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You won't, I realize, huh? Lets go on:

Read what At-Tabari says:

Let him who examines this book of mine know that I have relied, as regards everything I mention therein which I stipulate to be described by me, solely upon what has been transmitted to me by way of reports which I cite therein and traditions which I ascribe to their narrators, to the exclusion of what may be apprehended by rational argument or deduced by the human mind, except in very few cases. This is because knowledge of the reports of men of the past and of contemporaneous views of men of the present do not reach the one who has not witnessed them nor lived in their times except through the accounts of reporters and the transmission of transmitters, to the exclusion of rational deduction and mental inference. Hence, if I mention in this book a report about some men of the past, which the reader of listener finds objectionable or worthy of censure because he can see no aspect of truth nor any factual substance therein, let him know that this is not to be attributed to us but to those who transmitted it to us and we have merely passed this on as it has been passed on to us.

Abu Ja`far Muhammad bin Jarir al-Tabari, Tarikh al-Tabari: Tarikh al-Umam wal-Muluk, 1997, Volume I, Dar al-Kutub al-'Ilmiyyah, Beirut (Lebanon), p 13.

This is one. Thus can we say all what he transmitted is genuine and true?

Answer me for I am going in a few minutes. Thanks

Hmm *Nodding head*. I get you.

tarano:
Islamic or no islamic banking if Nigerians are going to be the managers and employees , anything can happen,
I have said it again and again it is not the system that is wrong but the people that do not exhibit the right character,

'Yar Adua should employ a foreign governor for CBN?

Ogaga4wonder.

Tieth is never mentioned in Islam.

He can only know of that stuff if he is a former Christian.

Abuzola is right. Get the logic, Nezan?

NLders and Boko Haram saga.

Will make a market @ Nollywood.

LOL

No. The same God that sent Jesus, on whom be peace, revealed it to him.

@Ben20001,

Read 3 replies made before yours. The whole story is purely a lie. Nothing genuine.

You remain an enigmatic figure to me, Ogaga.

I still can't say much about your true faith.

Neither Christian nor athiest, right? Islam already aside, huh?

Can you a little bit elaborate on that?

Thanks

Nezan:
whether hadiths or history, were their not islamic writers?

They are. Not even were.

Now, accept one thing, i.e. you fail to produce a single hadeeth as you claimed there was.

Do it.

Let me cut you off; I mean hadeeth, and not history (book)! These are two different things. Understand?

Any way, you can go on. Will refute it, inshaAllah, now.

And remember to provide the link where you copy these words from.

I, beside, wish noetic2 all the best regarding religion. InshaAllah he'll. . .ameen!

Nezan:
Why do you want to be repeatitive? go through the opening arguments and see, as you rightly acknowledged in your post quoted above . . . . . . duh . . . .

Did I mention hadeeth, the word hadeeth there?

I only say these scholars reported it; and so you too say severally.

Nezan:
@muhsin, here is a summary of the chain of events . . . . . . . . . . . .

1. Islamic writers al-Tabari and ibn-Sa'd wrote about satanic verses in their [size=15pt]hadeeths[/size].

2. muslims later discredit al-Tabari and ibn-Sa'd's hadeeths for recording the saga of the satanic verses.

3. many years after, an islamic writer produces a fictional novel with the title 'satanic verses'.

4. a muslim supreme ruler in Iran declares a fatwa for revisiting the satanic verses saga and ordered copies of the book to be burnt.

5. islamic countries rose against the author and the fatwa is validated in all islamic countries and copies of the book burnt in all islamic countries and the author seeks and get assylum in a foreign non-islamic country.

Conclusion: muslims are ashamed of the satanic verses saga and want it to be covered up. Shikena!

And I plainly challenge you to show us the hadeeth. Period.

The same is mentioned in the guarded Qur'an.

You finished? Good.

First of all, who told you At-Tabari and Ibn Sa'ad reportted the groundless story as hadeeth?

This claim alone render your whole argument regarding the "Satanic" verses invalid!

Any way, educate me and other Muslims on this board and give us the hadeeth?

Wallahi I stand to recant/concede if you do that--adding the hadeeth is authentic.

Awaiting your reply,

Muhsin

qblaze:
No amount of bullshit from Xavier, PapaBrowne and other friends of those 5 banks will change anything. Sanusi has done the right thing.

Don't take it that much.

Lets see his if. . .

Huh?

Though I too think he's right.

Assalamu alaikum,
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Narrated Anas ibn Malik:

The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to break his fast before praying with some fresh dates; but if there were no fresh dates, he had a few dry dates, and if there were no dry dates, he took some mouthfuls of water.


Dawud :: Book 13 : Hadith 2349[/center]

It means categorically going off-topic.

Nezan:
Didnt you see the statistics $osisi posted on the regular visitors to porn sites?

And who are the "actors", "actresses", directors, and other crew of these films?

[quote author=Xavier. link=topic=318315.msg4468557#msg4468557 date=1251898334]Resign?

So what's gonna happen to all the wrong deeds he's done (that's if he's fundamentally wrong)? Hope he is gonna undo them i.e redeeem the image of the banks and CEOs[/quote]He would rather be summoned to court, I think. Right?

ayinba1:
@Jarus,

Very commendable effort. Please, please, please, create a mailing list for us muslim nairalanders and let us share the pics and or video. I'd love to put a face to the wonderful contributors.

Thanks
ayinba@yahoo.com

Seconded!

Jarus, where are you?

Wa'alaiku Salam,

The man is more than a genius, if I may call him.

I was sooo stunned by his intelligence. What a man!

I watched his CDs on Why West Is Coming To Islam some days ago.

He's an ayah on this earth, for he's doing things beyond common sense as he quotes Ahadeeth numbers; Qur'anic, and Biblical chapters and verses accurately off head.

Ineffable!

It's a long discourse. Will, inshaAllah, start a fresh thread on that soon.

Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) Sanusi Lamido Sanusi said yesterday that he will resign from office if his decision to remove the Managing as well as Executive Directors of five big banks turns out to be wrong.

He said this in Abuja in response to questions from newsmen at a press briefing soon after a meeting of the Monetary Policy Committee (MPC). He said at the meeting that CBN has approved in principle the establishment of an “Asset Purchase Facility Fund” for effective liquidity injection and credit easing targeted at specific areas of the economy.

CBN had sacked the Chief Executive Officers of Intercontinental Bank Plc, Oceanic Bank International Plc, Afribank Plc, Union Bank of Nigeria Plc and FinBank Plc on August 14 for leading their banks to award bad loans to the tune of N780 billion. CBN also injected N420 billion into the banks, while the affected CEOs have been charged to court for contravening several banking laws.

Asked if he will resign if his decision to remove the CEOs turns out to be wrong, Sanusi said, “Yes. But I have no doubt in my mind that the decisions we have taken are decisions that were taken based on an objective analysis of the facts.” He said the banking examinations that led to the removal of the bank chiefs were done jointly by CBN and the Nigeria Deposit Insurance Corporation (NDIC).

He said, “Each bank had ten examiners - five from CBN and five from NDIC. After the report came, they were looked at by the Director of Banking Supervision of the CBN and the Director of Banking Examination of the NDIC.

“The banks and their representatives had the opportunity to discuss with these Directors some of those findings. There were exit interviews in which the EXCOs were told what the findings were. The report came to a Deputy Governor of CBN, Mr. Lemo, who did a further quality check. It was after that that the reports were presented to the Governor of the CBN and the Managing Director of the NDIC.

“The committee of Governor of CBN and the EXCO of the NDIC reviewed these reports and agreed that these banks were in a dire situation before the Governor made recommendations to the Board of Governors of the Central Bank.

“We are all human beings; are we above making mistakes? No! If there was a mistake, if there were fundamental errors, as Governor of Central Bank I will take personal responsibility and if I have to resign, I will resign.

“But I have no doubt in my mind that if I looked at a bank and I see that it is heading towards failure, I have the responsibility of the Nigerian people to take whatever action I consider to be appropriate.”

He said the fear of making mistakes is what stopped many people from acting, and in not acting, “you will end up in a more serious situation.”

Sanusi also said, “Were there mistakes in this process? I am sure there will be one or two mistakes, there will be one or two errors and people have already raised one or two minor typographical errors to discredit the entire process.

“There will be mistakes, there will be human errors. Fundamentally, I think the decisions we have taken were the correct decisions for Nigeria and the Nigerian financial system and for the country in general.”

He said of the remaining fourteen banks in the country, eleven have been audited and that if any of them were found in the same situation as the troubled five banks, more money will be created to give them liquidity support. He said the N420 billion injected into the affected banks were convertible loans and liquidity support and not a bail-out.

“We are committed to protecting deposits and creditors. Which means if we find another bank in a great situation and we believe that if we allowed it to continue in this stage it will fail, we will put in whatever financial support the bank requires to make sure that deposits are not put at risk”, he said.

“Our primary focus is stability and confidence in the system. We will pursue those who we feel are responsible for placing that institution in that state. The question is if we find any bank in that situation and if we find another bank in that situation, we will deal with it in that manner. Whether a bank is likely to be in that situation I have said nothing”, he further said. He said CBN does not require any appropriation from the National Assembly to create money to inject into the economy.

The Governor said the focus of CBN is not to sell the five banks. He said he went to the United Kingdom to tell the good news about Nigerian banks. “We did not go to UK to sell banks. All we have been saying is for core investors to invest in the banks. Core investors could be foreign or local. There is no law that stops foreign banks from owning Nigerian banks. We will not preclude foreign banks from owning Nigerian banks”, he said. He also said reforms going on in CBN are not an indictment on his predecessor Professor Chukwuma Soludo.

The Monetary Policy Committee yesterday left the MPR unchanged at 6 percent per annum and also maintained the interest rate corridor at +/- 2 per cent around the MPR.

http://www.news.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5454:sanusi-i-will-resign-if&catid=46:lead-stories&Itemid=140

Let her name it whatsoever, brothers. That makes neither sense nor difference.

Please just ignore her, for she deserves to be simply ignored. Thanks

True.

Lets wait. . .

P:S

You brothers are quite surprising. I don't care to, at all, engage athiest in any discussion. They are original mad folks clearly pointed out our Scriptures. Please spare your time and do something else fruitful. Thanks

Why can't we be told of that agenda?