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Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 3:42pm On Dec 29, 2017
Sarassin:
Wet blanket!
Bwahahaha read my defence of you
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 3:40pm On Dec 29, 2017
Ishilove:
But he is here encouraging her na. He needs factory resetting slap angry
Kikiki ki.
Not necessarily,
you see, Sarassin at times, believe it or not, can be so hopelessly innocent.
He thinks it's just endearments
and so thinks nothing more to it.
He probably thinks it's just a snare Analice is using to win him over to the kingdom, so therefore plays along, albeit with a convenient swollen head
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 3:34pm On Dec 29, 2017
Ishilove:
I meant his submission is interesting
Gotcha

Ishilove:
How did he come about the python spirit theory?

Davep
That's a bit of doing a wuru-wuru to the answer thang

Divination isn't psychic,
that girl was fortune telling, not mind reading or reading people's thoughts
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 3:23pm On Dec 29, 2017
Ishilove:
Interesting...
Why are you pretending you aren't familiar with all those and more verses. Sorry about another pun being in there again
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 3:20pm On Dec 29, 2017
Ishilove:
Lmao! I'm pretty sure analice didn't know this. grin

She will be heartbroken sad
abeggy this isn't a laughing/smirking matter nau

Didnt know otherwise how to break it gently
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 3:00pm On Dec 29, 2017
Ishilove:
2 Tim 2 vs 23
analize701:
God help me. Ayaf bin sinning in that.
No you havent been sinning
That scripture has nothing on you because I am yet to see any arguments you might have had with Sarassin ever descend into fights

Anyway, having said that, there is this other thing, I have been wanting to tell or ask you, a whole long time ago though, that, are you aware that Sarassin is off limits and off the shelves?
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff:
Ishilove:
Is clairvoyance of the devil?
Hmm, let's see, sorry about the pun
On a serious note, I am not sure a believer will proudly like to be addressed as a clairvoyant.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff:
Ishilove:
My understanding of 'kosher' is 'fit' and 'appropriate', and describes foods which are 'halal' in Jewish dietary laws.
Does kosher have another meaning outside this? undecided

That aside, what I meant is the gift could be a burden because knowing what people think about you, all the time can be such a bother. Sometimes it is better to be guided by wisdom and intuition in our dealings with human beings.

However, you are right about the gift being a burden if the source is from the kingdom of darkness.
Using kosher or halal, in this instance, was just matter of borrowing a parlance.

The gifts which will be appropriate when put side by side with psychic or clairvoyance are:
1) the spiritual gift word of knowledge,
2) gift of discerning of spirits
3) and gift of prophecy
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 1:14pm On Dec 29, 2017
Ishilove:
It's quite a fascinating gift,
although it is one which should be regulated so as not to use it for devious purposes like he did.

It is also a burden, I believe.
16One day as we were going to the place of prayer,
we were met by a slave girl with a spirit of clairvoyance,
who earned a large income for her masters by fortune-telling.
17This girl followed Paul and the rest of us, shouting,
“These men are servants of the Most High God, who are proclaiming to you the way of salvation.”
18She continued this for many days.
Eventually Paul grew so aggravated that he turned and said to the spirit,
“In the name of Jesus Christ I command you to come out of her!”
And the spirit left her at that very moment.

- Acts 16:16-18

It would be if the source is kosher
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 1:06pm On Dec 29, 2017
analize701:
Getting banned is something we shd be used to by now nah. lol. Am no longer fazed by being banned for no reason.
Once i was banned, i didn't know why i was banned because a reason was not given

Someone said it was Algorithm. Okay o.
My dear thank God you have something to be busy on. Great results ahead.

I saw that moniker and thought it was your alt.

It's well
Yes there are rules the god of Nairaland covertly laid down.
It's like walking on a landmine field, step on one or flout any at your peril.

Sometimes ordinarily mentioning the god's name directly on the wrong post might get you slammed, so posters at times go round this, by spacing out the god's name.
It's a trial and error, cat and mouse game plus taking a punt you don't get your post hidden along with being slammed with posting privileges temporarily being withdrawn
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 12:55pm On Dec 29, 2017
Ishilove:
Are you psychic?
Apparently, if not possibly a clairvoyant then
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 11:25pm On Dec 28, 2017
MizMyColi:
Lol
Let me pretend I understand grin
When I get round to it, I'll mention you, so no need for pretences
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 11:08pm On Dec 28, 2017
MizMyColi:
Okay, thanks for clearing that up
No cause for alarm
No problemo

MizMyColi:
I look forward to your submissions.
You know, the post I am taking of?
If you do know, just want to say, I hand rubbing, love, how or the way, it is developing
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 10:27pm On Dec 28, 2017
MizMyColi:
Hello Muttleylaff,

Is there a reason for quoting almost all my posts on this thread in one place?
Yes, there is milady
At the very first one, you resonated so powerfully with me, that I wanted to jump in,
but I restrained myself from getting involved, because, in the first place, I didnt want to gatecrash
and secondly, there is that back-burner interaction post of ours,
which once I get my groove back on it, I would now and then be referencing contents in each/all of the six quotes
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 9:49pm On Dec 28, 2017
MizMyColi:
During my Christian days, I never really felt close to Jesus, as I did to Papa.
I found it easier calling on Papa or talking to him than I did Jesus.

I know he's a great and powerful teacher/being, but I had to be true to my feelings, no?

If you know me well, you'll testify I'm a feeler. That's how God speaks to me mostly....in the interim at least.
That's how I'm able to forge and maintain my relationships.

If my feelings aren't in tandem with positivity and love and light, it is the surest pointer that I have veered off from Papa/God/Source...
so at the point, I have a choice to realign or continue to go far from his presence.

But I digress.

The point I made when I said I did not know Jesus, was the experiential kind.
I can tell you that I KNOW the Father...not because I remember seeing his shiny face,
but because I have felt his presence, him, his very essence (well as much as I could handle, yeah).

But I cannot say the same for Jesus.

You do get my point now, don't you?
MizMyColi:
But I'm not a Christian anymore, my dear.
I have no religion to lay claim to.
I do not consider the Bible as the word of God.

It does not make sense to me that Paul's words now equal the word of God.

I think that the word of God is in the hearts of all men.
It is living, and it is flowing....
You just need to tap into that consciousness and do exploits.

You talked about contemporary folks having access to the president....

Well, Dave, let's just say that some folks with specific assignments actually have the president's personal line.
When they call, he listens, when they need to meet, he makes it happen, no matter what.

My understanding is that there is more to God, the divine if you may, than meets even the most enlightened of eyes.

Sometimes, people experience an aspect or some aspects of God...
This is dependent on what you are here to do...

I know what mine is....

Now the good thing is, wherever you are at, however you are...God has his special ways of reaching you,
because you are part of him. How he reveals himself to you would be different, or rather, might be different from how he does to me.

In the end, we are on seemingly different paths to achieving our truest, realest nature - GodHood.
MizMyColi:
Thanks Sarassin,

That moment when all you've been taught for about two and half decades of your life as law,
and unquestionable, and unchangeable begins to fall apart...you want to tell yourself "it couldn't possibly be"
But then, what do I know really as regards these matters really...
MizMyColi:
I expect us to have a civil conversation, not one that's rife with subtle backbiting, judgementalism, and "my religion is better than yours" shenanigans. I do not want my feelings getting hurtgrincheesy

Dearie, you should also know that presently, I am not aligned to any known religion. Meaning I live by my own 'religious' ideologies and thoughts. I do not identify myself with any religious sect or belief.

I usually stay away from conversations that put my belief in the spotlight, especially seeing as I am neither here nor there (which I have no qualms with btw).

But for you, and for reasons known best to me, I will make an exception smiley
MizMyColi:
It's not about evidence(s).
It's about experience(s).

So let me ask you, Dave...

Knowing what you know about Jesus' life and times, have you had a one one one encounter with him?

If yes, what makes you sure that you dealt with him first hand?

Mind sharing your experience(s)?
MizMyColi:
I remember saying that I was scared of going too deep into the spiritual.
I do not remember, and I really doubt that I ever said I was scared of going too deep into prayer-warrior-ing.

It's good you said "I sounded like" - now, this implies two things:
1. It's a postulation.
2. You are wrong.

The reason is best known to me, a topic for another day, if you may.

I'd like to ask, how did the prophets of old have access to Papa?
Through Jesus, yeah?
It might well be the same for me, who knows...
It might well be that the being I refer to as Papa is Jesus, OR not.

All I have said is that I cannot tell that I have experienced Jesus in a way that I expected.


No, Analice, I do not want to bypass Jesus...
On the contrary, I would like to experience Jesus beyond what the bible teaches. I want to experience his person....
Of course, I do not wish to go deeper.
If you are a person of discernment, then this should suffice.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MuttleyLaff: 6:13pm On Dec 28, 2017
MrPresident1:
Yes ooo, broda Seun has quoted meeeeee shocked shocked grin grin grin,
today is my happy day
and I am hitting the roof grin.

I shall frame this quote and hang it in my room shocked wink

One thing is sure, Broda Seun is now a watcher too cool
Aburo ee, omo inu ee, ni broda
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 5:46pm On Dec 28, 2017
Sarassin:
Granted, but how does he make the leap that the ancient Jews, a Semitic people were Negroid?
History is written by the conquerors, it is said,
so the whiteman rewrote history bwahahaha
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 5:30pm On Dec 28, 2017
Sarassin:
@bolded, you're sheiting me, right? grin grin grin
MrPresident1:
Lol. Jews are black wink
Sarassin:
Ok, you mean black like Netanyahu or Golda Meier.
MrPresident1:
Those are Israelis, I am talking Israelites.

The ancient Jews were black,
and I have the support of logic, history, and the Bible to back me u wink
Netanyahu, Simon Peres and others are not real Israelites
but are either actually Ashkenazi Jews or of Polish origin
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 2:32pm On Dec 28, 2017
Sarassin:
Like all apocalyptic and doomsday prophets, even up to the modern era, (including NL's very own Monsieur le Presidente) he got it badly wrong.
MuttleyLaff:
Our dear old pal Monsieur le Presidente bwahahaha
Sarassin no go keel pesin here this morning ooo
Double wahala for deady bodi, and the owner of deady bodi
Sarassin:
grin grin grin
MrPresident1:
grin grin grin
Talk of the devil

Who is the snitch? grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: My Spirit Of Divination And The Need To Discard It by MuttleyLaff: 1:11pm On Dec 27, 2017
analize701:
I know
I know you know
I was pointing out that, tithing, is, in the amount.
Whereas, you wrote tithing is not in the amount.

It is giving, that isn't in the amount.
Tithing is giving, but not all giving is tithing

The amount of tithe is 10%, nothing more, nothing less
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff:
Sarassin:
I am well aware of what you mean by the term “fishers of Men”
I am also well aware of the usage of the term by the gospel writers Mark and Matthew.
The question is, what was the understanding of the usage of that term by first century Palestinian Jews in the context in which Jesus supposedly used it?

Again, this is a demonstration of why Greek speaking diasporan Jews who wrote long after the death of Jesus, never met him and knew precious little about the norms and customs of the day should not be writing gospels.

Here is my topic on the matter:https://www.nairaland.com/2196462/make-fishers-men
So that is why you penned the below then?
In there was I saying I have the good sense not to jump to conclusion there
and begging you to please explain yourself in there, because I didnt seem to follow or understand.
Then asked that are you saying "I will make you fishers of men” is a derogatory or extremely unpleasant remark to make?

Sarassin:
What is "shockingly monumental" is quoting the line “I will make you fishers of men”
a statement so vile in the context of its time
that no-one, least of all Jesus would use it to entreat a man to enjoin him in any viable endeavour.
You got the wrong end of the stick there dear friend
It was just a prophecy enaction going on Sarassin

Apart from recreations like walking, have you tried angling?
Go watch anglers at the Kennet & Avon Canal or Waterloo Meadows at Reading


Sarassin:
It means that Jesus was an apocalyptic prophet, who very much like John the Baptist preached that God was going to bring about the end of the world and that it was imminent and would be heralded by the coming of the “Son of Man”.

Like all apocalyptic and doomsday prophets, even up to the modern era, (including NL's very own Monsieur le Presidente) he got it badly wrong
Our dear old pal Monsieur le Presidente bwahahaha
Sarassin no go keel pesin here this morning ooo
Double wahala for deady bodi, and the owner of deady bodi
Christianity Etc › Re: My Spirit Of Divination And The Need To Discard It by MuttleyLaff: 10:00am On Dec 27, 2017
Bester44:
You are truly in the spirit.
Who God asked me to go and confess to is a pastor I trust but in another pentecostal church.

I created this thread because 4 days ago, it was revealed to me that a girl would throw herself at me.
Her name was revealed, what she would say to attract me was revealed,
and I was told she has invisible horn on her forehead.
We met 3 days ago. Since then, she gets pissed off if I don't chat her up much in a day.

Satan is actually attacking my finance
and I have not been faithful with tithing
analize701:
Whoever God wants, satan also wants. What will get you off from Satan's grip is prompt Obedience. Immediately you hear anything, run to do it. Satan gets frustrated when we obey YHWH.

Lol, @ the girl. You are fortunate to have this gift. Cut that girl off, never ever think you are strong enough to ward off satanic schemes. They casts spells and place Hexes on people. If you disobey your own master, it gives them room into you, So cut her off for your own good.

Tithing Giving is not in the amount, it's obedience and discipline, and consistency that God intends to teach us.
My gift is dreaming and like you i dream things that'll effect me before they happen. If i tell you how many suitors i have let go because i had dreamed they weren't right? Folks thinks i'm mad. But, YHWH says, 'They will never be ashamed that put their trust in Him'. I will not obey and trust Him and be ashamed. That is not consistent with His character.

Bros, crave a tight relationship with God. The devil will keep trying to infiltrate your gift by planting messages to you, but check everything with the Word if God. The Holy Spirit will not speak outside the Word.

Paul says, even if an Angel comes to tell us to do what is not in the Word, we shd curse that Angel because he is not of the Lord.

Bury yourself in Word. Pls pls and pls, do the Word of God. If it says don't lie, pls don't lie.

Keep away from sexual sin, no sin is as devastating like sexual sin.

Keep the Spirit of Anger away. Satan will stir you up by using people around you to make you angry. Be alert to avoid getting angry to a point of saying or doing what you shd not.

Love all man, especially those who hates you. I just understood the power in loving those you hate you. If we know what we do to those who hate us if we love them eh. hmmm.

Your case is different. Because you are the redeemed of the Lord, and as a covenant Child, what affects others is not permitted to affect.

May the peace of God overtake you.
Fixed that for you
Tithing is 10% period.
The only amount that tithing is, one tenth of something
Tithe is neither less nor more than 10%
Whenever you give more than 10%, it ceases to be tithe
1% - 9.99% and 10.001% -100% giving is not tithing
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 1:22am On Dec 27, 2017
MizMyColi:
Many thanks dear one.

So, is his birthday 25th December?

Does he look anything like what we're inundated with in the movies?
Sarassin now you'll understand what it means and entails to be a fisher of men

- love of the fish and a big passion for fishing
- long hours
- time, patience, perseverance, dedication, and a deep understanding of fishing
- know your tackle and methods
- react appropriately to weather, river or sea conditions
- catch first, have in hand before descaling or degutting
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 12:40am On Dec 27, 2017
daveP:
the boldened startles me very much.
Like you worked in a company, got promoted, but still doubt you're a staff cos all files, info don't come to your desk?
Assurance of Salvation must be known!!
come you got deep, yet still revel in uncertainty?
Dont worry there's more galumphing in store from where that came from
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 12:05am On Dec 27, 2017
Sarassin:
Astute questions Miz, I hope DaveP will come along and shed more light.
My tuppence worth is that Jesus was not black
he was a first century Palestinian Jew
who was an apocalyptic prophet in the makings of John the Baptist.
Really?
What is "...was an apocalyptic prophet in the makings of John the Baptist" suppose to mean?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Stoning Of Stephen - Why...? by MuttleyLaff:
Sarassin:
This is roughly the period that concerns us.
The idea that a Jewish Adult Man (the rite of Mitzveh took place at the age of 13) would sit in his mother’s house for 18 years doing nothing is ludicrous as it is improbable
Where, here on this thread or in the scripture, did you read He sat in his mother’s house for 18 years doing nothing?

Sarassin:
He was either out working or he was being schooled
Luke 2:41-42, 49, 51-52, Luke 3:23, Matthew 3:13-15, Luke 4:14-16, 20-22, Matthew 4:12-14, 17 and Mark 6:1-2 showed Him both working and home schooled

Those verses showed that Jesus was at home, show where Jesus was before the time of His public appearance
They showed that Jesus was home schooled unlike John the Baptist, His cousin,
whose formative years was spent in the desert until the time of his public appearance

Sarassin:
sitting at home suckling on his mother was not an option for a young Jewish male, not in the real world
And the child grew, and was weaned:
and Abraham made a great feast the same day that Isaac was weaned

- Genesis 21:8

And when she had weaned him,
she took him up with her, with three bullocks, and one ephah of flour, and a bottle of wine,
and brought him unto the house of the LORD in Shiloh: and the child was young.

- 1 Samuel 1:24

This is absurd to suggest, even if its good-natured banter, that a strapping fine specimen of a man was at home suckling on his mother

Sarassin:
And so what?
how does this explain the curious silence of the intervening years?
Luke 2:41-42, 49, 51-52, Luke 3:23, Matthew 3:13-15, Luke 4:14-16, 20-22, Matthew 4:12-14, 17 and Mark 6:1-2 explained the whereabouts of Jesus
Those verses showed that Jesus was at home, show where Jesus was before the time of His public appearance
They showed that Jesus was home schooled unlike John the Baptist, His cousin,
whose formative years was spent in the desert until the time of his public appearance

Sarassin:
And why does it sound improbable to you that Jesus would make life-long fellows his disciples?
Why not give two, three or four names of such children of the poor, there at Engaddi, whom you've alleged were later to become his trusted disciples

Sarassin:
What is "shockingly monumental" is quoting the line “I will make you fishers of men”
a statement so vile in the context of its time
that no-one, least of all Jesus would use it to entreat a man to enjoin him in any viable endeavour.
I have the good sense not to jump to conclusion here
Please explain yourself here, because I dont seem to follow or understand.
Are you saying "I will make you fishers of men” is a derogatory or extremely unpleasant remark to make?

Sarassin:
If you say Jesus was a whizz-kid, doesn’t that reflect what I wrote earlier that he was well educated by the Essene's?
It doesnt because you arent exactly accurate with saying he was well educated by the "Essenes"

Sarassin:
Commendably you accept that Jesus knew the Essene’s and that “he used their facilities”
you then threw it all away by adding the dissembler “but was at no time under their tutelage”
Yes, Jesus knew the Essenes.
Yes, Jesus used their facility for the Passover meal
and yes, I rightly threw away your boldly concocted account of events

Sarassin:
so what was he doing there, logging on to their computers?
I tried holding a straight face and read this remark without laughing but failed
Bwahahaha. You got jokes, you got jokes mayne kikiki ki

Sarassin:
You baulk at accepting that Jesus was taught by the Essene's, why?
Why?
One knows straight away, what is true and what is false
I couldnt take to bank, this opinion of Jesus being educated at Qumran
and so trust, you will appreciate that, old bulls or cows, learned to eat straw and spit out fiddlesticks

Sarassin:
Hopefully not for the same dogmatic reasons my dear Emmanystone is trying to impute
Why?
Well, not for dogmatic reasons but because I've become quite blase to "Jesus was taught by the Essenes'" unbalanced and preconceived opinions

Sarassin:
Every contemporary and secular account of the Essene teachings methods
and their way of life handed to us by the likes of Josephus
and even Philo Judaeus confirm to us that virtually all of Jesus’ teachings and practices were Essenic in nature,
the Essene’s taught esoteric healing methods, they preached compassion, tolerance, forbearance they taught communality,
they were well versed in scriptures, you knnow this as well as I do, so what was Jesus doing there if not learning those things?
You know, as well as I do, that Jesus denounced the Essene teachings and practices

Why you chose to remain silent on Jesus' divergent and disagreeable views on the Essene teachings beats me
There are well versed incidents in scriptures of Jesus and Paul
attacking the dogmatism, the extremism and the fanaticism of the Essenes, so why are you tight-lipped on those?

Sarassin:
Retract what exactly? Jesus studied under the Essene’s,
even you admit that “he used their facilities”
if he studied under them, he took an oath, there’s nothing more to add
If I were to use facilities in a mosque, would that make me a muslim?

Matthew 5:33-37 and Jesus at Matthew 5:34 speaking is evident Jesus doesnt endorse oaths, talkless taking part in swearing terrible oaths
I am pleased you've toned it down from "members were made to swear “terrible oaths”"
into "he took an oath"
So its no more terrible oath then?
It's progress somewhat anyway, as you've demoted it to a lesser of two evils

Sarassin:
I admit I may not have looked hard enough. Perhaps you can provide chapter and verse.
7Now the Festival of Unleavened Bread arrived, when the Passover lamb is sacrificed.
8Jesus sent Peter and John ahead and said, “Go and prepare the Passover meal, so we can eat it together.”
9“Where do you want us to prepare it?” they asked him.
10He replied, “As soon as you enter Jerusalem, a man carrying a pitcher of water will meet you.
Follow him. At the house he enters,
11say to the owner, ‘The Teacher asks: Where is the guest room where I can eat the Passover meal with my disciples?’
12He will take you upstairs to a large room that is already set up. That is where you should prepare our meal.”
13They went off to the city and found everything just as Jesus had said, and they prepared the Passover meal there.

- Luke 22:7-13

12On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover lamb was to be sacrificed, Jesus’ disciples asked Him, “Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?”
13So He sent two of His disciples and told them,
“Go into the city, and a man carrying a pitcher of water will meet you. Follow him,
14and whichever house he enters, say to the owner,
‘The Teacher asks: Where is My guest room, where I may eat the Passover with My disciples?’…

- Mark 14:12-14

I'll gladly do the donkey hard work for you
It's an Essene carrying the pitcher of water
and only an Essene will have a spare guest room facility available in Jerusalem, at that period of the year

Sarassin:
Have you ever wondered why there is not even a mention of Jesus in any of the Pre- 4th Century Gnostic writings i.e, the Qumran cave scrolls?
Why is it that Philo Judaeus who resided with the Essene's for a short period of time never once mentions Jesus in any of his treatises
"even Philo Judaeus confirm to us that virtually all of Jesus’ teachings and practices were Essenic in nature"
- © Sarassin

Seems you've forgotten, you earlier wrote:
"Philo Judaeus confirm to us that virtually all of Jesus’ teachings and practices were Essenic in nature"
and now you've contradicted yourself with later saying:
"Philo Judaeus who resided with the Essene's for a short period of time never once mentions Jesus in any of his treatises"

Oopsy daisy, was that a freudian slip, bwahahahaa

Sarassin:
why is it that Josephus who also lived with the Essene's for a while would record what Caesar had for breakfast
but left only a spurious mention or allusion to Jesus?
Have you ever wondered that maybe it is because of the simple fact, that Jesus was not an Qumran Essene,
and so, is why the Pre- 4th Century Gnostic writings (i.e. the Qumran cave scrolls) have no mention of Jesus
also why Philo, and Josephus never associated Jesus with the Qumran Essene?

Sarassin:
The Essene's kept their part of the bargain as did Jesus
Did the Zealots too keep their part of this fictitious bargain too?

Sarassin:
Indeed you make my point for me
I clearly recall that the point you are and were pushing
was that Jesus and the Apostles worked in collusion with each other to keep silent about the Essenes

I have shown this isnt the case, so dont agree with you that I have made your point for you

Sarassin:
Merry Christmas my friend.
Happy festive+end of the year time-out amigo
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 11:10pm On Dec 26, 2017
Sarassin:
Nothing intentional at all and it only ever happened in churches,
something about going into a contemplative state and people's heightened states of awareness.
All I can say is that it was cacophonous.
https://i57.tinypic.com/34sp9j4.gif

Sarassin:
This is one of the very few times I really wish you were right.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 10:58pm On Dec 26, 2017
Sarassin:
the good lord always made it known to me that he had a keen sense of humour, no sooner had I sat down than I would begin to hear the thoughts of others as clear as a bell, the deacons, pastors, choir, whatever, their inane and lascivious mental chatter would drive me up a wall and this was the real reason I never set foot in those places.
LoJ:
I wish to ask a question on this.

Did you "scan" their thoughts intentionally or it just happened as soon as you were in church?

I am aware of one method of telephaty based on empathy and mutual bonding.
You raise your vibration to the same level of the person you want to "share" the thoughts with, and share the same state of mind, recognizing the universal bond uniting us all (every man's death diminishes me). Is it the technique used here or something else?
We all indulge in one fantasy or the other
and Sarassin being a famous good at it fantasy illustrator, is no different
So LoJ when next Sarassin does his fantasies, remember not to lose sight of reality
Mind you, forgot to say, I almost fell off the unicorn reading Sarassin's
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 8:56pm On Dec 26, 2017
LoJ:
Your opinion
Getting touchy and all too, are we now?

LoJ:
I'm always naughty to some extent.
I don't know if jesus hates naughtiness, he never made any remark on that.
He had been visiting despite it anyway.
Now perhaps he is busy with sarassin, he barely has time for me again cry
Leave Sarassin out of it

Jesus is never busy, to not paying you or anyone for that matter, a visit

You didnt notice Jesus turn up?
He is standing at the door, knocking and calling,
but you're too wrapped up in yourself
you dont/cant hear His voice to open the door for Him to come in and be with you
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 8:35pm On Dec 26, 2017
LotusFan:
I’m not who huh A farmiliar spirit grin grin grin

grin grin grin
LoJ:
Tell me who you are already angry angry

else I may have to throw you out tongue
Be careful with the gra-gra-gra
else the table will get turned on you and you find out, it's you who gets thrown out in the cold
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 8:32pm On Dec 26, 2017
LoJ:
Ohh no sarcasm. I love jesus quite much
I know sarcasm, when I see it.
You have to say it and mean it

LoJ:
He has not paid me any visit for quite some time tho
Has He not now?
Oh dear. Maybe you've been naughty
You sure, you havent been naughty?
Christianity Etc › Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 8:25pm On Dec 26, 2017
LoJ:
smiley

When I was a christian, there were this other branch of christian who were always casting and binding familiar spirits.
I never understood what is it exactly they mean by that, nor the point of binding any spirit in carrying out deliverance.
Well, topic for another day.

For now, lets enjoy the end of the year. I see lovely people in this thread. It should be tied to the season.
We may have to thank jesus for that
Sarcasm wont get you far friend

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