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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really Anything God Can To Restore Leah Sheribu's Lost Years? by MuttleyLaff: 8:46am On Feb 06, 2020

luvmijeje:
Good morning Muttleylaff. Let me round up with what I'm doing then I'll be back to tear away the remaining lies you have been fed from birth.

Digest all the content I've advanced and/or put forward. Address all my objections and dont slide into your business as usual dodging, ducking and diving away from answering them questions put to you. No knee jerk reactions, just calm down and take in all I've typed before carelessly and recklessly jumping in feet first

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by MuttleyLaff: 7:58am On Feb 06, 2020

Peacefullove:
It simply means their blood cry out for vengeance . Like Abels blood did when Cain killed him. Blood can't speak literally but God took notice when an innocent blood is shed . But the soul of every flesh is in it's blood . Leviticus 11:27 . .

Jubilee Bible 2000
For the soul (or life) of the flesh is in the blood

"For the soul of all flesh, its life, is in its blood;
therefore, I have said unto the sons of Israel, Ye shall not eat the blood of any flesh,
for the soul (or the life) of all flesh is its blood; whoever eats it shall be cut off."
- Leviticus 17:14 Jubilee Bible 2000

Fyi, the correct verse is Leviticus 17:14 and not the Leviticus 11:27 mistakenly typed

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by MuttleyLaff: 7:52am On Feb 06, 2020*

shadeyinka:
In your opinion

I dont have opinion(s) about what is a Soul and what is a Spirit but I do have irrefutable facts on what each is and can give a rundown as well on what each is

shadeyinka:
What is a Soul?
What is a Spirit?

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul."
- Genesis 2:7

"All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died"
- Genesis 7:22

shadeyinka:
It seems we are not on the same page therefore there cannot be an agreement if the fundermental is not treated!

MuttleyLaff:
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shadeyinka, we obviously don't see the scriptures with the same understanding in very major ways because you and I understand scripture to the level of our submission to the Spirit of Truth. We understand scripture to how much we fill out to snuggly fit into the gift of the given out Holy Spirit. shadeyinka, we understand scripture according to the altitude of our individual and/or respective vantage points and/or the level/angle/direction/line of our perspective. Those two pictures I've pasted above, are worth more than twenty thousand words, lol.

"Rachel was about to die, but with her last breath she named the baby Ben-oni (which means “son of my sorrow”)
(i.e. as her soul was departing (for she was dying), she called his name Ben-oni; )
The baby’s father, however, called him Benjamin (which means “son of my right hand”)."
- Genesis 35:18

"When you withdraw your favor, they are disappointed;
Take away their breath, and they die and return to dust.."
- Psalm 104:29

You can again, say, it seems we are not on the same page therefore there cannot be an agreement because its all déjà vu, lol.

The rudimentary fundamental is, man, as in meaning, the soul, didnt become a living soul until ruach, the breath of God, as in meaning, the spirit of God was breathed into man's nostril. Any time the body or one draws his/her/its last breath, the breath, which in itself, is the spirit of life, runs out, and as a result of that, such person/animal then meets their death, as in meaning the person, him/her and even the animal of course, physically dies.

"So also it is written, "The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL."
The last Adam became a life-giving spirit
(i.e. but the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit
or the last Adam - The Life Giver Spirit"
- Genesis 7:22

Adam without the breath of the spirit of life, would have just remained lifeless soul. It is the breath of the spirit of life that gave Adam life and what stirred him alive, lol, shadeyinka and made him, Adam a living soul. When your great grandpa drew his last breath shadeyinka, the spirit of life left his body, returned and went back to God. His soul, as in meaning your great grandpa, though still conscious gets disengaged from the land of the living and him from that point onwards, no more has any dealings/connection/contact with earth and its inhabitants

shadeyinka, you are soul, because when God formed Adam from dust, Adam became a living soul not by God adding soul to Adam, but it is because of the breath of the spirit of life that he became a living soul. Without the breath of the spirit of life, Adam would have showed no sign of life. He would have been as good as a mannequin or be a glorified scarecrow, just be a lifeless soul, lol

Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really Anything God Can To Restore Leah Sheribu's Lost Years? by MuttleyLaff: 7:47am On Feb 06, 2020

luvmijeje:
I hope you know the book of revelation is a vision/dream. All what that took place is never going to take place the way it is written.

You're a clowning about abi? What makes you think, all what that's in it, is never going to take place the way it is written, huh?

luvmijeje:
So that nullify the scripture you quoted.

I am sure you are smart enough to know we are not going to be subjected to a life of never ending and/or uninterrupted long lasting evil. Hmm?

luvmijeje:
Am I wrong?

You arent only wrong, but you're completely out of order. You have move up from from slandering Apostle Paul and upgraded to taking a swipe at Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world

luvmijeje:
To you is good but to those who are negatively affected it is evil.

You have just reinforced my suspicion that you don't have a scooby doo whatever it is you're talking about. You're that theologically thick and blind, smh, that you're unable see in Matthew 21:12 and/or John 2:13-18, the symbolisms and bigger picture.

luvmijeje:
Since it flew over your head

That "it flew over your head" was my line I used for you. I used "... went swoosh over your head, like as if it was a Naija Airforce fighter jet..." on you, so hands off that line and go freshly construct your own lines, you unoriginal barawo shameless thief.

luvmijeje:
I will break it down further.
Gen 2:17
But you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die."

At least, we know you dont have the foggiest idea:
1/ What the full and detailed meaning of Genesis 2:17 is. ramification
2/ What is the meaning of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (i.e. TKGE)
3/ What the Good signifies/represents and what the Evil signifies/represents
4/ What "you will certainly die" means after "for when you eat from it"

Lets see you, break down the four above nah. Pftt. I wont be surprised, when business as usual, you refuse addressing the four above, lol

luvmijeje:
If man was capable of only good, there will have been no need for this instruction. God gave 2 instructions ......Don't eat and live or eat and die. What does that tell you.

Is "don't eat and live or eat and die" really what God said luvmijeje, hmm? When and where did God give these your figment of the imagination two instructions?

luvmijeje:
Before Adam even eat out of the fruit of good and bad man was already a carrier of good and evil. If they were not, God wouldn't have given that instruction. Man by design are carrier of good and evil.

The only instruction given was not to steal. The only instruction given was not to take another person's property without the Owner's expressed consent to have it.

Dont be daft luvmijeje, man was not and never, by a conscious behavior or deliberate design, created as a carrier of good and evil. Evil, is the absence of good, just as darkness is the absence of light. If you understood what the actual meaning of the TKGE or the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil is, you wouldnt be showing yourself up this way, lol

luvmijeje:
Well the answer is death. Any other answer is faith.

""²⁶And the enemy death shall be destroyed last:
For he hath put all things under his feet. And whereas he saith,
⁵⁵Where is your sting, oh death? Where is your victory, oh, Sheol/grave?""
- 1 Corinthians 15:26, 55

Wrong answer because man and not faith, is, who gets to have the last laugh, lol.

luvmijeje:
Fucking calm down. You are becoming emotional and simplistic in your reasoning

"Fucking calm down" are my adopted middle names. It is you who actually is simplistic in your reasoning and now drama queen getting emotional, like as if there a bee caught up inside your knickers. Basic, easy and/or elementary bible you dont comprehend.

luvmijeje:
Was Leah given a choice before evil was meted upon her? You can only control what you will do. You can't control the actions of others.

"And to Adam He said:
“Because you have listened to the voice of your wife
and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat,
cursed is the ground because of you;
through toil you will eat of it all the days of your life."
- Genesis 3:17

You must have gotten amnesia, to not remember from Genesis 3:17 above, that barrenness instead of fruitfulness is what man got for the trouble of stealing the fruit from the TKGE. It is the archetypal barreness that visited Rachel. If the fruit wasnt stolen, there wouldnt have been any case of barreness.

Now tell me luvmijeje confused.com:
1/ What is evil was meted upon Leah, hmm?
2/ Who is/are the instigator(s) or originator(s) of the alleged evil meted upon Leah, lol, hmm?
3/ Why do you think Leah was hated, what was she hated for luvmijeje, hmm?

luvmijeje:
Again you are being simplistic in your reasoning, the good I do doesn't necessarily neutralise the evil that will be done me.

"Though a thousand fall at your side, though ten thousand are dying around you,
these evils will not touch you."
- Psalm 91:7

The good you do luvmijeje, all your righteous deeds luvmijeje, are like filthy rags. They are like rassclaat, bomboclaat or in a language you'll know, they are like a menstrual cloth. Now, are you that so doubtful of Psalm 91:7 above, O ye of little faith, hmm luvmijeje? Have you heard the words, grace, favour, providence etcetera, hmm?

luvmijeje:
If it does, Leah should not be facing what she is facing

Humour me nah luvmijeje, what exactly is it, that Leah was facing that she shouldnt have to face, hmm, lol?

luvmijeje:
What a foolish question to ask. You should have ask who was the first man on earth.

Only a foolish person will quickly and easily recognise a foolish question, lol. Let me rephrase the question for you, so to make it easier and plainer to answer. When was evil first detected in man and man's world luvmijeje, when did it first begin? What was the first evil committed by man? What was its stimulus, lol?

luvmijeje:
Very simplistic with your reasoning. I will give an example to answer your question. A man stole apple from a trader due to hunger (You can insert any reason). He stole to survive. That is not evil.

Stealing to survive is no justification for theft. Robbing Peter, to pay Paul, is evil. Did God tell the man to go steal the apple, hmm? Did the man receive instructions from God to go steal the apple?

luvmijeje:
Afterall the Isrealilites stole lands from Canaanites based only on the dream Abraham has. But to the trader, it is evil. Also to the Canaanite what the Isrealite did was evil.

"I will give the whole land of Canaan
--the land where you are now residing
--to you and your descendants after you as a permanent possession.
I will be their God.""
- Genesis 17:8

"¹³Then the LORD said to Abram, “Know for certain that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not their own; they will be enslaved and mistreated four hundred years.
¹⁴But I will judge the nation they serve as slaves, and afterward they will depart with many possessions.
¹⁵You, however, will go to your fathers in peace and be buried at a ripe old age.
¹⁶In the fourth generation your descendants will return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.” "
- Genesis 15:16

Smh. You're a shameless and unscrupulous big cheat liar. Six times, at least, other than that Genesis 15:16 above, God promised Abraham and his descendants that piece of real/royal estate Canaan land, so what the foxtrot uniform charlie kilo are you yarning and talking about, hmm?

luvmijeje:
You are obviously not being at the receiving this government policy. So your reasoning is understandable

You nothing other than a twisting things up liar and a crybaby

luvmijeje:
Muttleylaff, Again I am re-iterating, man is a wielder of evil.

Of course because the moment man took a bite of the fruit of TKGE, man personally and actively, opened himself to get involved in a countless and/or extremely great number of good and evil firsthand experiences, lol

Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really Anything God Can To Restore Leah Sheribu's Lost Years? by MuttleyLaff: 7:46am On Feb 06, 2020

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Good morning luvmijeje

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by MuttleyLaff: 3:59pm On Feb 05, 2020

MuttleyLaff:
1/ What gets judged blueAgent?
2/ Is it the soul or the spirit?
3/ The ______ that sin, shall die. Fill in the blank blueAgent.

Michellekabod2:
Body-flesh that decays and becomes dust
Soul-innerman/what occupies flesh
Spirit-breath of life/life giving energy that powers human
Correct me if am wrong on this

MuttleyLaff:
Numbering your answers with corresponding asked questions would have made it possible to know what you've replied to Mich'

Michellekabod2:
this isn't in response to any post, wanted to clarify the meaning of those terms from a religious perspective

OK

Body-flesh that decays and becomes dust =>(check) ✓ ¹⁰/₁₀
Soul-innerman/what occupies flesh =>(check) ✓ ^9.25/₁₀
Spirit-breath of life/life giving energy that powers human (check) => ^9.25/₁₀

You would have gotten the full ¹⁰/₁₀ marks, but obviously there are more meat to add to your second and last responses

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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really Anything God Can To Restore Leah Sheribu's Lost Years? by MuttleyLaff: 3:50pm On Feb 05, 2020*

luvmijeje:
Good MuttleyLaff.
I am now understanding the point you are trying to make.

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Better late in now understanding, than never.

luvmijeje:
So let me proceed to answer your 10 questions. As I earlier said, the answers to your question could be found in my initial post.

Trust me, if they were glaringly there, I would've been asking you questions about them, besides this way, I can get you openly admit a perpestive and/or committed to a position

Every man born of a woman is a carrier of evil and he or she is a carrier of good. Someone who is capable of good is also capable of evil. I will use Christ as an example. Matthew 21:12

Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.

To those doing business, what Christ did was evil. He destroyed their source of livelihood. In other words there is no absolute good or bad persons.[/quote]Haba luvmijeje, have the fear of God in you now. Which mouth did you use to say this blasphemy and/or which fingers did you use to type this meshugas, hmm?

luvmijeje:
See answer to question 1.

Bullshit! The answer to question 1 doesnt correlate, it is not in agreement or harmony to question #2 asked here. What has Jesus whipped got to do with give me a breakdown of what eating the fruit of the TKGE is meant to lead to, erhn? You just have to show your crafty nature hmm?

luvmijeje:
Is there a man born of a woman who's end is not death?

Of course, there isnt a man born of a woman who's end is not death, but that is for now and no prizes for guessing luvmujeje, who gets to have the last laugh

luvmijeje:
So where is the triumph over evil?

"And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire.
This is the second death, the lake of fire."
- Revelation 20:14

In light of Revelation 20:14 above, I am certain luvmijeje that, you sure really didnt mean to ask the "where is the triumph over evil" question

luvmijeje:
See answer to question 1.

You're a joker, for sign-posting me to that worthless response of an answer you gave to question #1.

Look at you dodging a simple, easy, direct and straightforward question, you have no shame. How difficlt is it for you to respond to question #4: "what is better, is it better for man to have a choice to do or not do evil (e.g. to steal or not steal a fruit) than to have good forced upon him"

luvmijeje:
See answer to question 1.

How does your ineffective answer to question #1 be a response to question #5: "What would your good do if evil didn't exist?"

luvmijeje:
See answer to question 1.

Here we go again. Hiding behind your weak answer to question #1 as your response to queztion #6: " 6. When was evil first detected luvmijeje, when did it first begin? What was the first evil? What was its stimulus, lol" Smh.

luvmijeje:
Yes I have.

Praise The Lord. Alleluia. The cat has found its tongue. What lesser evil then is it to your knowledge and/or understanding that heralded in the whole shebang of evil(s)?

luvmijeje:
Man is not expose to evil. Man is a carrier of evil.

If man was not exposed to evil, please tell me what stealing is luvmijeje. Is stealing a virtue or something morally good? If man according to you, is a carrier of evil, at what time did this happen, did man become a carrier of evil? Smh, luvmijeje, ease up, OK? Now what in a simple definition, originally, is evil, luvmijeje, lol?

luvmijeje:
Every man you will come across in your lifetime is capable of doing you good or doing you evil. I will give you an example. Do you know many Nigerians are complaining of Buhari''s Government but there are some who are benefiting from it. Those who are not benefiting see his government as evil while those who are benefiting see his government as good.

Will you stop this your crazy talk. Those who are not benefiting from the dividends of democracy see his government as weak and not effective enough. They dont necessarily see his government as evil. Get a grip.

luvmijeje:
See answer to question 8.

You're back to your old dodging a question tricks again hmm?
Your answer to question 8 doesnt have a response to question #9: "What is it necessary that man was exposed to evil"

luvmijeje:
I do pray. The places I prayed last.
1. At a workplace last week
2. In my dream also last week.
3. For someone who shouted amen in response to me stating an obvious fact this weekend.

Prayer is a form of hope. It is a form strength. It is a form of togetherness. It is a form of peace. Above all it is a form of faith.

I can live with all this

luvmijeje:
But can it stop evil? No. It can only give you hope, strength, peace and faith in the midst of it?

Let me paint a scenario luvmijeje.

Say you live in a gated entrance and security manned housing estate, but in the middle of the night truckload of armed robbers overpowered the security men at the gate, tied them up, then started a house to house, door to door visit in the estate, plundering, manhandling everyone they accost. You can see on the CCTV, the evil they are meting out, blood etcetera everywhere, they havent got to your house as you live at the furthest part of the estate. Now will you consider praying to God, to stop the evil approaching your house or not

PS: I intentionally made the scenario not to be violently charged graphic and for obvious reasons

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by MuttleyLaff: 2:27pm On Feb 05, 2020

Michellekabod2:
Body-flesh that decays and becomes dust
Soul-innerman/what occupies flesh
Spirit-breath of life/life giving energy that powers human
Correct me if am wrong on this

Numbering your answers with corresponding asked questions would have made it possible to know what you've replied to Mich'

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by MuttleyLaff: 12:38pm On Feb 05, 2020

blueAgent:
This is guess work and pure human teaching and doctrine not Bible.

1/ What gets judged blueAgent?
2/ Is it the soul or the spirit?
3/ The ______ that sin, shall die. Fill in the blank blueAgent.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really Anything God Can To Restore Leah Sheribu's Lost Years? by MuttleyLaff: 12:33pm On Feb 05, 2020

luvmijeje:
Muttleylaff, below is my first post on this thread .

You went on a merry go round to come to the conclusion I initially made on my first post. The answers to your 10 questions can be found in my initial post. If you can't see it, let me know

luvmijeje, so I judiciously blow by blow addressed each of your assertions. If you at all are being sincere you would at least admit that I advanced and/or proposed that some evil can be averted. I even gave a story of Jack falling off a cliff having his prayer to be saved answered as an example of prayer to stop evil.

You are being dishonest, in saying science isn't being used to stop evil.

Nobody has contested with you that evil hasn't become necessary to bring out the good in man or that evil is a fact of life.

You don't want to admit or acknowledge that the presence of evil is eternal or it has a free rein on man forever.

You know you will set yourself up for a fall, that is why you find answering those 10 questions frightening, lol. Your replies to those 10 questions will show you up, you know that and that's why you took the cowardly & easy option to refuse directly give your answers to the 10 questions, lol.

You are all talk and no blouse. You won't get off that lightly luvmijeje, doI re-ask:
How many men does it take to introduce death and evil into the whole wide world and how many men does it require to restore life, peace, tranquility, lovingkindness and goodness back into www, whole wide world, and forever cancel out evil and death, hmm luvmijeje, lol?

Christianity Etc › Re: Reverend Jim Hogan Survives Accident That Claimed 6 Lives by MuttleyLaff: 6:43am On Feb 05, 2020

AntiChristian:
You're portraying your God as a deceiver!

"And the great dragon was hurled down
—that ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world (i.e. shaytan/shaitan)
He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him."
- Revelation 12:9

God is not man, that He should lie, nor is He a human being, that wont honour his name and/or word

I am portraying the work of God, the extent to and how far God went, so that you, I and the rest of the whole wide world be saved

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by MuttleyLaff: 6:21am On Feb 05, 2020

shadeyinka:
You are just repeating assertions that hold no water. A mistranslation cannot be made whole by assertions.

See your confusion @bolded!

Your soul is YOU!

10000% bet your bottom dollar correct

shadeyinka:
I asked what's the Soul and what's the Spirit?

MuttleyLaff:
I am 110% sure you'll agree and accept that, it is the Soul that is saved even Ezekiel 18:20 emphatically states that: "The soul that sinneth, it shall die.", it doesnt say its the Body or the Spirit. Now, the heart is used by the Soul but the heart definitely is not the Spirit

Let me slip this bit in, first, as a preamble. Proverbs 4:23 and Luke 6:45 above, informs us that, it's out of the abundance of the heart first, then processed in the brain or mind, before the mouth speaks. All evil intents comes forth out of the heart, as in, the heart housed in the human Body. Mark 7:21-22, paints a picture of the heart with the following: "For from within the hearts of men come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, wickedness, deceit, debauchery, envy, slander, arrogance, and foolishness" and Jeremiah 17:9 doesnt paint the heart in good light either, as it says: "The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?"

Incidentally, the verse, Psalms 51:10, informatively tells us, that the heart is linked with the mind, which is part of the Soul. The same Soul or psyche uses the heart as an outlet, to pass out or pass in things, from the Body and/or Spirit via the heart in the Soul. I'll soon below explain how it does this and/or how this works

What is man?
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
- Genesis 2:7

"For the Spirit of God has made me,
and the breath of the Almighty gives me life."
- Job 33:4

Man is a spirit being, residing or housed in a Body and possessing a Soul (i.e. a psyche). In fact, Man is made up of Body, Soul and Spirit. As a matter of fact, the Soul or psyche, has the Body and Spirit on each opposite sides of it. In a nutshell, Man essentially, is a spirit being with a Soul, housed, encapsulated, and/or wrapped up, in a human being body suit.

Genesis 2:7 and Job 33:4 above, informs us, its "ruach" the Spirit from God and "neshamah" that keeps the human body animated.

Now shadeyinka, please dont try to mix up "ruach" and "neshamah" with ordinary and/or commonplace spirits, as in meaning, dont try to mix up the Spirit of God and the breath or wind of God, with extraterrestrial beings, which is what evil and good spirits are.

Fyi, "ruach", in Hebrew, with its corresponding Greek word "pneuma" essentially and in an almost oversimplified way means force. It is breath, wind, spirit of God, all rolled in as one thing. It in a sense, is the invisible force or power of God, hence why being perceived as a Spirit, so yes, "ruach" is the Spirit of God. In fact you wont wrong in saying that "ruach" or "Ha Ruach Ha Kodesh" is the Holy Spirit, as in, the Spirit of God.

You can see both "ruach" and "neshamah" being interplayed in the creation of man from Genesis 2:7 reproduced above, and as a witness plus as a supporting verse, Job 33:4 you see reproduced above, confirms, by testifying, that, its "ruach" that made man and it is "neshamah" that gives man life

"Neshamah", incidentally, is actually derived from another Hebrew word called "nasham" that means to pant and/or blow away with air, now, when the spirit, as in, meaning, "neshamah", the breath, returns back to God, the Body slumps and the Soul goes into comatose. This looks and feels, similar to a TV animated cartoon changed and turned into a cartoon strip character, on a comic book or magazine paper. TV animated cartoon characters moves, but cartoon strip character, on a comic book or magazine paper dont move like animated cartoon characters watched on TV screens. For the life of the body is in the blood and the life of the soul is in the spirit. When the spirit leaves the body, it returns back to God, leaving the body inanimate, meaning leaves it motionless and lifeless, as in, without life or no more with life. Ecclesiastes 12:7

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it."
- Ecclesiastes 12:7

"For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol; Nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay."
- Psalm 16:10

blueAgent, you're too heavy to want to fall for my hand now, please dont. Biko, jor abeg. The soul of Jesus, not being left in Sheol, aka hell/hades, is King David's Psalm 16:10 prophecy being fulfilled. Everything written about Jesus, in the Law of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms were each and every one fulfilled, and so we have it that the soul of Jesus was not abandoned in Sheol nor His body decayed. Praise God. Alleluia.

Now, shadeyinka, when our Lord Jesus Christ resurrected, He resurrected with a glorified body. Need I go on, need I say more, if not, then I rest my case then.

After the death of the Body, the Soul without God, without any affinity with God, cant achieve or have eternal life

I guess shadeyinka that you'll agree that the devil and demons are souless, meaning they have no soul. Now, the reason why the devil and the demons are inredeemable is because of the fact that they have no souls. The devil and the demons, are not able to be saved, be improved, or be corrected because of the mere fact that they lack a soul. The devil and the demons, to start with, unlike human beings, havent got diddly squat souls to make better, to make more desirable, satisfactory and/or effective.

Christianity Etc › Re: Appropriated Responses To A Dumb Mutt by MuttleyLaff: 6:02am On Feb 05, 2020

LordReed2nd:
I have edited my slip so no I am not being generous to you

Editing your unintentional error wont rub out or remove your already revealed subconscious mind/feelings.

LordReed2nd:
The book is true because it says so is worthless.

One man's toxic waste, is another man's potpourri., is the least I can say to this comment.

LordReed2nd:
Conviction also weighs very little in ascertaining truth. You may be convinced of all manner of things that are neither true or real therefore you still need a method by which to confirm if your convictions bear out. If conviction is all you have then I am sure you understand why some of us remain unconvinced.

MuttleyLaff:
Conviction is the barest minimum required to show how we can be sure what was written was an accurate account of the events that took place in the life of the man we call Jesus, if such a person actually lived and performed all the acts attributed to him. If you have it, you have it. If not, well c'est la vie.

I need no method to prove anything. I don't want to prove anything, because I am yet to be let down by my conviction(s). I am glad you see me, as I am and I am sure you'll be the first in queue, to say, I have that right to be as I am, just the same way, you have the right, to be who you are or haven't we, LordReed2nd, hmm?

Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really Anything God Can To Restore Leah Sheribu's Lost Years? by MuttleyLaff: 5:54am On Feb 05, 2020

luvmijeje:
See dribbling!

Where exactly is the dribbling, huh? Point out where the dribble is

luvmijeje:
In other words prayer cannot stop evil. If you know evil is coming for us all, where did you all get your teaching that prayer can stop evil?

"Jesus walked on a little way.
Then He knelt with His face to the ground and prayed,
"My Father, if it is possible, don't make Me suffer by drinking from this cup.
But do what you want, and not what I want."
(i.e. Yet I want Your will to be done, not Mine)"
- Matthew 26:39

luvmijeje, prayer isn't necessarily about requests, begging and/or asking for something. It is more of a longing of the soul. It is daily admission of one's weakness, lol.

luvmijeje:
The scriptures you quoted earlier doesn't indicate that prayer stop evil.

Did I ever advance that prayers 100% stops all evils, hmm?

Fyi, it is pointless shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted, evil will have to run its full course before it all gets to stop, nonetheless but remember the previously mentioned "Let Go of the Branch" to stop death and have a "save me prayer" answered story, hmm? Jack's prayer to prevent or ward off death was answered, wasnt it in that isolated story, hmm luvmijeje?

luvmijeje:
So I don't understand why you quoted it.

I think you're getting confused. List what I quoted, so I can shed light on why I quoted the verse(s)

luvmijeje:
I stand to be corrected, I am boldly stating that there is no major character in the Bible who evil didn't befall.

Seems you dont know the implication of what eating the fruit off the TKGE is, lol.

TKGE, fyi, is an acronymn for the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil

luvmijeje:
But this is thing about evil, just as failure, evil exist to teach us a lesson and to strengthen us. Above all evil exist to expand the mind of man. What do I mean?

Police, immigration officers, soldiers etc were all invented by man to stop evil. The greater the invention the greater the capability of man and nature to commit evil. As long as man exist evil can't be stop. A place there is no evil, there is no man. So if you are praying for evil to stop, you are praying for the extinction of man.

You're giving me the impression you dont know what the implication of "... Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness" means and/or is all about.

Fyi, police, customs, immigration officers, soldiers, traffic wardens, Nafdac/environmental officers, food inspectors etcetera were all invented by man to ~~stop~~ manage the prevention of evil committing crime(s)

luvmijeje:
As long as man exist evil can't be stop. A place there is no evil, there is no man. So if you are praying for evil to stop, you are praying for the extinction of man.

You're typing, as if you dont know that, man at one stage in life, was not affected by any form of evil. Never confuse a single setback with a forever reverse of fortune

I asked you a question earlier but it typically, went swoosh over your head, like as if it was a Naija Airforce fighter jet. You side-stepped it, as "you didn't know warris going on" Anyway, I'll re-ask it again, but as, question #1 below and then let's have a bit of "evil" education and "evil" history lumped together other questions too asked, lol.

1/ How many men does it take to introduce death and evil into the whole wide world and how many men does it require to restore life, peace, tranquility, lovingkindness and goodness back into www, whole wide world, and forever cancel out evil and death, hmm luvmijeje?
2/ Give me a breakdown of what eating the fruit of the TKGE is meant to lead to
3 Are evil and death going to triumph forever luvmijeje, hmm?
4/ What is better, is it better for man to have a choice to do or not do evil (e.g. to steal or not steal a fruit) than to have good forced upon him?
5/ What would your good do if evil didn't exist?
6/ When was evil first detected luvmijeje, when did it first begin? What was the first evil? What was its stimulus, lol?
7/ Are you familiar with the saying: "Never open the door to a lesser evil, for other and greater ones invariably slink in after it," hmm?
8/ What is it necessary that man was exposed to evil?
9/ If your answer to #8 above is Yes, give reason(s) why yeah and if No, equally give reason(s) why not.
10/ luvmijeje, do you ever at all pray? First recall what I previously said about what prayer isn't necessarily is then answer this.

Christianity Etc › Re: Reverend Jim Hogan Survives Accident That Claimed 6 Lives by MuttleyLaff: 5:51am On Feb 05, 2020

AntiChristian:
You have started again!

Gradually stuff are being disclosed to you, but you have little faith in God's prowess, capability and/or ability. Why AntiChristian, are you so doubtful, O ye of little faith, hmm?

AntiChristian:
Confusion!

Ignorance, when you deliberately, ignore important information, disregard facts or deliberately remain in the state of being unaware, as a matter of fact, is evil! Keep an open mind AntiChristian, it's the only way good and new things can get in

AntiChristian:
So Jesus and God are same but one is Father and the other Son?

Is there any thing too hard God to be and/or difficult for God to do, hmm?

AntiChristian:
So all that stroy in revelation that the Father was looking for who to die for sin and Jesus accepted where lies abi?

Not lies, but it is the objective truth(s) of the DIY God Project to save the whole wide world

AntiChristian:
So it was Jehovah that was crucified in the Bible?

You're increasing becoming a fast learner

AntiChristian:
Jehovah was afraid of death and was putting His head to the ground worshiping only God knows who?

A leader leads by example

AntiChristian:
Was Jesus was being baptised a voice came from heaven....was this a scam? Cos if Jesus and God are the same then all this na fake!

I am sure you're capable of doing quite a lot of few great things. However, there are some things I am 10000% sure you AntiChristian, even with the greatest effort, you just CAN'T ever do and that, just for an example, is that you're unable to project out yourself and transform yourself into say, an iced lollypop. Now just because you are incapable or that you find it impossible for you to do, is no excuse to limit and/or underachieve God

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by MuttleyLaff: 5:49am On Feb 05, 2020

shadeyinka:
Another question!
2. We know that angels and demons are not flesh and blood. Do these spirit beings have souls?

No, spirit beings do not have souls, lol.
Why do you think the devil and the fallen other celestial beings are irredeemable, hmm? They not able to be saved and/or get corrected because they lack a very important mechanism, lol.

Peacefullove:
Psalm 104:29 is still there for you. Infact Ecc 3:19 says man and animals have the same spirit.

To burst your lies, Some translation uses breath but went ahead to indicate in their footnotes that it means *Spirit

MuttleyLaff:
What point? Which point? You made no point, you have no point.

''"The spirit of God made or fashioned me; and the breath of the Almighty gives me life."
- Job 33:4

''This is what God the LORD says—He who created the heavens and stretched them out,
who spread out the earth and its offspring,
who gives breath to the people on it and life to those who walk in it:"
- Isaiah 42:5

If it is true that God is uninterested, then it means that currently now you should and/or ought to be dead, and thats from God asking for His breath back from you. God is interested in you, which is why you're alive on earth, breathing in the land of the living. If not, then means, you by now should be six feet under, but you aren't yet six feet under, so indicates God's interest in you.

You know you're lying making that comment or merely just trying hard being ignorant. You know you wish and/or you expect, at the very least, to be alive, as in meaning, be alive and kicking here on obodo earth among and/or along with others on this land of the living

Doubt, is an unfortunate and uncomfortable condition to have ThothHermes. Peele. Ndo.

"Who knows if the spirit of man rises upward
and the spirit of the animal descends into the earth?"
- Ecclesiastes 3:21

The difference is, man is made in the Godhead's image and likeness but animals are not. Ecclesiastes 3:21, debates if man's spirit goes up after death, and animals' go down into earth. The point is made that both have spirits, as in meaning, the breath of God respectively in them.

Peacefullove:
God Himself have soul

God doesnt have a soul, period.

Peacefullove:
Isaiah 42:1
Isaiah 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth;

I guess another entity lives inside God ?

"“Here is My Servant, whom I uphold, My Chosen One, in whom My soul delights.
I will put My Spirit on Him, and He will bring justice to the nations."
- Isaiah 42:1

With the utmost respect, notice the distinction in Isaiah 42:1 above, that, soul has small lettercase "s" while Spirit has big lettercase "S". Assigning human qualities and physicalities to God, as in like, having hands, mouth, face, eyes, heart, soul etcetera (e.g. Jeremiah 32:41) doesnt mean God really has any of these same and direct physicalities.

Christianity Etc › Re: Reverend Jim Hogan Survives Accident That Claimed 6 Lives by MuttleyLaff: 2:57pm On Feb 04, 2020

AntiChristian:
You God is not merciful. Why can't He himslef come to die but left his son to come and die for the sins of the evil He created?

MuttleyLaff:
"Jesus said to them,
“If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God;
nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me."
- John 8:42

"Exerchomai" is the Greek original word translated as "proceeded forth". By definition, it means, to go or come out of, with mention of the place out of which one goes, or of the point from which one departs. John 8:42 above, makes no mistake, where from Jesus proceeded forth and came from.

AntiChristian, Jesus Christ is God and even god sef, just as I've earlier said and especially if that's how or a way Hairyrapunzel understands to put it.

No, I am not AntiChristian, implying that Jesus and God are the same entity, but I am emphatically saying that Jesus and God are the same entity.

AntiChristian, listen and watch this. I put on different attire colours to reflect my mood and image I am trying to project across. I could put on a red dress to make a statement that I am fiery, vibrant and lively. The colours are not me, they are images reflecting certain aspects of me. It's the same with God, the maleness and femaleness is not God, they are just constructs made in the image of God. God really isnt male nor female

We all know what kind of image one is projecting when wearing black colours, could be mourning or trying to look sexy

The "the only begotten" means the only person uniquely gotten this way. The phrase has nothing to do with God biologically giving birth to Jesus, as a mother, like women do.

AntiChristian, God is formless. God is a Spirit, and so has no form. God however does have masculine and feminine distinctive personalities plus characteristics associated with man and woman

Before you step and slip on my "God is formless" banana skin comment, let me make myself clearer with the comment, by adding to it, that God is shapeless and formless like water. When you pour water in a cup, it becomes the cup. When you pour water in a bottle, it becomes the bottle. When you pour water in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. When you pour water into a drum, it becomes the drum of water. That is why when Moses asked God who should he say sent him, if asked by the Israelites, God said to him, say, I AM I AM sent you.

I AM I AM, in that narrative, means I shall be that I shall be, also means whatever it is necessary for God to be, that, God will be. God willl be a pillar of cloud in the day and become a pillar of fire to give them light at night. God is formless, yet God can take on any form. I know it sounds like an oxymoron thing to say it that way, but God, though truly is formless, can manifest Himself in any form, just as in that Nebuchadnezzar fiery furnace and etcetera

Christianity Etc › Re: Reverend Jim Hogan Survives Accident That Claimed 6 Lives by MuttleyLaff: 2:56pm On Feb 04, 2020

AntiChristian:
You God is not merciful. Why can't He himslef come to die but left his son to come and die for the sins of the evil He created?

MuttleyLaff:
"Jesus said to them,
“If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God;
nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me."
- John 8:42

"Exerchomai" is the Greek original word translated as "proceeded forth". By definition, it means, to go or come out of, with mention of the place out of which one goes, or of the point from which one departs. John 8:42 above, makes no mistake, where from Jesus proceeded forth and came from.

AntiChristian, Jesus Christ is God and even god sef, just as I've earlier said and especially if that's how or a way Hairyrapunzel understands to put it.

No, I am not AntiChristian, implying that Jesus and God are the same entity, but I am emphatically saying that Jesus and God are the same entity.

AntiChristian, listen and watch this. I put on different attire colours to reflect my mood and image I am trying to project across. I could put on a red dress to make a statement that I am fiery, vibrant and lively. The colours are not me, they are images reflecting certain aspects of me. It's the same with God, the maleness and femaleness is not God, they are just constructs made in the image of God. God really isnt male nor female

We all know what kind of image one is projecting when wearing black colours, could be mourning or trying to look sexy

The "the only begotten" means the only person uniquely gotten this way. The phrase has nothing to do with God biologically giving birth to Jesus, as a mother, like women do.

AntiChristian, God is formless. God is a Spirit, and so has no form. God however does have masculine and feminine distinctive personalities plus characteristics associated with man and woman

Before you step and slip on my "God is formless" banana skin comment, let me make myself clearer with the comment, by adding to it, that God is shapeless and formless like water. When you pour water in a cup, it becomes the cup. When you pour water in a bottle, it becomes the bottle. When you pour water in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. When you pour water into a drum, it becomes the drum of water. That is why when Moses asked God who should he say sent him, if asked by the Israelites, God said to him, say, I AM I AM sent you.

I AM I AM, in that narrative, means I shall be that I shall be, also means whatever it is necessary for God to be, that, God will be. God willl be a pillar of cloud in the day and become a pillar of fire to give them light at night. God is formless, yet God can take on any form. I know it sounds like an oxymoron thing to say it that way, but God, though truly is formless, can manifest Himself in any form, just as in that Nebuchadnezzar fiery furnace and etcetera

Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really Anything God Can To Restore Leah Sheribu's Lost Years? by MuttleyLaff: 2:47pm On Feb 04, 2020

luvmijeje:
Which one is worst?

"Oo mọ mẹmẹ" loosely translated means "you dont know jackshit" The mother of all worst is yet to come. If God can watch His Son, Jesus suffer at the wicked hands of man and also die a gruesome death, then you can see this isnt anything personal.

luvmijeje:
The cruelty meted out to Christ or the one meted out to Leah Sharibu?

MuttleyLaff:
From the Bible, we read that whilst being lead to His death, Jesus was spat on. He was blindfolded, then repeatedly slapped and struck on the head. People along the street leading to Calvary, pulled out the hairs of His beard, as in, tear out or ripped out His beard from Him, as He walked by, carrying His cross.

The bible further, even said, Jesus was not just ordinarily beaten but that He was extraordinarily beaten up. He was beaten up beyond recognition such that those that looked at Him in this state, recoiled back, horrified with shock at His appearance, because He was so disfigured that He didnt at all resemble a human being anymore, as in, He hardly at all, looked like a human being after the grievous bodily harm assault (GBH) on Him. He fugly, literally was completely panel beaten up beyond ever being recognised to be a human being.

"¹⁰Blessed are those who are persecuted for doing what God approves of. The kingdom of heaven belongs to them.
¹¹"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you, lie, and say all kinds of evil things about you because of Me.
¹²Rejoice and be glad because you have a great reward in heaven!
The prophets who lived before you were persecuted in these ways."
- Matthew 5:10-12

Any and/or all guilty of meting out cruelty and/or harsh treatment to Leah Sharibu will get their comeuppance for treating such an innocent and young girl that way and in that manner. They will receive their deservedly just desserts and she her bountifully reward.

Now, it's important to know that suffering is transient and impermanent and that when you suffer, remember that God rewards you upon your patience and endurance, far more that the suffering you were allowed to go through and die from.

luvmijeje:
Put it at the back of your mind that in Christ's case, He was a willing participant.

Put it in the back of your mind and consider how many men did it take to introduce death and evil into the whole wide world and how many men is required to restore life, peace, tranquility, lovingkindness and goodness back into www, whole wide world, lol?

I am glad you acknowledge that our Lord and Saviour of the world, you and I inclusive, was a willing participant in the DIY God project.

Travel › Re: Okada, Keke Ban: MC Oluomo In Talks With Lagos Government by MuttleyLaff: 8:17am On Feb 04, 2020

Shibaraba:
Future governor

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Confusing information.
Its not computing. No visualisation of that, lol

Christianity Etc › Re: Why God Didn't Help Leah Sharibu! by MuttleyLaff: 7:55am On Feb 04, 2020*

frank317:
U guys keep on comparing the way we think with God's yet u want us to believe that God is supposedly almighty and his level of thinking is beyond us.
If u don't have answers to certain questions just say u don't know instead of trying to make us believe God thinks like ordinary human.

"⁹"If your child asks you for bread, would any of you give him a stone?
¹⁰Or if your child asks for a fish, would you give him a snake?
¹¹Even though you're evil, you know how to give good gifts to your children. So how much more will your Father in heaven give good things to those who ask him?"
- Matthew 7:9-11

That Matthew 7:9-11 above, as you can see, is one out of many examples, that shows, comparison with God, is a precedent set by our Lord and Saviour of the world Jesus Christ, get used to it and/or deal with it

frank317:
I can explain why a father might delay in intervening in a child's case and I am sure that even if I watch my child suffer in a kidnerppers hand jsut because I asked him not to go out at night will make me appear wicked.

U can't explain the reason why God will not step in at a particular time for Leah. What does God or Leah stand to gain from this delay?

I repeat, God, afterall didnt step in to prevent our Lord and Saviour of the world Jesus Christ from getting killed or put to death on. A sinless man, an innocent man unjustly sentenced to die.

How do you know God hasnt stepped in at a particular time "X" for Leah, hmm? Are you ominiscient? Are you privvy to every counsel? Do you know whats going on in my mind mind now?

I am not qualified to hold brief for God, and you yourself are smelling of roses either. You arent equipped to climb your moralising high ground, to start pontificating, cross-questioning and cross-examining God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Appropriated Responses To A Dumb Mutt by MuttleyLaff: 7:48am On Feb 04, 2020*

MuttleyLaff:
It actually at Victorian times, funnily enough appeared, as if it really did rain cats and dogs, lol. Anyways, its the penultimate truth and it is true that it rained cats and dogs when understood metaphorically.

I am glad to be of service to make you laugh milord, besides, its in the moniker ID, it comes with MuttleyLaff.

I wasnt making any point for you, rather I was making my own point that 4 decades after, which in fact is a generation, isnt really late in penning things down 2000 years ago.

I've taken on board your skepticism, so one word, just one to give you the answer. Conviction

"¹Many people have set out to write accounts about the events that have been fulfilled among us.
²They used the eyewitness reports circulating among us from the early disciples.
³Having carefully investigated everything from the beginning,
I also have decided to write an accurate account for you, most honorable Theophilus,
⁴so you can be certain of the truth of everything you were taught."
- Luke 1:1-4
Dr Luke who is been quoted in Luke 1:1-4 above, would have informed if he was telling tales metaphorically. Flavius Josephus, the first-century Jewish historian, in the book Antiquities of the Jews, made at least two references to Jesus of Nazareth

LordReed2nd, our Lord and Savior of the world, Jesus Christ regularly used metaphors to describe Himself and hardly explicitly say He is using metaphors, nonetheless, the disciples crystal clearly understood what was said with the metaphors, such as John 6:35's: "Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty."

LordReed2nd:
“Cats and dogs” may come from the Greek expression cata doxa, which means “contrary to experience or belief.” If it is raining cats and dogs, it is raining unusually or unbelievably hard. https://www.loc.gov/everyday-mysteries/item/what-is-the-origin-of-the-phrase-its-raining-cats-and-dogs/
It is clearly metaphorically and has no reality in it

Metaphors are figurative language, are hyperboles, similes and/or antithesis, used to provide clarity or exaggerated to emphasis and make a point, like in that case how heavy it rained last night. The reality in it, is that the rained and run up "cats and dogs" are the result of them getting drowned due to the Victoria times poor drainage problems

LordReed2nd:
When don't know this for the Jesus stories. Josephus mentioning Jesus does not validate the story as a real historical event because he mentions Jesus as someone people believed in. Also it is suspect some of what was written was snuck in by believers in Jesus because it does not follow Josephus' style of writing about people.

LordReed2nd:
You also can use the book to prove the book.

Thank you for your Freudian slip, lol. You're really at heart, kind and generous, lol.

LordReed2nd:
What you need to do is show how we can be sure what was written was an accurate account of the events that took place in the life of the man we call Jesus, if such a person actually lived and performed all the acts attributed to him.

Conviction is the barest minimum required to show how we can be sure what was written was an accurate account of the events that took place in the life of the man we call Jesus, if such a person actually lived and performed all the acts attributed to him. If you have it, you have it. If not, well c'est la vie.

LordReed2nd:
Yeah I guess the pun was unintended but it still works so I'll take it.

I am glad you take that I am influenced by conviction that all arent myth nestled in myth. Remember I earlier had said something about telling a joke hmm? When cracking a joke, it doesnt necessarily mean, the joke is devoid of some element of truth and reality in it, so it is with all this here we are discussing LordReed2nd.

Christianity Etc › Re: Appropriated Responses To A Dumb Mutt by MuttleyLaff: 7:38am On Feb 04, 2020*

budaatum:
You may appreciate all you like mutt but kiss your own arse! I don't fuq dimwits like you even if you paid.

Count yourself lucky you've got arse as a chance to kiss you self-aggrandizing jerk. Dumbo, read before you type gramps. I told you I cant kiss my arse, and by the way, I dont need your fuq, not now, not in this life and even not in another life

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by MuttleyLaff: 7:08am On Feb 04, 2020

blueAgent:
Sorry to say it, but this is the first time you are ever making sense.

I know, and its OK. What matters, is seeing the sense.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Appropriated Responses To A Dumb Mutt by MuttleyLaff: 7:04am On Feb 04, 2020

budaatum:
Seems you missed the sarcasm and condescension and abject contempt. Forgive me for not spelling it out to dumb you.
Sarcastically and condescendingly and with all the contempt possible, good morning mutt.

Now stop assuming buda is answerable to a dumb mutt like you and shove your beef where you like until you've learnt to use your brain!

There is one thing you can do, that I can't and that's to kiss my arse. budaatum, I'll appreaciate you get on your fours, to kiss my arse and lick with your tongue my anus clean, more than your sarcastically and condescendingly and with all the contempt possible, worthless Greek Trojan horse good morning greeting, lol.

Predictable dumb foxtrot uniform charlie kilo, lol angry

I repeat, what's wrong with "it is written in a book"

Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Really Anything God Can To Restore Leah Sheribu's Lost Years? by MuttleyLaff: 6:33am On Feb 04, 2020

luvmijeje:
He died on the cross. Did prayer stop his death?

He came to die, lol, what are you pathetically bleating about now, lol

luvmijeje:
Did it stop him from dying young?

To stop dying young was not His purpose
Not to die young is not the reason for why He came to earth and/or what He came to earth for.

luvmijeje:
Did it stop him for dying violently?

Dying violently is a cost He was willing to pay for you and I, all because He deemed us worthy to subject Himself to the worst of man's extreme cruelty and/or brutality.

luvmijeje:
Did it stop him from being betray by people close to him?

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So? What counts, is the end, and it justifies the means

luvmijeje:
If it didn't stop Him then where did you get all your teaching that prayer can stop evil.
Evil happened to us all. It just come in different colors and different shades. If you did't die now you will die later. You didn't now doesn't make you extraordinary. It only means you will die later.

"I tell you the truth, unless a kernel of wheat is planted in the soil and dies, it remains alone.
But its death will produce many new kernels—a plentiful harvest of new lives."
- John 12:24

"The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said,
“Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!"
- John 1:29

"¹⁷The reason the Father loves Me is that I lay down My life in order to take it up again.
¹⁸No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord.
I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again.
This charge I have received from My Father.” "
- John 10:17-18

"²⁵Jesus said unto her,
I AM The Resurrection and The Life
(i.e. I AM the one who brings people back to life, and I AM life itself)
he that believes in Me, though he is dead, yet shall he live;
²⁶Everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die--ever. Do you believe this?"
(i.e. And everyone who lives because of faith in Me will never really die. Do you believe this?)"
- John 11:25-26

1 Corinthians 1:27 states: "God chose things the world considers foolish in order to shame those who think they are wise. And he chose things that are powerless to shame those who are powerful." Praise God. Alleluia!

Christianity Etc › Re: Reverend Jim Hogan Survives Accident That Claimed 6 Lives by MuttleyLaff: 6:10am On Feb 04, 2020

AntiChristian:
Psalm of David a murderer and Adulterous coveter of someone's wife!
Nah!

Our Lord and Saviour of the world, Jesus Christ came to earth and died on the cross at Calvary/Golgotha, so David a murderer and adulterous coveter of someone's wife and the whole wide world, you including, can have a second chance at life.

Christianity Etc › Re: Appropriated Responses To A Dumb Mutt by MuttleyLaff: 5:33am On Feb 04, 2020*

budaatum:
[s]Here we go again. He will not read before he starts with his word diarrhea![/s]
I don't suppose you've ever heard of Porgy and Bess by George Gershwin (September 26, 1898 – July 11, 1937). It isn't exactly mainstream.
~~Good morning muttley.~~

MuttleyLaff:
Didnt by the way, perceive you as an opera going individual.
Anyway, Sportin' Life, is right about things you are likely to read in the Bible, arent necessarily what you believe them to be because Bible passages arent, as some would like to believe, necessarily monosemous

MuttleyLaff:
Do not forget, you can use a spear as a walking stick, but that will not change its true nature.
budaatum, I can already predict your next idiotic response so just save it.
I've heard all your yada yada nonsense before. Spare some space on the Nairaland servers' hard disk by not talking

I dont accept "Good morning" Greek trojan horses. I wouldnt trust your "Good morning" greeting, as far away as I possibly can throw it, so save it for some gullible other person or better still, shove it up yours angry

Yes, duh, there are stories of resurrection in the bible. I repeat budaatum, what's your beef, what's wrong with "it is written in a book"

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by MuttleyLaff: 5:12am On Feb 04, 2020

budaatum:
There is no proof anywhere that anyone resurrects, so how do either of you differ!

And please don't tell me proof is "it is written in a book" unless you don't mean "dead" and "ressurect" in the literal sense!

And before either of you respond, read this, but note OLAADEGBU's observation!

Even with "dead" and "ressurect" in the literal sense, what's wrong with "it is written in a book"

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by MuttleyLaff: 5:11am On Feb 04, 2020*

blueAgent:
There is no proof in the Bible for all this theory and guess work you wrote here.

"¹⁷The reason the Father loves Me is that I lay down My life in order to take it up again.
¹⁸No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord.
I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again.
This charge I have received from My Father.” "
- John 10:17-18

"²⁵Jesus said unto her,
I AM The Resurrection and The Life
(i.e. I AM the one who brings people back to life, and I AM life itself)
he that believes in Me, though he is dead, yet shall he live;
²⁶Everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die--ever. Do you believe this?"
(i.e. And everyone who lives because of faith in Me will never really die. Do you believe this?)"
- John 11:25-26

"¹²If we have told you that Christ has been brought back to life, how can some of you say that coming back from the dead is impossible?
¹³If the dead can't be brought back to life, then Christ hasn't come back to life.
¹⁴If Christ hasn't come back to life, our message has no meaning and your faith also has no meaning.
¹⁵In addition, we are obviously witnesses who lied about God because we testified that he brought Christ back to life. But if it's true that the dead don't come back to life, then God didn't bring Christ back to life.
¹⁶Certainly, if the dead don't come back to life, then Christ hasn't come back to life either.
¹⁷If Christ hasn't come back to life, your faith is worthless and sin still has you in its power.
¹⁸Then those who have died as believers in Christ no longer exist.
¹⁹If Christ is our hope in this life only, we deserve more pity than any other people.
²⁰But now Christ has come back from the dead. He is the very first person of those who have died to come back to life.
²¹Since a man brought death, a man also brought life back from death.
²²As everyone dies because of Adam, so also everyone will be made alive because of Christ.
²³This will happen to each person in his own turn. Christ is the first, then at His coming, those who belong to him [will be made alive].
²⁴Then the end will come. Christ will hand over the kingdom to God the Father as he destroys every ruler, authority, and power. "
- 1 Corinthians 15:12-24

First and foremost, for the above comment somebody give blueAgent a chilled bottle of orijin plus a truckload of kolanuts and make blueAgent governor of his/her state of origin

Now about the thread's heading and question. Why there is a resurrection, in simple terms, is because the resurrection of our Lord and Saviour of the world Jesus Christ plays a pivotal role in propping up our faith in and/or assurance of victory over death. The resurrection bears testament to John 10:17-18 seen above. It proves that the whole essence of Jesus Christ, is not some empty talk, and that the resurrection serves, as a typical example of walk-the-talk.

Maximus69:
I love the you use of that word,

THEORY!
And it's THEORIES that leads to PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS then BENEFITS follows immediately!

The only group having theories that's working are the Jehovah's Witnesses.

All what you typed up there are based on Credulity and the tradition of men that's why it's not working out what is beneficial in any religious group mimicking it!

All of you are saying heaven is your home because you are faithless and since you're going to die anyway you people console yourselves with the heavenly ideology, but what makes it obvious that you people have no FAITH, none of you can pick a specific date or time you'll like to go to heaven!

WHY?

Because you're enjoying life here on earth! Ecclesiastes 3:11 compared to Psalms 115:16

Keep deceiving yourself by following the faithless crowds whose form of doctrines is NOT YIELDING ANY FRUIT!

MuttleyLaff:
Biblical rear-view mirror will fix this problem and eliminate blind spots such as these

No it doesnt because Heaven is a necessary honeymoon, a trip to return back from, come down, back to earth to

No, because God is loyal to the truth, He cant lie.

Answer to this, is same with the honeymoon response given above

MuttleyLaff:
You're dead wrong, lol

"But the meek (i.e. the humble) will inherit the land (i.e. the earth)and enjoy peace and prosperity."
- Psalm 37:11

If you didnt know that Heaven, is a honeymoon trip, gone on and to return back from, come down and back to earth to, then you seriously are in dire need, to go on a speed/crash course, to learn on how to, on all levels, understandably read the Bible. C'mon now, you do know that after the honeymoon in heaven, everyone is coming back to earth, hmm or didnt cha know, lol?

MuttleyLaff:
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Nope sire, my dear Sir. Kingdom of heaven is not the same as heaven itself, besides I keep informing you that going to heaven is a honeymoon journey, that everyone is coming back down to earth, lol, after it

... we've now almost countless time being up this garden path. Who gold paved street anywhere epp? Heaven is a honeymoon journey for crying out loud. Everyone is coming back down to earth.

"¹Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the old heaven and the old earth had disappeared. And the sea was also gone.
²And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven like a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
³I heard a loud shout from the throne, saying, “Look, God’s home is now among his people! He will live with them, and they will be his people. God himself will be with them"
- Revelation 21:1-3

In light of Revelation 21:1-3 above, you still have the guts, to be proof-texting again, with you comparing Ecclesiastes 3:11 and Psalms 115:16 to make a quasi point with, hmm Maximus69

Christianity Etc › Re: Prophet TB Joshua Frowns Against Church Division by MuttleyLaff: 5:00am On Feb 04, 2020*

OLAADEGBU:
Fake posts without a source

Is that made available YouTube clip, not source enough, hmm?

OLAADEGBU:
Who is Angela, doesn't she have a surname?

She is Angela Brandt, a SCOAN Evangelist from California, America

OLAADEGBU:
Fake News everywhere.

Nothing new under the sun. Focus on the power of the message though, not the messenger! Remember, it's the message that's important, not the messenger. Dont focus on the finger, focus on what the finger is pointing out and/or pointing to

Christianity Etc › Re: Why God Didn't Help Leah Sharibu! by MuttleyLaff: 7:21am On Feb 03, 2020

Fortissimo502:
Maybe the same reason He "didn't help" the hundreds of thousands of babies aborted each day.
GOD IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EVIL THAT MAN DOES!

Gbam!

frank317:
Why did the help when he is needed is not the same as he is responsible.

Responsible or not, he can help, why did not just help?

Disconcerting as it may sound, why did He not just help, is because it is not everytime and/or everything God steps in, just the same way, it is not everytime or at eveything, that you as a father, steps in to help your son/daughter

God, afterall didnt step in to prevent our Lord and Saviour of the world Jesus Christ from getting killed or put to death

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