₦airaland Forum

oyb:
all ye who use thugs should learn from this

much as i dislike saraki, thats what grassroots campaigning is about

that's what i've been trying to tell some folks o. . .it's not about how exposed, educated or incorruptible you are, it's all about how the people on the streets feel about you.

i cant fault the article, GEJ and his handlers have been going from one faux pas to the other. . .they should just calm down and make factual statements, i think there are too many people being touted as speaking for GEJ, imo the guy needs to rein in the praise singers before they do irreparable damage to his profile.

@oyb
you should head over to NVS and read the ribadu interviews. . .your guy no try at all, he gets an A for passion though. . .

_{P.S. you really need to come to my neck of the woods to hear gist about the guy sef. . .in fact a lot of your fav people have ties to this area sef}

It is an extraordinary development that today, the North, or its so-called leaders are the ones insisting that it is the turn of the region to produce the president. The question is, which North? North as a viable, coherent geo-political entity, or one where a few individuals usurp power and resources to the exclusion of the majority who wallow in poverty and illiteracy?

In 1955, the Western Region introduced free education. Today, the products of that policy and their offspring dominate education, the civil service, business, financial services, medicine, law and a host of other professions in Nigeria and beyond. Today, which of the region’s 19 states has a free education policy?

Today, a single state in the South has more school enrolments than an entire geo-political zone in the North. A primary school in Kaduna State (Rafin-Pa) has 300 pupils who share two classes. A chalk line on the floor serves as demarcation for the different classes. It has two teachers, including the headmaster.

There are more private universities in a state in the South than all federal, state and private universities in a Northern zone. There is only one state owned university of science and technology in the entire North. A single university in the South graduates more students than several in the North.

These examples from the education sector are symbolic of the problems with the North.

Fifty years ago, the region was battling to catch up with the rest of the country. Today, the gap is wider than ever. All economic indicators point to the North as the poorest region in Nigeria.

Healthcare is not any better. Most states in the South have more doctors than any zone in the North. Recently, a volunteer group organised a medical caravan to assist a small village with basic medical services, only to be confronted with many patients requiring surgery and other more serious medical attention from surrounding settlements. Government healthcare has never reached the majority of people, so they die from preventable, treatable diseases that should have been long eradicated.

Cholera, dysentery, meningitis, polio and other preventable diseases are prevalent in the region, which has stalled the elimination of polio from Africa. Bill Gates had to spend $750 million to fight diseases in our backyards. Our zoning champions would rather keep their dollars in Switzerland, Dubai, Hong Kong and South Africa.

Agriculture, the region’s great area of comparative advantage and mainstay of its economy remains subsistence and dependent on the vagaries of weather. This is in spite of the many dams and huge tracts of fertile land the region possesses. The Sahara desert is inching downwards every year. Entire settlements have been engulfed. Water sources are drying up rapidly; deforestation is exposing millions of people to the elements and making the region vulnerable to drought, flooding and other environmental catastrophes.

Similarly, overuse has reduced the fertility and productivity of many farmlands. Rapid population expansion further puts pressure on existing resources, while our armies of unemployed youth troop to towns and cities in search of non-existing opportunities. Our zoning crusaders would rather compete about who lives in a more expensive part of London, the French Riviera or Dubai.

Of course, many Northerners have worked and succeeded in many fields, but most of those fighting for zoning are people who have served in one public position or another and used their positions to divert public funds for personal use.

Corruption is central to the region’s poverty and maladministration. The stolen funds are used to buy homes in Europe, America and the Middle East.

This state of mind is not a prerogative of the Hausa/ Fulani/ Muslim elite. It cuts across all ethnic groups and religions in the North. The thought process is same: grab as much money as possible; open foreign bank accounts; buy estates in Europe and America, with a stopover in Dubai. And never forget to visit Mecca or Jerusalem every year to feign religiosity.

Zoning is an issue the elite use to preserve their interests. Regardless of who is in power, the majority of Northerners (regardless of ethnicity or religion) have nothing to show. Our leaders systematically narrow the economic and political space to the exclusion of the majority, while illiteracy, poverty, unemployment, insecurity and ethno-religious crises continue to tear the North apart.

On one hand, I wish the South presented a more inspired choice as candidate for president. On the other, when the likes of Babangida, Atiku and Gusau insist that the presidency is zoned to the North, you wonder, which North? Either way, I do not see the president Nigeria needs from this motley group.

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@moderators
could you please call @labiyemmy to order? i'm getting tired of his lame threads. . .it must be possible to make whatever point he's trying to make without constituting a nuisance.

militants

oh yeah. . .are you doing/going to do NYSC? if you are, things should improve then. . .cos you'll meet a few ppl during camp.

one more thing. . .about the moving into your own apartment thing. . .you'd better save that for when you can afford it in the long term so you dont have to move back in. Housing in abuja is beyond expensive.

kubwa is in the outskirts of town, and it doesn't exactly come to mind when you tell people that you live in abuja. . .i've been there about four times so i cant say much but it isn't as safe as the main town. . .(i think there are still bikes in kubwa sef)

back to sensible advice, can you tell your parents that you want to go to a different church from them? there's this church called COZA where practically all the young folks in abj go(i dont go there sha. . .) it'd be a nice place to meet ppl. You could go to the cinemas to hang out over the weekend too, (if your constitution is strong you can holler at 190, i gather he doesn't stay too far from kubwa)

Also the traffic getting into kubwa from town in the evenings is unreasonable, if you leave town by 5 you might not get home till around 9, so for you to avoid the unholy traffic you have to leave pretty late, i think that's one of the things your parents have in mind

I'm a bit of a homebody myself so i guess i cant help with the 'places to hang out' thingy, i'll ask around sha and paste it here as i find them. . .what do you like to do? that might help, you mentioned reading, you could join british council, they have a library there.(i'm trying to find out about the hot air balloon rides in abj, i'll share whatever info i find if this thread is still alive)

errr. . .i'm not sure how helpful i've been so i'll stop here. . .

disaster

pregnancy

shame

pride

berra late than never. . .

happy birthday miss, (even if half the time i never get what you're saying. . . )

kai. . .see as people leaped to conclusion, for the record, thisday is pro-jonathan. The anti-jonathan crowd need to admit they were wrong on this one. . .

Kobojunkie:
When we had only western networks like CNN and the BBC broadcasting these stories, most of you cried foul and claimed they only liked to focus on the BAD and never went out to find the really far and in-between good stories you wanted to show off your Nigeria. Now you have a reputable non-western network in the same region, showing you that what the BBC and CNN has been broadcasting is not far from the very reality in the area, and people still complain and now claim conspiracy?

At what point do we start looking inwards to figure that they might all just be showing us exactly what is happening right in our home?

repu-what? i laugh in indian

purpose

life

prodigal

thankfully tomorrow is wednesday sha. . .

ayusman started the post without knowing the details. . .people tackled him on the 300k and he was unable to answer, that's the thrust of the issue for me. . .if you're not sure dont make the accusation. imagine someone telling you she bought a basket of tomatoes for more than twice the original price, what would you think? either she's lying or she was cheated. you cant come to a car forum and talk to the ppl there as if they know nothing about cars.

banix said he called the people that bought the EODs from him(before coming to post on NL) and neither of them knew anything about the thread, doesn't that seem fishy?

ayusman has a right to complain if his friend was wronged, i dont disagree with that. . .it's how he went about it, you cant come online and make half-assed claims if you're not sure. . .why did he not defend his 300k claims? if he had complained and stated 80k the complaint would still have been valid, you dont try to ruin someone's reputation simply because you have a complaint.

of which i went back to his posts, he(ayusman) didn't address the 300k issue after the first post, and he certainly didn't address banix directly, the clearest picture we get of things is when carhopper posted his thoughts after speaking with ayusman.

wanton

irresponsible

[quote author=Busy_body link=topic=524026.msg6875929#msg6875929 date=1286228663]Here onwan goes again labelling the aggrieved party a liar, a blackmailer and a fraudstar and other uncalled for names, jeez, this dude is very bad for this autosection, and if we talk now dem go say na chief, as if we wey be princess fit cash am for World Bank or use it to procure credit from IMF

Why can't he connect the frigging dot, according to Ayusman, [size=18pt]this car frigging broke down from day two before any mechanic was called, and Banix was notified, so how could all the fault of this same car be placed on the mechanic that was not in the picture from the get go, jeebus[/size] one minute he is claiming people should stay away from Naija used cars, the next he is saying naija used cars are reliable, na wa oh [/quote]that's where you're wrong, the car was inspected by the buyers mechanic(which banix claims was the same one used by the referrer the first time). so the buyers mechanic certified the car as fit for purchase before the buyer parted with his money. hell, we're even told it was test driven. why aren't you mentioning the lie about the 300grand on repairs now? i dont fully understand/know the mago mago that is going on but ayusman isn't being square on this matter, how will you come and accuse someone online without fully understanding the facts?

banix came online and told us his side of the story and has ayusman addressed him directly? no. instead he's telling us that after they see on wednesday(more than 24hrs from now) he didn't mention anything about banix's claim of having spoken to the two people that bought EODs from him.

it's all well and good to make claims, but when you cant back them up, then you're opening yourself up for whatever comes to you. . .300grand is a lot of money in nigeria, you dont bandy amounts like that up and down the place without proof.

@busybody
buying car parts is somewhat different from buying things in a market.

when it comes to car parts, the price variation is rarely ever significant unless someone is trying to cheat you. . .there's an average price the component is sold at and the seller and mechanic will have a rough idea of the price. the OP is laid emphasis on the price, and ppl are calling him out on that since prices themselves are not an absolute.


i for one have spent a lot of time chilling with mechanics so i have an idea how crooked they can get. . .i strongly believe one of your most important relationships(after wifey, banker and barber) is your mechanic.

na wa o. . .all the people saying he saw the thread since fail to realise that the thread was started on the 2ND OCTOBER and banix said he contacted the people that bought EODs from him off NL to make inquiries first.

insecure

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=524575.msg6869496#msg6869496 date=1286146581]It's obvious that Nigerians find it hard to differentiate people individually. All these tribal references sha.

Same questions we asked when that retarded Muslim boy tried to blow up a plane; "WHY WOULD A NIGERIAN WANT TO BLOW UP A PLANE?".

Ehrrm, your tribe does not totally make you who you are, ppl often live as individuals in a realistic world. Who knows, maybe Igbo boy had his own interest in mind or maybe he was paid to do so. Who knows, a Yoruba boy musta been his boss.

I doubt the story is complete. . . . more drama to come for election '11.[/quote]na why e dey pain me say them dey postpone this election o, we for don get am over with in january. . .now there's more time for all the nuisances we call leaders in nigeria to constitute a nuisance to humanity.

stuck up

@oyb
so how would you rather GEJ handles the situation?

@ayusman
i dont hang around here much and as i've not yet reached the car-buying stage so i cant have a bias. . .i'll say my two cents

you have a right to be upset, but you're going about it the wrong way, first things first, you just listed the parts haphazardly without any prices or what type of parts, brand new or tokunbo. Someone listed the parts and prices(both brand new and tokunbo) and that should give you an idea of how the person could have arrived at the figure.

You didn't tell us whether your friend had his mechanic examine the car and certify it as being fit. You mention this is your friends first car and yet you fail to consider the possibility of the mechanic trying to build house on your friends head.

you've been less than coherent in your replies, with you asking people if they were just waking up or telling them to stop posting if they have nothing to say not for once have you responded to the issues in peoples post. You refute claims with reasons and facts not emotions.

You owe it to the people on NL to find out if what onwan said is true, cos if it is then it would seem that you've been trying to ruin a mans reputation(unwittingly or not)

[quote author=c_osemiha link=topic=524026.msg6863491#msg6863491 date=1286050410]2. he approaches a mechanic ( thats if the mech wasn't directed by Banix) who smells the naivity and decides that if this guy can spend 1.2 million, then he could as well buy brand new parts,
3. he then forwards a bill, compare and contrast please
     a. lower arms, N35,000 (new), N10,000 ( tokunbo)
      b. upper arms, N35,000( new), N12,000( tokunbo)
      c. tie-rod ends, complete set N35,000 (new), N12,000 (tokunbo)
      d. stabilizer linkages, complete set (10k new, 4k tokunbo)
      e. shaft, 40,000 ( new), 13,000 ( tokunbo)
      f. oil pump, why, the engine should have knocked even before you left the gate, but , 25,000 new, 9,000 tokunbo

this totals up to about the 200k  for new parts.[/quote]this post shows how your friend could have been taken for a ride by HIS OWN mechanic.

@onwan
did banix mention why he hasn't come here to defend himself?

xchrsx:
hello i'm chris pls i need advise on certain issues, i actually finished my B.sc in polymer Engineeriing,and as well have a certification in mcse,at this point i'm looking forward to changing careers to studying telecommunications engineering for masters degree,pls how possible is it to switch into telecommunications engineering,and most important is that a masters degree in telecommuniscations and masters in information technologhy which is more advisable.chris.

for what it's worth, i'd go with information technology. . .

you're an msce? you've written all the exams?

Beaf:
All former Heads of State were present apart from IBB. . .
Was Jonathan actually meant to be killed in a blast? Cos I read somewhere that several bombs were defused prior to the ceremony.

what you wont tell us is that none of the defused bombs were planted anywhere jonathan would have visited. . .abeg, let's keep things confined to the sphere of reality

seven

ehen o. . .

people have been complaining that GEJ didn't name ppl when he said it wasn't MEND but now that the govt has released names, people are turning around to complain. . .