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petra1:
Matthew 7:3
“And why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye when you have a log in your own?"

You can start with yours ... your church, your Pastor.

1 Peter 4:15
But let none of you suffer as a . . .busybody in other men's matters

Please continue with veiled rudeness, OK?

You aren't making any sense, you're talking like someone's house is on fire, but you're advising me to ignore pointing to it, and to worry about my house that's not on your fire, to start with my house thats not on fire. Where at all is any sense in that?

petra1:
Besides many accusations are known to be false. Dead man is not there to defend himself

He was given ample time and warning to defend himself when healthy and very much alive, but what did he do. He removed incriminating evidences on his website (i.e. false claims he himself put up on it about himself) and went incommunicado not addressing concerns put directly to him and to his ministry outfit about claims he's made that dont add up et cetera

Blabbermouth:
Lee ma oo (in brother Shaggy's voice)
You will never never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever (× infinity) be able to prove that that EVERYONE has ABSOLUTE FREEWILL!

Dont be in a hurry to meet your nemesis. I am banking on both you and kkins25 not to lose your bottle when I do send out the invite for you both to come participate in the life and death guinea pig test experiment, lmso.

Blabbermouth:
JESUS: I don't want to take this cup, let it pass over me
Almighty: Take the cup son.
JESUS: I will place your will above mine. If you want me to take the cup, your unending love for me (and mine for you) has compelled me to place your will above mine, Father, I will take it.

I am 100000% sure you must have at one time or the other in your so far short life on earth had at least an occasion to psych yourself up. Has the penny now dropped for you, lmso

Blabbermouth:
I'm 100% sure you will go the extreme and twist the definition of "will" and "freewill" in the long run, the same thing you did with Romans 9.

"¹⁸Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
¹⁹Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
²⁰Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
²¹Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
²²What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known"
- Romans 9:18-22 KJV

Let me break down Roman chapter 9 for you my beloved brother friend. It is just as I earlier had advanced to you before, in a couple of our earlier chatroom interactions, we had together. You see, I am sure that, if the shoe were on the other, and we have a reversal role, were it was you when it was time for Pharaoh to enter the world. You knowing ahead how wicked and all "bad mama jama" Pharaoh will be, you will definitely, not allow him to come into existence, and this mainly because you already know that he is bad news, but God isn't like us with a human being reasoning. God can handle and take anything that throws up. Besides, as I have always said in the past, every creation has the fundamental right to be allowed to come into existence and express itself/himself/herself. This is what Roman chapter 9 is talking about, it is talking about the sovereign choice of God and nothing at all, about the base choice of mortal human beings. I will slow down here and pause, so to give enough time to read this comment thoughtfully and to digest it well enough.

Listen, just go click on this link to read the entire Romans 9 contextually. You will see that it is talking about God's prerogative, about God's choice, about Him making choices https://biblehub.com/nlt/romans/9.htm. It is God's Sovereign Choice. He decided to allow Pharaoh, with his warts, pimples, acne and all to come into existence, though He knew Pharaoh is a bad apple. Like I said, if it was somebody like you being God, you wouldn't allow Pharaoh come into the world because of what you already know about him. This bit here is the naked truth, you dont like seeing, hearing or listening to, lmso

You tried bringing forward Romans 9:19, as if you are trying to dispute that Pharaoh was a "bad egg" like as if, you want to contest that now, lmso.

Blabbermouth, you also keep wailing and bleating about: "God said: I will harden Pharaoh's heart" and I have humbly asked you, to explain, how, in no uncertain terms, did God harden Pharaoh's heart, but what is your response. Your response Blabbermouth, was passing the buck, telling me, to go ask the Hardener. Imagine that. Smh, lmso.

VBCampaign:
Further thoughts on the scandal...

https://textandpublishing.com/the-ravi-zacharias-sex-scandal-my-thoughts/

petra1:
Either its true or not. Lets Pubish the Good news of the kingdom not bad news. It should not be from you the Phillstines should hear that Saul has perish.

2 Samuel 1:17, 19 & 20
¹⁷Then David composed a funeral song for Saul and Jonathan ..
¹⁹Oh, how have the mighty fallen!
²⁰Don’t announce the news in Gath,
don’t proclaim it in the streets of Ashkelon,
or the daughters of the Philistines will rejoice
and the pagans will laugh in triumph.

sholay2011:
I so much love this response. Perfect.

By Deji Yesufu:
The Ravi Zacharias sexting scandal is a very humbling matter.

Many Christians would prefer we do not discuss these issues at all. But I think we should; it will offer opportunity for all of us to examine those healthy boundaries we ought to have. And where we are falling short of, we make double effort to reinforce probity in those areas.

Even after death, this scandal is still swooning around the Ravi Zacharias Ministry. His wife, daughters and ministry associates are the ones left to make a defense for his reputation at the moment. All of these could have been avoided if certain basic things were done.

Fyi, 2 Samuel 1:20 is not a precept.

We can learn great things from others mistakes, if we aren't busy trying to bury them or sweep them under the carpet, and pretending they never happened. We learn from hearing about the mistake of others, we can't live long enough to personally make them, make all mistakes ourselves, but once we are made aware of them, we get to know how to with automatic alacrity extract ourselves from them if they should present themselves.

From sharing this, we learn how to not take precautionary certain basic things for granted or undone.

Janosky:
[s]Bros STOP being dishonest

Bros, so shameful you have to resort to straw man tactics.
Go and remove the 1st definite article from the opening sentence of John 1:1 in your Bible, until you do it, you no get the morale to make noise about Luke 1:32 NWT

Luke 1:32, Luke 8:28, Mark 5:7, since you don't know who is called "The Most High", just be patient.
Nursery and Primary School pupils will resume studies, seek permission to enter their class room and ask them[/s]

This portion of KJV Matthew 6:13 has no place in verse 13 and you know it:
"For yours is the Kingdom and the power and the glory,
for the eternity of eternities".

"Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom"
- Psalm 45:6

"But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom"
- Hebrews 1:8

Everyone knows Jehovah's Witnesses, will go so far to any length just to change the Bible to fit their perverted doctrines rather than just simply translate the Bible as what it originally says, same there in the original Hebrew/Greek text. Jehovah's Witnesses organisation, do this, all just to avoid ascribing Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ with Godship (i.e. to blatantly avoid calling Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, God)

Let's take the above Psalm 45:6 and Hebrews 1:8 verses for example, and ask Janosky to paste here how New World Translation (i.e. NWT, that is the Jehovah's Witnesses' official bible) translates Psalm 45:6 and Hebrews 1:8 as and lets all see, if it will be different but justifiably, lmso

Janosky:
What is "unceremoniously and cowardly" about Max owning up to his past?
[s]1 Peter 2:1
"Rid yourselves, therefore, of all malice, deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander."

Bros, if you gbadun the babe, you know how to reach her & speak your gospel.
Is she not a member of your triune body of Christ?
Forget all this grandstanding! [/s]

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There is nothing up in there in her head to gbadun my dear friend. Its empty hence the reason to fill it up with her exhibitionism.

You with the obsessed persistent "... triune body of Christ", unrelated and unconnected reference are like a dog with a bone. What's my business or concern with a or any "... triune body of Christ"

You dont know the meaning of the word "grandstanding" you've used. You used it because you think it 'll make you look as if you're bright, smart and intelligent, smh, lmso.

You can see from your comment above, that what you've all done is nothing other than talking from right inside, way up, your rear end as usual again, so now, my advice for you, is to, just calm down, take in a few deep breaths and carefully read the below quote, but taking keen interest in the emboldened. I was one the posters, if not the only poster, who stood out to speak up for late Maximus69 RIP but resurrected and otherwise now known as MaxInDHouse. I endeavour to treat people equally without discrimination, prejudice, bias et cetera and so made MaxInDHouse formerly late Maximus69 RIP, no exception to this rule

MuttleyLaff:
Ace\hart my brother, it takes clout for Maximus69 to come out and publicly admit to a past deed. He clearly is a changed man from way back then, and as since made peace with His Maker.

Now, no one has condoned rape of any sort here on the thread, certainly not Maximus69 nor I, but for someone like khi.a, to be casting the first stone, and be forming holier than thou and I am holy pass you, is just taking the biscuit. Who is she to curse/condemn whom God has not cursed/condemned. The guy (i.e. MaxInDHouse formerly late Maximus69 RIP) is a new creation, old things have passed away. All things about him have become new.

Maximus69, did not shared that past of him to gloat or to glorify that dastardly moment of weakness act(s), he was trying to make a point that went the wrong way and gave misleading perceptions. At every point, I confronted him, but you can see, he never gave me face or a response

The bible tells us no sin, is greater than another sin, that sin is sin, so who does khi.a think she is, to be wriggling in the dagger into Maximus69

khi.a is AA, whose partner is Ndigbo. She is a strong originally African woman, who gives as good as she takes, she isn't a push over. She is no emotional wreck. She can look after herself, only that she is just a hypocritical, confused of her ancestral roots sanctimonious black racist Israelite wannabe. I owe her and nobagger apologies.

Good riddance to bad rubbish, I'll say. Mtcheew

Janosky:
Bros, make we talk true, this your tenor gif meme

should have been better deployed for your tacit endorsement of what God condemned in Romans 1:26-28

You have no idea what Romans 1:26-28 is or is really about, besides why drag in unrelated and unconnected Romans 1:26-28 on to this thread, hmm?

You're so that confused dot com you dont know that "Notice that since that ex-intelligence unceremoniously and cowardly escape ..." wasn't about Max owning up to his "forcing others to have sexual intercourse with him" past, but its just exactly what it is. It simply, directly and solely, is referring to how MaxInDHouse formerly late Maximus69 RIP, without fanfare or publicity, suddenly, unexpectedly and in a wimpish way, rested and leaned his full body weight on his outdrawn and facing upwards sharp pointed end of his sword to leave for Nairaland heaven from deactivating his Maximus69 Nairaland ID account

cc: Acehart

MuttleyLaff:
Notice that since that ex-intelligence officer man's unceremoniously and cowardly escape, no one, for days on end, liked the wanton seductress femme fatale's vamped game of seduction uploaded last profile pic, so she's now put up a new pic, which I bet too, wouldnt have some much as any "lust for" like, carried out on it by anyone, again.

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Zzor:
coward

www.nairaland.com/attachments/11247301_fbimg1584345501307_jpegfd090fdc73e8c5fc31e56f4ef6632f2f
No originality. Nothing up in there than that

Acehart:
True. I guess it is his confession of being a rapist that got his profile down. Well, there will be no one to fan the ego of the seductress for a while until further notice.

Janosky:
Please can you share the link for your claim?
Thanks.

MaxInDHouse:
[s]Of course i did, back then in the world!
But they were all my girlfriends i never has sex forcefully with a total stranger, most of them even come back begging for more and a certain girl hate me till today because i stopped trying to force her when i noticed she was crying. Ever since then she tried to come back but i said "if you cry with tears because i wanted to mount you then it simply means you don't love me"
She later gave different excuses but i stood my ground that she never loved me.
But all that was back then when we were playing the boyfriend girlfriend things not now that i've learnt that even premarital sex is the same as murder before God! 1John 3:4 :[/s])

MaxInDHouse:
[s]Hmmmmmmmmmm, i never knew so many people are envious of the way and manner i give her words of comfort! 1Thessalonians 5:14 [/s]

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VBCampaign:
God bless you Muttley... Image123 cannot change

"⁸The people I am talking about are behaving just like those dreamers who destroyed their own bodies. T
hey reject all authority and insult angels.
¹⁰Yet these people slander whatever they do not understand, and the very things they do understand by instinct
--as irrational animals do--will destroy them."
Jude 1:8 &10

God bless everyone of us. If I were a betting person, I would bet that, if this is a slander, there must be some element of truth somewhere behind in it all. This isn't your typical Jude 1:8 &10 or the 2 Peter 2 earlier before Jude mentioned by Apostle Peter. All that "bigging" himself up when actually Cambridge replied back they have no record of him teaching there swayed sympathy votes away from him. Even the doctorate title seems bogus too sef ...

VBCampaign:
The RZIM is a Christian ministry that is run largely on believers’ donations to the organizations. These donations come in various ways. One way is through luncheons, where individuals are invited to hear Ravi Zacharias speak and are encouraged to give towards certain ministry endeavors. Brad and Lorie Ann Thompson, a Canadian couple based in the USA, met Ravi Zacharias in one of such luncheons in 2014. The RZIM had invited the couple and Brad had sponsored a table in the meeting and had gone ahead to support the RZIM financially too. Brad Thompson is a Christian business man who uses much of his funds to support Christian ministries around the world. After the luncheon that night, Zacharias gave the couple his personal email address and requested that they keep in touch.

At first, correspondence between them was mostly between the three but Brad is very poor with responding to emails, so eventually communications was reduced to between Zacharias and Lori Ann alone.

How convenient.

MuttleyLaff:
This link has nothing to do with person(s) mentioned in VBCampaign's original post nah

Image123:
That's her husband.

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So a man cant anymore, legitimately accuse a pastor, if he thinks the pastor has abused his position of influence in a counseling relationship to further his own business interests and those of his family by obtaining loans and investments from the plaintiff, hmm?

Image123:
Accusations after a man's death are accusations, not mounting evidence. There is no shred of evidence here, the man spoke clearly for himself when alive. It's very easy to accuse a dead man. Abacha is the only thief President in Nigeria because he is dead.

Have you at all watched the followed up video VBCampaign put up there?

Did you notice how he hurriedly went to his website to retract damaging evidence that shows he was exaggerating about his academics et cetera?
Do you know him when still alive and his outfit were informed he is being investigated to establish the truth about claims he's made, hmm?
Do you know they were given a chance to respond but they buried their heads in sand doing an incommunicado, hmm?

Image123:
https://www.thebanner.org/news/2011/01/lawsuit-filed-against-ontario-pastor-church

This link has nothing to do with person(s) mentioned in VBCampaign's original post nah

VBCampaign:
Lori Ann went to see the Basels in October 2016. By this time, she was already becoming disillusioned; not very sure what the nature of her relationship with Ravi Zacharias was. While at the Basels, Lori explained to them everything that had happened between her and Zacharias. According to a written statement by Lori Ann, which was made available to a blogger, Julie Roys, by Tamara Battiste – Lory’s sister, Zacharias had requested that Lori and himself begin to have private communications between themselves alone via email – cutting off Brad entirely. As the correspondence between the two proceeded, Zacharias requested that Lori Anne obtain a blackberry messenger app on her phone, with which he would be able to communicate with her with little or no records of their communications. All of these began in the first quarter of 2016.

One day, Zacharias expressed his love for Lori Ann and said that his marriage to his wife was some kind of contractual relationship. He was however finding a lot of joy in his new found relationship with Lori. At this point, he began to request that she sends pictures of herself to him. Gradually, he began to prod her to send seminude pictures to him; until one day he told her to him full nude pictures.

This Lori Ann gradually did, having been swept away by the promise of love from Zacharias and having been tempered by his awesome speaking abilities and vast experience. The two would usually engage in “phone intimacy” but they never met physically, nor were there any sexual relations between them. When Zacharias was 70 years old in 2016, Lori Ann sent special nude pictures of herself to him as a gift. Zacharias responded in kind by sending her gifts of necklaces and scarfs from his trip to India. They were in the middle of this virtual sex relationship when Lori’s sister encouraged her to seek counseling.

"²And it came to pass in an eveningtide, that David arose from off his bed, and walked upon the roof of the king's house: and from the roof he saw a woman washing herself; and the woman was very beautiful to look upon.
³And David sent and inquired after the woman. And one said, Is not this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite?
⁴And David sent messengers, and took her; and she came in unto him, and he lay with her; for she was purified from her uncleanness: and she returned unto her house.
⁵And the woman conceived, and sent and told David, and said, I am with child."
- 2 Samuel 11:2:5

VBCampaign, thank you sharing this. Bible 101, always extract yourself "saremosa" from compromising situation fiam fiam. See how A&E ended. See how king David ended?

Why would a married man for crying out not put his foot down and explicitly decline, there and then any future unsolicited au naturel picture(s)

Come to think of it, I only heard him glowingly speaking of his two missionary daughters but doubt I ever heard him talk about his missus. In a weird way, kind of reminds me of Ted Haggard. Do you remember Ted Haggard, hmm? Who would of thunk? Constanlt bible bashing SSA couples from the bullpiss, sorry was it meant to be unholy pulpit, yet he was cheating on his wife with a man, and top getting high as a kite on meth and lying to his missus while meeting up with the same male prostitute for three years before he got bust

Image123:
Lol, complete coc.k and bull from a known extortionist and blackmailer.

You want to turn a blind eye to the mounting evidence(s) ni, hmm?

VBCampaign:
Really? What about this??

h t tps://youtu.be/8vTB15azb0A

Oops! You bad gidigan ni oo. The world is getting smaller and smaller with nowhere anymore in peace, to hide anything

kkins25:
Me i don't see anything of these happening today.

Excellent! MuttleyLaff will respond to this im sure.

You seem to know me more than I know myself. Of course, you know, I'll throw in that, there is nothing that ever happens in the universe, that happens, without the consent of the Godhead, so affirmative, though God is responsible for allowing Satan to sin, is responsible for A&E's access to the TKGE, they ate the fruit off, responsible for permitting Pharaoh harden his heart, et cetera, God is not responsible for their bad behaviour, is not morally accounted for their behaviour, and they, you kkins25, Blabbermouth, every human being, including moi, all creatures/creation are answerable to God and not vice versa

kkins25:
interesting choice of words. Another way to put it, would be "God didn't expect things to turn out this way".

You didnt detect the irony in that "God didn't forsee it but He prepared a LAMB slain from the foundation of the world" shadeyinka comment

kkins25:
well i'll be a monkey's uncle...

Be my guest, not my circus, not my monkeys. To each his own monkeys, besides, I dont give a monkey's, seeing that again, you didnt detect the ironic tone in that shadeyinka comment

kkins25:
What is time? What is time?

"¹There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens:
²a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to uproot,
³a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down and a time to build,
⁴a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance,
⁵a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them, a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
⁶a time to search and a time to give up, a time to keep and a time to throw away,
⁷a time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be silent and a time to to speak,
⁸a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace."
- Ecclesiastes 3:1-8

kkins25, here are a few for you to order on:
1/ How we are able to keep, track time and know time, huh?
2/ Do you know why we have seasons?
3/ How we are able to know when to plant, sow and harvest?
4/ FWIW, illumination, is not the only purpose of the sun, moon and stars, you know kkins25, hmm?
5/ You do know kkins25, that the moon's purpose, is not only for mere mark time, the seasons and days and years, erhn, lmso?
6/ Are you aware of the effect what an absent moon would do to Earth and its motion about its axis, huh?
7/ This now hypothetically speaking, if the sun, miraculously should disappear, do you have any idea, how long, we will survive for, before getting frozen to death because the sun is no longer there to give out its heat energy, hmm?
8/ Do you know what causes high and low sea tides, huh?
9/ Do you understand what "Jesus replied, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by His own authority." - Acts 1:7 means?
10/ Or even understand why the "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." - Matthew 24:36, being that Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ is Yah and vice versa, lmso

I can go on, into deeper and more details on biblical cosmology and/or celestial mechanics, but wouldnt, as it will turn the discourse into information overload

Fyi, the word "time" has so many meanings and has so many usage forms, aside how used in Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 above, lmso. Now here is the interesting point kkins25, the moon, created by God, is used to tell time with, lmso, many people also know we can tell the time and the season by the stars. Case in point, the Magi, used a sighted star to tell the birth of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, or ''it wasn't time for the fig, to bear fruits'' or even, the time given in the Luke 13:6-8 narrative

shadeyinka:
Time is the measure of interval between two or more physical events.

"¹In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
²Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep.
And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.
The First Day
³And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
⁴And God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness.
⁵God called the light “day,” and the darkness He called “night.”
And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day."
- Genesis 1:1-5

"¹³And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
¹⁴And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to distinguish between day and night and to mark the seasons and days and years,
¹⁵And let them serve as lights in the expanse of the sky to shine upon the earth.” And it was so
¹⁶God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night. And He made the stars as well.
¹⁷God set these lights in the expanse of the sky to shine upon the earth,
¹⁸to preside over the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.
¹⁹And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day"
- Genesis 1:13-19

"He created the moon, which marks the seasons,
and the sun, which knows when to set"
- Psalm 104:19

"⁷He made the great lights—His loving devotion endures forever.
⁸the sun to rule the day, His loving devotion endures forever.
⁹the moon and stars to govern the night. His loving devotion endures forever."
- Psalm 136:7-8

Here's me complementing shadeyinka's comment where he responded to your "What is time?" asked twice question kkins25.

Remember Genesis 1:14 and the rest above, hmm? Of course, the sun, moon and stars are a link/bridge between the realm of the Spirit and physical, but not just that my dear friend beloved brother kkins25, but when God, on the fourth day, created the sun, moon and stars, God effectively was setting a clock, lmso.

kkins25:
muttley:
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This life erhn. People that believe there aren't any freewill, after the guinea pig experiment test, learned the hard way, after ended up waking on the different and other side of eternity, with a shocking harsh reality of life.

We'll see how you and Blabbermouth will fare if you do have the bottle to actually take the freewill guinea pig experiment test full on, lmso

jamesid29:
[s]Hummm, okay.
When you have something actually worth reading, let me know.... [/s]

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If you, knowing you are a black man, and a white person, direct to your face, point blankly decided, to call you, nigger. What comes to your mind about that person, for unapologetically with intent to hurt, calling you a nigger, hmm? Knowing fully well you aren't a nigger. What would you say the person, is, for calling you a nigger? Would it be racist person or tolerant person? Answer nah jamesid29, so I can move on, to do justice to, putting it mildly, your truculent post.

Answer the easy, direct, simple, harmless, innocent, straightforward questions you out of convenience keep ducking to answer instead of you preferring to spew this your trash here, I've just emptied

Acehart:
I’d like to ask you this: what difference is the writer of Genesis trying in convey in these two verses: Gen. c5v.iii and Gen. c1v.xxvii?

"Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it.”
(i.e. Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”)
- Genesis 1:26

"So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them"
(i.e. So God created human beings, making them to be like himself. He created them male and female)
- Genesis 1:27

"And Adam lived one hundred and thirty years, and begot a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth
(i.e. When Adam was 130 years old, he became the father of a son who was just like him—in his very image. He named his son Seth.
When Adam was 130 years old, he had a son who was like him, and he named him Seth.)"
- Genesis 5:3

It again, is about the "image is instant, while likeness is continuum"

Genesis 1:26, "Let Us make man in Our image" means, let's make humans, spirit beings, housed in a human body, as an instant physical representation or a somewhat realistic portrayal of the incorporeal Godhead.

Genesis 1:27, "Let Us make man ... according to Our likeness" means, let's make humans, spirit beings, housed in a human body, an instant physical representation or a somewhat realistic portrayal of the incorporeal Godhead having the same characteristics to Godhead or having agreeable similar qualities in the same manner the Godhead has.

The difference(s), the writer of Genesis is trying to get across, in the Genesis 1:26-27 and Genesis 5:3 verses, are the following:
1/ Genesis 1:26 conveyed the sense of making man in the Godhead's image and according to the Godhead's likeness
2/ Genesis 1:27, conveyed the sense that, only first half of Genesis 1:26 was carried out (i.e. "image is instant ...''), and carried out for the very good reason as I earlier mentioned about the second half being about "... likeness is continuum" The artist already has the image of the object the painting he/she is painting, and with every stroke of the brush, and dashes of paint, a likeness of the object slowly emerges
3/ Post Genesis 1:27, is when the likeness magic happens. It's starting point was in Eden. A&E, were a blank canvas, with nothing painted on the canvas, no character, nothing, nada, zilch. Yep, no content, but has to swing one way. The Godhead's way, as meaning, likeness of the Godhead, or an alternate way, as meaning in the likeness of that alternate way
4/ The plan of Genesis 1:26, "Let Us make man ... according to Our likeness" ended up, in the alternate way, as meaning in the likeness of that alternate way, which is Genesis 5:3 of Seth being made in the likeness of Adam, a fall from grace to grass human being. A&E, before getting out out the starting blocks, didnt pass at all, for Genesis 1:26 kind of likeness, to get started, so we had to wait circa 4000 years later to have the Genesis 1:26 likeness properly re-instituted

My apologies for holding back and so not delving more into it

jamesid29:
Lol @bolded...

I am chuffed you shifted from smiles to lol. Let's see for how long though. lmso ...

jamesid29:
This has got be one of the weirdest replies I've seen in a while. Sounds like something a bond villain would say.

Make what you may out of it and continue to zero only on the less important of my comments, OK?

jamesid29:
Anyways, I'll leave you to it then...

I'll leave you with the below quote

"... and it's been my life's joy to dive into the history of biblical scholarship and learn.
Learn more about how the bible works and what ... what it's trying to say"
- Tim Mackie, The Bible Project

Smh, being that I could see how you made a dog's dinner of your reply, and you ended up with a post that's chaotic, badly organized, very untidy, has a fake dead link to where you mentioned my ID et cetera, all because of you're bent on picking bone(s) and carping spree, purely for your own twisted truculent entertainment, I would single out and repeat the easy, direct, simple, harmless, innocent, straightforward questions you out of convenience ducked, which is:

If you, knowing you are a black man, and a white person, direct to your face, point blankly decided, to call you, nigger. What comes to your mind about that person for unapologetically with intent to hurt, calling you a nigger, hmm? Knowing fully well you aren't a nigger. What would you say the person, is, for calling you a nigger? Would it be racist person or tolerant person? Answer nah jamesid29, so I can move on, to do justice to, putting it mildly, your truculent post

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Brb asap

Offpoint1:
I'll really appreciate their contribution here...
I expected Righteousness 89 to contribute here, I have my observations about him. He dodges questions that he odd to answer as a Christian and only respond to those 'Praising' him.

There was a thread about "Musicians who are dead, but still making money"
He just jumped with "All that doesn't matter, if they died without Christ they are ALREADY IN HELL NOW

How can a human who have only 0001% understanding of God ways just concluded someone is in hell or heaven?

He forgot The Bible made a statement about " The first will be the last..." in Matthew 19:30

You have put so many wrong feet forward. Your understanding of certain phrases, like hel is wack because there is more to the meaning of hell, than its face value or what you superficially perceive what it is all about. I saw Blabbermouth's mentioning me almost instantly, but when I went through your original post, the so many holes in it, didnt encourage me to want to comment, but since you too have as well mentioned me, we'll see how the day goes, as I might return after giving some valuable time up for you, so I drop a few 2 cents and/or possibly shed light on some of the holes.

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MuttleyLaff:
"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings
(i.e. It is the glory of God to hide things but the glory of kings to investigate them.
God is praised for being mysterious; rulers are praised for explaining mysteries)"
- Proverbs 25:2

"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name,
He will teach you all things and will bring to your remembrance all things that I have said to you."
- John 14:26

"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth;
for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak;
and He will disclose to you what is to come"
- John 16:13

I dont care what cop out you want to use, but the truth of the matter is that, the brain, isn't an ornament to decorate the body with, and so, we are blessed with this powerfully built processing functional gift for a purpose, reason and such a time as this

The bible, in that Proverbs 25:2 above, states that:
"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings" or "It is God’s privilege to conceal things and the king’s privilege to discover them," so roll up your sleeves, pull out your fingers, stop sitting on your hands and get to work doing a 2 Timothy 2:15.

"Ise logun ise" loosely translated means "Work and/or study, cancels out lack of depth and its the remedy to reverse knowledge poverty with"

jamesid29, time isn't the best ally right no, but trust me, I will, asap revisit this thread, to turn your post to "shreds" smiles ....

Haylel:
"Yes, God saw every change David will make including consulting Him. The responsibility of anything God saw was David's: whatever David DID was what God saw!"- Shadeyinka

1. According to you, it was by foreknowledge God said to David "He(I.e Saul) WILL come"... Also, it was by foreknowledge God said of Keilah " They (Keilah) WILL surrender you ".
(I say this as a man)... Do you realize what just happened? IF it was by foreknowledge, God LIED to David!
What God saw from the eternal past was not " Saul coming to Keilah" but "Saul halting his plan to come when he heard the news that David has escaped". However, when David asked God if Saul WILL come, God said something not in the account of His foreknowledge.
You were forewarned not to push God's reply to David as from His foreknowing ability. Now, your belief in foreknowledge has made God a Liar

2. The belief in an existent future will automatically mean God himself has a future. You dabbled with English, threw unrelated scriptures and wrote in bolded " My dear, God does not have a future only man does ".
However, it was obvious that God's ordeal with Moses was an account that was YET TO HAPPEN at the time of Abraham. Thus, His ordeals with Moses was a Future account (I.e. what will happen in time) at the time of Abraham. Such ordeal (provided a future exist) is nothing else (no matter how you try to sugar coat it) but God's own future.
Now, if the Most High himself has a future;
I. Did he foreknow (without ordaining it) his future or did he by His own will ordain his future?
(Another brotherly advice: You will be quick to chose option 2 since it kind of secure God's control... However, you will have no choice than to end up admitting that God writing his own script will indirectly and simultaneously cause the script of the other creature to be his doing)

3. You haven't answered this
- At what point did/does God foreknow the future of everything?

"“The rich man shouted,
‘Father Abraham, have some pity!
Send Lazarus over here to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue.
I am in anguish in these flames.’"
- Luke 16:24

God, without a point and or without any particular moment in time foreknow the future of everything

I have taken the liberty to answer your question, now here's where you reciprocate and answer my question, which is:
How did/does the rich man, in Luke 16:24 seen above, without any physical sensory organ and/or without any direct connecting interaction with a physical body know that he needs to be refreshed and cooled down with water?

edoairways:
I don't need your apology because that is the fruit you bear.

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Who dash m _ _ _ _ y, banana?
Yinmu, look at this one
Who ever gave you an apology, that you think you dont need, huh?

edoairways:
That is how JW are right from time hence I wasn't surprised when I saw some of your comments.

I am not anything like you, pretending to be someone you're not. You havent a strong stomach nor the cerebral capacity to receive the so called, some of my comments

shadeyinka:
So then, was that thief a disciple?

AkinwaleJJ:
He treasured Christ's teachings in his heart making him a Christian but not ready to publicly declared it means he's not a disciple.

"⁹If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord,"
and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
¹⁰For it is by our faith that we are put right with God; it is by our confession that we are saved.
¹¹ The scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.”
¹²This includes everyone, because there is no difference between Jews and Gentiles;
(whether you're JW or not JW, lmso)
God is the same Lord of all and richly blesses all who call to Him.
¹³ As the scripture says, “Everyone who calls out to the Lord for help will be saved.”"
- Romans 10:9-13

"³²Therefore everyone who confesses Me before men,
I will also confess him before My Father in heaven.
³³But whoever denies Me before men,
I will also deny him before My Father in heaven"
- Matthew 10:32-33

"Go, then, to all peoples everywhere and make them My disciples:"
- Matthew 28:19a

The thief on the RHS of the cross Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ was hung on, publicly with his mouth confessed and this coming from believing in his heart that Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ is his Lord and Saviour, who has a kingdom at the other side of this short side of eternity, and so pleaded that Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ should remember him once He lands in His kingdom

"³⁹Then one of the criminals who were hanged blasphemed Him, saying,
“If You are the Christ, save Yourself and us.”
⁴⁰But the other, answering, rebuked him, saying,
“Do you not even fear God, seeing you are under the same condemnation?
⁴¹And we indeed justly, for we receive the due reward of our deeds; but this Man has done nothing wrong.”
⁴²Then he said to Jesus, “Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.”
⁴³And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”"
- Luke 23:39-43

The thief on the RHS of the cross Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ was hung on, didnt only tick the Romans 10:9 and Matthew 10:32 boxes, but he also ticked the Matthew 28:19 discipline/disciplining box too, when at Luke 23:40-41, he rebuked the other criminal/thief to be reasonable and see correct sense, and so dying, not just only saved, but died, a disciple too.

shadeyinka:
No sir!
What the scriptures is saying is that no one is justified by obeying the law.
Gal 3:11:
"And that none is justified in the law before God, is manifest: for, The just shall live of faith."

Gal 2:16:
"still we know that a person is not justified by the Law of Moses, but rather through faith in Christ. we have trusted in Christ Jesus, so that we might be made right with God by trusting in Him and not by the requirements of the Law of Moses. Because by such law-compliance no one can be made right with God."

Rom 3:20:
"because by the works of the Law none of all flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law [is] the knowledge of sin."

That impossibility is what you are depending on for your salvation.

You said:
Reinstitution simply means stop doing what is evil by keeping away from dead works.

Completely untrue. Restitution is PAYBACK for the wrong done as an atonement.

Luk 19:8:
"Zaccheus stood up and said to the Lord, "Lord, see! Half of what I own I will give to poor people. And if I have taken money from anyone in a wrong way, I will pay him back four times as much "

AkinwaleJJ:
Sorry i'm a lady.
OK now i get you now Sir, we were talking about two different things
Restitution and Reinstitution

Restitution means a payback or compensation for someone's loss.
But Reinstitution means amending your ways after knowing that you're not getting something right.

There is no restitutional injunction in Christianity the only thing Christians do is reinstituting their minds over what they thought was OK before the coming of Christ!

DappaD:
Are you completely sure of that?
Because me my eye dey reach ground.

AkinwaleJJ:
Hmmm are you male or female?

DappaD:
You and I both know who you are

Make it three that know who AkinwaleJJ is, because, my eyes as well, reach and dey for that ground too.

johnw47:
lie lie rozz, u as unintelligent as haddeylium
take a look at your posts: https://www.nairaland.com/zzo.r/posts
you are fighting with many, just a couple from first page:

dum dum rozz, u should join false jw's, u just like them seduce
and going to the same place as they:

Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Notice that since that ex-intelligence officer man's unceremoniously and cowardly escape, no one, for days on end, liked the wanton seductress femme fatale's vamped game of seduction uploaded last profile pic, so she's now put up a new pic, which I bet too, wouldnt have some much as any "lust for" like, carried out on it by anyone, again.

Acehart:
I grew up memorizing these very words of Samuel Smiles: “He who never made a mistake never made a discovery”. In the same vein, Marva Collins said: “If you can’t make a mistake, you can’t make anything”. As I got older, I learned of the many times Thomas Edison failed on his way to developing many devices that ushered in the era of electric power generation, mass communication, sound recording, and motion pictures. For, over a decade, the two Stephens – Wozniak and Jobs, failed in their attempt to revolutionizing the IT industry until they invented the iPod and the iPhone, devices many consider to be the greatest gadgets ever. What could be the cause of these failures that come before discovery?

Upon the creation of man, one of the “Creators“ of man said: “Let us make man…after our likeness”. Could the failure of these great inventors be linked to their being made in the “Likeness” of their Creators?

In Genesis Chapter six, we see Jehovah God expressing “grief” at the failing of the best of his inventions – man; In Moses’ anthropopathic description, he said: “And the LORD regretted that he had made man on the earth”. When God saw this invention wasn’t working according to “design”, He re-adapted the earth with the flood that wiped off everything (except Noah and his household). Is this failure? It seemed like what Thomas Edison said in an interview held in his lab:” I have not failed. I've just found ten thousands ways that won't work”.

But one would ask: Why would an All-knowing, All-powerful God, make such a creature that exposes some form of “weakness” in Him, the All-powerful one? The secret to fathoming what was in God’s mind is to see that there is an emotion and conundrum behind the poser: “Let us make man…after our likeness”.

Many women around the world have both breasts surgically removed as a precaution against breast cancer; many people around the world have made the decision not to be married because they think they would not become great parents to their children. Despite all good advice from doctors, many women decide against mastectomy; and many people go ahead to have children even when there are indications that they would not be great parents. Then the worst happens: The woman whose breasts are attacked by cancer fights tooth and nail to save her life; and the woman whose son is charged with homicide, fights for the life of her son; with tears in her eyes, she even claims she is the one who committed the crime so that she may keep him from going to the penitentiary – Both displaying the best attribute in the hearts of men – the act of redemption.

Of all the creatures and possessions of God, only one was made with the power of choice - man. In order to enforce man’s ability of decision or free-will, Satan was made. For had God not made Satan, man would not have free-will and would be like the rest of the creatures of God. (This is not to say God created sin; sin is the perverting the ability to choose right; and evil is the consequence of sin). When man fell, the best attribute of God erupted –the act of redemption. Every time man fails, God seems to say: “The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time”.

This is the meaning of an invention: the device has reached a state of perfection. Until man reaches a state of perfection, Satan will abide; for this reason, Christ Jesus came so that man can reach the state of perfection. The perfection of man marks the expiration of Satan. For now, Satan is very essential for man’s expression of free-will. Without him/it, we would be like the angels.

When those words in Genesis were spoken, courage was behind the tone; had the Creators of men buckled at the idea of making such a creature that had the capacity to be beyond its Creators’ control, then God is not “All-mighty”; that crown should be given to “fear”.

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MuttleyLaff:
Its not simply and just okay, but the summation that "Conception, fertilisation, impregnation et cetera is different to delivery, childbirth et cetera." is incontrovertible fact

You dont know what you're talking about. Go check my timeline, to see that I have just returned from a brief hiatus

Pesin way $hit for ground no dey remember, nah pesin way clean up the mess who does. It is well.

So you dont know what "id", "ego" and "super-ego" are, yet you recklessly was throwing about the term "ego"

There's no point in me reinventing the wheel, hence why I reposted that discourse, so to save me time, repeating myself or typing up all over again, something I've previously shed light on before

I did not take anything you wrote personally, it was merely a case of, I observed a developed pattern, worth mentioning

Sure some people have the anointing for being in a place like this for long periods because God gives such person the grace.

We all have access to an equal amount of anointing. The size and proportion you present determines the intensity, level, degree and/or amount of anointing you get back. If any dont have, you should pray to God, who will give it to you because God gives to all, generously, graciously and without criticizing.

Sure some people have the anointing for being in a place like this for long periods because God gives such person the grace

I dont get sucked in to the divide and conquer, dont subscribe to divide and rule and certainly dont buy into discrimination, bigotry, sexual prejudice, intolerance, parochialism et cetera

Amen.

I am equipped to when appropriate and led, to give as good, as I get.

I cant ever, get tired of typing, that, there'd be less christians, if only more christians, properly read their bibles.

"²⁶Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness,
to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock,
and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it.
²⁷So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him;
male and female He created them"
- Genesis 1:26-27

I like red, as the colour, exudes an air of love, romance, boldness, courage, danger etcetera to me. We, human beings, are the image representation of different attributes of God. God is incorporeal, but created, human beings to physically project different aspect, images and likeness of the Godhead.

Image is instant, while likeness is continuum. The latter, is evident in Genesis 1:27, as seen above. Notice that the mention of "likeness" is left unsaid, in Genesis 1:27. Why? its because its continuum. Now, it is unfortunate that, ever since God took the adventure to create man in His image and likeness, man retrospectively has had the desire to want to return the favour and wilfully contravene "The Second Commandment" (i.e. Exodus 20:4- You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth) by creating God in his image, according to an atypical representation, formulation, theory, perverted idea, and classic misrepresentation of God

God is, incorporeal, hence has no clear definite shape or size, but Jesus Christ, is the product of God, projecting Himself out, as a human being in the person of Jesus Christ on earth. Jesus Christ is the visible image of the invisible God (i.e. 2 Corinthians 4:4b - Christ, who is the image of God and Philippians 2:6-7 - ⁶Though he was God, He did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.⁷Instead, He gave up his divine privileges; He took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When He appeared in human form. Or, Colossians 1:15 - Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation)

No you havent at all, digressed to much. I am sort of a dabbler, a wonderer and a wanderer, hence why, the Spirit of Truth, guides on how to eat hay with the likes of Dr. Michael Heiser and the others, and when or how, to spit out the sticks.

You jump to conclusions. I never said you abhorred me or have ill feelings towards me. I inferred that I observed a developed pattern

As a believer, God has not given us, a spirit of timidity, but He gives us power, love, sound mind and/or sound judgment (i.e. 2 Timothy 1:7)

"And the LORD regretted that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.
(i.e. So the LORD was sorry He had ever made them and put them on the earth. It broke His heart.
The LORD was sorry that He had made humans on the earth, and He was heartbroken.)"
- Genesis 6:6

What stood out in your extraordinary and delightful post up there, and what gelled for me is that, and put in one sentence, is that, image is instant, while likeness is continuum I doff my hat. Wehdone Sir!

Mind you Acehart, aside man who is made a little lower than angels, angels too had the gift of freewill, which is tantamount to choice.

Another thing, is about the Hebrew word "nacham" used in Genesis 6:6 seen above and translated into English as "regretted", it actually carries the sense of being sad, a sense of being disappointment that man have not fulfilled their capable, full and expected potential. It is expressing a feeling of sadness or disappointment over all the bad things and/or atrocities man has done, and this talking especially about up to in the circa Nephilim, sons of God and daughters of men times, they have carried out, only Noah failed to do or participate. Only Noah, in his generation, did the right thing.

It broke God's heart, that man has let Him down, in spite of .... so, all God had left was to resign to console Himself, with the thought, that He, when all's said and done, did his best for A&E, and of course, by association man/mankind. God in His infinite mercy and fairness, had already declared He'll give man/mankind 120 years (i.e. 3 generations) to change their thinking and/or amend their ways
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"bogie wogie" analysis

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It's always genkins unearthing these videos

genkins:
Controversial OAP daddyfreeze has once again thrown a shade at Nigerian pastors, claiming that there is no holy spirit in Nigerian churches as he is alive and well weeks after pastors cursed him out.

In his teachings on 'the evolution of pentecostalism', he made this assertion, that compared with the early church, there is no holy spirit because Nigerian Churches base thier teachings on the Law of sin and Death(tithing, first fruits, prophetic offerings etc) for thier selfish gain.
This law, he says, christ has already done away with.

Roman's 10:4 Nlt

For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given. As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God.

Matt 5:18 NIV

For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Watch below

h t tps://youtu.be/9-O_-olYixI

Watch the full video in daddyfreeze/daddyfreezeteaches on YouTube

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Truth's a bitter pill to swallow.

jamesid29:
Smiles...

I am chuffed finding you smiling. Let's see for how long though. Smiles ...

jamesid29:
Aaron and Miriam were petty and jealous, yes... but racist, naa (at least not in the way you're thinking of racism)

Aaron and Miriam already have been jealous that Zipporah had the Bridegroom of blood revelation of whom the person of Yahshua Ha Mashiach is. The other gripe they had is detailed in Exodus chapter 11 where there was a devolution of power upon the advice given to Moshe aka Moses, by his father-in-law, Jethro, of course, the father of Zipporah. What broke Aaron and Miriam's camel's back that fuelled more the flame, was the event in Numbers chapter 11 of the appointment of 70 elders where God took some of the Spirit that was on Moses and placed that Spirit on the seventy elders. This further devolution of power and the 70 elders prophesying tipped Aaron and Miriam over the edge, and really got them incensed, that the intro of Numbers chapter 12 started with them having a go at Moses, but getting back at him through bad-mouthing Zipporah, his wife and hence the racial slur.

jamesid29:
You see, ancient people did not divide races into black and white and look at people of darker skin as less because of their skin colour. That way of thinking is more of a modern construct that was especially intensified during the transatlantic slave trade as a justification for what they were doing. People didn't think like that in the ancient world, not even during the greco-roman period (skin colour really didn't play a role in the subjugation of people).

What they did have though, was a sense of nationality. Especially for the children of Isreal, who considered and knew themselves to be a special people (A chosen people of God). In that sense, anybody outside of that unique identity would be considered an outsider (even though they had multiple laws telling them to treat the resident foreigner just like they would treat a fellow isrealite). So here Cushite would refer to Cushan which was interchangeable with Midian (Hab 3:7) at the time... and not Cush (area South of Egypt down to east Africa).

I do remember advising that when my posts are posted, interlocutors shouldn't again, ever, jump on them and/or automatically mention me in them. Better still, dont even, ever consider reading them, talkless respond to any, because most interlocutors, just chomp my posts, biting off far more than they can chew, this apart from, trying to take in, that which is, too difficult for weak stomachs to handle and will only end up with having stomach severe pains.

I typed of someone deliberately calling someone an ethnic group she isn't, and you are going on about black and white. Who said anything about anyone looking at people of darker skin as less because of their skin colour? Are you trying to tell things, I already know or what? Where from in my post, did you conjure up subjugation from. Smh.

Now if you want to play a double whammy semantic conflating Cushite with Cushan and the proof-texting using Habakkuk 3:7 cards, that's cool

If you disagree that from biblical and historical usage, the term "Cushite(s)" does not refer to the Nubian people group, area South of Egypt down to East African origin, then please give another instance apart from your star Habakkuk 3:7 isolated verse of the word "Cushan" ever used elsewhere to refer to “Cush/Cushites" in the Bible

jamesid29:
So yeah, Miriam and Aaron were being petty and trying to undermine Moses authority by using intermarriage to an outsider as an excuse, but being called a Cushite is not being racist in the same way of calling someone a Nigger. (That's more of a post biblical concept)

Contextomy at play here, when what I actually typed was "Miriam ... she deliberating called Zipporah, a Cushite. It is like, when racists, calls a black man, a nigger." The difference is clear in what I exactly typed and mean to what you chose to misrepresent what I typed to.

If you, knowing you are a black man, a white person, direct to your face, point blankly decided, to call you, nigger. What comes to your mind about that person for unapologetically with intent to hurt, calling you a nigger, hmm? Knowing fully well you aren't a nigger. What would you say the person is or calling you a nigger? Would it be racist or tolerant person?

jamesid29:
Another thing to note is that, the text itself doesn't specify that it was Zipporah that was being addressed here. People just generally assume that it's her because we're told of her in Exodus 2:21, so basically she's just graft her into this story. But it does not necessarily follow though.

Of course Miriam just drafted her in because she has been seething from day one that Zipporah had the Bridegroom with blood revelation, the gift of the 70 elders prophesying opened up an old wound, broke her camel's back, she couldn't hold in any longer, that she just let go, erupting. Zipporah, Moses' wife was a low hanging fruit for her to pick on to throw at Moses

jamesid29:
.... The lady here could be a new wife of Moses (one of the people who came out with them from Egypt), this is the more straight forward way of reading the text. The scriptures itself gives very little information about Moses's personal and family life.

So, in short, you rather, your account be taken as more plausible right, hmm, lmso? You think it was only Aaron and Miriam, that were jealous, right, abi? You just made me laugh. Smh. Joshua had the good sense, not to talk out of turn but ask whether he should shut up the prophesying seventy elders, smh. You just havent the clue, lmso

jamesid29:
In either case, the Bible doesn't seem to dwell on it, as their excuse was superficial anyway. The Bible mainly dwells on the real reason for the outburst (which was challenging Moses's authority/standing ) as seen by God's reply in Num 12:4-10

You've merely just reinforced one of my earlier points, that Keturah, just like Zipporah, are sets out of the most ignored significant women in the Bible, and that the Bible doesnt at all dwell or bother to waste ink on, giving an air impression of lack of interest, stand-offishness and/or indifference. Maybe because after all we lived/live in a patriarchal/ man's world and/or even patristic exegesis.

Anyway, be busy there, as usual, as you proof-text with Num 12:4-10, OK? Wehdone Sir!

Have you reviewed Numbers chapter 11 right up to Numbers 12:1-2 at all, so to examine the build up and backdrop that led to Miriam's outburst, huh? Smh, go back nah to reading the whole Numbers chapter 11 and then after, return to paste here what Numbers 11:14-17 and Numbers 11:25-29 in black and white prints, so we do a peer review together with what you paste

Sermwell:
The concept of religion doesn't make sense to me at all. I have a lot of questions I want to ask but we seem not to be ready for this conversation. One of the questions is the picture attached below.
Does anybody feel same or I'm the only one??

Blabbermouth:
A Just Judge will never send a suspect to prison or proclaim execution until the suspect has been tried, trialed and found guilty as charged.
Until Judgment is passed on Satan, a just God should not just execute him or send him to eternal prison.
Ask other bugging questions by God's grace and revelation you will receive satisfactory answers.

"³⁶I can guarantee that on judgment day people will have to give an account of every careless word they say.
(i.e. I tell you, on Judgment Day people will give an account for every thoughtless word they have uttered,)
³⁷By your words you will be declared innocent, or by your words you will be declared guilty."
(i.e. On that day they will be told they are either innocent or guilty because of the things they have said
The words you say will either acquit you or condemn you.)"
- Matthew 12:36-37

"Yes, each of us will give a personal account to God
(i.e. All of us will have to give an account of ourselves to God)"
- Romans 14:12

"All of us must appear in front of Christ's judgment seat.
Then all people will receive what they deserve for the good or evil they have done while living in their bodies"
- 2 Corinthians 5:10

"They will give an account to Him who is ready to judge the living and the dead.
(i.e. They will face a reckoning before Jesus Christ who stands ready to judge the living and the dead)"
- 1 Peter 4:5

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"They began screaming at Him,
“Why are you interfering with us, Son of God?
Have you come here to torture us before God’s appointed time?”"
- Matthew 8:29

"Ha! What have you to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth?
Have you come to destroy us?
I know who you are—the Holy One of God.”"
- Luke 4:34

"and shouting with a loud voice, he said,
"What business do we have with each other, Jesus, Son of the Most High God?
I implore You by God, do not torment me!""
- Mark 5:7

Blabbermouth, dont fret, everyone will have their fair hearing in court and of course, in front of an Incorruptible Judge. The devils knows this, also believe and tremble.

edoairways:
Mr man you are scattering.

I make no apology for scattering, scattering thorns for those walking barefooted. The thing is, we learned from history, that time is a snitch, time tells and with time, the grossest deception do eventually get exposed, if scattering doesnt get to exposing it, first

edoairways:
I don't need to prove to you anything ...

Young man, no one asked that you need to prove to anyone anything. You were asked to reveal what Luke 17:3, 1 Timothy 5:20 says, or even Titus 2:15, but especially, noting the last sentence in that Titus 2:15 verse

edoairways:
... Mr Jehovah witness

Look at you, clutching at straws, trying to define me.