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[quote author=Tudór link=topic=314525.msg4417932#msg4417932 date=1251197255][s]Quit crying abeg.
Everytime people ask questions or expose the ignorance, lies, barbarism, atrocities, hypocrisy and wickedness of islam you people start moaning. . . . Since when has it become a crime to speak the truth?
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What the hell does "people of the book" mean anyway? [/quote]Christians and Jews who were given gospels, i.e. OT and NT.

Good.

akigbemaru:
Islam "the religion of peace destruction. LMAO.

@Poster,
You made a mistake, you should have written in Arabic if you really want to pass your Isman- bad asses to grab your point, because I knew you hate anything Western which we love with passions. .

Are your words related to this OP? Wonder o!

Any way, let me ask you a question on the part (in bold) I get: how did you know?

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=312905.msg4401989#msg4401989 date=1250957038]Does that condone declaring for the death of a human being?
You people are such savage barabarians. . . .gosh!

The blasphemous movie da vinci code came out and christians didn't call for the death of the director, madonna made a mockery of the crucifiction of jesus during her concerts severally, no one made an attempt or threatened her life. . . . . Tell me, why are muslims so irked by salman rushdie that they had to threaten his life if he's not speaking the truth.[/quote]Maybe Brown or Madonna had talked true and maybe not. And Christianity and Islam have different code and conduct, for they are two different things. Thus can't function in the same way and manner.

BTW, let me repeat what's being discussed here (for I realized you are so myopic, you are yet to read anything clearly): there are NO Satanic Verses. Thats why even the title of the thread reads Alleged Satanic Verses.

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[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=312905.msg4401950#msg4401950 date=1250956637]'Mo'? I don laugh tire. Really interesting thread.Muhsin and Nezan make good reading. Popped in cos I thought it meant Rushdie's book,but I've learned something new. I'll def be checking out this Al-tabari's writing. Evolutionary psychology might bear him out. It makes it easy to see which holy writings are genuine,and which patent fabrications. About time I read the Quran in full too.[/quote]Jarir Al-Tabari is a renowned historian. Its just unfortunate that he reported that, although he openly distance himself from any falsity, fabrication or inauthenticity of the saying and refer them to his source. I mean to say he'd faithfully transmitted whatever he received.

And Allah, the Exalted, knows best.

@Abuzola,

I personally fathomed something from your posts on this thread. You tacitly turn-down that invite because of no concrete reason but. . . Get off that paranoiac feeling, bros. Nothing go chop u there.

Am just kidding. Don't take my words so serious.

Wish you brothers and sisters all the best. And big kudos to Jarus.

Ramadhan Kareem!

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=312905.msg4401805#msg4401805 date=1250954952]Illiteracy reigns supreme in the muslim world. . . .google is your friend!

Pls answer the question and stop crying all over the place.[/quote]But I didn't know google can function like human!

Where is Nezan? You've been debating with google. LOL

BTW, let me re-iterate it once again: no religion on this earth condone blasphemy. Period!

Abuzola:
@muhsin. Nasan burhn wannan dan shaidanin, amma inayi ina kula.  Shin akwai wani abinda zaka fada min wanda ban sani ba ? Ramadan kareem

Goya masa baya na nufin yarda da abun da yake fada. Kuma ka tuna Isa annabin Allah ne.

Karin bayani: don wasu--Kiristoci, bai kamata ka wuce gona da iri be.

Allah ya ganar damu, amin. Nagode.

Abuzola:
Bravo, good and intelligent compose. 2 gbaski

Please I wanna exclusively talk to Abuzola. Forgive my using other language than English. Thanks


Kiyaye

Ka rage shi harkar sa.

In kunne ya ji. . .

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=312905.msg4400804#msg4400804 date=1250944090]Is islam synonimous with illiteracy?. . . .yes it is and you are a testimony. . . .statistics even prove it.

I don't care if you declare a fatwa or cry i'll keep asking the question!

Why was there a threat on salman rushdies life if he was lying?
Stop shamefully evading this simple question. . . .why is it so painful for thee? [/quote]Who is illiterate? Funny, indeed.

What statistics? You atheists'? No wonder.

Better quit advertising your illiteracy while foolishly referring it to someone.

Whoever kills against the law (Islamic) is to be killed as well.

To you.

Phemour:
*Subscribing*

Fnks Muhsin and others

*Welcome*

LOL Mukina

Here is another info I got to clear more airs regarding this sect.

Reprint from Op-Ed section of Barutiwa Newspaper (ISSN 1080-997x) on March 22, 1996.

It is our earnest desire to make it clear to our subscribers and the media (who empathize with the cause of Barutiwa championing the voice of young Black people) that this publication does not support Louis Farrakhan in any sense. There are three primary reasons why we are not charmed by his usual sensations.

FIRST: As ardent Muslims, we cannot promote a demagogue who has intentionally attempted to tarnish the veracity of the Islamic civilization and way of life by denouncing the sheer monotheism we profess in God (or Allah in the Arabic language). In Farrakhan's newspaper THE FINAL CALL he states: "We believe that Allah (God) appeared in the Person of Master W. Fard Muhammad, July, 1930; the long-awaited "MESSIAH" of the Christians and the "Mahdi" of the Muslims." This belief of Farrakhan and his followers is in direct conflict with the Qur'an (our Holy Book). In Islam, we do not believe that God will manifest Himself in the person of any man or woman. That is why God sent the Prophets and Messengers to instruct the people onto the right path. Since it is unbefitting of the Creator to lower himself to the station of the created. And if He would do such a thing, as appearing in the person of a man, He know that people would worship the person in lieu of Himself, The Creator of all. Thus, again, we have the Prophets and the Messengers sent by The Creator, instead of appearing in the person of a man, to call the people to the worship of Him, alone. In one of the final chapters of our noble Qur'an, God has stated: "Say: God is one. God is self-subsisting. He begets not; nor is He begotten. And there is none compared to Him." Hence, we cannot accept Farrakhan because he is promoting lies about the essential building blocks of our beloved way of life, ISLAM.

SECOND: As ardent Muslims, we cannot empathize with Farrakhan because he has challenged the rank of the greatest man on earth, The Prophet Muhammad (570 A.D. - 632 A.D.) the founder of our beloved religion, ISLAM, more than 1400 years ago. Louis Farrakhan claims to be a prophet. In Islam we believe that the founder of our religion, theology, civilization and way of life, The Prophet Muhammad, is the final prophet to mankind. Any Muslim who defy this second pillar of faith cease to be among us. The Prophet Muhammad said in his last speech before his death in 632 A.D. in Mecca, Saudi Arabia: "O People, No Prophet or Messenger will come after me and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind two things, the Qur'an and my example, if you follow these you will never go astray."

THIRD: As African Americans loyal to our race, our independence movement, and being well read, well traveled as we are, there is evidence that certain race up-lift organizations among our people are bent on exploiting and manipulating us for selfish interest and the interest of our oppressors. There is evidence that the Nation of Islam is one of these organizations, along with the NAACP and others. We cannot forget how the Nation of Islam was behind the assassination of Malcolm X (1965). Nor can we forget the NAACP was behind the deportation of our hero Marcus Garvey (1927) and the political alienation of Martin Luther King, Jr. (1968).

The publication BARUTIWA is free of impurities. It is completely controlled and financed by myself, the Founder & Editor-in-Chief, and can sincerely guarantee the superiority of our readers voice on any issue or topic as long as the expressions are not hostile to the 3 positions I have enumerated above. If you have any comments concerning this news release write editorialstaff@barutiwadaily.com.

Editor's Note: We have omitted the original contact info because it is no longer valid. We have provided the current email address of the author, which has been verified to be authentic.


http://www.bmkdispatch.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=103&p=224#p224

Funny.

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=312905.msg4400524#msg4400524 date=1250940816]S pare me the undiluted crap abeg!
When i asked the question did i use any derogatory term?
It was simple and straight forward, all you could do was run with your tail in between your legs. . .ha ha

It's crystal clear you're pained and uncomfortable with the question even though you try to cover up with your self-righteous rant. . . .keep crying and you could declare a fatuwa on me. . . .i honestly don't care! [/quote]If you really don't why did you care to read and reply to the threads.

Don't fool yourself, dude.

Wa'alaik Salam,

Ameen to your prayers.

Are these women raped? And thus wanted to get off the predicament of having unwanted pregnancies? I wonder o!

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=312905.msg4400328#msg4400328 date=1250938229]You muslims never cease to amaze me with your hypocrisy and gross ignorance. . . . .if salman rushdie was lying then why bother to place a fatuwa on him. It only shows he's speaking truth and it pains you islamists like hell just as it pains you that i'm asking this question. . . .ha ha ha ha[/quote]Your question doesn't pain me in any way.

I only wanna discuss issues in civil, matured and rational manner, i.e. without name calling, using swearing words, derogatory terms and the likes.

And I could continue with it if you would heed to that.

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Assalamu alaikum,


[b]Narrated 'Urwa:

That he was informed by 'Aisha, "Allah's Apostle went out in the middle of the night and prayed in the mosque and some men prayed behind him. In the morning, the people spoke about it and then a large number of them gathered and prayed behind him (on the second night). In the next morning the people again talked about it and on the third night the mosque was full with a large number of people. Allah's Apostle came out and the people prayed behind him. On the fourth night the Mosque was overwhelmed with people and could not accommodate them, but the Prophet came out (only) for the morning prayer. When the morning prayer was finished he recited Tashah-hud and (addressing the people) said, "Amma ba'du, your presence was not hidden from me but I was afraid lest the night prayer (Qiyam) should be enjoined on you and you might not be able to carry it on." So, Allah's Apostle died and the situation remained like that (i.e. people prayed individually). "

Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 32 :: Hadith 229[/b]

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=312905.msg4396258#msg4396258 date=1250869099]You've not answered anything.
If someone says mohammed is a basta*d why should it bother you unless he's one. . . .[/quote]Am afraid but I can't engage you in such a discussion. Sorry if that sounds bad to you.

Yet I'll correct something in there (your reply): I didn't say he says Muhammad (SAW) was a bastard, he rather says Prophet Abraham was one. Re-read what I've posted.

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It's been nice discussing with you, Nezan.

Am signing off for the day.

Will, probably, continue tomorrow; depend upon how the discussion goes on.

May Allah, the Exalted, guide us to the right path. And make you see the light of Islam.

NB:

Please fellow niralanders, don't pollute the thread. If you are interested in it and have something to say, say; if you don't have please I beg not to ever write a word. Thanks

fellis:
Salamualaikum all.
Someone told me that some people in Nigeria have already started fasting.
(~*who are they?* ~)
I wonder where the confusion came in from for them.

Can't believe it.

Who are they; where are they?

Nezan:
So that was why allah abrogate the satanic verses? because he forgot he has three daughters?

May God, the Almighty, upgrade your capability of understanding.

But where was that mentioned there? Pls ppl judge us!

Nezan:
You have been rude before, so dont worry, continue been rude,,,,it is your game

To be very fair to the lad; he's only rude when he's attacked. And I always tell you to behave your age, am sure he won't do otherwise.

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On serious note, Nezan: can you disclose your age to me?

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Nezan:
Typical muslim, advising him to harden his heart abi?

What are you saying?

I'm advising him not to repeat what has had just been said. We always wanna progress.

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=312905.msg4396045#msg4396045 date=1250867525]If there were no 'satanic verses' why was a fatwa declared on salman Rushdie by some bunch of murderous buffoons? [/quote]Have answered this before.

Follow the discussion.

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