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Nonsense report.

You people will believe anything and these stupid blogs will say anything to get traffic.

Please be more responsible.

This is what happens when people are conditioned to believe all manner of lies by way of religion, no one asks pertinent questions.

supomi:
The fact that you had a one -off not-too- good experience with them doesntt mean they are worst. Bro, they are the only Nigerian airline to have undergone an operational audit. Arik and Aero will feel they are on top of their game for now but Dana Air has experienced it and they have learnt their lessons. Almost all airline in Nigeria have their annoying times. U have been lucky with Arik. ASK 10 out of 20 people how Arik air is and u will hia stories. U av had a fantastic time with Arik and Aero, I have had an awesome experience with dana. Till i experience one, Dana all the way. the airline is the safest you can think of for now.

How long have you been working for Dana?

supomi:
Teaming up with Dana Air is the best decision for now ooo my brother. I trust you are not current you wd have heard that aero was mismanged and now grounded. Arik with their award for poor service ? abeg bros sit down ooo.

Dana Air is one of the strongest airlines you can tink of now. How many airlines will go tru an accident and bounce bck looking stronger daily? Ayade made a good decision bros

Dana are worse than Arik when it comes to poor service - I've seen their frustrated customers at MM2 often enough to realise that I never need use them.

Aero may have gone but they took me to Ghana and back safely many times, I don't have anything negative to say about them. They never lost my luggage, always treated me with decency and respect.

There are other airlines besides Dana. I don't know how they were allowed to fly in Nigeria again or why any right thinking person would use them.

The other airlines have their issues but at least they'll get you home alive.

majekdom2:
No, even with the post and previous ones, you are always quick to point out the cons, leaving out the pros. That is what an irrational critic does as it is that case of many Nigerians. Always criticising as long as they don't believe in the ideology. So, now answer this are robbers, rapist, burglers, militants religion affiliated? There are atheists amongst them, does it mean that atheism is wrongly practised.
Hello, understand that human beings are imperfect, the religion is being practised by humans and there is every tendency for an individual to misunderstand what is being preached/ taught him, And a reason why you see extremist all around. If you are a history person, you will understand that some societies were governed by religious doctrines even in the west but we barely have them critical about religion as things evolved
I ll keep saying it. There is no such person as an atheist. An atheist has claimed to be an atheist 1. because he expected some good things from a God sometime and did not receive it 2. His morality and conscience is being questioned by himself.
You are telling me about 10hrs in church.... How about smokers whose smoking is dangerous to everyone, a prostitute that sleeps around - is it not safer to stick to a partner. You are just seeking perfection from the religious, that you will never see and get and that will always be your basis for talking down religion but the good news is, religion is here to stay and stay forever.

The religions themselves make claims that you are now refuting. They claim to be derived from books inspired by flawless deities, you are now contradicting that claim. How do perfect deities create imperfections to begin with? Where is the logic in that theory?

The truth is that they cannot be 'perfect' because the books are contradictory. The books sanction some of the most evil acts of mankind - human sacrifice, ethnic slaughter. drowning, rape, murder, theft, forced marriage, slavery, intra-generational punishments.

You suggested that the reason why Mark Zuckerberg's wife keeps having miscarriages is because of their lack of religious faith. Now that I've pointed out the many problems faced by the majority of religious people you accuse me of focusing on the negative. Why did you not focus on the fact that Mark Zuckerberg and his wife are healthy? That he has a thriving business? Is this not you being a hypocrite? The issues faced by Mark Zuckerberg are trivial compared to those faced by the children of Muslim parents in the IDP camps who are starving or the children of xtian parents who have been targeted for slaughter by their Muslim neighbours.

I am well aware that societies that supported slavery, witch burning, wife beating and other destructive practices were deeply religious. That does not help your argument. My point is not that African xtians/muslims are especially bad but that religion brings out the worst because it is inherently foolish.

You can be an atheist and do evil but such people are not hiding behind a moronic creed. They will claim an earthly reason for their conduct and not a fanciful, deluded deity as the inspiration for their misconduct. At least in such cases we can quickly identify mental illness if that is the issue but when a xtian says that they beat their child because there was a demon in him/her is that person mentally ill or just another religious person? When a Muslim kills because of Jihad is that mental illness or is that a man practising his religion? Is there a difference between mental illness and religious belief?

Smokers are silly but so long as they smoke alone they only hurt themselves. Religious people do not talk to the sky by themselves - they do what they can to drag others into their foolish practices. Churches in Nigeria are very good at disturbing the peace of others, likewise mosques, especially in Lagos.

Prostitution is silly without contraceptive use. That is when it is dangerous and when diseases spread. Otherwise you cannot stop people from using their bodies to make money. Even your beloved mythical Jesus refrained from passing judgement on the prostitutes in his social circle.

As to your point about there not being any atheists - you are reverting to your first argument that was promptly debunked. You cannot read minds, you do not know what anyone else thinks. There are many people who are not told about the god delusion as children and when they hear about it as adults they find it amusing or disturbing. It is only those who have been raised to believe in nonsense who will find the idea of deity to be soothing.

P.S.
What are the pros of being ignorant to the world and putting all your faith in a fairy tale?

majekdom2:
why blame them? Is their life isn't it? Does it add to your problems? There are things I do in my private, will you blame me for it too? How is the way people have chosen to live their life affected you? The civil/legislative laws were not made based on religious beliefs, so, how has this affected your existence?

Thank you, your statement has confirmed what I've long since known about religious people - that they are fundamentally self-centred, irresponsible people. A rational person would not even attempt to argue that wilfull ignorance is acceptable.

You cannot afford to think that way when you have Boko Haram slaughtering everything in sight because of religion; blending into local communities because the community empathises with them; then supplies them with food and fuel.

It does affect me because no one lives in complete isolation. Terrorism is a threat to all of us. To think otherwise is to be naive and socially irresponsible and further cements my concern towards those who waste 10 hours a week in religious houses but remain ignorant as to socio-economic issues; basic hygiene issues; wider healthcare matters, political matters and potential solutions.

How do you plan on having a functioning democracy when you have an ignorant populace blinded by religion? How would they know how to vote for a viable candidate when they are so attached to religion? Is this not why we have people voting for Muslims because they are Muslim and not because they are competent, as was the case with Buhari?

And religious laws are in place in the North. Or have you already forgotten about Sharia?

Legislation codifies the cultural beliefs of a people - in Nigeria that includes the illogical attachment to Christianity and Islam. This is why it has been impossible to ratify the Child Rights Act in the North where they argue that it is their religious right to marry and violate children.

Why do you think abortion is such a problem for some that it is illegal? It is because of a childish belief that every pregnancy should be brought to term, irregardless of whether the parents are in a position to take care of the child. This is particularly silly in a nation such as Nigeria where the population growth outstrips the economic and infrastructural development.

Banks and businesses are closed for religious holidays so how can you ask how it affects me? Why should I have to wait because of someone else's mental insanity?

The reason why you don't see religion as harmful is because you have shut your eyes to the consequences of ignorance when they are there for all to see.

majekdom2:
Again, you are failing to understanding where I am coming from. One's success, value adding is not tagged to one's religion. Now, I can tell you what you believe as an atheist. You believe as an atheist that if truly there is a God, we should only sleep, eat fat, wake, not die and never struggle. That's your ideaology. You are not a free thinker, you are blaming a God, yet you don't want to accept his existence. Yes, fine, good for you but that's not to say people that believe there is a God controlling their existence are insane. Like I said before, education just like religion has a way to make people feel less superior, a reason many religious people are afraid to explore their ideas and imagination. You may want to read this book- Education in England by Derek Gillard. The English men were against education initially. My post about education was not just about you but about "african atheist". It was God seeking people that brought it to this part of the world.
Like I said, you have this opinion about development because of what the present world has presented you with.

I don't blame god for anything because there is no deity. I previously mentioned how it is the failing of individuals and communities that they fail to develop. I haven't mentioned any of the millions of deities that mankind has created.

I blame people for wasting their time on religion and divisive myths. I blame people for refusing to use their own brains and instead handing over control of their faculties to religious charlatans.

There are people who waste 10 hours a week in church but will not come together to educate themselves on health issues; remain ignorant to contraceptives; child delivery; or even basic food hygiene.

And it is the religious bodies that lead people astray in that manner.

majekdom2:
how old are you? You as a Nigerian can read and write because the missionaries came to Africa- that' my point. This same westeners have created a yardstick to let you believe more people are living in poverty which is your basis for un belief in God. Before the industrialisation age, what was the basis of good living. Eat, farm, sleep. Industrialisation is the yard stick for the measurement of the present day quality of life and as someone said earlier, the world is changing faster than we are developing thus the reason why poverty and perhaps your state is your basis for your non belief.

You do not know where I hail from or where I was educated so to assume that it is because of xtianity that I can read and write is foolish. Besides, it is possible to teach language, literature, maths and science without any religious input whatsoever. There are Federal Government schools that at one point were very well staffed, well funded and attracted excellent pupils. They were completely areligious. There were other schools established by local communities in the South that were likewise areligious.

It doesn't matter which era there have always been more people living in poverty, struggling to feed themselves so it has nothing to do with anyone providing a yard stick. That is a basic, logical observation.

The world is ever changing, the only thing that does not change is the religious mythology that some people remain anchored too. That is why some people are not developing - because they remain anchored to moronic ideas such as omnipotent deities and holy books.

Do you think those people would be struggling to develop if they embraced knowledge acquisition and technological advancement with the same vigour that they have for religion?

majekdom2:
how old are you? You as a Nigerian can read and write because the missionaries came to Africa- that' my point. This same westeners have created a yardstick to let you believe more people are living in poverty which is your basis for un belief in God. Before the industrialisation age, what was the basis of good living. Eat, farm, sleep. Industrialisation is the yard stick for the measurement of the present day quality of life and as someone said earlier, the world is changing faster than we are developing thus the reason why poverty and perhaps your state is your basis for your non belief.

It doesn't matter which era there have always been more people living in poverty, struggling to feed themselves so it has nothing to do with anyone providing a yard stick.

That is a basic, logical observation.

You do not know where I hail from or where I was educated so to assume that it is because of xtianity that I can read and write is foolish.

The world is ever changing, the only thing that does not change is the religious mythology that some people remain anchored too, that is why some people are not developing - because they remain anchored to moronic ideas such as omnipotent deities and holy books. Do you think those people would be struggling to develop if they embraced knowledge acquisition and technological advancement with the same vigour that they have for religion?

majekdom2:
you have not made any sense. Your reason for stating there is no God is simply because of the ills you see around. Have you tried to attribute the Good you see to a God. In your thoughts, there is no God because people a hungry. FYI, you read and write because there were christian missionaries.

There are more people living in poverty than there are living well.

That is a global phenomenon that is not unique to this era.

So I ask you again, why is most of the world languishing in poverty?

If most of the world is bad then would that not lead to a natural conclusion that the creator is thus? Or maybe there is no creator? But to assume that there is a creator and pretend that he is wholly good is to be blind to the world as it is.

And reading and writing has nothing to do with missionaries or religion.

Maths, science have nothing to do with religion either, which is why many of the schools established by missionaries refused to teach science to their students.

Why is the minister for transport talking about looted funds?

Why don't you tell us about your plans for building highways to traverse Nigeria? Or how many roads that have been planned and built by your office?

Versailles:
Sure.
As a logical Being in tuned with my Beliefs. I find this completely Amusing that whenever the Issue of GOD is brought out in Situations Like this.
I have never for Once never seen an Atheist who did not forget to point out All Faults and Mishaps Happening in the World. and Blame it on GOD.
Making a Believer look Stupid and Dumb. But I tell you.
Countries in Which Poverty and Disease related Issues Abound, Should be Checked and Blamed on by the Government. not to be used as an Excuse that God exists and He never answers the Prayers of his People.
Atheism and Agnosticism in which you pointed out in Developed countries. Who Channelled Religion into Africa?
Yes we Believed and were Set free from the Shackles of Orthodox Practices and Progressed. Yes. Even in Supernatural Encounters of GOD's Divine Power.
This Same Developed Countries that Brought Religion have the Highest number of Atheist's. Why? They feel the Same GOD they Introduced is no Longer enough. Since Exploitations and So-called Dicoveries have been Made in the name of Science. The love of GOD since has Grown Weak. and Fading Out.
And when Christians not X-tains Lose their Child? It is a period of Grief, but they Question GOD and just accept it as It were.
Christians also Divorce now adays. yes the Bible admonishes What God has Joined no man should put Assunder.
But if your Spouse were Dsynfunctional and Abusive in a Christian Marriage, Would you remain there and Continue to get Mis-treated? This is not a Matter of Painting it as "Christianity" is an Hoax.
It is a matter of using LOGIC and Common Reasoning.

Why do you not use logic and reasoning in all things?

Is it logical to suppose that there is an all loving, all knowing god when there are children dying of malnutrition? When there are children being abused and molested?

Why do you insist that virgin births and talking animals are factual?

Who told you about god? Who told you about the devil? Where is the evidence for either? Where is your logic and reasoning in supposing that either element exists?

And the people who introduced xtianity and Islam into Africa did so because they recognised them as weapons of enslavement and subjugation. It's just unfortunate that many Africans are so mystified and confused that they will defend these same foolish religions with their lives. Many will turn on their neighbours and families because of their belief in these myths.

pippimp:
And yet every sane country is shying away from it. You confuse yourself with your incoherence. And your gullibility is admirable. You actually trust anything coming out of Nigeria.

Where did I advocate for state run enterprises?

You told a lie and I refuted the lie, many times over.

You clearly have a probably with reading comprehension.

Maski87:
Common airline is not a profit able business, don't waste your money

Airlines make sense if you are in the business of bringing tourists to your state.

Why not transport your visitors yourself if you can, rather than rely on third party airlines such as Arik or Aero that aren't reliable.

I just don't get why they teamed up with Dana when they're even worse than the two that I mentioned.

nsilordgmail:
Are u paid to say these shit? How dare u compare this liar to Donald Duke? Within one year of Duke's administration his visions were visible and people it. Ayade had been competing with Buhari in who should be Mr World Tourist! Mention one project that had took off under this noise maker guvnor.

I'm not a fan of Ayade either, he seems to be somewhat of a clown, constantly playing to the audience and sucking up to the Buhari administration but let's see what he does before judging him so harshly.

And the Calabar Conference Center, housing hospital and golf course are only across the river from Tinapa. The entire Summit Hills development can be used to revive Tinapa and turn it into a retail hub and not just a duty free shopping complex.

http://www.estateintel.com/development-summit-hills-calabar/

pippimp:
You are still arguing for me. I started by saying that governments should not have a hand in companies. Especially for a country like Nigeria that cannot maintain a university's toilet. You came up with different examples of companies who at one time were run by the government who today are run by private companies because they know it is not a good thing. Thereby furthering my argument. And your literal interpretation of words is hilarious to say the least. Lol. No, you don't get shot for saying China is a capitalist country in China.

Again, read the entire text instead of picking the odd sentence.

Your attention span is horrendous.

I gave examples of state run airlines, as of today. In addition to those that began as state run enterprises.

I'm not generally an advocate of state run businesses but they can work if the best practices are followed. If there are checks and balances. If there was one state in Nigeria I would trust to get this right it would be Cross River. There seems to be less waste, less stupidity there than in many other states.

You don't seem to have an argument, just rehashing hearsay for the sake of it.

Versailles:
I Have Always Wondered about this too @OP.
I am a Christian Myself.
When Zuckerberg arrived into Nigeria, Everyone was all Oooh's and Aaaah's. as He being 32 and able to Achieve all this Feat at a very Young age. Being the World's Richest at 5th and Probably Climbing Up to 3rd and 2nd in the Nearest Future.
When I discovered he was an Atheist, though raised a Jew by Faith. and He still believes Buddhism was a Good religious Faith. I was Shocked.
But If you notice something, when He and Priscilla got married 2012, they Sufferred 3 misscarriages Until Last year. They had Max.
Upon Max's arrival. They Quickly Intiated the Zuckerberg-Chan Intiative requesting that they would Donate almost All of their welath to the Charity. which would be After their Death?
Is Anything Fishy Here?
He might be very Rich and All. But to all Atheist's out there.

The Bible says "A Foolish Man Says in His Heart, There is No GOD"
GOD is Real and all Powerful. If you don't Believe, Then you should never pray to be In a Life-Death Threatening Situation. Then you are going to Appreciate the Grace of GOD over your life.

Mark Might Be AN Atheist, But that Surely Means He doesn't believe in the Devil. Renouncing his Belief, Doesn't mean He doesn't Believe Deep down in his Heart something else.

You cannot read another man's mind.

You have no idea what he believes, you have to take it as given that what he says is what he believes.

And a lot of religious people suffer miscarriages and other forms of hardship - what does that tell us about their god(s), their faiths?

When a xtian couple loses a child to illness do you question their god?

When a xtian couple divorces do you question the statement - what god has put together let no man put asunder?

Or do you do what most xtians do and ignore the evidence in front of you, preferring to find solace is myth and myopic thought?

Most muslims and xtians live in poverty, in some of he most unstable parts of the world - why is their god ignoring their cries? Why is it that atheism and agnosticism is found in more stable, equitable societies?

pippimp:
You are just googling without reading through. British airways is not run by the british Government nor most of the examples you put up. And why do you think they elected to have those enterprises run by private agencies? Plus, don't go to china and say they are a capitalist nation. Over there, people are put in front of firing squads for that.

Did you read what I read or did you just skim?

I said BA began life as state owned.

People are not put in front of firing squads for saying that they are capitalist. Stop spreading lies.

It's clear you have no clue of that which you speak.

You insist on making false statements with language that you appear not to understand. Then you fail to read the responses to your irrational comments.

pippimp:
Go back and read what i wrote. I said "in a capitalist run economy". There is a difference.

China is very much a capitalist nation.

Just because they have a communist party does not mean that they are any less capitalist than any of the EU nations.

Speaking of Europe, many of the biggest outfits in that part of the world began as state enterprises.

Deustche Post, for example. Also British Gas, since merged with Shell was a British state owned company.

Many of the biggest airlines began life as state owned businesses - British Airways, Lutftansa, Air France.

Singapore Airlines is majority state owned.

Qatar Airways, Etihad, Saudia and Emirates are still state owned.

abhosts:
There is a difference. Nigerian atheists are usually very Rude, Proud and Condescending to people of Faith but that cannot be said of Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg.

You do not know these people personally.

Many of the people who dealt with Zuckerberg in his earlier days when he was trying to build a company that was built on someone else's idea, have said just that - he was rude, condescending and inconsiderate. According to those who knew him at Harvard his decision to create Facebook was driven by his social inadequacies. Same for Steve Jobs and Bill Gates.

And people of faith are even worse in Nigeria, constantly trying to force their religion on anyone that they meet.

But when you ask for proof they get angry...

pippimp:
No it's not. Anything state run will never amount to anything. Even if it is run by dana air. It will just be a tool to defraud the people of the state. It is a proven fact in a capitalist economy.

China has several state run/owned enterprises that have gone on to become amongst the biggest in the world.

Including the construction company that was contracted to build Nigeria's new airport terminals in Lagos and Abuja; as well as the rail lines from Ibadan to Lagos; Abuja to Kaduna; and Lagos to Calabar.

davodyguy:
Lets not be in a hast.

Tinapa failed under Donald Duke, adfter investing close to 30 billion Naira.

I did the valuation of Tinapa. I know everything about that place

Tinapa was stifled by elements in the FG, not because of Donald Duke.

If it were allowed to play host to the necessary port facilities it would be a success and still could be were it not for certain elements dedicated to sabotaging any attempt to build a viable FG licensed port in the south eastern corner of Nigeria.

It may still be a success once the housing, golf course and hospital on the other side of river are completed. Then it can play host to retail facilities for the people who live in or visit that area of Calabar.

TheMascot:
Oya pause..

You know that the fg is planning to switch to nuclear power ba ..

Kogi state governor just signed a mou to rejuvenate the ajaokuta steel company

And by the way not only northerners can work in the company.. So instead of trying to cut them out.. Lets take what we can too from them as they are taking from us.. Don't forget... Ajaokuta steel company was way preffered by workers during its years of functionality

Kogi state will do what it's been doing - nothing.

That steel company that has been leeching funds and producing nothing will continue to be uncompetitive because Chinese steel is sold for below the cost of production.

And even if Nigeria is to have a viable steel industry surely it makes more sense to host it nearly to the iron ore and coal deposits in the East than in Kogi?

We do not need to 'taking' from anyone. Let each region utilise it's own resources to grow a vibrant, liberal economy.

Instead of waiting on the incompetent FG let us agitate for legislature that will shift the balance of power closer to the common man at state and local government level.

STFUareyouG0d:
Managed by Dana?

I'm amazed that Dana are still allowed to operate in Nigeria.

And their service is horrendous.

Cally Air is a good idea but to be managed by Dana is to be mismanaged.

More lies.

What else is new?

More lies.

What else is new.

nextprince:
If u check now, u will find out that they are christians, that is what they are taught in the church. Religion of criminals should be part of their identity when the public is being informed cos I'm working on a crime-related academic research.

You think Islam is better?

Both religions teach stupidity and dishonesty as a means of survival.

Hopefully we can eradicate both creeds from Nigerian society, or at least relegate them to the background.

TeamSimple:
You not making sense a bit.

Does Nigeria need baby factory

Does Nigeria need drug peddlers

Does Nigeria need avengers

Does Nigeria need ipob

Does Nigeria need ritualist

Does Nigeria need kidnappers

But Nigeria needs Dangote

Nigeria needs Agric produce

Nigeria needs the Dam

Nigeria need solid minerals

So yes Nigeria need the North.

Which 'dam'? One dam is not going to power the whole country.

The entire nation has solid minerals.

If you think that the North is so useful then agitate for Araba or at least full federalism. Devolve as many powers to the states as possible so that we are not handicapped by the slowest amongst us.

We know that you will not because the North is dependent upon leeching from the South.

TheMascot:
Bros calm down first ooh. They have nickel.. They have uranium.
They have steel abi iron ore... They have the capability to feed the whole naija.. True talk. They get their own wahala but in the long run.. We still need them

They have raw materials in the ground but no technical no how.

Chad has uranium too - are they in good shape?

All of these Sahelian nations have natural resources but very stupid customs which hinder their development.

We do not need such people keeping us anchored to the 19th century.

Uricas:
I laugh your ignorance. Were you in Naij during the tomatoe recession? Every part of this country is useful to the country in one way or the other. The North is still thee food basket of this country.

Nigeria imports most of its food so how exactly is the North anyone's bread basket?

Is it not in the North East where they are struggling to feed people in IDP camps?

Is it not the North that has the highest incidence of malnutrition?

You people can keep spreading your myths but with every day the truth comes out.

You can't feed yourselves, not to speak of the rest of the nation.

Nigeria needs Lagos.

Nigeria needs the Niger Delta.

Nigeria needs the East.

Nigeria needs the Middle Belt.

But does Nigeria need the North?

Does Nigeria need Boko Haram?

Does Nigeria need polio?

Does Nigeria need Sharia Law?

Does Nigeria need Almajiri?

And yet this current budget allocates more to wages than ever...

How does that work?

This person failed at common sense.

If you want to tell the truth online create an account with a false name.