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she got what she deserves from stealing in a country filled with desperate and tired beasts, knowing fully well that this is the outcome if you get caught. she should count her blessings, some are simply killed. let that be a deterrent for other would be thieves

the muscle needs to rest, so going to the gym everyday doing the same thing wont help, unless you do lower body one day and upper body the next

Seyibabalola:
I read of a man who beat his wife to death on my facebook page. And down the post, some ladies commented that all men are evil and dangerous. One of them even expressed a doubt if she would even marry. Now, it is not a new thing that lots of ladies now believe that all men are bad, after probably being jilted or used and dumped by a guy or after reading or hearing about men who beat their wives, even to death like this case here. But this is what i have to say: Marriage is sweet, if only you get things right before going into it. If you prepare well for it, you won't regret getting married and now believing that all men are evil or dangerous.

you started well, so far so good

The first preparation is you yourself changing your bad characters and building yourself up to attract the kind of loving, God fearing, rich and caring man you want as husband.

ERROR #1
nobody should ever try to change who they truly are because guess what?! this is who you are, your essence, your whole, and no matter how you pretend to be different, the natural will always come right back. a man should love the good/bad/ugly and everything that comes along with being YOU, anything less and that person is NOT meant for you.

One major error many ladies make is that they want a good,caring, loving, and rich man, but they are placing themselves too high or expensive in such a way that many of these men think that all they want is money and material wealth.

ERROR #2
there is nothing wrong with having preferences and high standards, so long as you have equally high standards. never sell yourself cheap.

In this case, they have opened an easy way for men who have this money or material wealth, but wrong motives or purpose for relationship or marriage and who would only marry them for their bodies.

ERROR #3
the issue above has nothing to do with the women and all to do with these evil men. a lady who aint moved by money and bling bling will see through the fakeness in that man's heart.... and dismiss him before getting married to his evil nyansh. the desperate/goldigging women who would marry these men in a heartbeat will get what they deserve.

And after getting married and getting their bodies, they start showing them their real colours(the beast in them).

ERROR #4
if a "wise" woman has been tricked into such marriage then divorce will sort this issue, et voila!

Besides, marriage also takes a humble wife to succeed. How many women now a days are submissive to their husbands?

ERROR #5
submissions are for owners and their pets. marriage today is a UNION where both give their input equally for the wellbeing of that union. nobody is above the other and every important decisions should be taken together and with the blessing of the other. a man who expects his wife to be under him, is a weak being!

No matter how rich, beautiful or educated you are, the man is still your head. Be submissive to him. And how many women in marriage have a good relationship with God? If you don't have God in your life, you have failed already.

ERROR #6
using the Bible to dictate what should/shouldnt be done in marriage is a sure way to fail. that same bible tells you to stone a woman who isnt married, is that what you will do if you find out your wife isnt a virgin? get real and start living in the 21century.
and dont forget: take the bible for ALL its worth or nothing, but dont just take what fits your selfish agenda.

In conclusion, not all men are evil or bad. If you want a good man, be a good lady. If you want a sweet marriage, be submissive and have a good relationship with God.

you actually sound like these evil men who want to beat their wives into submission (like the guy you mentionned), and then hide under the laws of that old dated bible verses!

MISS, the breast and tummy part doesnt fit her body type

LOL, he has a LONG way to go before he turns white.

be POSITIVE about your SITUATION/YOURSELF instead of sounding like a dead goat.... you shouldnt even care about these money hungry desperate babes, and instead focus on the "few" good ones out there (if they dont wanna deal with you then thats THEIR loss). there are gems out there but if they were easy to get then what would be the point? they are hard to find but life was never meant to be easy, so keep your head up, have a smile and be prepared for the day you finally meet her. in the mean time, focus on improving your situation and STAY POSITIVE!!!!

pedrilo:
u hit the nail on the head bro! It's complicated situation. And just to add, the lady is hawt!

if she is fiine, it will be even harder for you when the r/ship is over, especially when she starts flirting with colleagues to try getting at you, OR using the office as a war battleground (putting your job at risk)

Ewatomi26:
Mister MBJ, take a chill pill and stop being gender centered, like ladies are cheating the men folks... All this you stated are your opinion, the doesn't stop guy all over the world from footing their bills at date, they want to, its their will.

i am giving you my view on what to be done so that our Nigerian/african sista will get their act together and respect their men. yes, when we have women saying that a man MUST foot the bill "at all cost" or be dismissed, we need to fix these women's failed mindset.

There lots of cash-free date going on around in different parts of the world, especially in schools (universities)... Its still happens... But if the guy want to go extra mile... Its his will.

Allelujah.... so you know that there are tons of cash-free dates but yet never mention it?! again, that extra mile should be an individual choice, not a requirement.

If a lady say the guy MUST pay for the bill, which I don't think a lady would say... Let him pay and opt out from further dates... its so simple

if you dont know what i am talking about, go ask any of your male acquaintances if they have ever met a gal who A) offered to pay for her own meal or B) suggested a cash-free date, like a park etc. you only have to read the many answers from women on this thread to understand that the majority want a man to pay at ALL COST or be dismissed.

even yourself, you called a man asking you to pay for the date "FALLING YOUR HAND".... aka automatic dismissal, right? lol!

what has finances got to do with dating?! so are you saying that poor people shouldnt date? NONSENSE!!!!
dating even if jobless is POSSIBLE, you just have to do things a lil' differently, thats all... but the rewards should be exactly the same.

fleeky:
hmmm...what do u mean by "I have no idea of what love is" ?

the fact that you expect a man to say he loves you after 30days, regardless of that person r what happens in that r/ship, means you are clueless about love. i guess in your world, whether rain or shine, love must appear after 30 days, right? timed love indeed!

but hey, its been 30days, so i guess you love him right? care to tell us what you supposedly "love" about that stranger? or better yet, what do you really know about this stranger?

i guess some women dont know the definition of BEING BUSY. i guess she doesnt believe that he could be doing something more important than her.

as for the NO i love after a months, i can only laugh in Chinese!!!!! this is the perfect example of a gal who has no idea what love is. dey there waiting!!!

madness, the minute her friend told you that she had your pin, was the minute you should have earned your lesson, change the pin and NEVER EVER give it to your gf again... as for the rest, this is WOMEN for you, accept it or become gay.

office romance and romance with neighbors are a big NO NO in my book. if/when you break up, that women will be in your face/space etc, HELL NO!

Ewatomi26:
Lolzzz... mister MBJ... Its a first date... You both decide on where to go, the guy makes suggestions and the lady makes hers, they pick... If for any reason the lady doesn't like where the guy says he can afford... She is free to opt out from such date... Or how do you decide on where you for your dates. And if the guy does not also feel comfortable with the ladies suggestion he is also feel to opt out... What can only be done is cajoling the other party to accept.

the above in bold is funny, lol, "can afford"... so free date is impossible in your world, or what? thats why i have been saying all along to take women to park and getting to know them, while looking at the beautiful sky. sadly, what you wrote can NEVER work, unless, as we both should suggest places to go, we should both pay. how can a woman suggest to go to a place that she has NO MEANS of paying?! a man doesnt owe NOTHING to a woman at this stage, so why should he foot this stranger's bill?

abeg, forget that Romeo and Juliet dream, and understand that if a man pays for a meal, it should be because he DECIDES to do so, and that decision derives from the "level" of fun he had during that date..... but until that check comes and he decides to do so, this gal better believe that whatever she orders, SHE pays for it . thats the only way women can start having RESPECT for all these men they are gladly taking advantage of.

What am trying to correct here is your use of the word BLACKMAIL... I believe in freewill, it can never be by force... You don't feel comfortable opt out of it... I can't be pushed beyond my limit... And do you know there are ladies who also fall into such Blackmails with guys too... Don't be too gender centered dear, what happens to guys also happen to ladies too.

yes this is a foul word but unfortunately, so many women are quick to use such tactics to force men into becoming ATMs. they use their coochies as a carrot, and have these donkeys doing acrobatics in the aim to have their way with them. this is why the majority, when they finally get these babes in bed, they fukc them out of ANGER, they punish them sexually, and want to make it all worth the money they've spent . its like a bill attached to these women's back, and everytime they demand for recharge cards and what not, these guy mark that bill... until it gets to a point where these guys are saying"fukc it, now i just want to recoup my investment", thus smashing that coochie like she stole something from them.

but hey, how would you call a babe telling guys they MUST pay for the date, if they wanna get to know each other, if not blackmail?!

Ewatomi26:
You are also, mister MBJ... I also like to state at this point, that there is a difference between RIGHTS and DESERVES... The man has the right not to or to pay but the woman deserves the man to pay for her, just courtesy...Everyone know how they want to be treated, and they deserve to be treated so and they feel less, when someone treats them below their standard... And they have no choice than to opt out..

BWAAAAAAH!!!!!! hell noooooo! the woman has the RIGHT to demand that she be treated in any way she desires BUT, until that man has confirmed that this lady DESERVES to be treated in such a way, there is NO reason he should treat her the way this lady desires. that would be as crazy as treating a classless lady with respect when she acts as a tramp. women need to act RIGHT if they want to be treated RIGHT, and until then, it should be 50/50 (IMHO)

what you wrote above is the reason why so many women (who are uninterested in a guy) will still go out with him, in order to get free meals, and more, for her and her hungry friends... under the guise of "how men should treat women", BLASPHEMY!

So you don't blame ladies that tell you they would never see such guy again, after treating them below their standard. Its just what they have set for themselves.

a man should treat a woman the way he (and his own mind) BELIEVES she should be treated. there is no world chart that specifies how to treat women because you are all different, and therefore it should be decided on each case basis.... so if a man believes a woman aint worth a meal "yet", thats his RIGHT... just like it is your right to dismiss a guy who want you to go dutch.
if women want to be treated RIGHT then they must act RIGHT, and sadly, simply accepting to go on a date isnt it!

Ewatomi26:
Well stated MBJ... Now have ever thought off this, not all guys have the ability to "pay attention" and in order not to loss their lady, they go the extra mile... You stated about making her laugh, how many guys have this ability to make a lady laugh, so therefore they take them to comedy shows, so as to see their lady laugh... You stated watching movies on a laptop, cool idea, but you know many guys fall asleep while doing this, and I tell, it an insult to your partner to fall asleep while doing such, because you are meant to be paying attention, so some men would rather take their lady to the cinema... You also stated cooking for her, what happens to those men, that can't cook, taking her to a restaurant(affordable) would not be a bad idea... You stated hobbies... Let say one of her hobbies is reading novel, would it not be nice when you buy one or two books for once in a while.

There are some thing that require little spending, which won't hurt his pocket... Not because its her right, but because you want to pay proper attention to her.

yes, you are absolutely RIGHT, but the important point here is that these guys decide "on their own" to do such act. it comes from their own free will due to the mood they are trying to set in that r/ship, because they BELIEVE that it is the right thing to do, and NOT because some woman blackmailed them into doing so.

that is the whole difference in this discussion, the majority of women here believe they deserve to be wine and dined just because they accepted to go on a date (which is beneficial to BOTH of them) and, as many have said here already, they will dismiss the guy if he remotely ask them to contribute to the date (which is beneficial to BOTH of them).

remember, i just gave you many instance where you can give TIME and ATTENTION to women for free, and that doesnt mean that this is what a man has to do for the rest of that r/ship. as i always said, a woman can get a gift/helping hand etc, so long as a man believes she DESERVES one, and not as a down payment/rent for her to stay in that said r/ship (aka blackmail).

btw: attention goes BOTH ways and women who are also lacking in some areas need to invest in order to show attention. sadly, the majority believe that showing up to dates and opening their legs is all the attention they need to provide to us men.

thats a plane, not a bus....

being broke is not really the issue here, being UNGRATEFUL is the main problem. i suggest you focus all your energy on getting a job back and LEARN from what is happening to you now.

Ewatomi26:
So mister MBJ, define attention... What comes along with attention... What do you mean by attention

spending TIME with someone is easy, you just have to show up, but the ATTENTION is all the content (aka important valuable things that you do during this time), so i could:
[b]- go out of my way to meet and spend time with you
- walking hand in hand showing the world that you are my woman
- putting my hands around you, hug and making you feel secure while watching a movie (yeah bring your lappy to the park)
- making you laugh to break the "possible" ice between us, and help you relax around me
- open up to you and being honest about who i am, in order for you to have a full picture of me, and hopefully helping you opening up to me too
- compliment you by telling you how beautiful you are, how great i feel around you, how lucky i feel around you, even how sexy you are etc so that you may feel comfortable around me
- listening to what you like, hobbies etc so that we may do something related to it during our future dates
- listen to any worries you may have and helping you the best i can to ADVISE you right
- if you have money issues, advise you on how to get a job or how to manage your finances better
- be a gentleman by opening door etc
- give you a shoulder massage if you say you are tired after work
- engage in conversations when away from you, via text/phone calls etc, enquiring about you, your day, your friends, your plans for the week etc
- cook you one of my favourite meal, and having you around me as i prepare the dish (everyone's gotta eat, right?)[/b]

and the beautiful thing about all the above is that no "extra" money is needed, and it can all be done FOR FREE (yeah cooking that meal too)

@rman @SlickM @sauceEEP @Tallesty1
thanks but sadly, one of the problem with some of these women failed state of mind is that many of us guys are gladly accepting their blackmail as the way of dating today, while it aint.

south americans (Brazilians/Mexicans/Colombians) are the real people addicted to this telenovela NONSENSE!!!

ok, let us recapitulate

MBJ comes to this thread and says that men should NOT pay for restaurants etc and instead should spend TIME and give ATTENTION to women by going to free places and walk hand in hand.
isnt this time and attention enough or are we missing something?!

MBJ states further that what we all get out of this (in part) is some good ol' sex, which is beneficial to both men and women, therefore money is irrelevant here

KingCheezyPuff (aka KCP) replies by asking the following question: "you tellin' me you want ta have sex with a woman but you don't want to INVEST in her? That's what you do when you take the time to date her well, taking her to nice places Giving her love gifts outta yer love
we can clearly understand that TIME/ATTENTION isnt her focus here, if it was then spending free time in the park would be good enough for her. what she desires is "nice things", gifts/handouts etc. thats whats gonna make her value the guy. so in reality, time and attention is irrelevant here, if there aint bling bling attached to it

MBJ further states that many women out there FOOLISHLY believe that the minute they are dating a guy, they think they are "worthy" of their partner's money.
normally if a man spends time with a woman and give her attention, then it doesnt matter if he spends money on her or not... RIGHT sista KCP?!

wrong!!!! as KCP then wrote that she wants to know that he does consider her to be as vauable as the dollars in his wallet
...That he would spend on her.
so what we can deduct AGAIN is that, as much as time and attention is nice, unless there is MONEY, it is irrelevant. let us not fool ourselves here, MONEY is the main ingredient, and without it there will be no value to this man

so then MBJ says that she is no better than a prostitute if MONEY is the factor that will determine whether she values a guy or not.

now KCP comes back and says that Investing in the start of dating is to be done 1st by the asker, and that this person must prepare his wallet. time etc
here we can clearly understand AGAIN that the investing she is referring to is a FINANCIAL one, since she already told us that time is irrelevant without money

so MBJ says that NO money/gifts/handouts should be exchanged for sex and that "if a prostitute is a woman who will have sex for money, and you women only value (and thus sleep with) a man after he has spent money on you gals, WHAT DOES THAT MAKE OF YOU?!"
which is a fair deduction... if you need "investing" then you are an ashawo, right?!

then KCP try to lie through her teeth by saying that Whether you take her to a park or a restaurant yer working up into something (whatever it may come to), and That's simply all she meant by INVEST.
ahahahahaha what a turnaround!!!!! we all know she is LYING as she clearly stated TWICE already that time/attention without money isnt good enough, and there needs to be gifts and handouts (aka wallet activities), before a man can be valued

so MBJ point it out to her, and shows her the post where she clearly stated that "NO money NO honey"

now KCP come back and tell us all that she is a virgin of holy baby jesus

as if it is relevant to this discussion... i guess she wants to distance herself from the ashawo views she's had

to which MBJ replies that the ashawo syndrome is in the head, the body is just the tool used to degrade yourselves, and whether virgin or not, she already got the syndrome

so sista KCP comes back and "now" says that ONLY time/attention is a MUST, money isnt a must any longer... but simply that she "also" likes to be taken out, and given nice things, because it isnt her right nor a mans duty to provide for such.... but she likes dating generous men sha
BWAAAAH is that not what i have been saying all along?! that gal must have split personality, who am i talking to now?
given nice things?! WHAT FOR... if not to value a man before sex?!

ET VOILA, we finally agree that what MBJ has been saying all along is right aka: ONLY TIME AND ATTENTION IS A MUST

KingCheezyPuff:
[color=#8ab2e2]°•I didn't change anything
... I've said that from the first
You where just so caught up on not spending money
You honed in on that an overlooked/dismissed everything else.
Oh! An projected.

Yre I want his time an attention I also want to be ed taken out
An given nice things
But I do understand that it's not my right
Nir a man's job to furnish those things
But then I like dating men who are generous with me an give me those things anyway [/color]

come on, its too late to try to play "holy"...... the undercover ashawo STAIN is all over your posts!

if time/attention is part of the "supposed" investment you are talking about, then since you are there too, YOU are "investing" just as much as he does, since you are both giving each other time/attention when going on a date, not just him. what you wrote about wanting a man to INVEST/SPEND in you has absolutely nothing to do with "time/attention"... get real. if you go on a date then you are BOTH investing time/attention, regardless of who is paying. would you go on a date with a man that you dont want to spend time/attention with?!

stop digging a bigger hole for yourself, we all know what your whole aim is (aka the wallet, gifts, handouts etc)

I think I owe you all this one. I finally summoned courage to own up my misdemeanours to her. It wasn't a pretty sight having to endure her breaking down in front of me, but she agreed to walk me through the problem until we find a lasting solution. She never really bought the 'I'm not responsible' part. She kind of brushed off the paternity issues. Her only condition is that the lady won't come in, but she wasn't keen on ending my relationship with 'the child'. In her own words, she feels having to care for the child only to quit later, irrespective of the reason, is not so nice. We slated to conclude the discussion tomorrow before reaching out to the lady. I'm aware she's just trying to be strong for me, because I saw her lost in thought quite a number of times today. She's not even in our bedroom now, preferring to see a movie in the living room, something she doesn't really do because we usually see movies in the room together at this time.

I think she is still working through my trouble, and the damage I've done, but honestly, she's keen on pointing out to me that it's one of the many problems we may encounter. Thank you for your advice guys. I'm really grateful.

nice move, now you guys can fix the issue as a family and grow possibly stronger from this nightmare.
btw: no mother in her right mind will let you and wifey raise her child.... unless you pay her VERY handsomely.

KingCheezyPuff:
[color=#ff0000]
Haha
°•You acussed me wrongly
...an slapped me across the face with yer ugly label again!

AN STILL you've neglected ta address where I said :
[/color]quote author=KingCheezyPuff post=45411812][b][color=#8ab2e2]
An I never meant that any gift or dinner was payment
Nor did I say money was the only way he invested
I also said his time etc.(go back an look at yer quotes of me if you need to)
Whether you take her to a park or a restaurant yer working up into something (whatever it may come to)
That's simply all I meant by invest. [/color]

[color=#ff0000]
°•But I bet even after reading this again you STILL are of the mind I'm a Pr0stitute
...Or [/color]

i wont reply the BS above because this is EXACTLY what i have been saying all along and YOU (of all people) have been against what i wrote (now you wanna change your stand and claim holy?!).

i have been saying all along that NO money should be spent on dates, that men shouldnt spend a dime on women and that they should NOT take them to restaurant but instead in parks and free places, walking hand in hand etc because at the end we would ALL be enjoying the sex, and if women want to go to restaurants then they should at least pay for their own share of the meal etc.... so if you are saying the same thing then fair enough, but sadly you AINT. so stop contradicting yourself because there is NO "time" in a man's wallet. if "time" was indeed your focus then walking hand in hand in free places, like the park etc, would be HIGH on your agenda, and not INVESTING/SPENDING as you wrote.... unless, f course, the "time" spent at the park or free places is NOT worthy enough for you?!

KingCheezyPuff:
[color=#ff0000]Oh BrownJ I weep
......an I laugh
°•At the fact that dispite me telling you I don't have sex with men for money
favors
Gifts
outings etc.
that I don't in fact have sex at all
°•*You STILL insist I'm a Pr0stitute

°•I even explained what I meant by investment
.....An that the investment was to be done not solely with money but with a man's time
His attention etc.
YOU LOOKED OVER IT

....AN STILL you Persisted I was a Pr0titute

°•°You even left off an didn't address the above but closed the discussion
Why na?
[/color]

whether you "supposedly" never had sex, a virgin, a super virgin, or even an EXTRA CRISPY virgin, it doesnt change the fact at hand... so focus on the words:

we dont need to wait until a prostitute has SEX before she can be labelled one. as long as she is at that street corner, willing to sell her body to prospective customer, then she IS indeed a prostitute ... so whether you've had sex already or not is irrelevant, so long as that "failed" ashawo state of mind is within you

the EXACT same reasons why men cheat

KingCheezyPuff:
[color=#8ab2e2]Sigh
No sir,you assumed again
You should have asked me to explain myself

why should i ask you to explain yourself?! i understand English PERFECTLY.

You mentioned sex with a woman after you didn't even wanna spend money on her
I was asking
If it was okay in yer eyes for you ta put it inside
But not spend on it

YES, thats is what i am saying, DUH!!!!! i want to have sex with women where MONEY is irrelevant to that act, because guess what?! if "spending money on her" has any barring to whether me and that woman are gonna have sex, then she is INDEED an ashawo. and thus, you are confirming AGAIN (with the above post) my whole point about women (like yourself) expecting to be paid before having any sexual contact with a man. MONEY should NEVER be the deciding factor, if it is then that woman is no better than a prostitute (however you wanna look at it).
CASE CLOSED!!!

KingCheezyPuff:
[s][/s][color=#8ab2e2]°•You are full of assumptions an baseless accusations
I never said sex wasn't mutually beneficial or enjoyed by both
Nor did I say the dates or gifts where payment fer sex
°•Nether do I have sex with a man only after he's spent on me
I won't/haven't had sex with 1at all
Not that I have anything to prove to you
I just want ta lay it all out here.
But thank you sir for tagging me a money hungry wh0re.
°First time in my young life I've been called that
I guess it was bound ta happen some time
I'm so happy I experience it taday
You dismissed me
an projected what you think onto me
an called me a dirty name based of what you thought you knew
Is there anymore sir
[/color]

BWAAAAAHHHH see a confused woman trying her tricks on MBJ (out of all people on NL)
ok, let me school you for a minute:
when i wrote that sex was beneficial to both men and women, and that NO MONEY nor gifts etc should be handed out, YOU replied by saying:"

KingCheezyPuff:
[color=#a74ac7]you tellin' me you want ta have sex with a woman but you don't want to INVEST in her That's what you do when you take the time to date her well, taking her to nice places Giving her love gifts outta yer love[/color.

further saying....

But I want to know that he does consider me to be as vauable as the dollars in his wallet ...That he would spend on me.

so we can clearly understand from the above that YOU can only have sex with a man who has "invested" in you, and who has spent a great deal of money on you (unless there is something else than MONEY in that wallet you are so focussed on?). that, sista, is A) the definition of being an undercover prostitute and B) certainly aint beneficial to the both of you, if the guy has to pay BEFORE he can enjoy the sex. the above statement clearly show that you use SEX as a tool to get what you desire from men, and NOT as a mutual beneficial act.

these aint assumptions or baseless accusations, these are FACTS taken from what you have written in this thread.

IAmshandy:
your advice was well understood but you went too far by insulting the poster which ism't any form of respect, it will be wise not to comment if you have none than to insult someone..

you are entitled to your opinion, but sadly i have never sugarcoated anything on NL, and i aint about to start now..... as we should certainly call a spade A SPADE. these are my views on the issue at hand.

KingCheezyPuff:
[color=#a74AC7]°• I quoted you with more because you refused ta take my goodbye
But wanted ta argue yer case
an just as I thought
talking with you further was a waste of time because you didn't/won't hear me

I'm upset I gave you the time I did an I'll waste no more.
......°•°Goodbye.[/color]

how can i take anything you wrote as a goodbye when you still quoting me while writing the above nonsense?! read again the gibberish you wrote, and focus on the simple and very REAL answers i gave you.... then go look at yourself in the mirror, and ask this simple question:
if a prostitute is a woman who will have sex for money, and I only value (and thus sleep with) a man after he has spent money on me, WHAT DOES THAT MAKE ME?!

here is a clue: since all you deluded women think that sex is a gift from you to us men (and not a mutual beneficial act), then that is the reason why so many men are "unwillingly" paying for these dates/gifts/handouts, as a DOWN PAYMENT for the sex. yet you wanna turn around and call yourselves "priceless"?! bwaaaah!

all you hypocrite women should stop coming to NL writing rubbish trying to act smart, and instead should start being honest with your damn selves.... when did ANY of you lot A) made the bold move to invite a guy on a 1st date, and B) gladly paid for that said date?!?!

some are talking on this thread as if it aint us (men) you try your tricks on. highly laughable!

KingCheezyPuff:
[b][color=#A74AC7]°•If you spoke to me on the street an we got talking
an you decided there after you wanted ta see me again an we went out to eat
You should pay.You asked me out.

lol is that the trick you women use to defraud men?! if i met you in the street, and was interested, i would ask to see you again, YES, but i certainly wouldnt believe you deserve anything from me.... and i would instead invite you to a park or something free like that, to get to know you (since it is MY choice, lol)... but we all know that deluded women would "demand" to go to some eatery, or biatch about how hungry they are, lol
its only clueless deluded women that believe that money must be spent ON THEM in order to get to know them.

If I asked you out, I should pay.The rule is if you invite someone out,you pay.Get it

we already know that you women would never invite a man out. and... thats where you trick these men, because since you never invite men, therefore men have to do ALL the work, thus we are on the receiving end to pay for everything (as if you women dont want to get to know these men)

You got some gender war yer fighting an I'm not interested in doing battle with you.

my war is with COMMON SENSE, and has nothing to do with gender. if you dont know what a prostitute is then ask Google.

Investing in the start of dating is to be done 1st by the asker
In the case of the op's question it is the man
So yes,he must prepare his wallet
Time etc.

ARRANT NONSENSE!!!! in Africa, men MUST ask women out, thats the way it is done because they are all full of shakara and pretending. if men didnt ask women out then there would be NO DATING IN AFRICA. so pls stop writing rubbish about dating.
furthermore, there is NO relation between dating and spending money. the problem here is that you women dont want to ask men on a date but then DEMAND to be taken to eatery etc, yet dont want to pay, wtf?! there should be absolutely NO investing until BOTH decide that they want to get together (aka a man believing that this woman is WORTHY). its only donkeys that pay for deluded and possibly WORTHLESS women, who desire money to be spent on them before they can value a man.

An I notice you didn't quote the part where I told you "Good early morning to you an Goodbye"

then stop quoting me and i wont have to point out the wholes in your money hungry desperate and cheap views about dating.