₦airaland Forum

frankyychiji:
Your 500k votes was inconsequential. Stop the ass licking.

If you weren't already psychologically ruined like I pointed above, then maybe you would still have some wisdom and insight to figure out that this really doesn't have anything to do with politics.

A word of advice for you, 'get over 2015 elections! it's almost 3 years gone and we almost in 2019 already.

frankyychiji:
In every rumour lies an atom of truth. Don't underestimate the jihadhist in aso rock.

The only thing I wouldn't be underestimating any more is the extent of psychological damage that has been inflicted on the average Igbo youth by political and other good-for-nothing charlatans since 2015. It would require a generation of cleansing and deliverance to restore normalcy in the minds of the current multitude of paranoid conspiracy theorists.

Lol... see reasoning.

Didnt expect anything less from the squad (ffk, omokri)

According to Omokri and a bunch of his he-goats, Buhari and APc are certainly responsible for Chief Innocent having issues with GTB; also, Uncle Inno is definitely being pursued purely because of his tribe.

The way some nincompoops continue to give a political and tribal interpretation to everything in Nigeria today is just nauseating. Tufiakwa!

Jochabed:
Tribalism will not take us anywhere. Let him kindly tell his parents that love knows no bounds.

If the guys father, an Edo man can actually marry his mother, an Abia woman, then this is certainly not about tribe. There's something else they aren't comfortable with about the lady which they aren't saying; I doubt it really got anything to do with her state cos that doesnt add up.

dukie25:
This is why I always side with Igbo people because if discrimination is allowed against the Igbos, what of those of us from minority tribes?

For instance can EFCC rush to arrest Femi Otedola if there was a misunderstanding?
Which EFCC would dare go to Kano to arrest Dangote?
Is this really how to treat a pioneer like Innosun,the first indeginous car manufacturer in Africa?

Anyway if Innosun decides to move his business to neighbouring country, we would all have to travel to Cameroon to buy their cars.

Mr Man carry this you victim mentality and persecution complex and shove it up your ass. Cant an event just happen in Nigeria again without being painted as 'persecution because of tribe'? What sort of horrible self esteem issue is this that's being sold to even unborn Igbos?.... Is this the first time two businessmen are to have issues in Nigeria and the police/efcc is involved?... Is Chief Innocent the first person to be questioned by efcc?... What has tribe got to do with this?... In recent times, why must tribe have to be mentioned in everything in Nigeria once an Igbo name is involved?...

Chief Innocent is a multibillionaire and he doesnt need this unsolicited emotional and sentimental/tribal defence to sort himself out with GTB. This victimhood mentality has now become nauseating and ridiculous. It had better stop soon else the Igno nation continues to make a fool of itself.

A lot of sick minds litter Nigeria. A business conflict between two businesses, but with the speed of light, empty brains have turned it to tribal and even political matter.

YouthsPC0:
First of all a very happy Birthday to general Buhari and Best wishes .

President Buhari supporters need to explain these discrepancies

Q1
@M Buhari Obtained his controversial, questionable and still missing WASC in 1953! 

2017-1953= 64yrs ago‎

‎Marking his 75th Birthday
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75 - 64 = 11yrs‎
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Invariably,‎ Our dear president obtained his WASC at the age of 11 in 1953? How possible except if he started primary school in his mothers womb


Q2
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Further more‎, because 1957, the year that he joined the army is a constant that can NEVER changed, back or forward dated on any record  it means that our oga president joined the army at the age of 15.
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2017 - 1957 = 60yrs ago‎

Subtracting the year that he joined the army from his age today...
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75 - 60 = 15yrs‎

This means that Mohammadu Buhari was commissioned into the Nigerian Army as a full lieutenant with 2 pips (stars) ‎at the age of 15!! Hmmmmmmmmm Somebody is Mugabe's age mate of but lied under oath most likely!!!!

However, the answer to whether Buhari is a criminal, a liar or deceptive individual will be left for Nigerians but most importantly to his supporters.

May God Help us to help ourselves

God Bless Nigeria

The foundation of the write up above was laid on sheer ignorance. Google is very accessible for information but people just dont fancy info, ignorance is bliss.

When did 1961 become 1953?

Nigerian govt sef! Never changes...

OnucheAdams:
You are the one who needs to conduct further research; Countries use their reserves to fund critical infrastructure needs and boost spending in times of economic recession.

https://www.thebalance.com/foreign-exchange-reserves-3306258

It's only wise to do that when you already have something tangible resting in thr reserves. For an import dependent country, a buoyant forex reserve is like the very backbone of economic survival. The whole economic crisis Nigeria's been through in the last 3 years and the whole recession would never had happened if Nigeria had buoyant reserves.

bigpicture001:
..am genuinely sorry about those insults...now lemme explain..when a nation creates it's budget like Nigeria where all natural resources is owned by the Central govt.and where 98% of national income comes from sale of proceed from this resource ; [b]oil.govt tend to fix an estimated price which it hopes to seel it crude tru out that year.and if aggressive by the national assembly the price is called a benchmark..now when the financial year begins and govt finds the price of crude rise above the statutory agreed price of the oil price..they remove the revenue acrued by the stipulated at nd the excess of it is saved for the country in a foreign acct..that is what forms majority of this foreign reserve fund..[/b]this fund can be used to fund a deficit budget as approved by the senate or the executive. now wen the country is in dire need for money, either cause of huge fall in the price of oil: nigeria's mainstay in the economy or there is a sudden need to beef up security. like that threat us sherd by boko haram..nd when the budget can fund such projects..the executive initiate a plan to dip hand into this fund to defend the nation, just like buhari recently announced..renember Jonathan ruled 6years nd fought the worst wars against a very dangerous boko haram through out his tenure..hence the depletion of the fund.now let's talk about recession..when recession sets in in a an economy, it's because there exist a very damaging lack of confidence existed by the consumers on the availability of money supply..this lack of confidence breeds decreased spending habit nd hence drastically lowers the nation's aggregate demand,which in turn slows down production nd hence leads to layoff if workers..when buhari cane on board,he halted all govt fiscal spending for too long nd at the same time introduced massive tax policies to soak up all the funds in the system to govt,without flowing in new funds. there gradually exist is ted fear of very serious scarcity of money,hence the panic nd aggregate demand shrunk to it lowest nd hence called recession..you might want to say that govt revenue drop ed cuz of low oil price,so the hv nothing to spend on fiscal stabilisation. but hey,who stops govt from borrowing, or use some part of the reserve fund..never! instead the govt minister made a mistake of trying to internally self fund the country to attain growth..that was a mistake..that was y there were lots of suffering and suicide. the govt indirectly caused all dox death...

All these beautiful explanations and not a single mention of the biggest factor which fuelled the massive decline in production (i.e. forex scarcity)?

You talk about recession and how it led to suffering without a single reference to the principal factor which suffocated the nation's productivity and actually birthed the recession?...

You talk about recession causing suffering, but you made no mention of the forex scarcity which actually led to the hyperinflation (due to Nigeria's unhealthy overdependence on imports) which actually led to the sufferings of the masses?...

Sorry sir, halting of fiscal spending wasnt the main reason for the recession. Nigeria being an import dependent economy needed and still needs forex as its lifeblood. The scarcity of forex (due to a sudden massive decline in its inflow) impacted every single component of the economy. Local manufacturers couldnt produce anymore as they couldnt import raw materials or machinery, importers couldnt import because they couldnt get forex, foreign investors couldnt continue business because they couldnt repatriate their profits (so they lost confidence in the nation's economy) and the biggest industry in Nigeria (i.e. oil industry) also went into coma. The Millions of jobs were consequently lost and the economy was fell into inevitable coma.

Contrary to your assumptions, people did not stop spending because they lacked confidence, people stopped spending because they lacked the required legal tender to facilitate those transactions. With the forex reserves depleting fast, it was an inevitable necessity for the nation through the CBN to restrict disbursement of forex; that led to a massive crash in the Naira, which also consequently affected spending power.

Oh yes! the delays in setting up a govt anf approving massive spendings at a time when it should have been done urgently played its own role in worsening the situation, but it is utterly ridiculous and laughable to ascribe that as the principal cause of the recession in an import dependent already struggling economy which suddenly lost over 60% of its forex inflow and which had next to nothing in forex savings.

And by the way, regarding the bolded part of your comment above, that extra fund you talk of goes into the Extra Crude Account, not the foreign reserves. No government waits for a budget excess before it shores up its forex reserves.

bigpicture001:
...honestly,you talk like a very educated illiterate..oh sorry for the insult ; maybe economics is not your field..do you know how this foreign reserve are acrued,do you know the law guiding the release of the money to the economy?..do you know the core reasons recession surfaces at all?..i dont think you know this stuffs,hence your lengthy yet empty write up....

Oh yes I'm an illiterate. So kindly educate me on all you've just mentioned above please. Kindly explain how recessions happen and how Nigeria's lack of forex reserves was not a factor. I'm keen on learning your stellar economic theories.

juman:
@bolded.
Gradually, you are getting to where?

This is an insane government.
Totally confused government.
Look, obasanjo saved over thirty billion dollars, where is the money today?
Yet nothing is functioning in the country.

The useless old man president should know that the economy is dead, hunger is killing people.

The confused overaged president should rather build the highly needed infrastructure, the countries that have their infrastructure working well was built by their leaders.

Very typical of the black man, never thinks about tomorrow... "hunger oo! hunger oo! hunger oo!!, bring all the money let's eat today"... and then what happens tomorrow when the money dries up and a worse famine comes?

No insults intended, but you exhibit the exact same chronic myopia and painful ignorance which led the government of GEJ to squander valuable reserves in the name of "building highly needed infrastructure". At the end of the day, reserves were gone, national debts rose inexplicably and even with the largest search-lights, Nigerians couldnt still find the so called "highly needed infrastructure" which those moneys were spent on till date.

Fast-forward to 2014, oil price suddenly crashes and economy begins to tumble, it spirals out of control from 2015 when there was nothing left in the reserves to counter the oil price drop. Of course till date, a lot of people are still largely ignorant of the connection between having nothing substantial in reserves and the recession Nigeria got into.

Obasanjo saved over $60billion and that singular act was the reason Nigeria didnt fall into recession during the global economic crisis in 2008. If only that momentum of saving was maintained, Nigeria had no reason to have had anything less than $100billion in reserves following the miraculous oil boom between 2010 and 2014. But what did we get when the leaders followed your "spend all the money" ideology?... Recession!!. **Oh sorry I forgot, Buhari engineered the recession 100% with his dullness**

Reverse psychology woykd play out here. I see the man's ministry growing and even the collections increasing.

salvation101:
u are very correct sir. Those making the fuss about tithing are simply those who are looking for justification not to tithe. Its not really about d bible but about their greed. 90% of people members in the church aren't even faithful in tithing so i wonder wat d noice is about

You are very correct, the people bringing up the argument about "tithing not being a command" are truly those who either do not tithe at all, or who do not tithe regularly, or who tithe grudgingly. But then, this is common sense logic and it should be clear why these are the set of people complaining.

First and foremost, to correct your impression above, it has nothing to do with greed. Money is a scarce commodity and everyone has 1001 things they need money for. Refusing to give to Mr A, but using the funds to settle other personal needs does not make a man greedy; tagging it greed is quite a shallow interpretation.

Secondly, you would then ask why non-tithers shouldnt just shut-up and mind their business if they dont want to tithe. Once again, this is common sense logic; you cannot pass judgment on a man, attack his piousness and empty a drum of guilt on his head everyday and still expect him to keep calm. The reason the tithing debate is on is because the non-tithers and partial tithers are sick and tired of the constant judgement and feeling of guilt imposed on them by tithe preachers and other tithe payers who feel more holy and label others as 'greedy' (just like the pharisees of old); it's only commonsensical logic for those attacked constantly and tagged names like 'greedy' 'robbers' 'accursed' etc to feel defensive. This is moreso at a time when some persons have just recently taken the pain to dig deep into the scriptures and proven that the tithing which has been a basis to perpetually keep non-tithing believers in the bondage of guilt is in fact and indeed, not a scriptural command of God to new covenant believers.

Cc: spartan117

dieBYfire:
This is really commendable ! Every child in the North is made to BELEIVE that Nigeria belongs to them! The plant in the seed of hatred and Born to rule Mentality in this children. They are meant to BELEIVE that they control the Army and other security forces! That is why when a child finished primary school or Arabic sch in the north, he's been taken to an Alhaji to recommend them for Miltary recruitments!
The worst part is the North BELEIVE that Yoruba Muslims aren't real Muslims and so they dominate them in religious aspect with extreme Fanatism!
No matter how we look at it Nigeria is a forced relationship....
Election matters= Tribalism
Emoloyment = Tribalism
Education = Tribalism
Contracts= Tribalism
Military recruitment = Tribalism
Even Nairaland= Tribalism

Everybody has a seed of tribalism in them even the so called MODs.... They see post of hate speeches and the smile behind the computers and when the hate speech is been replied with a deadlier speech, they get emotional and angry and rush to BAN the fellow...
The ethnic hatred in this country is so real and far worse than the ethnic hatred that caused the Genocide in Rwanda in April 1994!

Let's watch and see where it leads to. We Dey watch

Did you mean condemnable?

rose54321:
I don't see anything wrong in the question though. It's asked about Africa and we know it can't be Buhari has be was a dictator then, MKO abiola (maybe) because he was a philanthropist, but he focused mostly on Nigeria.
So it leaves Jonathan.

The question would have been wrong if it's asked who was a better leader, but I don't see anything word in the wording.

What exactly was the act of kindness by GEJ to Africa?... I dont remember either GEJ or PMB or even MKO engaging im any particular act of kindness towards Africa.

The question is such a stupid attempt at impressing the examiner's the political opinion on little children. And one begins to wonder what the regulators from the ministry of education are doing.

Lol.. capital efulefus. I know several Urhobos who would even do better.

Luukasz:
What of the sperm I donated to my wife or is it the food I donated to my stomach or the shit I donated to my toilet

You are free to also post all that on your favebook page.

Nice one... Any mumu criticising should kindly show us their own charity.

Orpe7:
Why Imo people dey get bad luck when electing governors.
First it was Ohakim the Priest Flogger
Now rochas the erector

Rochas might be a clown, but in terms of projects, he's still miles ahead of most other (if not all) governors in the south east. The man just clowns himself too much and attracts way too much bad press.

Gggg102:
The dynamos in bicycles are fuel less generators.
They convert mechanical in form of cycling to electrical to power the light bulb

Like I said earlier, energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can only be converted from one form to another. By applying mechanical energy (from your legs) to pedal the bicycle and light up the bulbs, you are basically powering/fuelling up the system with your legs.

Cutefine02:
Gosh are u guys thinking at all?
I'm not in d engineering field but I study physics and I do my research, what is a generator. A generator is a mechanical device that generate electricity wither in ac or DC.
A motor is in fact a generator. Now conect a multi meter to d terminals of a motor and rotate d motor. Does the multimeter read d current?
Is ur hand fuel?
Do u see u don't have sense for saying nothing like fuel less generator. No one is saying energy can b created for nothing, but there are fuel less generators. Make una use una head. Python1

You just rushed to call me senseless and then exposed your ignorance in the process. I am a mechanical engineer so please dont try to argue pointless semantics bordering on the definition of the word 'fuel' or 'generator' with me. If you wanted me to be more clear with my statement, i.e to break it down in such a way that even a dummy would understand, you should have simply asked.

Once again I put it to you that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can only be converted from one form to another. From the example you gave above, by spinning the electric motor with your hands, you are simply converting mechanical energy (from your hands) to electrical energy. ANd in that situation, it can be loosely explained that the system is fuelled by your hands; I'm not here to go into the semantics of the word 'fuel'.

1StopRudeness:
People can never stop giving to the church, no matter what freeze says. There are people of faith that actually read their bible and pple have been giving to men of God since the beginning of time and they've seen the benefits especially when they give from their heart.

Not all this fake giving we do now that pple will be asking themselves how has the pastor help you back.


Jesus never worked but the bible records they had money bag judas iscariot was stealing from.(john12v4-6) You think jesus will do so much miracles and pple won't give him things freely. Despite he had the power he never used his powers irresponsibly all the time to turn five loves of bread and fish for himself and disciples to eat, many of his needs probably came from the people.

Even the general principle of giving in the world looking at it away from the church, do you give something and expect to get back from the orphanages, widows and beggars you gave to?

Freeze is the one labelling the source of money in churches as tithe cos he feels 10% of people's income all over Nigeria is actually amounting to some huge figures.

To give tithe is hard ooooo, very few pple are doing it diligently. Nigerians no dey smile oooo, what's the population of nigerians that are christians seff, have good jobs, and are diligent enough to pay tithe.
The issue is people give beyond tithe, they give vows, sow huge seed like the widows mite that not even a pastor preached to them and the return is crazy because they were led by God spirit to do it out of the love in their heart not becos they were looking for some return in the first place
What this pastors are getting rich on is God leading some pple to give beyond tithe. Look at the guy that single handedly built a billion naira structure for a church. Is that one tithe.?? That's what's making pastors rich, what if he ddnt build and he gave the church in cash...we will now sit somewhere and start calculating it's our 5000 naira tithe thats is feeding the church

You are right, people give far more than 10% and such people do so freely. But the only problem is some pastors asking people to give a mandatory 10% and then ascribing it as a command from God in order for the believer to be in God's good books, haba!.

The apostles who were the first preachers, and who introduced Christianity to non-Jews never asked the people to give any compulsory figure in order to be at peace with God. In 2Cor 9:7, the principle of giving preached to gentile believers was "to give whatever they chose in their hearts (not a specific percentage) freely and without compulsion." The bible recorded it that the people gave freely, some gave 100%, some 50% and so on; but the apostles never preached the Laws of Moses to new covanant believers asking them to bring any mandatory figure (i.e. 10%).

So where on earth are our present day preachers getting this idea from? Subjecting new covenant believers to the Laws of Moses in Malachi and frightening believers with the curses of the law (Mal 3:9) even though the bible in the Galations 3:13 already tells us Christ has redeedemed us fron those curses?

noalistic:
Pastors take their quoting from Malachi 3:8-12 on tithing. So if you don't believe it then you are insinuating God is lying because the bible is God's word

Malachi 3:8-12 refers to the Mosaic Laws given to the Jews, the curse talked about in verse 9 is the 'curse of the law', which is all part of the old covenant.

Fast forward to the new covenant, Galatians 3:13 highlights how Jesus Christ through his supreme sacrifice has saved us all from the curses of the Laws (of Moses). Except you are denying the death and resurrection of Christ (just as Jew still do till date) or except you are saying the Apostles who preached these things under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit were liars, I'm not sure I understand why or how the curses of the laws in Malachi are still being preached so seriously or used by pastors even in 2017 to frighten believers (Gentile believers at that).

No where was it ever documented in the bible that the Laws of Moses should be extended to Gentile believers, the apostles never preached the Laws of Moses when they extended the gospel to Gentiles; they never received tithes, and they never asked non-Jewish believers to pay tithes in accordance with the Laws (Malachi). Specifically, the template of giving preached by the apostles is contained in 2Cor 9:7, it talks about giving whatever you wish in your heart (not a mandatory percentage) freely, without compulsion.

It"s not enough to just read 1 verse of one chapter of one book and ascribe it as the total Word of God, do well to read the entire bible, there are 66 books. You can start by reading the entire chapter 3 of Galatians and then tell us who truly is calling God a liar.

WackyJ1:
Since Daddy Freeze started his FreeTheSheeple Movement and many people have joined him in claiming that tithe is not necessary, that it is just a tool of manipulation my modern day pastors to enrich themselves.

Does anyone here actually know anyone who has stopped giving their tithes? Anyone who actually used to take 10% of their earnings and give to God through the church that has stopped since the Large outcry against tithe on social media started?

I ask this because contrary to many people's opinions when looking at the affluence of pastors nationwide. A lot of people do not give their tithe! And I believe that it is this same people that are coming out to cry against giving tithe.
Is the movement really working when it is people that do not give tithe that claim to be part of it?
It takes a lot to take 10% of income and give to the house of God. I once made a sale of 70k+ and 10% of that is #7,000. That is a lot of money relatively. The bigger your income is, the bigger your tithe. It takes a lot of faith for someone to give their tithe especially since they know that it is a man just like themselves that is collecting it. No one is a fool unlike that Daddy freeze and the rest claim. People know just where their tithe is going physically. It is going to take a lot more than arguments to make them stop something that they believe in deeply enough to make them part with their hard earned cash, especially if they have personally seen the benefits of giving it.

So is the anti-tithe movement not a waste of time. When all the members are those who never used to give tithe in the first place? What use is a movement that seeks to enlighten but has not actually enlightened anyone enough to make them change their behavior?

Do you know anyone that has stopped giving their tithe since the FreetheSheeple movement began?

A lot of people pay tithes for different reasons, a majority do not do so out of a genuine love or faith, but rather out of the crippling fear of the curses they are told would be placed by God on those who do not tithe regularly.

So regarding your point, if there's a person who doesn't pay his tithe, or who doesnt pay regularly, or who sometimes chooses to use part of his tithe to bless the needy, before now such a person may have been constantly living under the fear and discomfort brought by the guilt of not paying tithes as instructed by Nigerian church leaders (i.e. you must bring it regularly to your church). But with some of the messages highlighted by Freeze, some people, many people have actually been liberated from that guilt.

noalistic:
I can only incur his wrath but him, God's for calling Him a liar

Calling God a liar?.. how? Like seriously, why is it so difficult to scripturally back your side of the argument?...

Why must your side of the argument always be about "what my pastor said" and not what the bible said?.... And now you automatically equate what the pastor said to be what God said.

Luvtosyno:
I'm tired of this nairalander....are you the one to decide my money on how to be spent....if I wish I can pay the man of God 90% and I take the 10%....in as much your money is not my money and my money is not you money....I think you should all keep shout and save your saliva...I think what will should shouting is how bag of rice will become #5000 and #5 = $1....intending of barking like a dog with your father daddy freezer abi u nah dey call......

The only reason there is a debate on the tithing issue today is because many who pay (and those who advice people to pay) keep condemning and judging those who don't pay as inadequate unfaithful Christians. Now a group of people who dont pay have challenged the status quo by asking pro-tithers to justify their judgemental stance with scriptures. So far, no convincing response from scriptures has been given; only further 'judgement' and insults.

noalistic:
You have to be very careful in order not to face the wrath of God. If you don't wanna tithe, then don't. It's a personal thing. You don't have to run your smelling mouth

Smh... between the person you quoted who labelled the followers as 'gullible' and yourself who just blasted him as a smelly mouth, abeg who could incur God's wrath faster?

nduprincekc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lFxMaCqLoM


i love this oooo


cc lalasticlala.

There's no such thing as a fuel-less generator; energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can only be converted from one form to another.

python1:
Niger Delta oil money.

What sort of yeye talk is this?... Only the south west and the north gains from niger delta oil.