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Ranchhoddas:
There should be a moratorium on creation of tithing threads.

I guess it's the tithing season,
and that's why you're seeing the good,
the rotten bad and the ugly tithing threads dropping now and then

Empiree:
...Yes, i am laughing bcus christendom is a joke in nigeria and the WESTERN WORLD.
They copied tithing and luxury from their boss in the West.

You haven't said anything new that I haven't already insinuated and said in my earlier post when I mentioned Idahosa, TBN, Oyakhilome and Oyedepo though I left out mentioning Osborne (i.e Idahosa's American padi)

Empiree:
That doesnt mean you had to edit my post

You must be having a laugh.
Are you kidding me?
No, I think you're just messing about and can't be serious.
Or are you? Are you for real?

If you are, then you're one of those guilty of repeating long posts and letting people be scrolling down a lengthy repeat of what they've already read.

Tell me how I edited your post?
Your post was truncated, to save others time from the hassle of scrolling down

I left what was related to the gripe I have with the post. Pfft. SMH.

Empiree:
Copied This. Someone Dropped This

Idahosa bequeathed something to us! But we have, and we are BEQUEATHING MATERIALISM to those coming after us!

Now God is using the MUCH YOUNGER ONES to chastise us (those the age of our very children) and yet you still can't see God at work!

I WARN YOU TODAY! Cleanse this MESS that you've caused! Otherwise, get SWEPT OFF when God begins to use others to CLEANSE IT!

I've said ENOUGH FOR NOW!

I was nodding in agreement to every section of this post, and about giving it a "like"
but the Idahosa bit just scuppered it.

Idahosa was the person that introduced prosperity gospel to Naija with the help of his
connections with TBN, Benny Hinn etcetera

Idahosa believed in ecclesiastical tithes, taxed, obligatory, mandatory or specified 10% of financial income or money.

He taught others that making defaults in paying will invite curses, calamity, disaster or misfortune etcetera.

Chris Oyakhilome, Oyedepo are prodigies of Idahosa.
The apple sure doesn't fall far from the tree

Allta:
May I humbly add that those that tithe are supposed to eat their tithes, spend their tithe money alongside those who needs help most.

And for you guys who don’t agree with me, I beseech you tonstudy Deut 14 with patience

petra1:
You got it wrong.
That’s a different 10%.
It’s not the tithe given to God. Read

Leviticus 27:30
And all the tithe of the land,
whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's:
it is holy unto the Lord.

Petra1 read the bolded in your above referenced bible verse to see it is tithe given to God.

That tithe, which along with most other mandatory and obligatory tithes, is God's
and all the tenths are set apart for God
(i.e. it's holy unto the Owner or Lord)

God determined, how each tithes, which originally are His, are dispersed

Daeylar:
Ah the Nigerian method at work,
Insult the person when you can't handle the argument,
I don't entertain such.
Evasion tactics won't work

Here was I thinking you were innocently ignorant
but little did I know, you stereotype Nigerians, insult Nigerians, and that you're prejudiced towards them too

Daeylar:
What is written in those verses?
What did you write? Now reconcile both.

SMH, maybe I am singing from a different hymm-sheet that yours, as I don't see any of those verses stating that God created homosexuals

Daeylar:
I'm glad you know it was irrelevant.

It's a valid relevant question. Why did God create homosexuals?

Daeylar, reiterating, exactly my texts are not in yellow.
Why arent they yellow?
It is because I didnt create my texts in color yellow
It might come out yellow due to some external means, but it certainly wasnt done yellow by me

The relevance of my question is:
I just asked you an invalid question right up there,
just like you did about why did God create homosexuals, to show you how irrelevant your question is

Daeylar:
I deal with facts,
Show me where God did not create homosexuals

I already told you that God created human beings and not homosexuals.

Daeylar:
When you're ready to deal with facts and argue without throwing insults just because you lost the argument,
you can come back.

Please kindly show when, where and how insults were thrown at you,
otherwise retract your accusations
and spare me your drama or tantrums

Daeylar:
Oooooooooooowieee. Damn

Are you denying your God now?
"Colossians 1:16 - For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

Isaiah 42:5 - Thus says God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which comes out of it; he that gives breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein

Is this not from your Bible?

You sound like someone trying to read a music sheet
but you havent a clue how to read music, talkless understand it

Daeylar:
What is the relevance of this question?
And they are not yellow

Exactly they are not in yellow.
Why arent they yellow?
It is because I didnt create my text in color yellow
It might come out yellow by some external means, but it certainly wasnt done yellow by me

The relevance of the question is:
I just asked you an invalid question right up there,
just like you did about why did God create homosexuals, to show you how irrelevant your question is

Daeylar:
It becomes a sick twisted game when he says he hates homosexuality and they would all burn in hell,
but them keeps creating them knowing quite well that they will burn in hell since
1) he created them and made the rules which makes homosexuality evil.
2) he is ominieverything. (never forget)

Again young blood, God did not create homosexuals

Daeylar:
Don't worry I got it now.

You have got nada

Daeylar:
They've still not answered me on why their God would create homosexuals
(since he doesn't like them and he is the creator of everything)
who he knows (since he is ominieverything and can see the future)
would struggle through life and would eventually end up in hell

You've asked an invalid question
because God did not create homosexuals

Why not try answering this question below:
Why are all my texts in this post in color yellow?

Daeylar:
Seems like god is just using us for his pleasure.
Like a sick twisted game

We are all created for His pleasure, never like a sick twisted game

hopefulLandlord:
I mean those are the stages used for "good" things too, OP just used examples of things he doesn't like as example but let's switch the example to something else, like slavery or (to avoid arguments) Killing of twins; I visit a society where they kill twins and see it as good and I want them to stop it......

The SHOCKER- I tell them "It is totally wrong to kill twins! They're humans like us!!"

The OUTRAGE stage - HopefulLandlord would be demonized and abused by the bewildered public for going against what their "Oracle" laid out for them as instructions on what to do with twins

The DISCUSSION stage - People start slamming non killing of twins and giving their good (albeit weak) arguments for killing twins while having most (read:all) their points debunked by me, I would always visit the shrines where these children are killed to argue and encourage people to do the same, This is the stage at which science kicks in to ‘prove’ that Twins are just like everyone else

The TOLERANCE stage - people will start saying “I am not going to let any twin grow up in my own family but if anyone else chooses to do the opposite, shauri yake (that’s his problem). Others will say: “Who cares what people do with their own life?”

The ACCEPTANCE stage - This is the part where letting twins live like everyone else becomes an alternative way of life, I've gathered enough following and we've coined the term "TWINOPHOBIA" to describe those that are still following the Oracle's instructions on killing of twins; I try to get lawmakers into making a law against killing of twins without the consent of their parents

The VENERATION stage - This is the stage at which the people who do not practice killing of twins are praised. The liberalist media (which includes almost all international channels) subtly promotes them as ‘cool’, intelligent, exposed. That’s the stage at which celebrities ‘come out’ to reveal that they are ‘proud not to be killing twins

In the 21st century modern age, the stages are ALL first with the "subliminal message" agenda.

Say for example, if the principal agenda is to make bestiality, as in having sex with animals, socially acceptable,
then you'll find that the powers to be in the media, will start pushing to show advertisements on TV channels' programmes' break human beings and animals performing the act together.

This will be introduced in short and subtle ways, so the SHOCKER and OUTRAGE stages' threshold or mark are not overstepped

Now because of/through the subliminal messages sent, seen, heard or watched through commercials, movies, billboard adverts, people subconsciously get used to the idea,
after subconsciously gotten introduced to the idea, then possibly start to openly discuss it, next possibly tolerate it, then possibly accept it, before possibly and ultimately venerate those that practice it, as it has come to stay and is the "it thing" to do

bennyann:
My people, my people, is this true?

Oga Seun, this is a discussion you and your sons shouldn't run away from. Because nairaland is one of the greatest tools making obvious the truth in the OP.
So, What's your say?

Analice107 please I need your speech here. Ishilove, Pidgin2, An2elect2, Muafrika2, MsNgo40... Anything you wanna share on this?
I actually got it as a Whatsapp message.

hopefulLandlord:
These are also stages of Social Reformation

The "subliminal message" stage is in the forefront of all in that OP list

petra1:
I'm not comfortable with certain term you and some others use. Such as mandatory, coerced, forced tithes etc

No matter how uncomfortable it makes you feel, a spade has to be called a spade, don't you think

petra1:
We are talking about relevance of tithe
If I may say "THEOLOGICALLY

This is the point Petra1, tithe is no longer relevant.
It especially and totally lost its relevance after the temple got destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD

petra1:
The issue of communication is different.
We all have freewill.
No body can force another person to do what he is not convinced about.
A man can teach on the importance of tithe just as he can teach on the importance of fasting.
Does that mean he is coercing people?.
It's left to individuals to Tithe, fast, win souls, pray etc.

Ah, like you don't know the power of manipulation, power of feeding off others ignorance, the power of playing on their fears and the power of capitalising on their innocent greed

Can a person who doesn't give a specified and regular 10% be a member of your "church"?
Can a person who doesn't give a specified and regular 10% be a pastor, deacon, choir leader, minister, usher etcetera in your "church"?

petra1:
I quote them out.

but not very well or correctly though

petra1:
Every man to his conviction

No not every man to his own conviction
but every man according to how God has made possible for man to make the decision all by himself, whether to give or not give

petra1:
I divide the money that i make with the time

You said:
Tithe is simply 10% of what God has blessed you
and continued to give an example of giving a car for tithe, because you had 10 cars

so I replied, I know you're familiar with the phrase:
"Time is money"
Do you tithe your time too?
Do you divide your time into tenths when carrying out Kingdom purposes?

I think you can now see how ridiculous, it sounds, saying, tithe simply is 10% of what God has blessed you with

petra1:
I don't subscribe to your obligatory term.
Is prayer a necessity or obligatory

Does your "church" ostracise or deny any of your "church" members, privileges like "church" posts, declining to officiate at their marriage, death or birth naming ceremonies because they don't pray?
What about if they don't give or pay tithes?

You see, prayers and tithes are apples and oranges
They are not in this context, comparable Petra1

petra1:
Enlighten us

Arent you a teacher of the word
Should you not already know what the new law is?
C'mon do the hard lifting yourself
Do the work yourself, just be careful not to pull a muscle

...

felixomor:
I already answered that
Read the previous comment..
Thank u

You're correct brother that you've already given an answer albeit it wasn't to his question.

I saw it after I had submitted my post and going through the earlier posts on the thread.

I will address the meaning you put up there.
I will use it, for my reference to counter post against, since you are shy to repeat it

rejosom:
Let me get this clear Sir,
What is the biblical meaning of tithe?
Sir, let us be honest here, you never said 'when you give a church in need', you said 'when you give a church'. I am saying that the determining factor is 'need'... they gave Paul because he was in need.. not because he was a bible believing church. Let us preach the bible truth and not turn things upside down

felixomor:
Oh so which church is in need and which is not?
Please enlighten us.
Which church has finished preaching the gospel to the 7 billion people on earth?
because that is the only church that cant be in need.

He asked you:
"What is the biblical meaning of tithe?"

Please make an attempt to try and give an answer

petra1:
1 Corinthians 9:14 (KJV)
Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel

This isn't a problem if, as long, people aren't being forced people to give, aren't getting threatened with fear of curses, calamity or misfortune if they don't give.
As long as specified financial demands aren't forced on people, it isn't a prob
If people willing and on their own initiative give, that's OK

petra1:
Hebrews 5:10-11 (TLB)
For remember that God has chosen him to be a High Priest with the same rank as Melchizedek.
There is much more I would like to say along these lines, but you don't seem to listen, so it's hard to make you understand. Jesus said "Before Abraham was, I am". So, what is your point here?

When we get to heaven we shall know more about the mystery man. Maybe he was God, or Jesus or an ordinary Jew

Well he certainly wasn't any of those you mentioned above.

petra1:
The church doesn't have a new bible

The more why it is baffling because you seem to be reading and understanding a new bible

petra1:
Tithe is simply 10% of what God has blessed you. If I have gift of 10 cars I will give one to God. Then decide if I need to sell the other. Tithe is not limited to money.
Money is generally default medium of exchange

If you have a gift or surplus of 10 cars, you are not under any obligation to give 0.001 percent of it, talkless 10%
The decision to give or not to give, is up to you.

I know you're familiar with the phrase:"Time is money"
Do you tithe your time too?
Do you divide your time into tenths when carrying out Kingdom purposes?

petra1:
It was a project they embarked on.
That's not telling us the day to day dealing of the church

That is your opinion, but the fact stands, that it is the principle of church support laid down and recommended in the bible to meet the physical needs of "church"
and it is telling us of the financial solution for the day to day dealing of the church

petra1:
Tithe belongs to God period. They had the scripture. If they had any change they would have mentioned it. At least Paul spoke against circumcision

Paul talked about the revolutionary manner of giving, that superceded taxed, obligatory or mandatory tithes

petra1:
What is the new law. What bible were they studying in the church. New law? Or Torah

A bit of biblical shock for you,
if you don't know what the new law is.

petra1:
What is there then?

Carte blanche.
It is as simple as that Petra1.
The complete freedom to act as one wishes with ones money and/or financial income

The beauty of the Gospel, is that it means good news
and it typifies FREEDOM,
freedom from any type or form of ecclesiastical taxed, obligatory or imposed tithing

Jesusgirl92:
Are we still on the tithe issue ....?? Good morning brethren...

The above will be of interest to you, sister, daughter of Zion

asuustrike2009:
Am sure you know the breaking of bread the idea didn't come from the apostles

SMH.
You are so desperate that you will throw anything at the wall, all in an attempt to see if it will stick to it

asuustrike2009:
You just quoted a verse without understanding the logic behind it

I dont anymore understand what people learn again in tertiary institutions back then and even lately
but I do understand, we all have levels of knowledge gaps, so dont because of yours, be too hard on yourself

Now what you should know, is, the "and" in Acts 2:42,
is used to introduce an additional comment to "...they were constant in listening to the teaching of the Apostles..."

Meaning, in addition, to being constant, in listening to the teaching of the Apostles
they also, were constant, in their attendance at the Communion, that is, the Breaking of the Bread, and at prayer.

petra1:
Kindly note Jacob vow was not based on the condition of land possession but blessing and safety

Genesis 28:20-22 (KJV)
And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on, So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the Lord be my God: And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

¹⁰Then Jacob departed from Beersheba and went toward Haran.
¹¹He came to a certain place and spent the night there, because the sun had set; and he took one of the stones of the place and put it under his head, and lay down in that place.
¹²He had a dream, and behold, a ladder was set on the earth with its top reaching to heaven; and behold, the angels of God were ascending and descending on it.
¹³And behold, the LORD stood above it and said, “I am the LORD, the God of your father Abraham and the God of Isaac; the land on which you lie, I will give it to you and to your descendants.
¹⁴“Your descendants will also be like the dust of the earth, and you will spread out to the west and to the east and to the north and to the south; and in you and in your descendants shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
¹⁵“Behold, I am with you and will keep you wherever you go, and will bring you back to this land; for I will not leave you until I have done what I have promised you.”
¹⁶Then Jacob awoke from his sleep and said, “Surely the LORD is in this place, and I did not know it.”
¹⁷He was afraid and said, “How awesome is this place! This is none other than the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven.”
- Genesis 28:10-17

¹⁸So Jacob rose early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put under his head and set it up as a pillar and poured oil on its top.
¹⁹He called the name of that place Bethel; however, previously the name of the city had been Luz.
²⁰Then Jacob made a vow, saying, “If God will be with me and will keep me on this journey that I take, and will give me food to eat and garments to wear,
²¹and I return to my father’s house in safety, then the LORD will be my God.
²²“This stone, which I have set up as a pillar, will be God’s house,
and of ALL that You give me I will surely give a tenth to You.”
- Genesis 28:18-22

Petra1, petra1, petra1
Petra1, the brother, whom in spite of our ecclesiastical tithe,
where christian gatherings, taxes its members tenth, 1/10, 10% of their financial income,
or taxed, obligatory or mandatory tithe differences, I still love and hugely respect,
but cant you see this is a two-pronged vow?

OK, lets compare notes

Dont you see that Jacob made a two-pronged vow
He made the vows on his own accord, without being forced or required
and for this reason was able to specify the terms or conditions of the vows he made.

The "and" in Genesis 28:22, separates each of the two vows
The first vow, had nothing to do with anything in the dream Jacob had
the second had all and a lot to do with everything in the dream Jacob had

The reality is that, God wasnt actually talking about Jacob personally or directly
God was talking prophetically and talking of the Israel that Jacob will become
It is worth noting that, God didnt even ask for anything in return for this prophetic promise
but Jacob upon waking up, personalised the contents of the dream
he did this by adding more to what God promised
and then laid down a first condition, that wasnt even in God's prophetic promise
at which he said, if that condition is met, then the LORD will become his God
and he will have a stone set up as a pillar, to be God’s house

It was after looking after his own interest, that he now switched to address the ALL,
as in the content of the dream's prophetic promise
This led to the second vow, and the condition that when this prophetic promise is fulfilled, tithe will be paid on it
This prophetic promise didnt come to pass until 430plus years later, when Israel inherited the Promised Land

"Your name won't be Jacob anymore," the man replied, "but Israel,
because you exerted yourself against both God and men, and you've emerged victorious."
- Genesis 32:28

Upon fighting to inherit the Promised Land, Israel by virtue of a nation, and by virtue of the new name Jacob was given, paid the second vow.
Israel, the Israelites, are the descendants mentioned in the Genesis 28:10-17 dream

Notice in, Genesis 28:10-17, that God appeared to Jacob in a dream, to give Jacob a no strings attached prophetic promise
The contents of the prophetic promise God gave Jacob, in the dream, were:
1) The land on which you lie, I will give it to you and to your descendants
2) Your descendants will also be like the dust of the earth,
and you will spread out to the west and to the east and to the north and to the south;
and in you and in your descendants shall all the families of the earth be blessed
3) Behold, I am with you and will keep you wherever you go, and will bring you back to this land;
for I will not leave you until I have done what I have promised you.”

I am concerned that you are singing out of tune from the same hymn sheet every other person is singing beautifully from.
This is why I took a bit considerable length to reproduce the above scriptural verses
and make some explanations, to make things clearer

PaChukwudi44:
tithing is not required to get salvation.
The Apostles didn't teach tithes and it didn't stop them from making salvation.

asuustrike2009:
Tithing has being practiced before the apostles.
That the apostles choose not to doesn't mean is not practiced

Goshen360:
So you agree the Apostles didn't teach or practice it right?
So therefore it's not an Apostolic doctrine to the church.
Do you agree?

asuustrike2009:
Which doctrine are you to follow the Bible or the apostles?
Did the bible say we should follow apostle's doctrine?

Goshen360:
The bible in its entirety is a progressive revelation whereby truth was unveiled in PARTS.
Today's church have the complete truth in Christ and the Apostles
No other foundation should be laid other than what's been laid.
Yes, the church follow the Apostolic teachings todays. Acts 2vs42

asuustrike2009:
The Bible is there for reproof, correction, knowledge.
The Bible didn't say we must follow the apostolic doctrines.
The word of God is our standard not apostolic doctrines

PaChukwudi44:
I wish I am around you right now. I will give you a dirty slap
and whip you just like Christ whipped those trading in the house of God.
salvation is not greater than tithing!!!! How dumber can one get!!!
Even while tithing was compulsory under the jewish law it was not even amongst the important part of the law.
Shame on you

PaChukwudi44:
Just when I thought I have heard it all!!!
So your thieving pastors now know the scriptures more than the apostles!!! I give up!!
This one is beyond redemption

and they were constant in listening to the teaching of the Apostles
and in their attendance at the Communion, that is, the Breaking of the Bread, and at prayer.
- Acts 2:42

So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
- 2 Thessalonians 2:15

asuustrike2009 must have read Acts 2:42 and 2 Thessalonians 2:15 with blindfolds on

nuclearboy:
Who's this please?
Love your footnote about Truth pissing you off

I'll holler you on WhatsApp.
Long time, trust all is well

petra1:
He fulfilled all together. Are you insinuating he didn't fulfill his vow

No, not insinuating, but rather outrightly telling you Jacob DID NOT fulfil all together.
He couldn't because God too hadn't fulfil His part of the deal where God said He will give the land to Jacob's descendants

It was 430 plus years later, that Jacob, as a nation Israel, was able to fulfil the tithe vow

spongeisback:
I need a bible verse that said Jacob built the altar and fulfilled his vow...I am not insinuating, it's obvious from all the verses you've posted that he never did. So I am waiting for new verses.

Don't hold your breath unless you want him to conjure up an imaginary bible verse.

Hell will have to first freeze over before you get sight of that bible verse

nuclearboy:
Well, Jesus was in His Disciples and they in Him..... so, they behaved like Him

You too are in that police dude and him in you - little wonder it's "wetin you carry" you keep saying to your "customers", collecting their money

Nuke Baba!

LoJ:
how are you candy girl? Wanna take a ride?

MizMyColi:



You need Jesus!

Tongue in cheek

petra1:
It’s your assumption

An assumption pill to bitter for you to swallow

petra1:
There are indications or parallel principle like 1cor9:14-15 . Even if there is non. Has God mind changed about incest because the apostles didn’t preach it. Can a brother marry his sister now?

If Cain could marry one of his sisters, why not can a brother not now, marry his sister.
but of course, gumption will tell you this isn't advisable because of how the human building block has depreciated and can cause medical abnormalities

petra1:
If you study well, you will hear paul say that he was actually entitled for welfare.
Which he did in other places except Corinth

If you, study well, you will find out Paul never said and felt he was entitled to taxed, obligatory or mandatory tithe or one tenth of biblical believers financial income

petra1:
Nice , but it’s not a new testament. Thing many did so under the Old Testament.
Offering is offering, tithe is tithe, alms giving is alms giving, free will giving is free will giving either under the old or new

Burnt offering done by Abel, was done before the law, so why aren't you harping that it is an everlasting principle, like you always say about tithing, and demanding that it has to be continued and done in this modern age?

petra1:
Is incest still a sin ? I challenge you to show me in the epistles

Incest would be missing the mark,
and essentially that is what sin is, isn't it?
I can show you, if you really don't know the scriptures or epistle that talks and tackled a similar incident about incest.

petra1:
While you guys are robbers

Do you know you're placing yourself under a curse, if you demand specified 10% percentage of financial income, taxed, obligatory or mandatory tithes.

Gombs:
Gbam

SMH

GodsMopol:
Salvation And Tithe, Which Is Greater

You must each decide in your heart how much to give.
And don't give reluctantly or in response to pressure.
(i.e. you shouldn't be sorry that you gave or feel forced to give)
"For God loves a person who gives cheerfully.
- 2 Corinthians 9:7

"Salvation And Tithe, Which Is Greater" is a comparison of apples and oranges
and to make matters worse, one of the fruits is past its use by date and actually is now stale.

1) The obligatory tithe imposed by the Mosaic law (i.e. the Levitical tithe also known as the Mosaic Law tithe)
2) The obligatory tithe imposed by the christian gatherings law
(i.e. ecclesiastical tithe, where christian gatherings, taxes its members a tenth, 1/10, 10% and possibly 0.1 too, of their financial income)
3) The obligatory tithe imposed by custom law (i.e. Abraham's tithing was done, due to the social setting of that time)
4) The obligatory tithe imposed by monarchy law (i.e. tenth of seed and of vineyards, given to the king's officials and servants)

All taxed, obligatory or mandatory tithes, in the form of any of the above
no more have any intrinsic value or importance because each is no longer fresh and pleasant to eat

Consequently each and/or all have been superceded by the new kid on the block, toast of the town, revolutionary way of giving,
where believers are instructed or urged in 2 Corinthians 9:7 above, to do

2 Corinthians 9:7, by the way actually, is a rehashed principle God HAS always endorsed,
as evident in Exodus 25:2, Exodus 35:29, Deuteronomy 15:10 & 1 Chronicles 29:9

God came down to earth because of the salvation of soul(s) and not because of tithe
Taxed, obligatory or mandatory tithe is now redundant and unnecessary
Taxed, obligatory or mandatory tithe is no longer needed
Taxed, obligatory or mandatory tithe reached the end of its lifespan, the moment the temple was destroyed

solite3:
they are not the same.
Salvation is far more important.
How do you even compare salvation to tithing?
A trillion tithing can never equal what Christ has done on the cross.

Tithing is good way to give to God's work but not a law.

1) Why is a specified tenth, 10%, 0.1 or 1/10 (i.e. tithe) a good way to give to God's work?
2) Considering tithing is not a law, just like you've correctly stated,
then what is wrong with giving an unspecified amount or percentage?
3) What is wrong with giving more or in giving less than the tenth, 10%, 0.1 or 1/10? (i.e. tithe)

MizMyColi:

And here I was thinking I coined the word first.
I never knew such existed!

Well someone beat you to it
and that person not only used the word, but also marketed it, retailing as a $6500 sex aid toy or gadget

MizMyColi:
C'mon you should have known I didn't mean it in that context.

Yup, I knew...

MizMyColi:
Well, that clears it all up....I guess

I'll love to believe it clears it all up
and hope it doesnt repeat self

MizMyColi:
I was actually responding to this.
You spoke of orgasm, not orgasmia.

That's correct I spoke of orgasm,
it was you who brought up that orgasmia ludicrously expensive sex aid toy or gadget

MizMyColi:
I've never thought of orgasm as something that's "created"

Is it wham bam thank you ma'am big bang, then?
You mean, similar to the big bang theory, it wasnt "created", as it just explodes and comes out of nowhere or thin air?

MizMyColi:
I think of it more as the product of a ritual, process if you may.

It is an end product.
You're absolutely right.
Orgasm, happens to be the first instalment, of the end products of finishing a ritual of having sex
or better still, as it were, happens to be the first instalment, of the end products, after a process of making love

Now, just because one reaches orgasm with an exploding big bang
doesnt mean the product, being orgasm, of the ritual of having sex or love making process, wasnt created

MizMyColi:
So I wondered why anyone would be averse to something so pleasurable, so natural

I am baffled as well that anyone would be averse to something so pleasurable
and that's why I asked:
"Do you know why, the originator of climax invented it or why the mastermind behind orgasm created it?"

It really would be lovely, you attempt answering that question

MizMyColi:
Now I get that it's orgasmia you have a thing against, not orgasm

I might have a thing against retailing a sex aid toy or gadget, at a mind-blowing $6500 price tag, when orgasm can be achieved with little or zero dollars
I have absolutely no gripes with orgasm
I've once wondered though, why it doesnt go a bit more further on

MizMyColi:
Apologies for being misconstrued.

No offense. None taken. Apologies unnecessary

MizMyColi:
Interesting.
I take it you're either celibate or a proponent of sexual repression

Your take is completely wrong on both accounts
I've never seen such glaring example of misrepresentations of me

MizMyColi:
Otherwise, why would a man with a functional deke not want to take his woman to the highest point of pleasure during intercourse?

How would I know.
I dont know why would a man with a functional deke not want to take his woman to the highest point of pleasure during sexual intercourse
I bet you might know why and so cant wait to tell me

MizMyColi:
Humor me please

It's obvious you're asking the wrong person to humour you please
Do yourself and me, a favour, out of curiosity, go research on what "orgasmia" really is

MizMyColi:
Quotes 1&2 above are a tad contradictory, don't you think?

Nope, quotes 1 & 2 are never the tad contradictory.
Quotes 1 & 2, merely, just got lost on you.
It is glaringly you didnt understand them, that's all.

MizMyColi:
So, let me ask in clear terms...
Do you like the icing in the cake-ish?

After you've answered:
"Dont you know why the originator of climax or orgasm invented and/or created it?"

then I will respond to:
"Do you like the icing in the cake-ish?",
whatever "...icing in the cake-ish" means

Jesusgirl92:
Onku, he knows I was joking with him...

Onku dey your house

Jesusgirl92:
No need for all the grammar abeg. Thanks.

https://i66.tinypic.com/35btcw5.jpg
Look at your profile, is there any need for all the grammar in there?.
Please dont make me call you out to be a hypocrite.

You better get use to it and thank me later
Until good sense and the right thing about the revolutionary way of giving,
where believers are instructed or urged in 2 Corinthians 9:7, to do, is learned, grammar will continue fall

Jesusgirl92:
I go soon wound you... But for now, I don fight finish..

Time will tell whether or not, that's wishful thinking.

Goshen360:
Sometimes it does....so the answer is YES.
Paul called some people names more ridiculous than I'm doing. Don't you think so?
Btw, I'll be gentle still on the name calling but you get it every now and then....

Btw, excuse me, the Love of Christ being....to fight for preserving the truth from distortion in the body of Christ.

We cool?

Jesusgirl92:
Buy me land first .

You've just learned the hard way, that, if you go onto a tithe battlefield, you will be shot at

You dont need anyone buying you land first, that you couldnt buy by yourself
Learn about the revolutionary way of giving, where believers are instructed or urged as in 2 Corinthians 9:7
and see how easy it will turn out for you to buy land by yourself