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God is indeed kind, another smaller organisation has contacted me just now per email . They are willing to help but they say they are too small to fund the whole project but could do something and also help. I am overwelmed!! I pray God it works out. |
A ray of light ! I got a reply from an NGO in Germany. This NGO authentic. They need to know. Name of the child Please complete name like on the birth certificate. ( if you can send me a copy) When the child was born. Where exactly it is staying The hospitals that have been handling the child. Please if you have nr. from Doctors please send me Is there already a hospital that would treat the child and what or how high are the cost. Please send me an email . It is better you make a short appeal to the organization it is called: BILD Hilft e.V. -ein Herz für Kinder. Please add pictures of yourself and your daughter. The medical reports. Send me as much as you can. So I can forward it to them this weekend If you can get a doctor to make a fast right up letting them know there is no time. Do you have a newspaper article or any other information? It is now up to you to send me those documents. If they agree to take care of the treatment in Germany, and provided of course you opt for a hospital nearer to where I live. I I promise you that I will take care of your accomodation, feeding and other needs as long as you need to remain in Germany. Please I dont want my reputation compromised. Make sure it is all genuine. Email me asap |
ayolight:I don't know eurer. I am waiting for then to contact me. But I think we better wait till you have another result. Before contacting others. Pity because I contacted the mist popular ones. Please just try in future to really make sure no loopholes because people are very skeptical We have to continue with combined effort . |
seunkeji5:I guesses as much but it would be difficult for any NGO to work with that. |
I will remember you in my prayers. You have one child . You have known pregnancy. That is already a great blessing. God will do it again!! |
Very difficult question to answer with right or wrong? I know many homes that have been broken that way and at the end of the day it is the children that are the victims. One has to be very careful not to be involved in the break of a home. Is that not more important than keeping the truth away from a friend? I personally would not tell but I would be disapointed with myself. However I would speak to the man at the first oppotunity . but that would not stop him. |
I got you email and had already sent the medical report to three NGO that can help when I realsiesd that the medical report is for a male child and the child is female!! This is not good enough.Nigeria is already known for fraud. Anyone seein this would thionk it is all fake. I just dont know how to correct that mistake. |
It rarely comes to that if you keep your distance. It is impprtant to say a clear no at the very first signal . By a clear no I mean a very obvious no. If need be with a slap. |
Angels still live on earth. Those Men are beasts. She was just a child |
naijababe:This is what I call an intelligent emancipated woman. I couldn't have said it better |
The hard truth is that you are lying and cheating on both men. Do you know what it means for a man to ask your hand in marriage? That is a very honourable thing to do. Do you know how much love, time and money he has invested? Then the second man you are talking to. You are lying to him by not telling him you are planning a marriage. From the look of things you have already gotten intimate with him. What goes around comes around. Even when you get married as a man or woman there would always be wonderful people left in the. World but decent married people stay off. |
lahit14:Sorry I dont mean to offend you but I had to read your write- up several times to even understand what you were trying to make out. If the like of you are fishes, I can only say, Thank God !! Thank the Lord ! that I am giving birth to my frogs and they don't get corrupted by "spyn" on the likes of you. ![]() |
Kalvan:I is only people that cant argue with facts that reduce themselves to abuses. So I wonder who is the deluded simpleton here. Please go and prepare yourself and come up with arguments. Some people think they are brave and cool when they come under a nick and rain abuses on others. It is pathetic. EfemenaXY and some others brought up some valid and interesting arguments, I decided to take an opposing opinion. It was a great argument even if it got emotional but allot of varying opinions were raised and I think anyone reading them would have picked one or two thinks from it. Go back and read what you wrote and do some hard thinking ![]() |
My gosh what is this about baring and finding means of telling him That child is her greatest treasure A gift from God She should be so proud to speak of her child. If he does not like it he should take to his heals. No point marrying a man that can it be a father to the child |
olu4life:Yes you are right. Depend allot on the environment you live. Perhaps in hotter regions you might need to be more particular about sterilising I mean I also don't like people carry my babies or touch their hand. You probably spread bacteria faster that way than with a clean bottle that was not sterilized |
EfemenaXY:Damn. Hell indeed hath no fury like a woman scorned You have exposed yourself for what you are From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh You really have absolutely no respect or regard for Nigerians but still floating on here Please I hope one kind Nl male can give you what you need You are like the wolf that didn't get the grapes and declared them for soar. Did you read what you wrote about this woman and her poor kids. I may be a joker but you are stark raving.. please go get a life on your tiny island and stop crawling around here trying to make your self feel better by abusing a whole nation It is absurd. If I recognised just how damaged you are.i wouldn't have bothered reply you. What is so special about Being British .Do you know just how many people on NL have a britisch passport or that of any other European country or the states. Notice something . No one is barking here. Please folks you need to pad on me. You know my claws never come out but this luni brings out the beast in me. I am not going to sit back and let her insult my nation proudly nigerian!!! |
What's special about taking DOUBLE DOSES of a fertility drug for EIGHT TIMES longer than necessary? Does that sound normal to you?Nothing special about it. Many women that have access to medication and are desperate would do the same thing. It sounds normal to me. Women go to great lengths to have a child . That`s why you have surrogate mothers and so many other options. Now are you also condemning the desperate act of a sad woman wanting to get pregnant. You just are not being fair to this woman. Sorry, did you just say people buy things like houses they can't pay for? What's your definition of the word "buy"?? As per making use of services they can't pay for, why are you justifying what obviously very wrong? So you think it's okay to make use of services you can't afford, tell me, would such service be in existence if it isn't being paid for in the first place? Or how do you think the system operates? On charity??It`s not okay but it`s not criminal. So how many of those people have their names and pictures published? Why shouldn't I get worked up by this case?? Knowing fully well that my taxes go to fund fraudulent, scamming, health tourists like her who take advantage of an "understanding" system, thinking in their usual foolhardy way that they're smart? And yes, we have every right to comment, name, and shame ingrates like her. Infact, she deserves to be thrown in jail. If you can't pay, then don't request for it in the first place!Obviously you are in the minority with this view. If the British Government shared this opinion she would have been in jail. As I explained earlier your tax account is still probably in minus. You know fully well that I wouldn't give a monkey's if she'd delivered her kids in Nigeria. Why should I? Part of my wages don't go into the Nigerian system. They go towards funding and supporting the UK health services amongst others. Actually, come to think of it, why didn't she have them in Nigeria, then try to scam her way out of paying her hospital bills.[/quote]NO comment it is beginning to sound like a cracked record ![]() Really? So it's now the west that voted your president and his croonies in power? The west is the one ripping your people and diverting the much needed money for building basic infrastructure to help your masses, into foreign accounts? Your past leaders haven't been stealing your much needed national funds in broad daylight and stashing their loot into foreign accounts? Please remind me of the Ibori case again - please.and your Government has been aiding and abating that!! And because a woman is owing a debt you are now the self appointed ambassador. If your country clammoured so much for independence, why on earth would they be hustling to be citizens of their colonial masters? I thought the very essence of acquiring independence is to have that freedom to run your country the way you want? You know what, you've only just reinforced the concept that your people are unable to think independently for themselves and never truly got rid of that slave mentality you mention. Why would a dog go back to its vomit?You need to disclose to me your nationality and your interest in Nigeria before we continue on this line. The issue of giving passport are all regulated by international laws and policies and not by what you think. How insolent for you to speak of clamouring for independence. A people held captive want to be free. Is that not the most natural thing. You have real issues. It may be vomit but certainly not ours. I really wished you worked over here and tried to blatently cheat the system. You deserve to be in jail - now that'll be real justice. But then again, it's going to be the British taxpayer paying for your stay in prison. Oh the irony!I have no intention of beating the system but of suing it. Maybe I just might think of coming to take up a job there and doing just that. Listen lady. We look out for our. Your country should look out for her own people, instead of scamming their way to someone else's land that's already been cleaned up. Why not clean up your mess?Now isn't this the joke of the year!! You have one of the most lousy social systems, most lousy health systems, most lousy educational systems!! You don`t look after nobody. Foreigners are more charitable in Britain that you guys are. ( come I hope it`s not just because you have that little book you claim to be..) You are the slave - going on with your misplaced entitlement theory, expecting hardworking folks to fund miscreants breeding like rabbits. She should have had her kids in Nigeria. The Nigerian hospitals all well versed on people of her ilk and know how to deal with them appropriately.Being a slave is better than being a free born with the mentality of a slave. I think in future all Nigerians need to apply to you for instructions on where to give birth. You don't live in the UK and yet you rant about a system you don't know Jack about? You're a joke!Kasper!! I don`t need to know there, thats the advantage of being informed. I hope you also know a bit more about the world than that tiny Island you live on. No tell me, what do Nigerian contribute to the NHS? I presume the sort of Nigerians you're referring to are spongers. Health tourists, whose sole purpose in life is to go about with a misplaced entitlement mentality. Free loaders out to drain the system. Yes?Okay, i leave this to be commented on by Nigerians who live there. Ridiculous. |
Askseek:I admit that she is owing money and when you owe it is not about wrong or right but can you pay or not. Any other thing being involved in this case is being emotional and mixing beans with oranges. |
Askseek:Let me and we you briefly because I really am between two doors. Young lady do you expect me to splash my documents here. Documents I obtained 27 years ago!!!! Asking for much aren't you .. I never mentioned I was a lawyer on this thread. So if someone has been stung to look it up...how do react. ?Besides this is common sence and general knowledge. THIS is not an issue of right or wrong . This is a case of owing or not. If the hospital has a claim let them consult their lawyers. They can obtain a judgment that can be enforced in Nigeria . Owing is not a criminal offence. The court looks at what they can obtain from you and how you can pay Does she have a car worth 17000 pounds! So what. It is not a luxury when you have five kids to have a roadworthy car. She needs at least a seven seater. Can you buy a new car at that amount? No court in Europe would demand the car has to be auctioned Is she paying 8 000 school fees. This is not a luxury. Parents are still free to determine what school their kids go to. For five kid's. ..that is not a luxury for a court in UK. Do you realise that this poor woman has been made a victim by politicians. But since you live in the US. It's okay. A black man life is not worth that lf a lion. I would be unfair to myself and others if I do not write the truth. |
EfemenaXY:I need to reply you later on your other posts. What you pay as taxes is more on the average. If you are single it isn't the world. How much of taxpayers money have you consumed since birth and how much have you paid into the system. Right now your account is on a big minus. You have not returned what you consumed so no one is living on your taxes. You have not yet fulfilled the generation contract of paying back the taxes paid by the older generation who need to be funded on their old age. Please give us a break. !!!! |
I think that too much hygene has negative effects the baby does not develop strong immunity and is always sick, gets easily infected. After my first child I grew wise. No more sterilising and frantic hygene. I didn`t even sterilise. Only boiled out the bottles once a week. |
acerr:See what men are degenerating to. The one is doing it. The other is making it a topic of discussion. |
tearoses:It all amounts to the same thing. There is a budget for everything and I don`t think that 100% of taxes paid are used for medi care. There still would be a break down. |
tearoses:I don`t need to write all my arguments here. I am not defending her case. Besides I was under the mistaken assumption that we all are sensitive to the fundamental human rights. What I have been trying to make clear all along is that this is a simple civil case. It is not a state of the nation issue and not a political issue. Some evil people with racist intention are using it to attack blacks. Ironically it is the Nigerians in Britain that are going to suffer the impacts of this racism. Please don`t be fooled. Go and take a look at all the unpaid debts that hospital has and you might start to think differently. Why haven't they announced that. With the influx of refugees in Europe today many hospitals are having similar issues. Some times the refugees arrive and before they are properly registered need to be treated. One small community hospital in Europe had over 200 000 Euro debts. That is more than the income of the whole community in the month. There are thousand of such cases where people come for treatment to Europe. The cost far outshoots the estimate and they can`t afford to pay. I wonder why her case is being carried up. But I can tell you why.. some sick people are mad that we are multiplying and striving. I don`t ever take a decision by looking at black and white. There are many shades in-between. And if I am worked up about this topic forgive me. The fight against racism is one I have a passion for. |
salsera:Please get your facts straight. I know very well that single people could pay up to 50 % Tax . I just pointed out and correctly too that there is a difference between tax and health insurance. Some of you probably don`t look at your payslips. Not everything beeing withdrawn is tax. There is a break down. Pensions, health insurance, church taxes and and and, depending on the country you live in. In a forum like this where people from all over the world participate it is good to be precise. So next time before you comment be sure you are hitting the nail on the head. |
tearoses:So as a lawyer I know that this is a civil contract. An issue between two contracting parties. Has nothing to do with the NHS nor with your tax payers money. The right thing for the hospital to do is to sue her for money owed. The court will determine how much she can pay back in installments. Since when do we slander people and splash them all over the newspaper because they owe money? For me her privacy and that of the five kid`s and their dignity is more important. For God`s sake someone is owing a debt and you splash her pictures all over the world. Do you know the impact on those innocent kid`s. Their identity being circulated? Do you know that that could even be endangering them. They could become targets of some fanatics or racist. Where those pictures of her circulated or taken with her consent? So what exactly are you up to here ! Is the fundamental human right of individuals worth nothing again? They owe a system and so you have a right to trample on their rights. As if we don`t know that institutions are insured and can write of debts. |
Chidoks:Difficult but very possible! However you need to make sacrifices! Allot of sacrifices to give the children what they need. |
tearoses:There is a difference between insurance and tax you did not differentiate. There is a difference between tax and health insurance. In some countries you pay almost 50 % Tax if you are single. As a Nigerian working in Britain.. how many white people does your taxy money support? Their accommodation, feeding , health. Many of them don`t want to work. Many of them need expensive medi care because of the impacts of drug and alcohol abuse. Why don`t you complain about that. How much of your tax payers money is used to finance the queen . How much is used for weapons? Instead of asking the right questions you are here crying out your eyes about a responsible Nigerian woman that gave birth to five children. Besides this woman was not taking an advantage of any health insurance. She had a private contract between herself and the hospital. She defaulted in payment. A civil case. Not a case for the nation.!!! The only mentality I have is that I see a bunch of Nigerians that have lost all pride in their origin. But one day very soon you will realize that there are house and field naggers but a naggers is a nagger for the white man. As you are busy pointing fingers at Nigerians back home, so are they pointing fingers at you over there. Finally it is not a thing of pride to be paying tax to former colonial masters! Sigh!!! |
Yes you live all your children equally and most parents that are good parents can answer that question truthfully. The only difference is how you show it. I have a son that shows allot of affection, he is emotional, liked to hug as a kid, always fussing over me. It is clear that you respond more to such a child than one that is more reserved. So in such a case the children think you love one more than the other but it`s actually not true. Also some children can bring more achievements than others. I have a child that needed to work real hard to get an average note. The other kid`s felt I was discriminating because i was more excited when he got a 3 than when they got a 1. But how do you explain to children how much pain the child suffers when he is not doing as well as the others and needs to be motivated. My last son started talking somewhat late and I was getting really worried. My kid`s can`t understand why I am excited about every new thing he learns. As a kid I never understood why my mother would go out of her way to entertain my sisters friends when they came visiting. She was always sending my friends home. Now as a mother I understand better. My sister did not have any friends so my mother was trying to encourage the friendship. I had loads of friends that where always around. But then I really believed she did not like me as much. So you basically love all the children but you show it in different ways. |
tearoses:Wrong information. Anyone paying into NHS is paying for services that might/ will be rendered to him and it certainly is not 20%. Please speak for yourself when analysing what is typical of nigerian behaviour. You know what your problem is. The problem you unfortunately have with some people in common. You feel you are inferior to the white man! Go rid yourself of that mentality. No self esteem!! |
Really?So how many such cases have we had in Nigeria. Even in Europe it is something special. It's irresponsible to request a service you KNOW you CAN'T and / or WON'T pay for. Should I waltz into the Ritz, expect premium service dinner and not pay for it because I was hungry? What sort of skewered analysis is this? Or should I fly 1st class because I desperately need to get to my destination and not pay up?Every day all over the world people are buying and making use of services they cannot pay for. From buying houses to electricity bill. So why are you getting worked up by this case. It really is not left for us to comment that she could eventually not pay. Being unable to pay is not a criminal offense. Would you care a damn if she had delivered in Nigeria and did not pay? And who exactly voted for these politicians in power?? The Brits? The British government? Or the NHS??Now it would be naive not to acknowledge the influence of the western powers in the choice of leaders. Do you think that it is the voters alone that determines who gets on the seat. The question is who messed Nigeria up. Let me make one thing very clear to you. Since Nigeria was a colony, all Nigerians should have been offered a British passport. When Nigeria got independence they scammed Nigerians out of it. Go to countries like Togo, you would find that many of them applied and got french passports. Mutter, do you pay a penny in taxes to the British government? Why don't you tell this to the millions of hardworking-tax-paying Brits that this isn't an issue? The NHS IS NOT A CHARITY ORGANISATION! It's built off the sweat of hardworking TAXPAYERS!The truth be told if I lived in Britain and worked there I would have sued them to heaven before I pay tax. Why should I pay tax to my colonial master? They ought to pay us for the damages caused. Infact no Nigerian should pay tax to the British Government, they should all be exempted from paying tax. That is justice. Besides what about people that don`t work in Britain, don´t they get medicare? They don`t pay tax!! Who pays that? The Government. SO the NHS is also indirectly a charitable institution. From each according to how he can. Sure, "well meaning Nigerians". That's what you get when people refuse to cut their coats according to their size, choose to breed like rabbits, and then come on the media soliciting for help from "well meaning Nigerians" and the World Health Organization. So why didn't she stay behind in Nigeria knowing fully well that her people - a.k.a "well meaning Nigerians" would definitely come to her aid??I guess one woman being blessed by God is enough reason to justify you insulting a whole nation. Breeding like rabbits! I hope you are not a Nigerian because if you were you are a very sorry one- a mental slave!!! So why can't your Nigerian government, with all her vast wealth, emulate a health care system that works for her people? Rather than churn out iidiots at the helm, and scammers at the grassroots?You are right there. Because Nigeria as a country was not able to scam other nations that is why some Nigerians have to carry on the fight individually. Please occupy yourself with the exploitation of the British Government spread all over the world. Still continues till today. Do you know the amount of money involved. .. Please go back and do your homework. Britain has taken a whole chunk of the Nigerian cake and is complaining about some individuals picking up some crumbs! Get real! The British government / NHS should review this case, draft up "Lessons Learnt" and plug in any loop holes to prevent this woman and her supporters from taking advantage of a system they didn't contribute a penny towards.Are you aware of what Nigerians contribute to the NHS. And are you aware of how many Nigerians are working in Britain in Medicare. Many under hard conditions and exploited. Besides i hope you are aware about the ethics of the profession- medi care is also a humanitarian act. The only nonsence I see is that Nigerian`s are made to apply for visa before going to Britain. This is wrong and the world says nothing to that. |
Poor lady. I just feel for her. She should be pardoned and reunited with her children She was not in her right senses. Women are most vulnerable at this stage In many countries you can drop the kid off and have a right to change your mind in 48 hours. Most of the girls go back and pick their babies |




