₦airaland Forum

Angelfrost:
I hate to come off as bigoted, but what do you individuals from that region actually gain in such illegal activities in the shitiest parts of the globe: Bangladesh, Malaysia, Brazil, Mongolia, India, Pakistan (of all places ffs), etc...

Is it that some of us just don't value our lives at all??! Or is being wealthy by all means the sole reason for being created??!...

All these pointless risks just to show off and oppress during Christmas... Pity!!!

Malaysia is okay. Likewise parts of Brazil.

But those other countries...

Hunchogee:
Is well. .atleast we are improving

That is true.

Hunchogee:
Please can you clarify more ??

He's saying that using public funds in a proper fashion is the bare minimum. It's only because Nigerians are used to nonsense that this amazes them.

NDDC is probably the most corrupt institution in Nigeria.

More crooked than any state or local government. And worse than any of the religious bodies that exist solely to fleece the stupid and desperate.

robinso01:
To me, religion hasn't been the problem of Nigerians, our problem is the way we accept it, Africans always overdo with religions, whites that introduced the religion to us were not as religious as we are, blacks always try to abuse everything, such as education, technology, politics, etc.
Whites that introduced education to us didn't even practices 10-14 hrs classes, but in Africa, you will see schools teaching students from 8 am to 6pm, even after the school, some parents will still enroll their children for home lesson, some schools will even organize Saturdays and Sundays lesson. Blacks don't do things accordingly like whites used to do. African churches will organized services everyday, even when Bible only mentioned about sabbath day only to be remembered, and some people will even refused to work, only to be praying to God for help, even when the Bible says " faith without work is dead. Religion wasn't meant to be sources of income, but we Africans always try to use any means as sources of income. As soon as Africans start doing things accordingly, without adding overdo to it, that's when everything can seems to be alright. Irreligious is not the solution to get Nigeria to a better place, we've seen a lot countries that are religious and are doing well, there are some countries that's not religious and are still struggling to be a better place as well.

Abuse of power, a lack of self restraint and mechanisms for accountability.

Insanity.

Hopefully he gets the help that he needs.

Same for that Christ Embassy clown he says many of the same stupid things.

Etinosa1234:
what will u now say abt Muslims

They are the same.

okpukpu:
Must they name it Church of Satan? Knowing that Church is associated with Christianity. Why not mosque of satan. The truth is that, Christianity is the most peaceful and loving believe.

That's the whole point.

They draw attention to themselves by using the fear an hatred that the religious have for anything that is 'not of god'.

Threads like this aid their cause.

Which diasporans? The ones in mental institutions, abi?

Olam09:
i know some idiot will say God is not real afterall you believe satan exist. if God doesn't exist how do we know The Good from d bad how do we know this is evil try to reason with me our atheist

Church of Satan does not believe in Satan. Ironic I know but it's just a moniker used to set them apart from the traditional church that believes in all manner of puerile nonsense.

EliteBiz:
Religion(Christianity /Islam etc) are all tools created by men(with the help of the enemy) to blind the minds of men(to cause division, to restrict mankind from attaining the image of his maker, to hinder mankind from having dominion over everything on earth, to enslave mankind inother to allow them worship fellow men such as Pastors, Imams, etc).

Religion fanatics are fools, however, Atheists are blind fools while the worshippers of the enemy of mankind (devil) are condemned fools.

The wise ones are those who seek their maker, search for truth to all things, Love their maker with all their heart, mind, soul and all their whole being. This are the ones that are aware that many are perishing for lack of knowledge and are not slaves to their religion nor their religion leaders. This ones will refuse to inherit lies from their parents.
Be wise.

Shalom.

You should look into the church of satan before commenting. They don't believe in a deity, or satan.

He's the one who played Christensen. He should look at himself.

Mumu people.

Keep enriching your enemies.

kponkedenge:
I would say Ecobank, I receive credit alert from them on my savings account despite the fact that I hardly ever use the account.
My most active accounts are in Access bank which I have two accounts there.
I have never ever received any credit alert from Access bank..... Only debit. I was recently debited for the stamp duty charge three times and only credited back twice. I'm still waiting for my N50 balance.
Ecobank rarely debit my account.

There's something wrong with your alerts. They should be able to fix that if they are informed of the matter.

I get both credit and debit alerts (sms and email).

xynerise:
Christianity is not a religion

Thank you supporting my point with your comment.

xynerise:
There are some things we need to apply common sense to

There is no 'common sense' when it comes to religion.

If a child needs loving parents and you can provide a loving home why do you need the Bible to tell to do that which is good?

Does the Bible tell you how to drive? How to use the internet? How to make a phone call?

This thread is proof of how dangerous religion/authoritarianism is.

This man is a certified slowpoke.

As is anybody who attends his church and feeds into his nonsense.

What is "ultra-modern"?

What does that even mean?

Why do useless Nigerian politicans throw such stupid terms around?

Gerrard59:
But Kobojunkie is right, there's no law which states that the end result of not adhering to social distancing in a church warrants it to be demolished. Hitherto, if the state government had sent a bill to the HoA, got it passed and signed that any religious organisation contravening it will have its premises demolished, then fine and good. Anyone who sees a good thing with this act but criticised Wike's is a hypocrite. The problem is that Nigeria is a lawless country if not this church should sue the government to court and ask where in the constitution or by-laws of the state is demolition the response to non-adherence to social distancing.

I didn't criticize Wike and doubt anybody who has observed Nigerians during this pandemic would do so with a straight face.

And yes Nigeria is a lawless country full of uncivilized, myopic people hence why Wike felt compelled to resort to that which he did. There's a global pandemic and yet not only do they continue services but don't even have the sense to ensure that any of the recommended measures are in place to avoid the spread of covid-19? Tear it down.

Since the ONLY thing that Nigerians respect (and even that is a stretch, respect is in short supply in Nigeria) then hit them in their pockets until they understand. Because clearly they care naught for life.

Kobojunkie:
No wonder!

No wonder I can think in a straight line.

Unlike some people.

Kobojunkie:
Destruction of private property has absolutely nothing to do with good sanitation, nor does it have anything to do with common sense.
Sure, the police could have been at the site since but still no reason why the law of the land should be flouted.

The law of the land is not the word of the Government, not even in Nigeria. The Nigerian constitution is clear on that. If you have never studied your own constitution, then I suggest you get to it.

It's not mine.

Kobojunkie:
So? That is what due process is all about. In Nigeria, there is a Police department to enforce laws. It is not up to the government to take the law into its own hands.
You people? Cut the bull!

You say "So" to the spread of virus that requires good sanitation, basic hygiene and common sense to defeat it in a society that resents all of those?

Hilarious. Thank you for proving my point about 'you people'.

And the police were most certainly on site while the errant 'business' premises were being demolished. The laws are the government's word and bond with the people that they promise to uphold. There is no such thing as the government taking the law into its own hands, it's already there...

Kobojunkie:
Destruction of private property is wrong no matter who does it.
Whether the church was warned umpteen times or not is not an excuse for the state to take the law into its hands in such a manner. If fines and levies have failed in the past, what about arresting the property owner or, better yet, seizing the property until fines are paid off?
Destruction of private property is wrong!
I have yet to see you show that the law of the land allows for the Government to carry out such barbaric destruction. Governments are guided by laws as well, and I am not certain of the existence of laws anywhere Nigeria that allows the government to destroy private property, even for the reasons given.

Building collapse is no reason for the government to take it upon itself to destroy private property whenever it chooses. There are laws that even Governments are expected to obey.

The building collapse is yet another tragic example of how little these churches care about the welfare of their sheep.

Destruction of property is not outright wrong. It can and should be used in an environment where the people are so accustomed to being illogical that they will put their own lives in danger just so that they can sing and jump around like toddlers.

Kobojunkie:
You can penalize an organization or revoke its business license but destroy private property? That is barbaric and probably not legal even in Akwa Ibom

You revoke their license they will take you to court and stay there doing appeal after nonsensical appeal while they continue their services, spreading covid-19 in the process.

If that is what you want then I am in favor. I have long since accepted that you people cannot reason properly and are thus a hindrance to everything and everyone that you touch.

Kobojunkie:
Nah! It is barbaric.
I disagree! If it can be done in a place like Lagos State, surely it can be done in even Akwa Ibom.

All land may belong to the state but surely the state government has no legal right, even in Akwa Ibom, to bulldoze through any community it so chooses without first compensating the landowners.

Lagos also demolishes churches when they are consistently destructive in their behavior.

I'm sure this church was warned more than three times about their conduct and chose to ignore the state authorities.

What you are showing is a mentality typical of Nigerians - they cry about the lack of law and order, of enforcement of rules and then when the authorities levy punishments on repeat offenders you cry about that too. The way many of you reason is absurd.

It wasn't so long ago that a church in Uyo collapsed, killing over 100 people because they ignored the state's warnings and guidelines regarding buildings but you Nigerians are hard headed so please, keep doing what you've been doing...The world will not miss you when you've eventually wiped yourselves out because of your gross stupidity.

Kobojunkie:
You can penalize an organization or revoke its business license but destroy private property? That is barbaric and probably not legal even in Akwa Ibom

It isn't barbaric at all. Barbaric is allowing a virus to spread because of superstitious beliefs.

You can't levy fines in this part of the world because collecting said fines becomes an issue. The only recourse is to remove the structure. That will send the message that they should adhere to public health measures.

Afterall, all land belongs to the state.

If you follow the actions of most Nigerians you will find that the majority do not adhere to any of the rules of credes set by their respective religions. Besides being seen in the communal noise making halls once a week they do nothing to suggest that they are members of their respective religious sects.

Which would suggest to them that most don't really believe in the nonsense that they espouse. They say that they do because they think that it makes them look good in the eyes of their peers.

Kobojunkie:
What right does the state have to do this though?

This church ignored guidelines to stop the spread of covid-19.

That's a pretty good reason to get rid of an organization.

If they don't care about the health and well-being of their members then what good are they to the society?

Ekugbeh:
Hear ursef again. Think it deeply.
What is an order
What is a guideline
And what is legislation

And to what extent it can be forced on those three.


This is how people lose cases in court, at the end u start calling out judges.

So during a war you think that people will claim that it is their right to gather...

Mumu.

Ekugbeh:
Lol. Sue them. Freedom of gathering enmeshed in the Constitution supersedes any gov order. No order is greater than law of the land.

And besides, Christ Embassy is not a member of CAN.


Lol.

They keep imagining vain things.

An emergency order supersedes legislation.

I don't know why some people think it is so important to gather during a global pandemic but I say that we let them so that they can wipe themselves out.

temptnow:
Pastor Chris oyakhilome and his people are being stupid this Corona season.

They're doing too much.

When are churches and pastors not stupid?