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budaatum:
You might want to explain how demons cause infertility or breast cancer.

If its causes are biological or psychological, then they are not caused by demons, unless you are substituting the word 'demons' for the phrase "biological or psychological causes".

"¹²So the demons begged Jesus, “Send us to the pigs, so that we may enter them.”
¹³He gave them permission, and the unclean spirits came out and went into the pigs, and the herd of about two thousand rushed down the steep bank into the sea and drowned in the water.
¹⁴Those tending the pigs ran off and reported this in the town and countryside, and the people went out to see what had happened
¹⁵and when they came to Jesus, they saw the man who used to have the mob of demons in him.
He was sitting there, clothed and in his right mind; and they were all afraid.""
- Mark 5:12-15

You do realise budaatum, that no one except for you, has yet advanced that demons cause infertility or breast cancer. Nobody has emphatically said that demons cause infertility or breast cancer. This is you just drawing conclusions and reading more than necessary, into what interlocutors are typing.

Now, let's get a much better grip and a bit on "biological or psychological causes." Directly or indirectly "biological or psychological causes" no doubt, are caused by certain influences.

Food, environment, choice life style, ignorance, wickedness, DNA inherited traits or heredity and genetics, etcetera are examples of direct influences behind some "biological or psychological causes" while there also are, principalities and powers, spiritual wickedness in high places etcetera, that indirectly are the influences behind some other set of "biological or psychological causes"

shadeyinka:
Inheritance simply means that "such is in her family line" either through her father or mother's heritage.

It just simply means that that particular kind of demon run within the family.

A person who is demonized is one who is infected with/influenced by demons.

budaatum:
As in, it runs in the family? Like breast cancer runs in families?

It is possible for the child to inherits DNA anomaly permissions, from its parent, as in, meaning, inherit a blip, on the screen of life, as it were, that runs in the family tree.

budaatum:
It sounds like you are claiming demons are simply another way of saying biological causes.
Confirm please, or explain if not.

"And when He came out onto the land, He was met by a man from the city who was possessed with demons;
and who had not put on any clothing for a long time, and was not living in a house, but in the tombs"
- Luke 8:27

"and when they came to Jesus, they saw the man who used to have the mob of demons in him.
He was sitting there, clothed and in his right mind; and they were all afraid."
- Mark 5:15

"News about him spread as far as Syria, and people soon began bringing to Him all who were sick.
And whatever their sickness or disease, or if they were demon possessed
or epileptic or paralyzed—He healed them all."
- Matthew 4:24

budaatum there is/are spirit(s) behind some biological or psychological causes. Some psychological, that primarily are mental or emotional, are caused by being getting demonised, as in meaning, a believer subjected to demonic influence or are caused by being demon possessed, as in, in this case from being an unbeliever

"What God the Father considers to be pure and genuine religion is this:
to take care of orphans and widows in their suffering
and to keep oneself from being corrupted by the world."
- James 1:27

"And don’t forget to do good and to share with those in need.
These are the sacrifices that please God."
- Hebrews 13:16

"Show respect to the elderly, and honor older people.
In this way you show respect for your God. I am the LORD"
- Leviticus 19:32

Presidential nominee/candidate ambition plus James 1:27, Hebrews 13:16 & Leviticus 19:32 things

AntiChristian:
Na! Plenty falsehood dey dere! One is Matthew 7:7. No be everything you ask you are given! No be everything you see you dey find!

"⁶Do not give dogs what is holy; do not throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.
⁷Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
8For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened"
- Matthew 7:6-8

AntiChristian, fyi, God has prepared everything you need beforehand, even before you were formed in your mother's womb has God prepared everything in advance for you. God has put in a seed all you'll ever need/ask for, all you'll ever want to see is planted within that seed. Its the same way there is a furniture, etcetera in a seed of oak tree, waiting for man to bring out the chair, table, chair, door, bed etcetera in the seed, but going on to Matthew 7:7-8, you need light to illuminate that scripture for you because you're looking at it wrongly, oversimplifying it and so misinterpreting it AntiChristian.

Matthew 7:7-8, actually is talking of salvation and the Door. In it, is the promise that, if you ask for it and/or both, it and/or both shall definitely given to you. If you seek it and/or both, you will definitely find it/them. If you knock on the Door, it definitely will be swung wide open for you to enter therein.

AntiChristian:
Was he a feminist?

No, He never was a feminist.

AntiChristian:
Why didn't he appoint one female?

I have already and previously adequately answered this question. Please AntiChristian, dont turn back the hand of the clock

AntiChristian:
People were anointed with oil in the OT! Why no females at all?

The status quo is why

AntiChristian:
So it is useless to anoint with oil in the OT right?

Anointing with oil in the OT is just symbolism, the oil in itself lacked power. The endowed power doesnt come from the oil, it comes from God's spirit, as in meaning, a selection from any one of the seven flavours of God's spirit. Anointing with oil in the OT is right and not useless, as it serves its purpose of being a symbolism of dedication to God's work

AntiChristian:
And where is your submission on Eli Eli lama/ Eloi Eloi Lama Sabachthani?

I thought with all these your sideline distraction you werent anymore interested, so I just sat back and started to be watching you. If you are still having interest and showing you're keen to know about it, then I'll submit the explanation that will cover the whole shebang of " Eli Eli lama/ Eloi Eloi Lama Sabachthani."

Return back here, in the late PM today, for the submission.

Ayoswit:
Join APC and become a saint

APC=AP Saint

AntiChristian:
Alright! I think i'm filled up. The bible should be taken as an eye witness report of an event which can be true or false! And as you said some truths may still be hidden by the "ogas at the top" in Rome.

The bible should be taken as a firsthand and corroborating eye witness report of an event which is true and devoid of falsehood!

AntiChristian:
And Jesus never mentioned any female appointed disciple anywhere!

Jesus cant mention any female disciple anywhere He didnt/never appointed nah!

AntiChristian:
Also there was never a woman "anointed" for your God's work in the Bible!

Everyone, as in meaning, every believer whether male or female are anointed and/or empowered for God's work

Lukuluku69:
Let's keep the powder dry.
Let's keep the powder dry.

"“You search the Scriptures because you think they give you eternal life.
But the Scriptures point to Me!"
- John 5:39

"²⁵Then Jesus said to them, “O foolish ones, how slow are your hearts to believe all that the prophets have spoken.
²⁶Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and then to enter His glory?”
²⁷And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, He explained to them what was written in all the Scriptures about Himself."
- Luke 24:25-27

"¹⁵And the angel of the LORD called to Abraham from heaven a second time,
¹⁶saying, “By Myself I have sworn, declares the LORD, that because you have done this and have not withheld your only son,
¹⁷I will surely bless you, and I will multiply your descendantsd like the stars in the sky and the sand on the seashore.
Your descendants will possess the gates of their enemies.
¹⁸And through your offspring all nations of the earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.” "
- Genesis 22:15-18

Bring it on Lukuluku69. I am a hurricane, I am not afraid of storms. I am not dull of hearing, so why do you need saying ''... keep the powder dry" twice

Lukuluku69, please tell me what are the promises God made to Abram and what is the impact/benefit one of the promises, will have to/for the rest of mankind and the world at lage?

Also you do know and understand, that everything you read in the Bible, whether stories or prophecies Luqman, Lukuluku69, are pointing to and/or talking of just and only one person, dont you, hmm?. No prizes for guessing who that is, lol.

AntiChristian:
Are you a woman or wetin concern me with woman not writing scriptures!

I am not a woman. It should concern you, because if women wrote, we would have had something else to read that will be corrobarating all we currently have, but yo be honest, and keep it between you and I, I think the women wrote somethings, but the powers that be, made sure it didnt see the light of day or hadit/them shut away in some thick door high security vault in Rome.

AntiChristian:
Women have been busing with keeping family going in those days! Men are more outside while women keep the home.

I saw how you too easily stereotyped there, lol

AntiChristian:
Why didn't Jesus select one female disciple among the 12?

"Then He appointed twelve of them and called them His apostles.
They were to accompany him, and He would send them out to preach,"
- Mark 3:14

It is true Jesus select one female disciple among the 12, but nonetheless Mary Magdalene, Joanna and Susanna are named female disciples among many other not named females disciples. It is the status quo, that tied Jesus' hand up from selecting one female disciple at least to be among the 12. Bear in mind that, it is not only women who were excluded, even us gentiles didnt get a leg in too, but anyway Mark 3:14 above tells why our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ didnt select one female disciple among the 12. The 12 had to be with Him everytime, all day all night, they followed Him about. It was later that female disciples joined and they too following our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ about.

AntiChristian:
"But all those who knew him, including the women who had followed him from Galilee, stood at a distance, watching these things."
(Luke 23:49)

"When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to her,
'Woman,here is your son,' and to the disciple, 'Here is your mother.'
From that time on, this disciple took her into his home."
(John 19:26-27)

At a distance or close to the cross where Jesus can see them? Since at a point they all fled...who filled in the gaps?

"¹Many people have set out to write accounts about the events that have been fulfilled among us.
²They used the eyewitness reports circulating among us from the early disciples.
³Having carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I also have decided to write an accurate account for you, most honorable Theophilus,
⁴so you can be certain of the truth of everything you were taught."
- Luke 1:1-4

Eyewitnesses accounts, investigative work etcetera helped in filling in any gap(s)

AntiChristian:
So the people that fled came back to watch the events they do not know how it started? And they watch from a distance doesn't cut it at all!
Women from far distance saw the crucifixion but men were the ones who reported the event as if they were there!

You can see I am well ahead of you as notice I previously had typed that with Jesus 4000 years ago, restoring the Woman, it is hypocritical to not see or have at least a single book written by a woman in the New Testatment, as we would have now today be able to read something from their own perspective and firsthand experiences, instead, what see and have are males, under the influence of men controlling power, come online to promote and/or perpetuate male dominance, so to keep women from their rightful equal leadership role calling and/or prominent positions

AntiChristian:
And when Jesus said "Eli Eli Eli.....Did they hear that from the distance or Jesus shouted till they could hear in such distance?

Just because they fled, it doesn't mean they weren't in the midst of the crowd, lol. You don't know that, that "Eli Eli ..." cry was addressed to the disciples in the crowd witnessing the crucifixion, do you, lol? There is a lot you awarent of lol.

AntiChristian:
How do the reporters know who was crucified along with Jesus?

From those who watched the whole episode from a safe close distance away possibly. If my memory serves me right, John actually, as in meaning, the disciple whom Jesus love, was there at the foot of the cross with Jesus' mother

Lukuluku69:
The whole gamut!

Softly, softly oooh, the whole gamut ke. You must have a huge appetite

Lukuluku69:
The story of the Israelites, the favours they had with God, the backslidings and repeated Mercy and forgiveness from God, their replacement with another Nation to be The Kingdom of God etc. We will consider the stories/prophesies of Israelites Prophets: Jacob, Jeremiah, Hosea, Daniel, Isaiah and Jesus. In fact e go be long

Brother, I know you're to some extent familiar with the Bible and knowledgeable of the biblical Abram/Abraham, so concerning this ".... The story of the Israelites, the favours they had with God, the backslidings and repeated Mercy and forgiveness from God, their replacement with another Nation to be The Kingdom of God etc..." comment of yours, please before we embark on our jaw jaw breaking bread talk, tell me about the promises God made to Abram and the impact one of the promises, will have to/for the rest of the world

Now everything you read in the Bible, whether stories or prophecies Luqman are pointing to and/or talking of just and only one person. No prizes for guessing who that is, lol.

Yeah when you are ready, show me your hand and sling me your first hook or shot

Lukuluku69:
Ok. We are told to smile more. No grudges taken this side too and I want us to have that talk about the contents of the Bible.

I am always 365 24 7 at your neck and call service brother. Share with me what's on your mind you want us to talk about.

Lukuluku69:
What with the Salaam? And you only return the Salaam if you are greeted with one. I don't recall greeting you with one. It is okay if you can't stop "lolling" now and then.

I dont hold grudges, so why I dont mind being forward or take liberties brother, lol. I am 1000% sure you do know that lol laughter is good for the health and overall wellbeing. Try start doing some, as it'll do you a world of good, lol.

Lukuluku69:
I reapeat, in words, we form mental pictures. You have been lolling all along. Five in one post, two in another and once above.

The image in my mind? Let me leave that to that always lolling mind.

Wa-Alaikum-as-Salaam brother Lukuluku69, as I've previously advanced, many form mental images in their heads/minds and most just like you, fail to get the right or correct picture. I find reading your comments quite hilarious and when I respond I just have smh lol.

Stephenmoka4:
if you read the story before and after that you'll understand better, I'll advise not to pick just a line without checking out the context of the chapter. After they left him and fled, Jesus was taken to Pilate but, not crucified immediately, he even stand trial etc

AntiChristian:
If Mark says they fled. Where's the verse they returned?

"Many women were there, watching from a distance.
They had followed Jesus from Galilee to care for his needs."
- Matthew 27:55

"⁴⁰And there were also women watching from a distance.
Among them were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James the younger and of Joseph, and Salome.
⁴¹These women had followed Jesus and ministered to Him while He was in Galilee,
and there were many other women who had come up to Jerusalem with Him."
- Mark 15:40-41

"Near the cross of Jesus stood His mother and her sister,
as well as Mary the wife of Clopas and Mary Magdalene.."
- John 19:25

AntiChristian, my dear Muslim brother and newly found friend, it was only women who had the balls, to at a safe distance, stand ground and be taking in all that happened to the Lord and Saviour of the world, Jesus Christ. His mother too, actually was near the foot of the cross as well.

With Jesus 4000 years ago, restoring the Woman, it is hypocritical to not see or have at least a single book written by a woman in the New Testatment, as we would have now today be able to read something from their own perspective and firsthand experiences, instead, what see and have are males, under the influence of men controlling power, come online to promote and/or perpetuate male dominance, so to keep women from their rightful equal leadership role calling and/or prominent positions.

AntiChristian:
So those Matthew and Mark are confirm liars?

No AntiChristian, Matthew and Mark, said all the truth nothing but the truth, they arent kofam liars.

They actually verbatim, said exactly the same words as were used originally by our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they wrote exactly what our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ said, so I wouldnt if I were you, suggest that they are kofam liars. It is the translators, like I've previously mentioned, who arent divinely inspired necessarily in their transliteration and/or translations.

AntiChristian:
I dey wait o!

It is worth the wait. Go grab some popcorn AntiChristian and reserve a comfy clear viewing front seat.

AntiChristian:
Sabachthani can be Aramaic and Mishnaic Hebrew!

Thank you very much my brother. You see, the answer is actually in answering the question.

Now, you're one step closer to what really and truly is the Aramaic/Mishnaic equivalent for the English word "forsaken" as I'll soon begin to show you what really went on, when our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ made that cry on the cross.

I will also show you that our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ never used the word "forsaken," as in meaning He never used the word "sabachthani"

I will show you how the translators interchanged words and departed from the word Jesus used on the cross to replaced it with something totally different to what was said on the cross.

I will give you a step by step, blow by blow explanation from the beginning to the end and everything in between about who and who Jesus was addressing the message of that cry on the cross to, lol. Just watch this space, as I'll be back in a few hours time, to in full force fill you in, lol. Cast the pearls before you to trample upon, lol

AntiChristian:
Go on....I don't agree with contradictions!

You are so bent on delaying your education abi?

You have admitted that you know understand and believe Mark was written in Hebrew and that Matthew was written in Aramaic, so if you know that much, why are you finding it difficult to say the every single words in "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani" (i.e. Mark 15:34) and/or "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani" (i.e. Matthew 27:46) are in Hebrew and/or Aramaic, hmm?

It is not a trick question I've asked AntiChristian, but it is necessary before I go full throttle, to establish whether or not you know, understand and/or believe that you AntiChristian are aware that every word in that cry was spoken in and written out in Aramaic and Hebre , because remember my dear Muslim brother friend, I previously did advance that, all Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true, but not all translations, whether 40 translations or not, is/are inspired by God and so not necessary, in some respects, useful to teach us what is true. So please where is the contradiction? Just answer the question earlier asked nah and let me point out the contradiction, leave the contradictions for me to show nah. You want me to go on, don't you, erhn?

I repeat what language is the word "sabachthani" of, hmm? C'mon whats your reply to this? Is it in Spanish, Greek, Hebrew/Aramaic, Igbo, Yoruba Hausa, Patois, German, English, Gambari, Mexican, Russian, French, Ijebu etcetera

AntiChristian:
Seeing you see not...
I have answered you before. Matthew uses Hebrew while Mark uses Aramaic!

Ah I must have missed where you answered me and/or said anything about Matthew uses Hebrew while Mark uses Aramaic, but anyways, thank you very much my dear brother and new found friend, lol. Remember I've earlier said, this is what is called getting some education AntiChristian, lol, so watch this page because a lot is going to be unraveled and correctly explained to you about "sabachthani," lol.

To start with, do agree and accept that every single word in spoken in that "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani" (i.e. Mark 15:34) and/or "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani" (i.e. Matthew 27:46) are in Hebrew and/or Aramaic, hmm? It is necessary before I go full throttle, to establish whether or not you know, understand and/or believe that AntiChristian, so whats your reply to this?

Lukuluku69:
Unnecesary words in a sentence are hot air to me and an offence to my sight. That said, in your post before this, I counted 5 "lols" in words we form mental pictures and I am thinking, this guy lolling to himself by himself? You get the pix?

Wa-Alaikum-as-Salaam brother, as you can see, at best of times, you're incoherent and incomprehensible, yet you have the audacity
to knock another's ability to type necessary many words fluently and coherently. Typical of you, to come back and say that's was a typo, that you meant to type "which" instead of "we" and then go to advise, if I want to masturbate on that, to go right ahead. You're so predictable, lol

Lukuluku69, many form mental images of me and most just like you, fail to get the right or correct picture, lol.

You're behaving like a grumpy old sod. Please don't take yourself so seriously, as no one else does about you. Thats the honest truth about the lols.

Lukuluku69:
Dude, keep your gun powder dry like I said.

MuttleyLaff:
Deal amigo, holler when you're ready and have strapped on more ammo, lol

I am 365 24 7 ever ready for you

AntiChristian:
The longer your epistle the more devoid of sense it becomes!

The longer your refusal to answer what language were the "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani" or "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani" words spoken in, the more in darkness it becomes, for you to know whether or not "sabachthani" means forsaken

"Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani" (i.e. Mark 15:34) and really "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani" (i.e. Matthew 27:46)

AntiChristian:
Sabachtani means abandon or forsaken in almost 40 translations of the Bible.
What does yours mean? Which Bible translation is that?

My dear Muslim brother friend, all Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true, but not all translations, whether 40 translations or not, is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true. Please answer the question earlier asked nah. What language is the word "sabachthani" of, hmm?

AntiChristian:
Simple questions that needs a simple answer and not a meaningless epistle!

Why is it, when you're giving the chance to get to the bottom of what "sabachthani" means, you dodge and skirt around the issue, hmm?

AntiChristian, please and for the umpteeth time, what language is the spoken "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani" (i.e. Mark 15:34) and really "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani" (i.e. Matthew 27:46) done in?

For example, is "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani" or "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani" entirely and each words in it, spoken in Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, French, Arabic, English, Greek, Aramaic, lol, German, Patois, Spanish, Russian etcetera language?

Lukuluku69:
Oh dear! Like I posted earlier, make it short. Many words in a sentence doesn't mean intelligence.

You are so hung up on the word "intelligence" and/or "intelligent." Seems in that department, you're short of it, and thats why any relevant and necessary many words in a sentence has an intimidating and challenging effect on you.

Agbalagba agbalabi behaving like the microwave generation, so impatient, want things fast furious and in a flurry, telling me, to make it short. Go boss Mrs Lukuluku69 around at home, if you're itching to give someone orders, lol

Lukuluku69:
But I can see you like to play around with words in that I must admit I am no match.

I am sorry, peele, that you cant keep up. Fyi, I dont play around with words, but rather, I work with words to communicate, to take peculiar people to task and to share information

Lukuluku69:
Keep your gun powder dry till when I can quote the Bible.

"always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth."
- 2 Timothy 3:7

You that have major problems explaining what is religion that is true, pure and faultless in God's eyes, want to quote the Bible. You that dont understand what is religion that is true, pure and one God finds faultless want to quote Bible, lol. You want to quote the Bible? To what end and/or what for, hmm? You, that's unable to come to any correct knowledge of the truth, of what is religion thats true, pure and one God finds no fault in, wants to quote Bible. Shaitan and demons are known to have quote Bible, so nothing new under the sun.

Mark my words Lukuluku69, that you will score own goals, with the Bible, you so badly have a craving/longing for, to quote lol. You probably are a pretty intelligent person, but you're that so self absorbed, you havent thought about embarrassment, crouching at your door and you being, its object of desire, lol. Your arrogance, needs leaving at the door, the second you walk into any room/thread.

Lukuluku69:
Typical. That was a typo and if you want to masturbate on that, go right ahead.

Lukuluku69:
I mean your cousins are still saying the Kingdom of God is at hand meaning yet to come and you are saying it is here.

As for me, that Kingdom was set up some 1,400 years ago and I belong to it.
And quit adding too many words to your post, it does not make you any intelligent than you are.

Lukuluku69:
It is an iPad. I got kids bruv and they play games on it. And must you add the word sex to your post? Are you that depraved? Smh

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Lukuluku69:
So, the TRUE Religion is to believe someone came to die for your follies/sin? No but no thanks.

My dear friend, who doesnt think many words necessary to make points with doesnt make MuttleyLaff be any more intelligent than MuttleyLaff is, you seriously havent got a clue, you know nada about what is religion that is true, pure and the sort God doesnt fault, lol. You keep putting your foot in your mouth, lol. If you had thought it thoroughly and carefully before typing, you wouldnt again be mixing faith/belief up with religion thats true, pure and faultless, lol. Didnt I predict you'll fumble and stumble, lol, hmm?

Lukuluku69:
As for my 'aversion' for long post, keep it as long as you wish but just be sure you cut out the childish quibble that come with and we will be cool.

If you are really that intelligent as you want believe you are, you should have seen from your quotes that I've reproduced above that its actually you who needs to cut out the childish quibble.

Lukuluku69, fyi, whatever hand you serve me, is what I'll serve and bounce back to you, even sometimes I might serve back with more or extra punch added to it, lol. Even though I am more of a lover than a fighter and I don't liketing get into confrontations with people but believe, if or when I say, I wont suffer some other peculiar persons though and so meaning, sometimes and surprisingly, I've been known to give as good as I get. You, Lukuluku69, have being using all sorts of subtle and veiled means to have a go at me, but when I turn the table on you, you start to make the ".. cut out the childish quibble that come with it ..." false accusation.

Where is this your phantom "childish quibble" sef? Copy and paste it here, where and when the alleged "childish quibble" happened. You have no idea what "quibble" is. I wont bother about "childish"

AntiChristian:
New International Version
About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" (which means "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?".

New Living Translation
At about three o’clock, Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” which means “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?”

English Standard Version
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”

Berean Study Bible
About the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” which means, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”

Berean Literal Bible
And about the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" That is, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?"

New American Standard Bible
About the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?" that is, "MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?"

New King James Version
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”

King James Bible
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Christian Standard Bible
About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out with a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani ? " that is, "My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?"

Contemporary English Version
Then about that time Jesus shouted, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" which means, "My God, my God, why have you deserted me?"

Good News Translation
At about three o'clock Jesus cried out with a loud shout, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" which means, "My God, my God, why did you abandon me?"

Holman Christian Standard Bible
About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out with a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?"

International Standard Version
About three o'clock, Jesus cried out with a loud voice, "Eli, eli, lema sabachthani?", which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

NET Bible
At about three o'clock Jesus shouted with a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" that is, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

New Heart English Bible
Then at about three in the afternoon Jesus called out with a loud voice, saying, "Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?" That is, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And toward the ninth hour Yeshua cried with a loud voice and he said, “Oh God, oh God! Why have you forsaken me?”

GOD'S WORD® Translation
About three o'clock Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" which means, "My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?"

New American Standard 1977
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?” that is, “MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME?”

Jubilee Bible 2000
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? That is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

King James 2000 Bible
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?

American King James Version
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?

American Standard Version
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Douay-Rheims Bible
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying: Eli, Eli, lamma sabacthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Darby Bible Translation
but about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

English Revised Version
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Webster's Bible Translation
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Weymouth New Testament
but about three o'clock Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken me?"

World English Bible
About the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lima sabachthani?" That is, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

Young's Literal Translation
and about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a great voice, saying, 'Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?' that is, 'My God, my God, why didst Thou forsake me?'
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Lexicon
sabachthani?”
σαβαχθάνι (sabachthani)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 2nd Person Singular
Strong's Greek 4518: Thou hast forsaken me. Of Chaldee or; thou hast left me; sabachthani, a cry of distress.

Thanks for giving me a lie!

"A mocker seeks wisdom and never finds it,
but knowledge comes easily to those with understanding."
- Proverbs 14:6

AntiChristian, you expect to pick up pearls just like that on the beach, hmm, lol? Fyi, pearls don't lie on the seashore, pearls draw divers to plunge deep into the sea, and so AntiChristian, if you want pearl(s), lol, you must dive for it, lol.

I remember telling you that, I dont think you're ready yet nor have the capacity to take a breakdown of the rest of the little I've said about the meaning of "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani." Even, lol, AntiChristian, I advised you to take it from me that "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani." is miles away from anything meaning "forsaken." I told you to trust me and asked would you think I'll lie to you about that, but you now are turning round thanking me and saying I gave you a lie.

Your slandering accusation is unfounded, and it can easily be proved that I have at no time lied nor gave you a lie. Let's find out, and we will start with what language AntiChristian, did our Lord and Saviour speak when He cried out "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani."

It actually and correctly was "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani" (i.e. Mark 15:34) and really "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani" (i.e. Matthew 27:46), so tell me what language is that AntiChristian spoken in? It doesnt matter whichyou prefer, Mark 15:34 or Matthew 27:46. Just answer the simple question, so we move and get more traction. This is what is called getting some education AntiChristian, lol. You'll come out wiser once and after we are done. That is, if you have the stamina, able to sustain and survive, lol

AntiChristian:
What is this one saying?

You heard what I said that no one should believe the eisegesis of someone like you AntiChristian that has sawdust for brains

JMAN05:
I don't think so. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Sunday-day-of-week.

However, we do worship God irrespective of the day.

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AntiChristian:
what does it mean?

I see you're beginning to warm closely and/or take to the quran's Surah 10:94 advice, lol. Thats good, will do you good and make you a well plus better informed person, lol

"Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani," fyi AntiChristian and for starters, was spoken said or spoken in Aramaic. Now, if Jesus meant "forsaken", He would have uttered "Eli, Eli, lama, Nashatani" where ''Nashatani" is the Aramaic for "forsaken", and if He did use ''Nashatani", then "Eli, Eli, lama, Nashatani" automatically would mean "My God, My God, why hath Thou forsaken Me" but no, our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, didnt use 'Nashatani", what He used and said was ''sabachthani" hence the famous dying words on the cross: "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani"

I am 1000% sure you have already spotted how the translators could have possibly made an honest mistake because of the similarities between the words ''nashatani" and "sabachthani"

I dont think you're ready yet nor have the capacity to take a breakdown of the rest of the meaning of "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani", lol AntiChristian, take it from me that it 's miles away from saying "forsaken." Trust me or would you think I'll lie to you about that, hmm?

AntiChristian:
And which Bible translation are you using?

I use any and all available bible translations I have acces to, cross checking them with each other and also with how the original text is rendered

Ishilove:
Why am I seeing four girls?
He died with the one who loved b-ball the most.
Inside life

God knows best sis
So you're a closet Marlian, lol.

NwaAmaikpe:

Kobe cheated on this lady severally in the past and she stuck by him even during his rape trials.
I don't see the justification of him not trying to get a son elsewhere.
I just don't see it.

He wasnt philandering because of want of trying to get a son

EternalBeing:
Yes, as subtle snake that Satan is, he has diceived many in this Generstion. To even think that one of my fomer friends; a self-professed felatio experts, prides himself to have snake tongue. He said he flicks his tongue with expertise like a snake and get any girl drooling. It makes me think that Satan as snake used his tongue on Eve, who in turn taught Adam (Just my personal openion). One thing is true though, that Mouth carries the Authority of Human Soul, was never created by our maker for sucking dirty down. Also, VJay and Phallus fits so perfecyly for each other. The highest we should do is to employ our fingers in perfecting whatever sexual needs be down there. Mouthing is a very very unnecessary inconvinent exteem that satan has been manipulating mankind to normalize.

orisa37:
U got it. Thanks. The Fact is "Selfishness is a Dracula and very lonely. It's an Atheist also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl28nkae5DU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDuBYIgOAaw

The two of youse have no idea, smh at both you. It is a right shame EternalBeing made some very noticeable and/or useful, interesting and important points in the original post but just had to spoil it all with his/her prudish, biased and non biblically backed views

Now you EternalBeing, get ready to answer the following questions:

1/ Please in a sentence or two briefly tell why at all cunnilingus/fẹllatio between a husband and wife is a sin?
2/ Does the bible, state clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion and/or doubt, how a husband and wife are to have sex, hmm?
3a/ Where did you get this idea from that it is dirty down there?
3b/ Where a man sees a woman, sexily wiggling her bumbum, causing it to move up and down or from side to side with small rapid movements, why doesnt the thought of its dirty down there, come foremost to the man's mind, hmm?
4/ If one of the partners is born without limbs, as some of us are, like no arms/fingers for example, how do you possibly expect him/her to pleasure the other partner, if not with the mouth, hmm? I bet you're the sort who will say its wrong to drive a car with your legs, lol.
5/ Do you really think everyone is a candidate for cunnilingus/fẹllatio that everyone qualifies for a cunnilingus/fẹllatio experience or everyone can partake in cunnilingus/fẹllatio?

AntiChristian:
You never seem to amaze me with your ignorance! So what does Eli Eli Eli lama.... Mean?

You know AntiChristian, that you mean to type you're amazed at your ignorance of not really knowing what "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani" exactly and truly means, lol

AntiChristian:
And why did the translators use forsaken to confuse christianhood?

Not necessarily to deliberately confuse christianhood, but for many other reasons I possibly can imagine, lol.

AntiChristian:
The curse in Revelations will now be on these misinterpreters right!

Not if they manage to successfully explain themselves before the Judge, lol.

Goshen360:
My brother I understand you....I'm only saying....
DSA don't have to come to Nigeria (because it's not safe yet for him) because he's already doing the word online and its spreading too....ijs

I get you, and its true what you've observed, even others already have told him he doesnt need to come because he has birthed and woke up others with same visions of emancipation he has for the politically and spiritually disenfranchised but when all is said and done, he actually is with at least 2000 specialised volunteers, coming to do the walk aside just doing the talking. He wants to replicate what he's done in Kiev and Ukraine at large, here too.

Lukuluku69:
It is an iPad. I got kids bruv and they play games on it. And must you add the word sex to your post? Are you that depraved? Smh

Mr Prude, you should have remembered you live in a glass house before start throwing mastubation stones about. I would think, its you' who's depraved for suggesting and advising masturbation to me. "Ai tete mu ole, ole nmu oloko" loosely translate means "when you dont shout thief at an armed robber, the armed robber will pull a fast one on you and start calling you the owner, thief first". Nice try, smh.

Lukuluku69:
The True Religion before God is like the one Abraham had

What!?. I said you 'll fumble and stumble, didnt I, hmm? Look at you and listen to yourself Lukuluku69, you're conflating Abraham's faith with religion thats true, pure and the sort God doesnt find any fault with, lol?

Lukuluku69:
And if your "God" want he can incarnate a zillion times and take forever to do that. It is his business not mine.

Lukuluku69, fyi, its only one time thats needed nah for the Father's business that's got done. You really and truly havent got the faintest idea

Lukuluku69:
I mean your cousins are still saying the Kingdom of God is at hand meaning yet to come and you are saying it is here.

It was a rhetorical question. I didnt or wasnt expecting you reply back to it.

Look closer home, yourself, look at your hands. Are your fingers equal in length. Nah, they arent right and besides you'll be a freak if they were, lol. By a God design we arent, my "cousins," as you like putting it and all, arent going to see things eye to eye. We all arent going to view everything about theology in the same way as each other does and enough to agree with each other about certain theological things, but hey what unites and bonds us all together is greater than whatever our differences are. Also there is a way we get to be equal in length and thats for another time, day or another thread to tell, my dear muslim brother friend, lol.

Lukuluku69:
As for me, that Kingdom was set up some 1,400 years ago and I belong to it.
And quit adding too many words to your post, it does not make you any intelligent than you are.

I am holding back actually, as I have already sensed and detected that you are averse to long posts and that too many words turn to information overload for you. I bet you drive a porsche or you're still dreaming of driving one, lol