leads to so much wastage.

TheFreeOne:
When are we gonna have men/women in their forties leading Nigeria?.

The old men running the country aground have refused to die and leave the stage.

When Nigerians say no to coup plotters.

When Nigerians say no to people who worked hand in hand with Abacha.

When Nigerians stop voting for old people and start demanding younger candidates.

Most of these 'men of god' are mentally deranged charlatans.

The rest are charlatans of sound mind.

Unfortunately it does. Human beings are very shallow (and often stupid) creatures who will make snap judgments based on appearance, gender and religion.

I know this because I've sat in on discussions where people have been discriminated against because of those three.

Babacele:
I don't ever want to hear that plague of a word- ever again!

Many of the people in APC were formerly in PDP - you think Amaechi is any less crooked?

Even those who weren't in PDP had their hands in the mess made by the military - first and foremost amongst them is Buhari and yet people were screaming 'Sai Baba' not so long ago.

Aren't there verses in the Bible about people who pray to be seen?

Daviddson:
I'm actually in favor of showing these traditional rulers who are literally worshiped in Nigeria that they're not above the law and I'd have celebrated it if Sanusi had been something else, but this is clearly a case of persecution and that of powers that be trying to bully him into submission. I hope it fails.

We have no use for any of them. I'm yet to see what they do to justify their positions and lofty expenses.

deWav:
Wrong, the problem Nigeria has is some selected retarded few chose to be sentimental.

Many countries with public sector anchoring their development

Which countries? How big are these countries population wise? How diverse are they? Is everyone waiting on the FG as they do they in Nigeria?

Freewoman:
Nonsense Nigerians, when one says the truth , the idiots will come up with stupids corruption charges against the person, all to attempt to shut him up, Sanusi has been the most out-spoken emir of our time, he do say the truth because he is learned than those illustrates in state house of assemble, many can;t even read their name talk less of write them, what are they probing? , Sanusi never work for state but for Fedral government, he knows their secretes

He doesn't always say the truth, sometimes he shoots his mouth off without thinking.

He spoke about polygamy and the problem of overpopulation recently but how many wives does this fool have? How many children?

He is as much a cause of Northern Nigeria's problems as anyone.

I hope that there is a provision within Sharia Law to deal with this monster adequately.

If they can cut the hands of thieves and stone people for consensual pre-marital sex then they should have no problem dropping this witch from the top of a very tall building. Or a plane flying at altitude.

GodIsFoolish:
the same governor that approved N600 million for Christmas tree and New Year decorations in Owerri, He awarded the contract to his younger sister, he spent 600m on stuff that lasted for only one month and still owe pensioners

www.nairaland.com/attachments/5308352_untitled59_jpeg86c381c11765b43018917dee2c51efe4

That's a woman?

Funlord2:
Nepotism exists in all parts of this country! Na their way!

It's only a few who have been able to do so successfully.

Airforce1:
Why are they shielding the criminal?

Tell us his name , retrieve the money from him and put him behind bars.

Thank you.

You cannot say that you are fighting corruption and then refuse to ensure that people are held to account.

How can a man run for office when he is literally fighting for his life?

deWav:
The same $2B would be comfortably embezzled by some unfortunate greedy fellows among us. Incomplete senses if you ask me.

Not if it was a private sector project where you need to be able to show a return on investment.

The problem Nigeria has is an obsession with the public sector.

iamtewwy:
even tho this regime is clueless but i would not b biasd i would say d truth... omo i never notice any insufficient power for my area oo. i dey use light sleeep. 18-20hrs daily and even the niegbhouring area dey get light.. so abeg were this statistics comes from? lets not always filled with hates biko

The power situation in Abuja is appalling.

This is Abuja where power used to be normal, unlike most of the country.

Where is Mr Rocket Science?

I can recall him being so prominent in the news a couple of years ago. Now he's invisible.

How many pikin does this thug have?

Almost every month it's one Obasanjo child marrying or divorcing...

iceboy4752:
So Bukhari, Tabari and Ibn Ishaq are all in the Qur'an. Is that your point?

The Hadith are no longer important in Islam? Is that what you are saying?

Are they no longer Islamic authors?

iceboy4752:
In fact, it's so ironical that you're even the OP. You posted Tafsirs thinking they are Suras from the Qur'an. Do you even know what a Sura is?
Oga you must be joking!

What difference does it make - is it not in the Qu'ran?

That is the foundation for the faith of the Muslims.

iceboy4752:
Weren't you the one who said that the proofs are from our 'special books?' besides non of these events were recorded in the Qur'an but it Tafsirs alone. I can see that you're one of those who know nothing about Islam yet they keep wailing.

I've only quoted from the Qu'ran, you are bringing up other texts. Indirectly you are undermining the authority of the Qu'ran by admitting (implicitly) that is incomplete and faulty.

iceboy4752:
You see yourself?
Is Ibn Ishaq in anyway related to the Qur'an

Why did you bring him up? Were you not admitting that the Quran is unverified jibberish? Is he not a historian? A recorder of facts?

iceboy4752:
Can't you refute what I said? Besides the original hagiography of Ibn Ishaq didn't survive.

Are you admitting that the Quran has been altered and is imperfect?

iceboy4752:
Abu Bakar freed Bilaal Ibn Rabah from slavery after he saw him been inflicted with torments like the placing of rock you posted prior to Ibn Ishaq's account. Now after he freed Billal from the pagans who were his masters, he took good care of him and never treated him unfairly. Bilaal in fact fell in love with Islam till. he converted.
In fact, he was selected as the first Mu'azin(caller of prayers) in Islam. The Prophet never discriminated him because he was black and neither did the Muslims.
That's just point number 1 to refute your lies.

What 'lies'? Those are quotes lifted directly from your special book.

MrBrownJay1:
As much as these gals are 17, we have to be realistic here.... And parents should instead take full blame for this nonsense OR educate their DAMN kids. If that babe had not gotten pregnant, these deluded 17yr d gals would have continue enjoyed being "abused" in silence.
WTF!!!!

At 17?

Sorry to say but I think these girls were doing runs.

Trudax:
I think the posters above me are missing this point. This thread isn't about how Allah views blacks or how Arabs perceive blacks or anything remotely related to slavery. What this illuminates is the lifestyle of most of sub-saharan African prior to slavery and colonization.

I am really tired of black Africans evading the truth about their intellectual inferiority in comparison to other races. These comments aren't from European imperialists who want to paint a false picture of Africa. These are comments from pious muslim scholars who would have no reason to alter the factuality of their observations.

The only way to deal with a problem is to first acknowledge it. We need to stop heaving the causes of our problems on colonization and slavery. The root of our problem is from within, not form without. Always playing the victim card won't take us anywhere.

"Merriment dominates the black man because of his defective brain." This quote sadly but accurately reaffirms the thesis of the thread I made about how excessively extroverted Nigerian culture is and what that says about our level of intellect on the average.

These Arabs are no different from Europeans who wish to paint a false image of Africa. I don't understand why you cannot see that.

What makes someone 'pious'? Islam is a tool of war and oppression.

You have taken the words of a few desert dwellers but what about people who commented on the splendor of the Swahili coast? Or the organization of the Benin Empire? Or Great Zimbabwe? Or the wealth and learned men that were to be found in Timbuktu. Why would you ignore the positive to latch onto the negative and obviously one-sided narrative?

As to your comment about Africans and merriment? As if they are the only ones who look to enjoy life? Europeans consume alcohol at unconscionable rates for that very purpose. Same with illicit substances. What Africans do by comparison is mild.

There are problems but embracing life isn't even in the top ten when it comes to Nigeria's issues. That's a gross misdiagnosis on your part.

MDsambo:
What an expensive bullshit.

1. The Ka'abah is black


2. The first person to call the adhan was black


3. Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) once said: "A white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good actions.

None of that negates what was said.

Why would the Quran say what was said if your third point was truly valid?

tensazangetsu20:
I don't think there is anyone who hates Nigeria as much as I do but please you guys should cool down on some of the lies.

There are Nigerians doing great things, if you have kids and you want to push them to their limits there are schools in Nigeria to do that. We have loyola, rainbow college etc. This schools keep on sending Nigerians to ivy leagues schools every year.

We have Nigerians all around the world who are distingushing themselves in their various fields be it engineering, law or medicine.

If you didn't succeed in your life, you have yourself to blame. India is a shitty country but Indians are all over the world doing extraordinary things.

We don't hate Nigeria. Why waste your time on something you hate? If you do then this is the wrong message board and wrong thread for you.

What we dislike is the aversion to change within some quarters. The fact that this is the third such thread that I've seen on this forum around a similar topic suggests that a generation has opened its eyes. Hopefully this will inspire political change along with a real, long lasting societal shift.

I agree with everything that Trudax said although I have to admit that at least amongst the people I know the foolish practices have subsided somewhat - the reckless breeding isn't as common; the obsession with 'discipline' over reason is subsiding in the home (the schools are still a problem); and the dogmatic attachment to 'morality' as laid down in religious texts is also slowly falling away.

The bane of religion however remains strong, although I'm happy to see online that there are a lot of Nigerians who will speak out against it.