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spyder880: Lol, I be better lecturer so I no dey enforce hand out salesThanks. Will be watching out for your response then. I want to see if i can conclude by before this weekend so that work can start so that i will not use the money for something else. |
@Vito. Got this quote from an Aluminium guy but yet to negotiate it. What do you think?. Can your Aluminium guy give a better one?. My project is somewhere in Edo North. Quotation for casement windows with net fabricated with cream powdered coated aluminium profile, glazed with 4mm thick reflective glass in vinyle gasket standard, 4 windows with Arc at the top and each panel partitioned into six units. (1) 1200mm * 1200mm (Windows with ARC) - 4numbers @ N26,000 each = N104,000.00 (2) 1200mm * 1200mm (Windows without ARC) - 14numbers @ N22,000 each = N308,000.00 (3) 600mm * 700mm - 6numbers @ N10,0000 each = N60,000.00 Total amount = N472,000.00 |
NL1960: @Spyder et al: apologies for encroaching on this thread. I got this quote for aluminium windows. Is the quote fair.Prof, why you come answer everybody come leave my own now?. I don buy handout from Class rep. now. |
@Spyder et al: apologies for encroaching on this thread. I got this quote for aluminium windows. Is the quote fair. Quotation for casement windows with net fabricated with cream powdered coated aluminium profile, glazed with 4mm thick reflective glass in vinyle gasket standard, 4 windows with Arc at the top and each panel partitioned into six units. (1) 1200mm * 1200mm (Windows with ARC) - 4numbers @ N26,000 each = N104,000.00 (2) 1200mm * 1200mm (Windows without ARC) - 14numbers @ N22,000 each = N308,000.00 (3) 600mm * 700mm - 6numbers @ N10,0000 each = N60,000.00 Total amount = N472,000.00 |
vitodorado: @NL1960 The 421k does not include the burglary proof but only for the powder coated aluminum windows and mosquito net. While my burglary windows cost 82k.@Vito. Thanks. Iam a little bit confused about what you mean by 'powder coated'. Can you shed more light on it. Iam about to take a decision this week on the various qoutes i have gotten in respect of aluminium windows. Iam yet to do the burglary though. If you do not mind, is it possible you send me some pics of your burglary from inside so that i can send it to my brother that is overseeing my project for him to know the way aluminium windows, burglary and mosquito netting are presently being combined so that he will not be deceived by anybody. My email is 'migiets@yahoo.com'. |
vitodorado: @ Ladybfashion. The powder coated windows with the blue reflective gloss glass cost me 421k and they are 23 windows in all.@Vito, great job you are doing here. Does this amount of 421k inclusive of sliding mosquito netting and burgary or is it just the windows alone or is it windows and window frames?. |
spyder880: This is the soak away section of the septic tank. You can see how we created vent spaces for liquid waste to seep into the ground from between the blocks. While the septic tank will be well plastered, the soak away pit will be left rough to absorb more liquid waste.You have been using the words 'soak away' and 'septic tank'. Please can you explain to a building novice like me the meaning of each and the difference between them. |
spyder880: For those that used green roofing sheets for their house, how do you like this green based painting?Iam one of those that used bush green roofing sheets and i have already decided to use light green or leaf green for the painting. I saw such a colour and i took a picture of it and took it home last december to show the painter that will eventually paint the house. He was surprised that iam going for it and said i should choose another colour but i refused. I told him that it has to be the light green or leaf green iam showing him and not another green. As for the windows, it will be creame coloured casement aluminum windows with reflective (tinted) green and also creamed colour for the POP or window hood. |
spyder880: My house, updatesYour house is coming out well. For the down part of a duplex, is it advisable for somebody to do POP or PVC or just paint the decking?. The down part of my duplex project has the main sitting room, dinning, kitchen, store and an ensuite room on it and iam wondering whether to do a POP or PVC on or just to paint the decking or do a POP or PVC on the main sitting room and dinning areas and then paint the others. I have already decided that it will be PVC ceilings for the upper part. Comments and suggestions are welcomed from other gurus. |
@spyder. Please what is the entire cost estimate for the window hood (called POP by some) you did for for all the windows in your six-bedroom duplex project?. I initially did not want to do any window hood but when i showed yours to Madam, she has started telling me to do it. Iam beginning to think that i will no longer show pics of your building to her. That was how i showed her bush green step tiles from your roofing of a 4-bedroom bungalow project and it became bush green step tiles all the way. Now, it is window hood all the way. So, please give me estimate quick quick before i chop watery soup with excess pepper. . |
spyder880: Some of my boys started digging the toilet soak-away tank behind my house, the dimensions are as follows@spyder880. What does it cost to build and complete a toilet soak-away of this dimension?. |
tpia@:Using Hours/minutes/seconds on a post is making it difficult to track and trace where somebody stopped in previous post. The old way of using date/time should be brought back. For instance, you now have 'Bleep hours yyy minutes zzz seconds' ago on a post. This is making it difficult. In the previous one with date/time, i can easily track and trace to the last post i read on a topic. Now, i have to start doing addition and subtraction of hours/minutes/seconds to know where i stopped previously. |
Seun: Dear Nairalanders,Thank you also for now driving me crazy with this your new 'Bleep hours yyy minutes ago' replacement of the date usage. This is madness. How do i know where i stopped and where to come back to?. In the previous, it was easier using the date to know this. If i read a post yesterday and i come back in two (2) days time, i simply use the date to track where i stopped and where to continue from. Now, all thanks to your changes, i now have to start converting the days to hours and minutes to know where i stopped initially. You can continue your changes as much as you want but bring back the date usage instead of this hours and minutes usage. |
We know change is the only constant thing in life but this is a bad change. Seun has behave like Microsoft. Microsoft always brings out a bad version to replace a good version. My beef with this new version is the use of time instead of the date that was used in the previous one. You now see things like Bleep hours yyy minutes ago. In the previous one, i used the date to know where i stopped the last time i viewed a topic. Now, Seun is expecting me to be adding and subracting hours and minutes to know where last i stopped and to know where to continue. This is madness. It is already driving me crazy.If Seun refused to burge, he should at least changed back to date instead of the time he is now using. |
henryskywalker2003:Do not mind those half-baked people whom becuase they could not pass JAMB and then went on to do an 8-month course in Aptech/NIIT where they were only taught java and php now think they are computing gurus. They think java is the heart of computing. The heart of computing is the C language. Java uses C constructs. The compiler of these languages were written in C. Unix is C. It is so unfortunate that these Aptech/NIIT guys are trying to deceive people to fall into the same deep pit they have found themselves. As far as iam concern, Aptech/NIIT are finishing schools and not foundation schools. In India, those that go to Aptech/NIIT are graduate in other fields. You will see graduates in English, finance, commmerce doing Aptech/NIIT because they want to be programmers and from there they can go on to do a master in information science. All these Aptech/NIIT guys making noise here are school certificate holders. Where will school certificate and 8-months Aptech/NIIT get you in the IT career world?. Have they ever seen an advertisement in a top rate company for School certificate plus Aptech/NIIT?. The base for such companies is a degree plus other certificates if any. Can a school certificate plus Aptech/NIIT holder go ahead to do a Masters (M.sc, MBA etc). Anybody that can code basic, fortran and cobol can code any language. Iam sure when Java fades and there is another language called 'Sumatra', these same people will come here and say they are computing gurus because they can code in 'Sumatra'. |
afam4eva:Hahahahaa. So ability to write 'hello world' in java is now a measure of a good programmer?. I do not know how to write 'hello world'. For your information, Java is a language. 'Hello World' can be written in any language. When you see it being displayed, you will not know if it is written in Java or not. People just think that ability to write a program in java that was taught in an Aptech/NIIT school has made the person a guru in computing. For your information, 8 months in an Aptech/NIIT school is too short to know computing. There was a time in this country that a Presidential Apsirant said that if voted as President, he will produce 10 times the present number of Engineers in two (2) years. Iam sure you are thinking like such a person. A doctor/lawyer/pilot etc can also be produced in 8 months. I know quite well that the computer science departments in our universities are in shambles but is it not only the computer science departments?. The entire educational sector is in shambles. my firm just recuited an Aptech/NIIT graduate. What was he doing before we recuited him?. He was lecturing and teaching from the same place he finished and he was using the same notes that he was taught with to teach. So you see, it is the same problem. Programing is not computing. |
greateros:Yea. Sometimes it is a gift and such gifted people are not many. |
all4naija:Iam not taking it too personal. I was just responding to a comment. I have come across a graduate of computer science that does not know what he/she did in school. I have interviewed somebody who after 3 months of graduation does not know what he did in his/her project. I have equally come across a computer science graduate that knows very much. I have equally seen Aptech/NIIT graduates that falls into the two categories. What iam trying to bring out is that computing is not about programming. I always tell people programming is an art while computing is a science. I once told somebody that iam not good in the use of excel sheet and he started laughing that how can a computer science graduate not be a guru in the use of excel but i told him that i know the logic behind its design and that they must have used pointers in the design. An Aptech/NIIT will not know what is pointers and its usages. Anybody that knows compiler construction which i consider the heart of computing can come up with his/her programming language. You think the writers of PHP, Java and other languages brought it from their mother's womb. I can decide to come with a language that uses '[' to group statements as opposed to Java that uses '{' or those that use '.'. If you use something that is not in my compiler code, i give you a syntax error straight away. That is why it is a language. You have to learn the language and anybody can learn a language and use it. I can learn yoruba and start speaking it. I can equally learn Igbo and speak. If i tell an old man 'good morning' using the wrong word, the old man will tell me 'syntax error' and tell me to go and learn the correct usage. The old is acting as a compiler. |
greateros:I have no regret. I have come in contact with several of those that did 8 months and those that did 4 years. I have interviewed both and both are working for me. When i want a cheap programmer to just code what has been designed, i call on the cheap 8 months guy and when some analysis and designing are to be done, i call on the 4 years expert guy who knows data structures, databases, compiler construction, SDLC (software development life cycle) etc and how to combine all these to get a good and stable system. Every language in computing has an underlying compiler. You think it is incantation that coverts the raw code to an interpreted code. All these tools (php, etc ) have already been designed and structured by the 4 years guy. Very soon, you will also tell me that a clarical staff who dispenses drugs in the clinic is now a Doctor. When you want to build your house in a place like lekki, go and get a cheap bricklayer to do it for you from foundation to finishing. No wonder houses are collapsing all over the place. It is people like you that will tell the bricklayer to just 'use leg to draw teh foundation and start digging' saying 'house na house'. |
Godman_n:Good points. All these Aptech and NIIT programmers think programming is the same thing as computing. Most of them do not know the foundation of computing because they are not taught in these Aptech and NIIT mushroom schools. Just tell them to solve a problem of analysing and designing and you will see them lost but do all the work and tell them to code, they will code. That is why they find it difficult rising above their programming level and if they are fortunate to leave programming to desiging, they design bad systems. Programming is not the same as Software development. I once told an Appech/NIIT staff to do a job but he was lost but when i gave it to a Computer science graduate to do, the guy just applied the principles of Queueing theory (Stacks and Queues) that he was taught in school to solve the problem. The fact that a bricklayer can lay blocks does not mean that he is now an Engineer. Did such a bricklayer know what is 'Strength of materials and its applications'?. Check tables created by these so-called Aptech/NIIT programmers who think they are gurus, you will be suprised that they do not know simple database principles or data structures principles not to talk of 'normalization'. |
cinzo:@Cinzo. Were the bathroom tiles laid before fitting your bathrooms?. If yes, any disadvantage in fitting the bathrooms before laying the tiles?. |
@Oluwa4Sure. Good colour combination. Please, what is the name of the colour in room3.jpg and room4.jpg. |
vitodorado:@Vito, well done for your project. You have done well. My belle just dey sweet for this your selfless act of giving us a preview of the quote you got because i have been cracking my head on how i will go about getting a good costing for my windows when i saw this your post. The guy that did my aluminum roof is based in Benin but he does not do windows but promised to get me his friend that does and because he did a very good job with my roofing at a good price, i said i will give him the windows so that he can sub-contract to his friend so that if the job is poor, i go take army arrest am instead of his friend (lol). Please, i hope you do not mind if i copy and save this your quote for my future reference. Since the time i saw Am Alone's window, i don fall in love with casement window. Btw, is there a difference in price if somebody decides on having the hinges inside (like in Am Alone) as opposed to having it outside?. |
jaytime:You are still missing the point. Somebody ask you to display sample pictures of your work and you reffered the person to a link. I went to the link and i saw only pictures of your POP sample work and i pointed that out to you because you claimed to be expert in POP and PVC. If you claim to be an expert in POP and PVC, then why are you displaying sample pictures of only your POP work?. When i further point this out, you pull down PVC and now you are saying a PVC work should be given to a carpenter. My conculsion is that you do not know how to do a PVC. That is why you are only dislaying POP. I assume further that if PVC is given to you to do, you will give it to a carpenter to do. Please, do not refer people to that link because it is misleading. It is only POP that is there. I have learnt enough lesson from this that somebody that is not bold enough to display the sample of his PVC work does not know how to do it. |
jaytime:You have not done justice to the question. I believe in seeing samples (pysically or otherwise). I was never a fan of POP even when PVC was not around. I went to visit a Rev. Father in his parish and i saw the PVC that was used in his apartment. It was lovely and well done. The colour and layout blended well with the sitting room that it was used for. I will prefer that PVC layout and setting to POP any day. |
jaytime:I cannot see any PVC samples in the link you provided. |
ricki:@ricki. He is not in the western part of the country. He is based in Edo north and he mostly works within certain areas of that Edo north. |
cinzo:Thanks. Please, if you not mind, is it possible you send me the guys email or phone contact?. My email is 'migiets@yahoo.com'. |
cinzo:Bros, no vex. I want to buy at Orile because i believe i can get a good bargain there. Since you bought your vitrofied tiles from there, it means you know a vitrified tile. I just want to know how to know a vitrified tile at Orile. Can i just go there and say i want to buy a vitrified tile and they will give me a vitrified tile?. |
cinzo:Considering the environment we lived in where so many fake products are being sold as the original or where 'what is not' is being sold as 'what it is', ow can i identify a vitrified tile at Orile?. I know that when somebody goes to the market and says 'i want vitrified tiles, do you have it', the likely response from the seller is that he/she has it. That is my fear. Would not mind paying a little extra for originality and durability. |
cinzo:Thanks. Never knew there are vitrified tiles at Orile. I bought some tiles there about 3 years ago. Are vitrified tiles made only from a particular country or are there Italian, Spanish or China vitrified tiles?. On a recent trip to India, i saw some fines and good tiles in the hotel that i stayed and when i asked, i was told that they are vitrified tiles. So i have had this impression that vitrified tiles are from India because what i hear in Nigeria is Italian and Spanish granite and marbel tiles and china tiles but never a strong mention of vitrified tiles. |
cinzo:@Cinzo. Nice house. Congrats. Please if you do not mind. How much did you get your tiles and PVC?. Iam about to move to the stage of tiling and PVC for my project. I want to use PVC in all the rooms. I have never liked POP. The guy that installed my roof said he is also into PVC installation. So i have not yet decided whether to buy or tell him to buy and install. My brother-in-law, who is a tiler has told me to buy Vetrified files when iam buying tiles. What do you think. |

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