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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness Teaches That God Stole The Body Of Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 7:04am On Sep 28, 2020
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I am fortunately not into kissing male arse.
Put it down to vagina envy, luckily
So, by the power vested in me,
I now pronounce you, Aboks ... ignoranus and irrelevant ...
and you may now... kiss my arse and anus too, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness Teaches That God Stole The Body Of Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 7:00am On Sep 28, 2020
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness Teaches That God Stole The Body Of Jesus by MuttleyLaff:
MightySparrow:
Please more explanation on what spiritual looks like.
"He will take our weak mortal bodies and change them into glorious bodies like His own,
using the same power with which He will bring everything under His control
(i.e. Through His power to bring everything under His authority,
He will change our humble bodies and make them like His glorified body)
"
- Philippians 3:21

Spiritual bodies looks like the glorified body of resurrected Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, and behaves just like how that glorified body did.

It has a look of a transformed and more elevated representation than what and how the body is known or used to known as by others. The disciples at first didn't immediately recognise Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, in His glorified body form. It is the stuff surrealism is made from, lmso

Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ' inner caucus, in the persons of Peter, John, and James, though in Matthew 17:2 and/or Luke 9:29 had a prior foretaste of this, they still couldn't easily recognise Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness Teaches That God Stole The Body Of Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 6:18am On Sep 28, 2020
Ken4Christ:
I really wonder why adherents of some religious groups don't use their brains. They just follow without questioning when they have the opportunity to read the Bible for themselves.

In case you are not aware, the Jehovah Witness don't believe in the bodily resurrection of our Lord Jesus. They claimed he resurrected spiritually without his body.

They said God took his body and since there is no such record in the Bible, it is as good as saying that God stole the body of Jesus. So, they label God as a thief. Read their quote below from their own book; you can live forever in paradise on earth.

'Well, then, what happened to Jesus' fleshly body? Did not the disciples find his tomb empty? They did, because God removed Jesus' body. Why did God do this? It fullilled what had been written in the Bible. (Psalm 16:10; Acts 231) Thus Jehovah saw fit to remove Jesus' body, even as he had done before with Moses' body. (Deuteronomy 34.5, 6) Also, if the body had been left in the tomb, Jesus' disciples could not have understood that he had been raised from the dead, not fully appreciate spiritual things.'(Page 144)

In addition, they label Jesus as a trickster. They said Jesus just appeared in a physical body the way Angels do. In other words, he tricked them to believe he was raised in a physical body. Read their quote from the same book;


But since the apostle Thomas was able to put his hand into the hole in Jesus' side, does that not show that Jesus was raised from the dead in the same body that was nailed to the stake? No, for Jesus simply materialized or took on a fleshly body, as angels have done in the past. In order to convince Thomas who he was, he used a body with wound holes. (Page 145).

Please, humble yourselves and admit you have believed lies all these years. Even a 3 years old child in his right sense won't believe all these lies
.
Blabbermouth:
Seriously?! That's very very very very unscriptural!
The account of Thomas' ordeal with Jesus(Ressurected) made us understand that Jesus ressurected not as a spirit, anything different from this is a lie concoted from the HQ of the fallen ones.
"He will take our weak mortal bodies and change them into glorious bodies like His own,
using the same power with which He will bring everything under His control
(i.e. Through His power to bring everything under His authority,
He will change our humble bodies and make them like His glorified body)
"
- Philippians 3:21

Yahshua Ha Mashiach, aka Jesus Christ, resurrected with a glorified body
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Michael The Christ? by MuttleyLaff: 11:05pm On Sep 27, 2020
WoundedLamb:
[s]Heartwarming response smiley

You might want to take out time to educate your friend above on how to engage people with decorum. His/her responses don't make room for a non fallacious conversations.[/s]
Are you still here?. What the foxtrot, uniform, charlie, kilo are you waiting and lurking behind for? Scram!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Michael The Christ? by MuttleyLaff: 11:03pm On Sep 27, 2020
WoundedLamb:
[s]I was actually hoping for a healthy Christian conversation but your response is full of sarcasms that suggest you are only gearing up for a fight and not a chat. I'm sorry for commenting on y'all's thread. Let me go with my underused brain. Have fun![/s]
You think too highly of your sanctimonious moralising on love self, who do you think has valuable and precious time to want to have a fight with you.

You think OP that opened the thread did so out of a dearth of love ni, hmm? Have you any idea what Matthew 28:19a means and is all about, erhn? That thread was purposely created so interested and curious minds could learn from it, but all you did was to waltz in to pooh pooh and piss on the fella's thread, strutting upandan all over the post, as if like an overpriced and over feathered peacock and ṣhitting on the post

If you dont want to know, then keep it to yourself, dont shoot down another man's innocent and harmless effort, with your defeatist, despondent dispirited and low self-esteem comments. It's posters like you with toxic comments like you made about someone's else post that stifles their gifting.

If you dont know things, you lack knowledge/wisdom, you're expected to God, who liberally, abudantly, and generously gives to all without finding fault (i.e. James 1:5) What's your problem sef? Who do you? Why pissing on another man's parade?

Go and dont slap the door after you angry angry angry
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Michael The Christ? by MuttleyLaff: 10:42pm On Sep 27, 2020
adegbenga80592 get someone close to you to sacrifice one to two hours showing you how to effectively post comments on the forum.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Michael The Christ? by MuttleyLaff: 10:22pm On Sep 27, 2020
Acehart:
I wonder why a moniker bearing the name “wounded lamb” would have such a reaction. undecided
Tough love wording comment loading ....

WoundedLamb:
There are some questions to which we do know the answer. But there are other questions to which the best answer we can give is, ‘I don’t know.’ ‘The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us’ (Deuteronomy 29:29a). The culture, positions and power hierarchies of heaven doesn't necessarily affect the message of salvation and it's better we accept we don't understand the dynamics than to come up with theories just to support out opinions. Such opinionated teachings only bring more division and misunderstanding. Why not concentrate on the message of love which is simple, complete and straightforward?
"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings
(i.e. It is the glory of God to hide things but the glory of kings to investigate them.
God is praised for being mysterious; rulers are praised for explaining mysteries)
"
- Proverbs 25:2

"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name,
He will teach you all things and will bring to your remembrance all things that I have said to you.
"
- John 14:26

"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth;
for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak;
and He will disclose to you what is to come
"
- John 16:13

You've with such a descriptive ID, prolly have been abused, misused or gotten confused up, but I am almost on the verge of typing that I dont care what cop out you want to use, as the truth of the matter is that, the brain, isn't an ornament to decorate the body with, and so, we are blessed with this powerfully built processing functional gift for a purpose, for a reason(s) and for such a time(s) as this/these. Feel free to underuse your brain. OK?
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Prove That Christianity Is Not Paganism? by MuttleyLaff: 10:09pm On Sep 27, 2020
donnie:
[s]Alright... So far no Christian has been able to defend the pagan doctines of Christianity... Only the regular frustrated trolls barking and squeaking off-topic.

Just today, a Pastor friend came visiting. He brought up an argument regarding a facebook post I shared. As expected, he had to cut his visit short and flee... Not like I expected anything different. When you dont want to repent and you cannot beat or insult me, only option left is to run away. grin cheesy grin[/s]

So with that, I'll say SHALOM.
Look at him. Yinmu ...
No peace for the twisting the whole and entire narrative wicked (i.e. Isaiah 48:22)
Christianity Etc › Re: Should Christian Women Wear Trousers? by MuttleyLaff: 9:37pm On Sep 27, 2020
Image123:
You'd need a couple of new pairs soon at this rate.
I just slip them back on. Good exercise too and all, that is, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Michael The Christ? by MuttleyLaff: 9:35pm On Sep 27, 2020
Acehart:
Cc: Muttleylaff
I endorse 10000% without demur

WoundedLamb:
It's actually funny when humans tell tales of heavenly culture, positions and hierarchies like it's one town in Ogun state. Y'all mustn't have answers to everything. It's ok not to know.
The bible, in Proverbs 25:2, states that:
"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings" or "It is God’s privilege to conceal things and the king’s privilege to discover them," so it's not OK not to know, but its OK to roll up your sleeves, pull out your fingers, stop sitting on your hands and get to work doing a 2 Timothy 2:15.

"Ise logun ise" loosely translated means "Work and/or study, cancels out lack of depth and its the remedy to reverse knowledge poverty with"
Christianity Etc › Re: Should Christian Women Wear Trousers? by MuttleyLaff: 9:26pm On Sep 27, 2020
Image123:
A tribute to Emary the great, you have done well Muttley. BTW, this your lmso, what's up? Laughing your socks off?
I for real, literally am lmso, Image123.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Prove That Christianity Is Not Paganism? by MuttleyLaff:
donnie:
Paul was a black man, he was mistaken for Egyptian.

Acts 21:37-38
[37]And as Paul was to be led into the castle, he said unto the chief captain, May I speak unto thee? Who said, Canst thou speak Greek?
[38]Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?


Please can we go back to subject.
I am sorry to say but I am biting my tongue not say and print how ignorant you're trying so hard to be here. Why couldn't the chief captain see every Jew to be Egyptian, but it is only Paul that he's mistaken for an Egyptian. Josephus who documented the real Egyptian that the child captain mistook Apostle Paul for, never portrayed the Jews ever to be blacks or black skinned. Or you want to say, the historian, Titus Flavius Josephus, born Yosef ben Matityah, a Jew, is black, hmm? Wonders shall never cease and Yaba Left coming, is calling lmso

donnie:
Kindly defend your Chriatian pagan practices and lawlessness.
You're an incorrigible blind dingbat for making this ignorant comment. Mtcheew
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Prove That Christianity Is Not Paganism? by MuttleyLaff: 9:07pm On Sep 27, 2020
jmoore:
You just dropped another fabrication.
donnie:
Whatever, prove it.
[img]https://s5/images/ezgif-2-bb81ab7ea10d.gif[/img]
Nothing is in the tank, lmso
So shifts the burden of proof
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Prove That Christianity Is Not Paganism? by MuttleyLaff: 9:04pm On Sep 27, 2020
donnie:
Only those who are ignorant orlf real history tow that line of reasoning. You mean to tell me that you dont know that those are not the original populations of those regions? Jews has always been black as well documented accounts of Jews in Europe testify.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/11693682_equator_pngd9b0890fdf7ad3415fba32f412e80968

Is Apostle Paul black? Is Apostle Stephen who evangelised to the Ethiopian eunuch, just as black as the Ethiopian, hmm? When Pontius Pilate was conversing with Yahshua Ha Mashich aka Jesus Christ was he talking with a black-sinned, black faced Yahshua Ha Mashich aka Jesus Christ, hmm?

There are no North African or Mediterranean region countries on any tropic so unlike tropical countries, North African or Mediterranean region countries, don't naturally have black skinned people, that's a fact, so with that nugget in mind the Jews aka Israelites were yellow sapphire, olive skinned, or varying shades of reddish brown, just as scripture say king David et al were (i.e. on a spectrum of light reddish brown to dark reddish brown)

donnie:
Is sub-saharan Africa hotter than the Middle East?
The Middle East does not lie on any of the tropic lines hence wouldnt be as hotter as any of the Sub-Saharan Africa countries that lie or are closer to the tropics.

The tropics include the equator, Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn and because the tropics get more exposure to the sun, any persons/people living near/on tropics automatically are black skinned.

donnie:
[s]Why do you think those fake Jews are have one of the highest rate of skin cancer in the world? And they are the ones you claim built the pyramids[/s]
Non-sequitur

donnie:
Weather will not change a white man to a negro. That's is why the negroes taken to America have not become white ever since except those who mixed with serpent seed. Those mixed race people in the middle East are the result of the mixture of BLACK North African Berbers/Moors with white European women.

This mixing of whites (Turks and Romans) with the black North African population is largely reponsible for the so-called white Arabs, or light skinned North African, or the socalled Middle-Easterner. Those fake Jews are Europeans from the ancient Turkish Khazaria empire, Germany and Polland. They are EDOM.
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Smh. Knack us tori about this "why the negroes taken to America have not become white ever since except those who mixed with serpent seed" I particularly, I am interested in the serpent seed angle, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by MuttleyLaff: 8:39pm On Sep 27, 2020
Blabbermouth:
1. God, before the foundation of the world has always been "The Father", in the same light as how the lamb has been slain before the foundation of the world. However, that dimension of Him became accessible when Jesus was on earth. That dimension became a reality when I got born again.
When I asked the question, that at which point did God become God, the Father, of course this was asked in relation and in connection with Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, God the Son or Son of God, so please quit trying to show off with all these wild someone who wants to appear to be clever remarks, lmso.

Blabbermouth, you're a single man who has yet to copulate with a female to the point of procreating and making you a father. In the absence of the preceded ever happening, you aren't at any point yet a father. Nobi so? OK, read further on then, lmso

Teacher: How old is your father?
Kid: He is 6 years
Teacher: What? How is this possible?
Kid: He became father only when I was born

I used the above to break the ice between us and hopefully, second time coming, look forward to getting a better response from you, when I hereby again ask you, that at which point did God become God, the Father, hmm?

Blabbermouth:
2. God Almighty never became God the son (hahahahahahaha, Glory!)
I thought you said you re-watched the video, and that this time, paying attention to every details, hmm?

I guess you must have slept and didnt pay attention to 01:14-01:46 minute mark of the video, the part that was all I particularly wanted you to hear and I was interested in you to watch because, that's the part of the video, that will give you an idea of what the Greek world "exerchomai" demonstratively and a form of acted out way means and is, so God Almighty did by "exerchomai" become God the son (i.e. God incarnate)

Blabbermouth:
Yes I do.
You do? OK then please tell:
1/ Why God on three occasions never revealed what His personal name is?
2/ Give the reason given for God turning down the requests to know what His personal name is, then.

Blabbermouth:
"There are at least 3 heavens" - Spot on!
Extra-biblical sources claim there are seven heavens though, lmso

Blabbermouth:
You can enlighten me, can't you?
You want me to play Bob the Builder
when really you have to do your own building up and growing, lmso, hmm?

OK ooo, for starters, I'll beam a torch into the room, which just enough light to make you wander in to the room and begin to confidently walk around in it, and make the self discovery all by yourself, lmso. Thrones, signify a seat of authority, simply put, its the chair where Royalty sits, lmso, so heaven is the chair where God seats, lmso and the earth is His footstool. lmso. I earlier warned and told you that orisirisi nkan lo nshẹlẹ ni heavens. Thrones and footstools are elements and functions of something, some place even bigger, lmso

Aside the Yoruba calling God "Eledumare" or "Olodumare" they affectionately describes Him as "Awamaridi" loosely translated means the "Unfathomable One", lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Prove That Christianity Is Not Paganism? by MuttleyLaff: 8:19pm On Sep 27, 2020
OkCornel:
donnie aka eplanning, reply this post and the other one on Jeremiah 13 v 23 nau cheesy cheesy

While we are awaiting your take on the DNA analysis on ancient Hebrews buried in the land of Israel.
donnie:
Only a dumb fellow will use Jeremiah 13:23 as argument that Jews are white.
"Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots?
then may you also do good, that are accustomed to do evil?
(i.e. Can an Ethiopian change the color of his skin? Can a leopard take away its spots?
Neither can you start doing good, for you have always done evil.)
"
- Jeremiah 13:23

OkCornel, you are giving this confused dot com fella too much credit that he doesnt deserve having and expecting him to do an exegete and/or hermeneutic on Jeremiah 13:23, when he knows f all about Jeremiah 13:23. He cant give what he doesnt have in that his empty upstairs cranium.

What he's only skilled at, is rummaging through bias bigoted black supremacism sites, to regurgitate the bile and trash upandan the forum and trawling through black supremacist beliefs racist books to come paste screenshots showing him with his bony finger scrawling the pages

Everyone except him knows that people from the Mediterranean Sea region are not in any measure white nor can they be called white skinned or ever black-skinned people. I am yet to read anyone on the thread that has typed that Jeremiah 13:23 validates Jews to be white. Smh

It is a given fact that the people from the Mediterranean Sea region are sapphire, olive green, reddish brown, ruddy skinned in complexion. Now donnie, look at the leopard. What predominantly is its fur colour, hmm?

Dont overtax your tired and overstretch gray matter, as I'll gladly and freely volunteer the info. The base color of the leopard's fur coat is cream-yellow (i.e. sapphire yellow) on the belly and it darkens slightly to an orange-brown on the back with a dappling of solid black marked spots, lmso. An Ethiopian, a black-skinned person cant change the color of his/her skin, the leopard cant change the solid black marked spots on its cream-yellow (i.e. sapphire yellow) furcoat.

It will interest you to know donnie, that, its impossible for the Jews to miraculously change their skin complexion from cream-yellow (i.e. sapphire yellow), olive green, reddish brown, ruddy skinned in complexion to overnight become black skinned, which they never in the first place ever were, lmso

donnie:
Amos 9:7
Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the LORD.
Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir?


All these nations (Egypt, Ethiopia, ISRAEL) were black African Nations, WAKE UP from muguland.

Please back to the topic of this thread. Defend your idolatry and paganism using SCRIPTURES or go get busy elsewhere.
It is only a deaf, dumber and blind guide fella leading fellow blinds who will use Amos 9:7 as an argument that all these nations Egypt, Ethiopia, ISRAEL named were black African Nations, smh. Pesin wey den don use hin brain do part exchange with, mtcheew. KMT
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Prove That Christianity Is Not Paganism? by MuttleyLaff: 4:38pm On Sep 27, 2020
OkCornel:
Of course it's Judah, but obviously not about the skin complexion of its inhabitants.

How about you chew on Lamentations 4 v 7-8 from the same prophet?

Lamentations 4 v 7-8;
7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:
8 Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.

Donnie aka eplanning, kindly explain to us how Bantu/Black Hebrews fit into the above description?

And while you are chewing on that, are you ready to discuss on the DNA test results of ancient Hebrews buried in the land of Israel?
Simple genetic evidence will bring your Bantu/Black Hebrew house of lies crashing down...
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lmso at "How about you chew on..." and "while you are chewing on that, are you ready to discuss on the DNA test results of ancient Hebrews buried in the land of Israel?"
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by MuttleyLaff: 4:02pm On Sep 27, 2020
Blabbermouth:
I ought to respond to some things in your reply but I will wait for you to modify first (for it felt like there is more you want to say but time won't permit).
Answer all my queries and questions in my recent post up there. Dont worry, as I will revert to filling in more details I couldn't earlier do. I am standing on the road responding this back to you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Prove That Christianity Is Not Paganism? by MuttleyLaff: 3:08pm On Sep 27, 2020
donnie:
Disprove these sources and prove to me here that the Children of JUDAH (where MESSIAH cane from) were not black with nappy/wooly hair. Prove it and stop foaming in the mouth.
https://www.out.com/sites/default/files/2015/03/12/grooming_vincent_hair_out_c.jpg

"My darling, you are lovely, so very lovely
--as you look through your veil, your eyes are those of a dove.
Your hair tosses about as gracefully as goats coming down from Gilead.
"
- Song of Solomon 4:1

"10My beloved is white and ruddy (i.e. having a healthy red colour complexion), the chiefest among ten thousand.
11His head is as the most fine gold, his locks are bushy, and black as a raven.
"
- Song of Solomon 5:10-11

donnie, you dont need Sirmwill inviting Righteousness89 to you here, when you already have the likes of nsiba, OkCornel and moi, yours truly, snapping up on your heel, lmso. Now here are a few questions for you to contend with, if you go gree show be that, because the last I checked, you don't of the recent, like encounters with me, nsiba or OkCornel, lmso. Anyways the easy, simple, direct, innocent, harmless and straightforward questions are:
1/ Who are the subjects of discussion in and Song of Solomon 4:1 and Song of Solomon 5:10-11 above please, hmm?
2/ Do they appear to be that of Sub-Saharan Africa people group, hmm?
3/ Do Sub-Saharan Africa female black skinned people group's afro hair toss about as gracefully as goats streaming down or as if like flock of goats bounding down the hills of Gilead, hmm?

donnie:
... Art is from Assyrian Relief, British Museum.



OkCornel:
Awww, donnie aka eplanning is playing the Ostrich to DNA evidence on ancient Hebrews buried in Israel cheesy cheesy cheesy

nsiba, Muttley\Laff, please take note smiley
OkCornel:
donnie aka eplanning, Happy Sunday to you too

Are you now ready to discuss on the DNA test results of ancient Hebrews buried in Israel?
"Ẹtẹ lo ma gbẹhin ẹ las las", loosely translated means "watch this, you will unceremoniously be disgraced out of Nairaland sooner or later".
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Will God Sacrifice His Only Son When He Can Simply Do This?? by MuttleyLaff:
Blabbermouth:
I've watched the video again, this time, paying attention to every details.
I loved the part where he said "If there was a day when God created heaven and earth, where was he before that day?" (The believers cheered) Where He was is where He is, because He said - I am the LORD, I changeth not
That was 100000000000% correct! However let us quake deeper and ask ourselves, was there a day, a time or a moment when he created that dwelling place that was before heaven and earth?
If there was, that means there was another place he dwelled before creating that one we speak of. If we keeping going back and back, we will have an infinite regression of God's dwelling place (which is unscriptural and unreasonable).
If there wasn't, then that means that the dwelling place is ETERNAL! It was never created! Hahahahahahaha, what shall we then say, God created all things except the place which he dwelled? No!
Only one entity has been eternal before this dispensation, that is God!
If the dwelling place of God is eternal (never created or caused), then the dwelling place is God! Because only God is eternal from the past!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
In simple words, God's dwelling place is God! God is His own dwelling place!
This was the revelation I had from the spirit of truth and that made me realize God The Father is not a person! He is higher than what we can classify as a person!
Although I don't have the perfect word to describe God's state of existence, the closest word I could get was REALITY! God The Father Is A REALITY!

Thus when I then looked back at the doctrine of trinity that claims - God in 3 persons... I reflect and say - God in three persons? No, no, no, the First Entity/Being in the Trinity union is not even a Person!

Grace and Truth.
I am pleased you went over to carefully and vigilantly rewatched the video. I wish I can address your post in much details and better, but I cant because you caught me the middle of engaging another poster and just about going to the High Street to pick up some bottled water and bare essentials, but I'll quickly interject here that, you're committing the mistake of making the Trinity the be all end all, when it really isn't, lmso. This is your Achilles' heel. It's your stumbling block. You cant for this stumbling tree, see the forest, see the woods, as it were, lmso

I recall asking before maybe not you, that at which point did God become God, the Father. Also, at what point did God become, God, the Son, lmso.

You see the Yoruba captured the essence of having some appreciable semblance of understanding of who, what and how God is, when you ascribe or refer to God, as "Eledumare" or " Olodumare

Do you know why God on three occasions never revealed what His personal is and do you know the reason given for turning down the requests to know what His personal name is, hmm?. Mind Yahweh, I AM, that, I AM or even YHWH, known as the Tetragrammaton, are not God's personal name, I trust you know that, lmso, hmm?

"This is what the LORD says:
“Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool.
Could you build me a temple as good as that?
Could you build me such a resting place?
"
- Isaiah 66:1

I am sure there the idea of seven heavens being banded about, but bible speaking and bible fact cross checked with know with certainty, that there are at least three heavens, lmso. Have you grasped the implication and deep meaning of Isaiah 66:1a? (i.e. heaven is my throne). What and where is beyond the throne then, lmso, hmm? Orisirisi nkan lo nshẹlẹ ni heavens, lmso. Iwọ kan sha, mafọ. Malọ fọ bi awo, lmso. Ọmọ iya mi, mo wa pẹlu ẹ. Iwọ kan sha mafọ, lmso

I am sorry I have to scram and move on to equally important other things
Christianity Etc › Re: YISOLELE (ISRAEL) Behold Your Enemies [pics] by MuttleyLaff: 1:55pm On Sep 27, 2020
donnie:
Frustrated pagans. Why don't you tell the date of that post? You might as well pull up posts where I was defending Christian pastors. Mtcheew.

I had a pork and catfish business which I shut down for the truth. Shame on you.
I feel no shame nor frustration in keep saying that, if only more christians read their bibles there'd be less christians even lesser christian pastors. KMT. Mtcheew.

Truth is the daughter of time, dont worry, be ready to be singing a different and new tune, as soon as the next absolute truth hits you in the face grin grin grin

You're a false prophet, fake arse black-skinned African wannabe Israelite, still bent on perpetuating identity theft. Smh.

Shame on you. You jumped from Roman Catholicism to Constantine Penterascal Christianity and now today, you're rooted in this black supremacy, black superiority over white hate on display ideology. Hopping from one frying pan into another, and now jumped into the hot fire place of preaching that Yahusha Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ is a black man, and evangelising for converts to perceive, Yahusha Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ, as a black skinned black face person, clearly violating the Second Commandment stated in Exodus 20:4 (i.e. ''You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth'')

I wonder what with your Simon spirit, you'll take a fancy to, next, but based on your flaky antecedents and particularly with this your plagued Simon spirit, I safely can bet, that within five years, you slowly but surely, will change your tune to something else worse, lmso.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Prove That Christianity Is Not Paganism? by MuttleyLaff: 1:54pm On Sep 27, 2020
donnie:
Frustrated pagans. Why don't you tell the date of that post. You might as well pull up posts where I was defending Christian pastors. Mtcheew.

I had a pork and catfish business which I shut down for the truth. Shame on you.
I feel no shame nor frustration in keep saying that, if only more christians read their bibles there'd be less christians even lesser christian pastors. KMT. Mtcheew.

Truth is the daughter of time, dont worry, be ready to be singing a different and new tune, as soon as the next absolute truth hits you in the face grin grin grin

You're a false prophet, fake arse black-skinned African wannabe Israelite, still bent on perpetuating identity theft. Smh.

Shame on you. You jumped from Roman Catholicism to Constantine Penterascal Christianity and now today, you're rooted in this black supremacy, black superiority over white hate on display ideology. Hopping from one frying pan into another, and now jumped into the hot fire place of preaching that Yahusha Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ is a black man, and evangelising for converts to perceive, Yahusha Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ, as a black skinned black face person, clearly violating the Second Commandment stated in Exodus 20:4 (i.e. ''You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth'')

I wonder what with your Simon spirit, you'll take a fancy to, next, but based on your flaky antecedents and particularly with this your plagued Simon spirit, I safely can bet that, within the next five years time frame, you slowly but surely, will change your tune to something else worse, lmso.
Christianity Etc › Re: YISOLELE (ISRAEL) Behold Your Enemies [pics] by MuttleyLaff: 1:09pm On Sep 27, 2020
happney65:
This guy is an idiot..Ghana that gave a shoot at sight to Herdsmen bearing Arms..
Ohhh i need to start rearing Pigs now in the very centre of Oja Oba..No story..
donnie:
Way to go bro... I'm already there. Pork is a much healthier protein source than beef.
MuttleyLaff:
Hypocrite & duplicitous! angry angry angry
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Can Prove That Christianity Is Not Paganism? by MuttleyLaff: 1:08pm On Sep 27, 2020
happney65:
This guy is an idiot..Ghana that gave a shoot at sight to Herdsmen bearing Arms..
Ohhh i need to start rearing Pigs now in the very centre of Oja Oba..No story..
donnie:
Way to go bro... I'm already there. Pork is a much healthier protein source than beef.
MuttleyLaff:
Hypocrite & duplicitous! angry angry angry
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Difference Between Joy And Happiness? by MuttleyLaff: 9:14am On Sep 27, 2020
Omooba77:
What is difference between Joy and Happiness?
Joy of the Lord is My Strength!
"How happy are the people who can worship joyfully!
LORD, they walk in the light of your presence
"
- Psalm 89:15

Happiness is a function of Joy

CodeTemplar:
A drug addict can find happiness(temporary and shallow joy) in his misery. Same way a thief will find happiness in his loot though his spirit dies.
Joy is from the inner man and pure. Happiness is open to corruption. Happiness is just an illusion.
"Happy is the nation whose God is Yahweh
-- the people He has chosen to be His own possession!
"
- Psalm 33:12

"Happy are the people who are in such a situation.
Happy are the people whose God is Yahweh.
"
- Psalm 144:15

"Happy is he who has the God of Jacob for his help,
whose hope is in Yahweh, his God:
"
- Psalm 146:5

A good quote but climaxed with a sour end. Happiness is not ever just an illusion, but happiness is real and relative
Christianity Etc › Re: Should Christian Women Wear Trousers? by MuttleyLaff:
Emary:
You have said what I have been saying here earlier, God did not design clothing and therefore, it is human that put intentions behind what they are wearing. A woman wearing loose fitting trousers with a long top covering her hips and not displaying her curves is more decent than a woman who is wearing a tightly fitted dress. Also, a man wearing skin tight jeans and fitted shirts is just as indecent.
"But the LORD told him,
"Samuel, don't think Eliab is the one just because he's tall and handsome. He isn't the one I've chosen.
People judge others by what they look like, but I judge people by what is in their hearts."
(i.e. …for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart)
"
- 1 Samuel 16:7

Motive for wearing whatever is worn, however it is worn, is the key, it is the game changer. Jezebel was damned for slapping on all sorts, but Ruth was favoured (i.e. Ruth 3:1-18, lmso), Queen Esther too found favour with how she dressed and all (i.e. Esther 5:1-14 to Esther 9:32)

This life sha. Inside life. Orisirisi nkan lo nshẹlẹ, lmso. Iwọ kan sha, mafọ. Malọ fọ bi awo, lmso. Ọmọ iya mi, mo wa pẹlu ẹ. Iwọ kan sha mafọ, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: Should Christian Women Wear Trousers? by MuttleyLaff:
Image123:
Don't worry, they are coming for you for dismissing their words like that.
A clear and innocent conscience fears nothing. Come to think of it, I actually covertly was complementing their efforts and I am the other poster, if not the only poster, stamping likes on almost every other comment Emary and ggirl4real have made on this thread. I did so upandan the thread, because its my way of showing how I to an agreeable degree appreciate the worthiness of their submission, lmso.

Image123:
Bible quiz, hallelujah. Make i come show myself, lmso like my oga.

Proverbs
6:16These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto Him:
6:17A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
6:18An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
6:19A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren
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Word. Gbam.

If not that you are teetotal, I would have begged that somebody please pass to my guy, brother, blood, Image123 ọga, this chilled bottle of orijin. Plus send you a truckload of kolanuts as well and after that, consider you sharp sharp, for next governor of your state of origin.

Right on point on all accounts. Wehdone Sir! Shame I am denied the pleasure of saying "Please drink responsibly though" lmso.

Now when I was asking about the commonality and difference between Denrele and Bobrisky, if you had made reasonable effort, similar to how jmoore did, albeit I tried to steer him in the direction of right answering, to answer the questions, you would have by now, with your given Proverbs 6:16-19 excellent reply to God's six to seven pet peeves understand what the verse Deuteronomy 22:5 is all about.

The verse has nothing to do with women wearing men's clothing and vice versa per se. As I keep on harping, there is nothing evil, sinful, wrong bad et cetera in women wearing men's cloth ordinarily and vice versa, but when the game changer(s) is/are introduced in the matter to make a mix, then that's when God begins to find a problem with the situation, and have a major main gripe with it because the motive, the association and intent is wack, worrisome and an anathema to God, lmso.

Image123, MaxInDHouse formerly Maximus69 RIP in Nairaland heavens, is yanking your chain, as he wants to make everyone believe that you actually do know about Denrele and Bobrisky, lmso

Anyway Image123, when next you read and review Deuteronomy 22:5, think of Denrele and Bobrisky, that both are cross dressers. Think about that the former doesnt pretend to be what he isn't, but the latter pretends to be what he isn't, teasing the public with his blatant in-your-face perpetual gyrating like a female persona overt undisguised deception. Now let's go up a notch here Image123, lmso, just like every other thing that God finds disgusting, so is the Deuteronomy 22:5 women wearing men's cloth, not ordinarily and vice versa, but wearing it under deception and doing so in carrying out idolatry practices involving heathen rites and ritual involving wearing other sexes' clothing, pretending to be what they are not et cetera

Image123, in other to further understand what's going on in Deuteronomy 22:5, you kindly are advised by me that you need to go look up who Moses Maimonides, even if you dont know who Denrele and Bobrisky are, lmso. Moses Maimonides, fyi, is a preeminent medieval Sephardic Jewish philosopher and astronomer, became one of the most prolific and influential Torah (i.e. the law or first 5 books of the Bible) scripture scholars and physicians of the Middle Ages.

So it happens that Maimonides observes, in a book of the Zabians, called “Tomtom”, that it is commanded, that a man should wear a woman’s garment coloured when he stood before the star of Venus, and likewise that a woman should put on a coat of mail and warlike armour when she stood before the star of Mars. At this Maimonides takes it, to be one reason of this Deuteronomy 22:5 law (i.e. deception with idolatry ritual practice involved) though besides that others, like Maurus Servius Honoratus, Philochorus, Macrobius, fully known as Macrobius Ambrosius Theodosius, and also known as Theodosius suggest the deception with idolatry ritual practice involved, actually would involve and escalate to occasions for concupiscence as well.

Though not wanting to drag Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Timothy 1:10 and/or Revelation 21:8 into all this, another set of misunderstood couple of verses, lmso, Deuteronomy 22:5 has a similar theme with those verses with men dressed as women and women dressed as men, establishing themselves as sacred qadesh (i.e. male cult temple prostitutes/servants) and qedesha (i.e. female cult temple prostitutes/servants), now God didnt want the Israelites importing and mirroring the Canaanites' idolatry cross dressing prostitution practice to desecrate the worship and reverence of God with this distasteful ritual impurity idolatry practice

jmoore:
The difference is that Bobrisky behaves like a woman.

I don't know what else is common between both.
Thank you, that deception observed about Bobrisky, is the correct and perfect difference answer.

Bobrisky pretends to be a female, even wiggles like one, pretends he has boobs, pretends he has vj, puts on this range of elaborate false feminine persona deceptions, that I know a lot find sickening and off-putting, unlike Denrele's case, that most find amusing and tolerable

The cross dressing motives for both Denrele and Bobrisky are different. The former is for entertainment and making money from it without pretending to be what he isn't while the latter, too can be said to be entertainment too and making money from it but pretending to be what he isn't (i.e. deceiving unsuspecting and/or easily influenced public with his deception) God hates lies and/or deception, lmso.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fisayo Soyombo: What Does A Country Do With All These Investigations? by MuttleyLaff: 5:52am On Sep 27, 2020
This was the same journalist who against all odds, broke the news and insistently reported that Ajimobi RIP is late. He is one of the few investigative journalists who have attempted to break new grounds, taking investigative journalism as far it is concerned further than how the likes of Dele Giwa RIP, Chief Olusegun Osoba et cetera played the investigative journalism game.

For those who havent the data to spare for watching the above YouTube video clip, then the transcript is provided below. I trust interested parties have the strong liver to read thesis, a long epistle, a long essay as it will be to some or come across for some, especially those saddled with challenge of having a short attention span. The saving grace, is that once you start with the first paragraph, with less than ten sentences, you'll get hooked that you'll keep on reading, not wanting to stop until you see the end of reading every single bit of the "thesis, a long epistle, a long essay"


ENTER THE DAREDEVIL JOURNALIST
- June 14 2020 THE CABLE/THISDAY

Our paths crossed in 2014. I was about to set up TheCable online newspaper. The biggest challenge was getting a good editor to take charge. Having practised journalism for over two decades, I wanted to take the back seat and concentrate my energies on other businesses. But unable to get a suitable candidate, I began to panic. I virtually gave up. Then the application of ‘Fisayo Soyombo arrived. He performed excellently well in the written test — and even better at the interview. Surprisingly, he gave up a bigger salary to accept our offer. According to him, he wanted to be part of TheCable dream. Putting dream above money? In Nigeria? I told myself: "this guy will go far in life".

Although his newsroom experience was limited, his raw talent, youthful energy, enterprising skills and commitment helped birth and nurture TheCable, which he edited from 2014-2017. And he loves adventure — such as undercover reporting. He once disguised as a clearing agent in order to expose the decay in the customs service. This earned him the 2016 Wole Soyinka Investigative Journalist of the Year award. To write another story, he drove a “stolen” car (i.e. without documents) from Abuja to Lagos and back to Abuja, passing through 86 checkpoints. He bribed police officers at every point, so he was never properly checked. If the car was truly stolen, he would have got away with it!

His biggest risk so far has to be his prison adventure. Early 2019, when he was about to quit as editor of Sahara Reporters, he told me he had a story idea and asked if TheCable could foot the bill. “I want to do an undercover investigation from inside the prison,” he said gleefully, as if announcing that he wanted to travel to Dubai for sight-seeing. “Someone will report me to the police that I broke a deal, I will be arrested, detained, charged to court and then remanded in prison. I want to uncover the corruption in our prisons and justice system generally. I have researched how much it will cost me to stay in a more comfortable part of the prison, have access to phones and eat noodles.”

I was scared. He could be killed! I still asked him to send in a proposal. At the management meeting, we were divided, but we finally decided to go ahead after all the arguments and counterarguments. Good enough, ‘Fisayo had also got the International Centre for Investigative Journalism (ICIR) to foot part of the bill. With fear and anxiety tugging at my heart, I approved the release of funds for the assignment. My wife was particularly agitated. She kept asking me if it was worth the trouble. I told her she needed to feel ‘Fisayo’s enthusiasm. It was impossible to discourage him. He won’t take no for an answer. He even prepared for the adventure by doing dreadlocks — to look the part.


Ahead of his police custody at the Pedro station in July 2019, he called to say good bye. It felt like a journey of no return. “Safe trip,” I joked, and we both laughed it off. He adopted a pseudonym — Olajumoke Ojo. Everything started well. The police locked him up. He recorded the atrocities at the station with his hidden camera. In court, some prison officials approached him and said if he wished, the judge would remand him within the premises — for a fee. They didn’t know Ikoyi prison was his goal. He opted for prison. They told him he could get a cell for N30,000, N100,000 or N150,000, depending on his choice. The VIP cell, they told him, was N1.5million. It was all a matter of cash!

At Ikoyi prison, things began to take a dangerous turn. ‘Fisayo’s brother called to inform me that his cover had been blown! Call it the work of the devil: his hidden camera was discovered as he was being processed for incarceration. The warders seized it, watched the videos, handcuffed him behind the back, and began to torture him. They scraped his locks and beat him silly on every joint in his body. In our risk analysis, we never saw this coming. We were more worried about beating from fellow inmates. My wife overheard my phone conversation with ‘Fisayo’s brother and burst into tears. “I warned you! I hope they won’t kill him!” she said, amid sobs. I managed to calm her down.

To compound matters, ‘Fisayo’s journalist friend and co-conspirator went to visit him in prison as pre-planned. Not knowing that the burble had burst, she walked straight into trouble. She was arrested and handed over to the police. The lady who came with her ran away and called me. Actually, ‘Fisayo was not supposed to go to prison with the camera. The original plan was that his journalist friend would pretend she came on a visit and then slip the gadgets across to him. But on sensing at the court premises that the warders would allow you do anything for a fee, ‘Fisayo decided to keep his gadgets on him. That was how the devil got into the detail.

I was in the UK. I had to do something — and very quickly — to save ‘Fisayo from a certain trouble with the Nigerian state. He could now be officially imprisoned. There were no ministers in place, so I was blank on who to enlist for the rescue operation. I decided to reach out to a former minister. He started complaining that TheCable had a “sinister motive”. He said we could have applied officially to inspect the prisons. After all, NGOs often visit the prisons along with officials of the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC), he said. I knew I was dealing with an establishment person but I didn’t expect this attitude. In the end, he did not help. And ‘Fisayo was still being tortured.

After I had agonised for hours — amid frantic phone calls from ‘Fisayo’s brother — one name finally came to mind. Mallam Abba Kyari, the late chief of staff to the president. He was once a journalist and an editor. He once wore our shoes. He would understand what we were trying to do. I sent him a WhatsApp message, asking if I could call him over an urgent matter. Immediately he read my message, he called. I needed to be tactical in my approach. I didn’t know how he too would react to undercover reporting. The former minister just said it was sinister. I knew Kyari to be liberal and progressive, but he was a government official and he too might take offence at our audacity.

“Mallam,” I half-stammered, “we are trying to help President Buhari fight corruption in government agencies, so we decided to send an undercover reporter to Ikoyi prison. Unfortunately, his cover was blown and they have been torturing him. They also arrested the lady who came to visit him.” He sighed. I smelt frustration. Then he lamented: “This is what journalists do in advanced societies to expose the rot in the system and government will act to put things right. But you know how we are in Nigeria.” He promised to reach out to the relevant authorities. True to his promise, I got word that the torture had stopped. The lady was also released by the police.

But Kyari’s help was just the end of the beginning. With the police, prison and court now aware of ‘Fisayo’s mission, they decided to make life more miserable for him. The court frustrated efforts to grant him bail by erecting fresh barriers. I had to call a top Lagos state government official for help. The court budged, but gave his release warrant to prison officials instead of his lawyer. The prison also secretly released him to the police, who took him back to Pedro. Goodness me, he could have been killed on the way and his body dumped in the lagoon! Prison would claim he had been released; officially, police no longer had anything to do with him. We dodged a bullet there.

The saving grace was that his brother was monitoring proceedings closely. He had been waiting for ‘Fisayo to come out of prison. After waiting for hours without seeing any movement, he became restless. He inquired from the warders and they said ‘Fisayo had been released! To whom? They said he should stop asking them JAMB questions. He almost went amok. Something told him to go to Pedro. On getting there, he decided to test the waters by sending his cousin to find out if ‘Fisayo was with them. When the guy did not return, we concluded he too had been detained. They obviously wanted to lure the brother into the station and arrest him too. He, after all, was the “complainant”!

We were unsure what the police wanted: a pound of flesh or a bucket of blood? We sent Taiwo George, editor of TheCable, to Pedro for fact-finding. He found ‘Fisayo behind bars. ‘Fisayo desperately asked him to inform me. The police officers tried to stop Taiwo but he quickly called me, saying on top of his voice: “I’ve seen ‘Fisayo! He is at the Pedro police station!” And that was it! We immediately reached out to Mr Zubairu Mu’azu, Lagos police commissioner at the time, and ‘Fisayo was freed that night. He had spent five days in police cell and eight in prison custody to get a story! On his way home, he told me excitedly on the phone: “Oga, we have a good story.” Cheeky rascal!

In October 2019, TheCable published his three-part series on his prison experience — to wide acclaim. It won him nomination for the International Journalist of the Year award, organised by the One World Media (OWM). The other two finalists are from the UK: Alex Crawford of Sky News and John Sudworth of BBC News. On Thursday, June 18, the winner will be announced. In truth, ‘Fisayo is already winner — trophy or no trophy. As Proverbs 22:29 says, “Show me someone who does a good job, and I will show you someone who is better than most and worthy of the company of kings.” That is the story of the daredevil journalist named Olufisayo Babatunde Soyombo. Excellence
Christianity Etc › Re: Should Christian Women Wear Trousers? by MuttleyLaff: 1:27am On Sep 27, 2020
Image123:
Exercise some decorum my brother, it's a lady.
Have I done anything untoward or typed anything inappropriate to warrant this comment. Of course I know Emary and ggirl4real are ladies

Image123:
Don't worry, i shall do as you have said.
Wearing opposite sex clothes, ordinarily in itself is not wrong, evil, sinful or bad, but the motive, is a game changer. That motive is what God finds detestable, what God hates, what God doesnt like, lmso

I'll throw you another beam light to assist understanding the verse Deuteronomy 22:5 with, which is, list six or seven pet peeves of God, as banded together in a verse or two verses from the Bible. Meaning Esau or divorce, obviously are off limits, lmso
Christianity Etc › Re: Should Christian Women Wear Trousers? by MuttleyLaff: 1:11am On Sep 27, 2020
Image123:
In the words of Emary the great grin, we'll say "Let us all work out our own salvation. I wish you well." angry

Don't worry, i will.
Deuteronomy 22:5 has nothing at all to do with any "Let us all work out our own salvation ..."

When the Deuteronomy 22:5 verse, was uttered, it was not any reference about salvation Image123.

Don't ordinarily only will, but summon the spiritual/biblical will to look further than the superficial. Stop going for the Deuteronomy 22:5 low hanging fruit(s) lmso.
Christianity Etc › Re: Should Christian Women Wear Trousers? by MuttleyLaff: 12:18am On Sep 27, 2020
Image123:
Okay, let's hear you out Muttley. Explain the motive.
My Oga at the top, I push my chest inwards. No ooo, I humbly step back and aside, make una sabi am, una sef, with the few pointers and illumination I've already beamed out for una, to see Deuteronomy 22:5 further and clearly with, for what the verse really and actually means, lmso

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