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MizMyColi:
Lol
Okay, google helps.
It's a book by Robert Greene.

Of course, not like he talks about smiling and laughing

I trawled the internet before asking you
because the one I found by Robert Greene and Joost Elffers which happened to have 48 laws had nothing in it about smiling,
so I thought I better ask you for the name behind the laws

MizMyColi:
I for one do not like the book because it seems manipulative

I found one or two of the laws objectionable due to their selfish mean streak cold and calculated undertones
but the rest I majorly agree with and without being aware of the laws have already been doing them

MizMyColi:
I have forgotten

I wanted to explore and find out what the rest 47 are

MizMyColi:
Yeah.
I do that a lot.

I smile and laugh without bothering whether I do it right or even overdo it.

There are actually people who strive to be politically correct with the way they express emotion.
I heard it's one of the 48 laws of power.
Olorun ma je

You know what Muttley is famous for, don't cha?
So, whats the name of person who posited the 48 Laws of Power?

NwanyiAwkaetiti:
Jesus talked about paradise, heaven more. See how this Op wants to misinform people

Dont mind him jaare

MizMyColi:
Muttleylaff
This is me right now

I know you've sussed and cracked one of the secrets to a longer life
A Smile is the sweetest thing you can say without opening your mouth.
Thank you

Mujtahida:
Yeah I am.
Hahahaha hahahaha @ prayed. I'm not a Catholic but I'm quite familiar with Catholicism.
I loved reading Jose Maria Escriva the founder of opus dei and Bishop Fulton Sheen.
Do you know these two incredible catholics?
Here's a link to Osho's books. You might want to be reading them at your own pace in a jejely fashion https://archive.org/details/BookOfSecretsTheWorldOfTantra

MizMyColi:
Lol @ jejely fashion.
You sabi.
To be honest, I was a Catholic, but didn't really dig it.
I was more a fan of pentecostalism.
I've heard of Opus Dei, Jose Maria Escriva, but not the Bishop you speak of.

Penterascalism is more appropriate

Mujtahida:
Fulton Sheen is one of the most sweetly expressive spiritual teachers of the Catholic Church.
He's late now though.
I would have become a Catholic ooo but I can't stand rituals and the adoration they give to Mary.

So what would you teach your child or children now that you've gone your own way as far as spiritual matters are concerned.

Wow, so you know Bishop Fulton Sheen too
Small world indeed it is
Bishop Fulton J Sheen is a GOAT.
Him usually donned in his black & purple cassock and white dog collar has got swagger and great panache
Fortunately God is denomination-agnostic, but yeah you cant watch Bishop Fulton Sheen and not be enthralled
When I used to watch TV, whenever he shows up, it was always a pleasure to listen to him

For me, the Bishop shares the GOAT podium with other giants like Myles Munroe
(i.e. a SME on anything that has to do with the Kingdom & Kingdom things)

A very good Bishop Fulton Sheen book, I can recommend, is: Three To Get Married
I picked up the books years ago from a second hand bookshop

It is from some of the insight I got from reading Bishop Fulton Sheen's "Three To Get Married" book
that made me on another Sarassin thread make the below remark and question to MizMyColi:

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I am baffled as well that anyone would be averse to something so pleasurable
and that's why I asked:
"Do you know why, the originator of climax, invented it
or why the mastermind behind orgasm, created it?"

It really would be lovely, you attempt answering that question

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but MizMyColi, suspicious of motives, as ever, ducked and dived the question

Mujtahida:
Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha.
You recall how the anal lady (pun intended) analysed me using my moniker accusing me of attacking Christians just after I quoted you

Visitors see NL IDs or handles, take them on face value and run forming preconceived ideas about them
The problem of having such opinion formed beforehand without adequate evidence,
is that, it can lead to the guilty, having very negative and supposition imagery about the NL ID or handle owners conjuring up,
this consequently then affect the behaviors of the guilty toward the particular NL ID or handle owners.

Mujtahida:
Well the name was given to me during my university days at the faculty of law in A. B. U Zaria.
We had to take elective courses in Islamic law and I was quite good then in Islamic law.
So my colleagues both Muslims and Christians began calling me mujtahida which means someone who is an authority in Islamic law.
Some call me mujta, some tahida even till date.
Thing though was that in the University I was a fervent Christian.
I only left Christianity two years ago. So coming to nairaland it was only natural that I use that name.

So I laugh when Christians read my moniker and dismiss me.

On the strength of his handle name choice, Sarassin, on a few number of ocassions , in the past has had to put up with the worst of scathing attacks too.

I earlier called you Mujta, without even knowing others too endearingly call you so

Mujtahida:
I wasn't just a church goer. I read about the Faith.
But ultimately what made me leave Christianity is the that I realised I was worshiping a fiction, a god who doesn't talk.
I discovered that the god who presides over Christianity is a Non - communicative God as in a wordless God different from the one who is highly expressive in the bible, talking to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Zerubabel etc (even the one in the bible is a fiction)

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Christianity is a scourge of the earth
a cause of wide and/or great affliction

So you craved for the God talking to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Zerubabel etc experience

Mujtahida:
I said to myself 'I cannot go on worshipping a God who is mute - thats an idol'.

³But our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases.
⁴Their idols are silver and gold, The work of man’s hands.
⁵They have mouths, but they cannot speak; They have eyes, but they cannot see;
⁶They have ears, but they cannot hear; They have noses, but they cannot smell;
⁷They have hands, but they cannot feel; They have feet, but they cannot walk; They cannot make a sound with their throat
- Psalm 115:3-7

Psalm 115:3-7 is having heathen idols contrasted with God

Mujtahida:
What made it pressing was that I really needed help, spiritual help on an issue in my life.
I prayed and prayed and prayed for up to six years. No answer. Just silence.

Silence is a good answer

Mujtahida:
The silence confused and broke me

He who does not understand silence, will probably not understand words
Silence speaks when words can't
A meaningful silence is always better than meaningless words
At times, nothing strengthens a relationship so much as silence does
Sometimes I just sit in company of others, and if with God, shut my eyes, say absolutely nothing and just enjoy the silence
I've come to learn to take advantage of silence, because sometimes its better than talking
as the quieter you become the more you can hear.

Mujtahida:
One day as I knelt down to pray I just said heck not again.

SILENT & LISTEN are spelled with the same letters
Can you hear your thoughts inside your head or are they silent?
The soul listens out to hear from your spirit
If the spirit is not tuned into a right wavelength though, then we'll have a signal problem and ultimately become despondent

Mujtahida:
But truth is even in my days of fervency Christianity never tuned into my soul

Why do think Christianity should tune into your soul?

Mujtahida:
(and yes I was born again, baptised with water and the holy Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues).
It always felt unnatural to me.
And I still think Christianity is the most unnatural of all the religions.

What made you say, you were "born again"?
What really is "born again"?
How did the "born again" originally come about?
Was the "born again" discourse accidental or something already on Jesus' "to do list" to preach about?
Its not surprising your "speaking in tongues" felt unnatural to you, as can bet my bottom dollar, it was nothing less than age-long babble anyway
Speaking in tongues, is not the only evidence of having the Holy Spirit.
Besides speaking in tongues, has its time and place since after the three original and/or primary reasons

Mujtahida:
Once you define God you have fallen into the trap of the religions.
Even Christianity doesn't define God. It only ascribes divine attributes to him.

hopefulLandlord:
This is so true, that's why Christians, when cornered, would define "god" in a way that a Muslim, Hindu, pastafarian etc can define theirs

Christians have tried to monopolize the common noun, "god" as if it refers specifically to the still very dead Jewish carpenter.
They play this wonderful game of bait and switch where they argue for the theoretical existence of "a god," (eg "god obviously designed the universe"
and then quietly slip in "their god" into the equation.
It's just more of those deceptive and dishonest "Christian values" we hear so much about

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hopefulLandlord describe the nouns God and whatever god(s) you somehow know about

Just do it, to the best of your effort and as if your life depends on it.
I don't want you to hold back.
Muster all your strength, squeeze out every drop and drop ounce.
I don't have a glass chin so be free to give me your best shot or jab.
Whatever you've read, whatever you've experienced, whatever you've sensed whatever you've learned, whatever you know, whatever you've come to realise.

This isn't a trick request.
and I don't buy it is something difficult to do

There are no rules, hence the departure from defining or definition
Just tell me about the nouns; God and god(s)
I'll like to see examples and or illustrations being part of your narrative.

Mujtahida:
The Abrahamic religions promote a dominant solitary God exclusive to its adherents in contrast to the tolerance of the polytheistic religions. Someone said that Indian polytheism with its many gods never knew a religious war for thousands of years. But now fundamentalism has crept into Hinduism in reaction to Islam.
It's not for nothing that the Abrahamic religions have fought so many wars- their histories is filled with carnage, pillage and bloodletting. Exclusivity over such a 'precious thing as God' is bound to cause enmity, rivalry, the desire to impose and control, resistance and eventually war.

But the adherents of this religions rarely look outside their religions. Christians do not know that so called miracles exists in other religions or even if they do they ascribe it to the devil.
They do not know that speaking in tongues predated Pentecost and was well known in the ancient world as glossalia

And when you pray, do not babble on like pagans, for they think that by their many words they will be heard.
- Matthew 6:7

I am not holding brief for Christians
however it has to be said, that what was practiced in the ancient world which is glossalia did predate the occurrence of speaking in tongues that happened on Pentecost day
Christians did not only hijack glossalia but took ownership of it, to pass as speaking in tongues
The sad thing is, the one thing warned against, as seen in Matthew 6:7 above, is exactly just what Christians have taken a shine and delight to

Mujtahida:
they do not know that even without Christ Buddhist monks have an ineffable sense of place and tranquillity which many Christians as 'children of God' do not have even with all their prayers and fasting.
Below are some of the most popular pictures in the world :
A young Buddhist monk burned himself to death in Saigon's Market Square, to protest the government's religious policies in 1963.
He sat down in the famous lotus position without flinching one bit, without uttering so much as even a whimper as the flames grind his body to ashes. Amazingly his heart was not burnt. it was intact.
Isn't that miraculous? What deep peace and fortitude. Away with the lies of exclusivity.
I'm sure if any people or group claims that the sun belongs to them we'd laugh them to scorn,
so also should we treat any religion that lays exclusive claims on God.

Are you familiar with, ever heard or read about Wim Hof?

Mujtahida:
Then I'd say God is the isness, the hereness, the allness for us, with us, in us, unknown, unknowable.

Flowery.
There is nothing so fatal to character as half tasks
You left out the other part about god(s)

MizMyColi:
I don't know about gods biko.
Hian.

The one I thought I know, I am still coming to terms with,
and you are asking me about other gods, biko I don't know.

To each his own.

It's alright, I think it’s beautiful all you wrote about God

What good are wings without the courage to fly
Dont worry, it's not really hard or difficult to talk about or describe god(s)
It is a reality there is God and "to each his own" god(s)

MizMyColi:
Okay Muttleylaff.

I see it's no longer define, but now describe.

Ehn ehn

Let me see if I can coin a description.

I have to add though...
This description....it is nothing compared to what divinity really is. In shot I dunno.
But let me try.

When I think of God...Father I prefer.

I think of a being who is filled with nothing short of love in its truest, purest sense. (Even I cannot fully grasp the depth of this statement).

I think of a being who is filled with indescribable power, ernomous awesomeness, and magnificence; Light, pure, light. (Bible might have influenced this thinking)

I also picture him and myself as royalty.
So powerful a being, but when we are together, it's like he just ordinary, like a loving father who dotes on his carefree girl child.

I'm aware how soooo powerful he is, yet, he relates to me like an ordinary person...more like bringing himself to my level while maintaining all that load of awesomeness.

When I seek to reconnect or realign with divinity within..
I feel this powerful wave of calm, of quiet strength, deep love, compassion, joy, laughter, glowing eyes, sometimes it gets ticklish as well, I feel full of power, like there's nothing that's impossible.

Mehn, it's real, it's alive.
phew!!

I should stop here.

Now, you tell me about yours.

Not so fast Jose with half done work
Describe the nouns God and god(s)
with god(s), as in, being all you understand a god to be

PS: Me like. It's interesting all you wrote about God.
Can't wait to read what you'll pen about god(s)

Mujtahida:
Okay describe is better than define.
But even that would be difficult for me except you want me to describe what I have read about God because personally I have no experience of God such that I can describe him.

Mujta', that's cool by me.
Just do it, to the best of your effort and as if your life depends on it.
I don't want you to hold back.
Muster all your strength, squeeze out every drop and drop ounce.
I don't have a glass chin so be free to give me your best shot or jab.
Whatever you've read, whatever you've experienced, whatever you've sensed whatever you've learned, whatever you know, whatever you've come to realise.

This isn't a trick request.
and I don't buy it is something difficult to do

There are no rules, hence the departure from defining or definition
Just tell me about the nouns; God and god(s)
I'll like to see examples and or illustrations being part of your narrative.

Eldavis:
Lol hmm ohk bro tnks

Some of the next questions you should deeply and thoroughly be thinking about are:
1) How many times did incidents of speaking in tongues happen in the bible?
2) Why was there the need for this phenomenon to occur on each of those occasions in #1 above
3) What was the primary and core objective of it?
4) Are there any noticeable underlining common denominators in each and all instances?

MizMyColi:
I taya o o.

I see myself as an extension, a part of this divinity, God if you may, which humanity has tried so much to decipher. It is why I can proclaim that as he is, so am I.....it's more of a desire. Something I am, but still wish to attain. Is that a paradox or an irony?

I recognize a discourse whose inherent motive is to box me in a corner, and I treat for what it is.

How can you ask me to define someone abi is it something I am no longer sure exists in the way I was taught.

Would that not be akin to playing to a gallery or even deceiving myself?

I don't know, but I wish to know...or re-know, perhaps un-know, then know.

Honestly, when you finally, or let me say, when you begin to let go of dogmatic understanding, it tends to get upsetting.

It"s like you become an angry bird (which is what I suspect I am now)

You become that way because there is no anchor of sorts anymore.

And until you find some calm, and deliberately breathe in and out, thereby going within, and connecting with the very essence of your life in some kind of middle point, then you might continue to feel that unrest, which may later morph into aloofness.

As much as I like defining things and having answers, there are just somethings that are beyond me at the moment, and I kinda like it.

It makes me aspire, y'know, like wanting to reach out for more.

What am I even saying

I did smell that miles away.
That isn't my style, that isn't my modus operandi
It's just my way to find out where you've come from and to gauge where you are

You are an extension of the Godhood, you are part of the Godhood.
Wish you could see me. You get me excited when you keep making remarks like those which are so so true

Mujtahida:
Once you define God you have fallen into the trap of the religions. Even Christianity doesn't define God.
It only ascribes divine attributes to him

I disconcur with the post.
I have learnt to rephrase "define" to say "describe"

The only religion seen as true and faultless has nothing to do with rituals, nothing to do with.

Wasn't at all asking about a Christian perspective of God
I was asking of what a MizMyColi or a Mujtahida of this world has got to know thinks, figured out, grasped what God is and what god(s) are

Having divine attributes ascribed unto, is not a monopoly nor something God only enjoys

MizMyColi:
No, it is you who still don't get.
I do not wish to define something which outside of me, is totally beyond me, I prefer to live it as the mystery that it is.

Bah. Okedokes.
How about describe God and all or whatever god(s) you've come to know.
Give an exhaustive description in whichever manner and in line with your understanding

MizMyColi:
Just so we are clear
Which God do you refer to.
Which is it that you want me to define.

Whichever you know, whichever you've heard about, whichever you sense, whichever you're aware of, whichever you search to know more of

MizMyColi:
I beg to differ, but, So?

I don't know.
Only you know the real reason why you really parried a simple and harmless question

MizMyColi:
I don't know.

Fair enough
Thought you had an idea what God and gods are

MizMyColi:
I am not interested.

Suit yourself

MizMyColi:
That is all you should know from me about this discourse

Charming. Aint that just charming
As I earlier said, you are so on point with that remark because I, each of us, just like you, are all a part of God
and at the suck in of that last breathe, each one of the part returns and go back to God.

MizMyColi:
There is a difference between "can" and "will"

Difference between "can" and "will"?
Where from are you springing that on me?

Eldavis:
Oooh…. Ohk I get your point bro I used too tink speaking in tongues (difft languages like in acts 2) was difft frm speaking in a heavenly language (asin a language dat we humans dnt knw d origin or source or tribe) were 2 dift tinz….

If I speak with the languages of men and of angels,
but don't have love, I have become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal
- 1 Corinthians 13:1
The crux of 1 Corinthians 13:1 wasn't about implying heavenly language but just to show that IF anyone happens to per adventure speak the language of angel but is devoid of love, then what benefit or use is such language which becomes nothing else than noise

IF, is a conditional clause, it is a supposition. It doesn't necessarily mean the IF subject does or doesn't exist.

Eldavis:
Ohk I want too ask dis jux to get more understanding
Ohk for example an igbo man begans prophesying in hausa or urhobo etc, dat can also be called in tongues rite?

Absolutely brother, that's exactly it in one.

What is the meaning of those graphic highway automobile crashes in your first attached picture?

MizMyColi:
Hi Muttleylaff,

This is what you don't get.
I can not define God.
I have not seen God.
I am not sure that God exists in such a manner as to warrant a definition.

But I exist.
I see myself for who I really am.
You can ask me to define myself and I would painstakingly do that. I would do a dissertation if need be.

This is what, YOU, dont get
I can list you a thousand and one things I have never seen, but still can define each according to my understanding
I can list you a thousand of one things I am not sure that exists but still can define each according to my understanding

I am not interested in you defining who you are?
As if I dont know you havent physically seen God
Make an attempt, try, just do it like Nike

Also you are oversensitive, selective and defensive in your response
Recall I specifically asked about God and god(s), (i.e. as many of the gods you're knowledgeable about)

God and god(s), by definition, exists in such manners, as to warrant articulating their definitions

MizMyColi:
Why?
My only personal, realest evidence of God is me.

This remark is true and so on point
but unfortunately marred because the remark doesnt proffer me an exhaustive "dissertation" definition of God and god(s) I asked you

MizMyColi:
"When you say 'God' you are using a noun, something static, dead.
When I say 'godliness' I am using a word for something alive, flowing, moving. So these points have to be clear to you.
I am not a theist like Jesus or Mohammed or Krishna, because I cannot agree with a dead god.
God -- perfect, absolute, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent; these are the words used for
God by all the religions -- is dead, cannot be alive, cannot breathe. No, I reject such a god,
because with such a dead god, this whole universe will be dead.

Godliness is a totally different dimension.
Then the greenness in the tree, then the flowering ofvthe rose, then the bird in flight -- all are part of it.
Then God is not separate from the universe.
Then he is the very soul of the universe. Then the universe is vibrating, pulsating, breathing... godliness."
- Preface Excerpt The God Conspiracy by OSHO

Is this why I have found it so somehow to call God and talk about God the way most people do?

Is this why I have found it difficult accepting God, as in the way I was thought to accept God, and even then....

I can't totally rule out his existence,
nonetheless knowing within me there is something fundamentally wrong with my subconscious' overall image of God?

My head.
Ori mi o!!!

What have I gotten myself into bikonum?

MizMyColi, hi top of the day to you ma'am
Permit me this venturesome proposal,
without holding back, define God and god(s) for me, with the full force of all your understanding.

Please convincingly define God and god(s).
Exhaustively and to the best of your understanding do this for me please
In a thorough manner, define God and god(s) to a large and detailed degree.
Do it without holding back, give all your definitions, examples and/or explanations, like as if your life depended on it.

Your exhaustive examples and definition of the nouns, God and gods, is of the most interest to me

karllemah44:
Good day nairalanders, I have an issue which I want you to help address.
Earlier today daddy freeze made me to understand that women are forbidden to speak in churches (1 cor 14: 34-35).

As a novice that I am I went to a cousin who is also a pastor to explain why women now speak in churches
but his argument was not convincing so I pressed further and he became slightly angry (he's way older) so I had to quit it.

Here I am, I want someone to kindly help me with a concrete explanation I'm really confused here... thanks and God bless

What were the explanation(s) your cousin gave you that werent convincing about why women speak or now speak in churches?

Seun:
1 Corinthians 14:34-35 (written by ‘Apostle’ Paul)
“Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.”

1 Timothy 2:12-14 (also written by ‘Apostle’ Paul)
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. ”

My interpretation: ‘Apostle’ Paul didn’t believe that women should be allowed to speak in church or to lead men. He was a fervent Jew before his conversion and Jews don’t allow women to speak in the synagogue either, so he just carried his misogynistic views into the new religion.

If you believe that the words of ‘Apostle’ Paul are the words of God, then certainly, God doesn’t want women to speak or lead men in church.

My brother, if you really know what church means, you would mistakenly be saying God doesn’t want women to speak or lead men in church

Does the matriarch of your family not speak at home or when out and about with your patriach?
Has the matriarch of your family never led the patriach at home or when out and about with him?
Does the matriarch not lead men in praise and worship songs during fellowship gathering?
Doubt the matriarch opts to mumbling in situation like that or similar

Seun:
Paul never actually met Jesus. He was not one of the twelve disciples.
He was not Simon Peter, the rock upon which Jesus promised to build his church according to the gospels.
Yet his writings and ideas have come to dominate Christianity.
His words are seen as God's words. Wow.

I tell you that you are Peter,
and it is on this rock that I will build my congregation {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones}, and the powers of hell will not conquer it.
- Matthew 16:18

My brother, Jesus did promise to build on Simon Peter, the rock, but to build on petra

The name Peter originally comes from the Greek word Petros, it means rock and is a masculine noun
Now Jesus in Matthew 16:18, DIDNT say He will build His ekklesia on petros but instead said He will build His ekklesia on petra
Petra is another Greek word for rock but it is a feminine noun

Jesus never built His ekklesia on Simon Peter, the Rock or Petros
but rather built His ekklesia on the rock (i.e. on petra and not on Petros),
Petra is the divine revelation and explicit statement blurted out by Peter about who Jesus Christ is

It is just a clever use of wordplay by Jesus that goes unnoticed by untrained eyes

Eldavis:
Jesus didnt speak in tongues oooo…..

If Jesus didnt speak in tongues then
Then how did He communicate?
You're not suggesting it was with sign language, are you now?

Eldavis:
It was afta he left n he sent d holy spirit den the disciples started speaking..

⁵But there were men dwelling in Jerusalem who were worshipers of God, Jews from every nation under Heaven.
⁶And when that noise occurred, the entire populace gathered and was agitated,
because each one of them heard that they were speaking in their dialects
⁷And they were all marveling and were amazed as they were saying, each to the other,
"Are not all these who are speaking Galileans?"*
⁸"How are we hearing, everyone, his own dialect in which we were born?"
- Acts 2:5-8

Notice the disciples were speaking recognisable spoken words,
and the speech or manner of speaking was understandable
The dialecs heard spoken of the day were:
1) those of the Parthians and Medes and Elanites,
2) people from Mesopotamia, Judea, Cappadocia, Pontus, the province of Asia,
3) people Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the districts of Libya around Cyrene,
and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes,
4) Cretans, and Arabs

Eldavis:
No he didnt

No he didnt what?

BlackEl:
I've been deeply thinking about how this Godly love is in relation to us working as Christians.
I'll like to know when I can call love, or how I can call love

Ancient Greek has at least seven types of love, of which agape is one of them
How many types of love are there in your native language?

frosbel2:
really!

Have you not had the epiphany?

HeyCorleone:
You said God can't dwell in Freeze because he's a sinner. Are your pastors saints? Even the Pope acknowledges he's a sinner. We are all sinners. Why? Because we're mortal men. So that was very wrong of you to say
Thought I agree with your subject matter. Freeze's latest attack was quite otiose. The scriptural backing he gave had nothing to do with the matter that was at hand. The matter was on indecent dressing, he's talking about female pastors. Please where is the correlation.
I won't lie I have been supporting Freeze since he started the whole #FreeTheSheeple thing
but he's latest attack was very irrelevant and shows he's derailed from what he originally set out to do.

You're on to something there, Freeze is inexperienced and I think he learns as he goes along
You're right that in wanting to exact revenge and inflict serious injury, he rashly turned to using an irrelevant counter attack along with comical scripture just like those on his opposite fence do when trying to defend their entitlement to eccelessical monitised tithe of finance.

He should have just come out saying he is comfortable with his missus' dressing,
that he has no problems with how or the way she dresses in private or public

He should have chosen to highlight the instance of women not to speak in congregation etcetera on a separate occasion and have done it in a retaliatory manner

Freeze will become a better man now that he is aware he is now under watch of prying eyes, ready to pounce and hold him accountable for whatever his sin(s) may be

PastorAIO:
So I assume most of us never see woman wey expose breast for our respective villages.

For someone to be wearing something seductive the on looker must be feeling seduced by what he is seeing.

The thing tire me
It's things like this that a fault finder will delight in nose diving to

frosbel2:
Christianity has caused much pain and suffering throughout the ages. Christian superstition stomped out hundreds of years of progress in medicine and the sciences which in turn caused the suffering and early deaths of millions of innocent people. Not only did Christianity cause these atrocities, it literally imprisoned thousands of people who dared to engage their gift from God of reason. People like Galileo had to renounce God's reality and profess Christianity's errors as truth in order to save his life, while the Church burned alive thousands more people who decided truth was more important than their own lives. In this class is Giordano Bruno who was tortured over a seven year period and then finally burned alive by the ignorant Christians in 1600.

We know through history the terror that awaits us if Christianity triumphs over reason. It's vitally important for Theists , Deists and free thinkers to obliterate Christianity, and all "revealed" religions, as soon as possible. The only way to do this is to use our God-given reason and the free exchange of ideas. We can't, nor should we want to, force people to abandon Christianity and the "revealed" religions, we can only let them know how empty and ludicrous those religions really are while letting them know there is a very satisfying God friendly and reason friendly alternative available to them.

The Bible gives us a tremendous tool to make it clear to honest and sincere people everywhere that Christianity is a fraud. Mark 16:18 clearly lists the signs of a Christian as, "They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." There is no qualification put on having these powerful abilities. Mark 16:17 clearly states, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; . . ." According to this Bible promise, anyone who believes in the Gospels and Jesus will be able to, among other things, ". . . drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."!

As Theists and Deists we have an obligation to demand that Christians perform these Biblical promises. These Bible passages are a type of contract between the Christian god of Jesus with anyone who believes in Jesus. Jesus has an obligation to uphold his part of the contract! If Christians can't do as Jesus promised, Christians owe it to themselves and their families and to God to reject Christianity. If a Christian goes to a hospital and lays hands on a person dying from, and in the last stages of, cancer and that person is not healed, then Christianity is a fraud. The Christian Jesus has broken his promise! Likewise, if Pat Robertson won't drink a glass full of poison that a Theist , Deist or a free thinker has prepared for him, then Pat, or any other Christian leader who won't complete the Gospel based test, is not a true Christian. If they drink it and die, then Christianity is proven false, or at least the person who died and who was considered by millions of faithful to be a true Christian leader would have to be looked upon as a fraud. If they drink it and are not harmed by it then this Christian promise is valid and Christianity is greatly advanced.

An example of this failed Christian Jesus and his empty promises is evangelist Winkie Pratney. Winkie is a friend of evangelist Pat Robertson. Not long ago Winkie suffered a heart attack. What happened to Winkie? Did his Christian family lay hands on him according to the teachings of the Gospel? No, they rushed him to a hospital! Winkie was so bad the doctors induced a coma and only now are they taking him out of it. So much for empty meaningless and misleading New Testament promises! (And don't forget, when leading Christians like Billy Graham, Pat Robertson (pictured above in doctor's office) and John Hagee get sick, they immediately go for the most advanced medical care their millions of dollars can buy! They don't waste their time with prayer and laying on of hands!)

It's time for all Theist, Deists and Free Thinkers to stop pulling punches! We need to show Christians and the world that Christianity is nothing but superstitions and myth, that not even Christian leaders rely on it in their own personal lives! Since this is a reality, it's also a reality that Christianity can't bring us any closer to God. How can we expect to get closer to God and to learn more about God by chasing after such empty meaningless dribble?? The only way people can get closer to God is to embrace their God-given gift of reason and exploit it to the fullest! This is what Deism is about!

[Edited] Version from Frosbel

Christian just like nigger, is not a word anyone in the know, dutifully calls themselves

Oricha62:
Quote from bible not from your head.

Originakalokalo:
We have exchanged ideas enough.
Let everyone believes what he believes.

We are done here

It wouldn't even have mattered if you didn't quote from head brother.
Chap's mind is closed and made up

Oricha62:
Jesus is a messenger and prophet of God

Jesus is a messenger a prophet of God and much more

Oricha62:
Jesus never called himself God

Jesus never denied He is God

Oricha62:
neither does he ask his followers to worship him and pray in his name

Jesus never refused His followers to worship him and pray in His name

Oricha62:
It is Christian that called him God

The Jews answered Jesus,
"We're going to stone you to death, not for any good things you've done, but for dishonoring God.
You claim to be God, although you're only a man."
- John 10:33

Jesus never argued He isnt God when the Jews accused Him being God

Oricha62:
Please give to me prove in the bible where Jesus called himself God?

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
- John 1:1

God said to Moses,
"I AM WHO I AM";
and He said, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'"
- Exodus 3:14

Jesus told them,
"Truly, I tell all of you emphatically, before there was an Abraham, I AM!"
- John 8:58

Join the dots, dont break a leg though

Oricha62:
And also where he command his followers to worship him and pray in his name?

You can ask for anything in my name, and I will do it, so that the Son can bring glory to the Father.
- John 14:13

Jesus never drove away or shooed off the many that at one time or the other ocassion worshipped Him

Oricha62:
Answer my question, give evidence from your Bible.

The ones you have you cant deal with them mayne

sonmvayina:
Numbers 23:19

Please tell, if that is before or after the?