₦airaland Forum

AfonjaConehead:
someone pls help me with my cologne..

I completely doubt that a cologne is what you need right now. You need something to calm your temper so you can be objective.

AfonjaConehead:
and that justifies their killings,abi?
Interesting how you spoke @length without saying a word about the manner with which they slaughter ppl and take selfies with dead bodies! And you dare begin ur post by saying "that shows how much you know".
O ga oo..

Op,nothing do u,if some ppl/region like,let them continue to play the ostrich,burying their heads in the sands in the midst of present danger thinking all is well. This is naija and we cant afford to continue to live in fools' paradise.
Just look at that one up there making mention of ipob! As if benue/plateau ppl suffering herdsmen menance are ipobs. Smh

When you hold much prejudice against a person, you lose your sense of reasoning whenever the person speaks or is spoken of.

What exactly was wrong with what Mynd44 said?... The question raised by the thread was "why we no longer hear of rampant herdsmen killings." He's the only one who gave a potential answer while everyone else on the thread seems to be blabbing. Now the sensible thing to do is to either agree or disagree with his answer. But you chose to attack him asking why he isn't condemning herdsmen killings and castigating him for 'supporting' the killings... Biko was that the question asked?... Are you alright?

Likei:
Using our oil to develope other states. Nigeria is a zoo. LET BIAFRA GO

These days, it seems like Igbos now use the 'our oil' phrase more than the core south-south people from whose lands and waters the oil is actually drilled out from. The biggest joke of the ipob ideology is the by-fire-by-force colonisation of SS land and oil.

Why cant the SS people be allowed the freedom to speak for themselves?

See frustrated Political losers all over this thread displaying foolishness. By fire by force, in their shallow minds they have divided Nigeria into Muslim vs Christian. One nincompoop even claims only Muslims are responsible for the rot in Nigeria.

Even if I personally would have preferred the Brits to have ruled us till date, I can't help but say HAPPY INDEPENDENCE to Nigeria. No matter how bad things may be today, it will eventually get well one day irrespective of the evil wishes of frustrated political losers and their emotional supporters.

God Bless Nigeria!

Anybody who thinks balkanising the territorial integrity of a sovereign nation is child's play is certainly delusional. Even developed and civilised nations have clamped down on secessionists for thousands of years.

I look at the Nigerian situation and I shake my head in pity at the naivety of the people who keep comparing the civility of an African jungle like Nigeria to great thousand year old civilisations like spain and the UK.

Worst of all is even when the primary driver for the current Nigerian secessionist agenda is some 2 year old sour politics.

NEHLIVE:
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Meanwhile, Munosings whom he signed the last time is still trying to locate his track

This is evil...

misano:
Watin bad? Soldier beat person na new thing.

No be new thing, but doesnt make it a good thing... Same way in which Nigeria being a useless country isn't a new thing.

This is sad... Most annoying thing is the fact that the soldier's face wasn't even captured, and even if it was captured, he would hardly be punished appropriately.

Quite baffling how a person could just open a whole thread to display foolishness.

It's really wonderful how the human mind operates, amazing how political opposition and hatred for a certain person or tribe can turned a multitude of even educated folks into idiots.

Reno is certainly a smart guy who keeps pleasuring himself with the dumbness of his followers.

nawtyme:
At least they are not killing unarmed people. They are getting ready incase there is a foreign threat to their national security. They will not flog any one able or disabled for wearing a military outfit or shoot civilians.
So I like that kind of python.

Two reasons why they arent killing unarmed people:
1. They are trained and civilised, unlike our armed forces in Nigeria.
2. The civilians there don't see them as automatic enemies, they arent also throwing stones, cutlasses, bottles and other dangerous missiled at the military men.

Drsheddy:
There is no such thing called HARD WORK in the kingdom of God. but there is such a thing called the GRACE OF GOD that enables the believers in Christ jesus to access the blessings of God and simply receive his overflowing goodness towards you and manifest the abundantly life we have been called to live.
Good morning..

Like the poster above said, the kingdom of God doesnt also promote laziness.

2 Thes 3:10 says, "No food for lazy man"

MTKbudapest:
Buhari is sweating right now.

The heat is on thanks to Mazi Kanu.

Restructure or disintegrate.

No sitting president would want to engage in any act that would limit his powers. That explains why even all the loudest chanters of restructuring and outright national disintegration today were all DUMB and happy when PDP was still in power; they all found their voices and their senses after they lost connection to the largese from Aso Rock.

Something you should note also is that any form of restructuring that would take place noe would probably commence AFTER Buhari has left power. So take note, this isn't about Buhari, it's avout Nigeria.

I always said it to all who cared to listen, contrary to the widespread half-baked analysis/conclusion that the NORTH is the reason Nigeria cannot be restructured, I have always been of the opinion that the foolishness of the southern zones in their inability to UNITE and call for restructuring with a SINGLE voice is the truest reason Nigeria has not been restructured since 1970.

A lot of people in their half-baked analysis claim the north has a large population in the NASS. But while that may be true, the biggest error in that analysis is the frequent habit of lumping the entire middle-beltan states as one entity with the north

A fact is that the middle belt-states are sick and tired of the domination of the Hausa-Fulani empire and would be willing to sing a different voice ONLY IF they can find reasonably formidable allies down south; I do not see how a Benue man is more more closely related to the Hausas than the south.

The day the southern big tribes put their silly political cat and mouse games aside and call for restructuring with a single voice, that is the day Nigerians would know the true position of the middle-belt, and that is when we shall truly know how powerful or powerless the core north is.

nku5:
1. Have you been to the north before? Have you seen the Federal roads there? Whether from Minna to Sokoto or Abuja to Kaduna you cannot find ANY federal road that has not been dualised and able to accomodate four lanes on either side. Or do you want to talk of the numerous dam projects and irrigation schemes in the north and south-west?

2. In addition to other industries the federal government set up Nigerian Machine Tools Ltd in Osogbo in 1980 (an obasanjo initiative), set up Ajaokuta Steel for the north. None in the SE...

"In the  first place, the Ajaokuta steel complex was originally proposed to be sited in Onitsha, Anambra state but due to ethnic sentiment and political motive, it was moved to Ajaokuta."

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/06/ajaokuta-steel-complex-killed-buried-ex-gm-opens/

That is what marginalisation looks like

Marginalisation is a word that useless south eastern leaders over the years have planted in the minds of south easterners to cover up their personal sleaze and ineptitude. Of course, the marginalisation excuse always works for south eastern political elite because psychologically, the average Igbo man expects some form of victimisation from the rest of Nigeria due to the war outcome.

For your first point about roads, due to the dry solid terrain of north, even a road built in the north in 1970 would still be solid in 2017. The amount of load/traffic on the roads is another matter. Compared to southern roads, how many vehicles ply those northern roads you talk about?... We all know Nigeria has a poor maintenance culture, so even the little funds that may have been released for road maintenace over the decades, what exactly happened to those funds?.... Something strongly tells me the leaders/political elite in each region of the country have some questions to answer regarding how the little funds released for road maintenance in their zones were spent. All in all, there's certainly an explanation why the roads down south are horrible compared to the north, and that explanation is certainly not that northern head of states allocated money only for fixing northern roads.

Talking about dam projects, biko how many dam projects are in the south west?... how many are even in the so called north?... how many are functional?.... were they built by FG or state governments?... And biko, from my basic understanding, irrigation dams are useful in areas of low rainfall... So when has dam now become something to struggle for equality with the arid north?

You also mentioned Ajaokuta steel as your evidence of marginalisation of the SE. Biko, where is the iron ore located?... Does it make economic sense to site a steel plant in Anambra when the raw material is in Kogi?.... What you advocate for, isnt that going to amount to marginalisation of the middle belt?.... By the way, has the so called Ajaokuta plant produced a single billet of steel since 1981 when it was buìlt?....

I cant even imagine what the narrative would have been assuming Ajaokuta plant was at Anambra and has never been able to produce any steel till date. Of course the same old paranoid expression of ethnic 'marginalisation of ndigbo' would have been sung all the way to heaven as the reason why the plant isnt producing.

If we must all float in the same paranoid victim mentality bubble, we can as well all claim that Ajaokuta was systematically sabotaged due to ethnic hatred against middle beltans. Meanwhile while the steel plant was located at Kogi, the FG Metallurgical Institute was located at Oba Anambra even though the steel is at Kogi... I guess that isnt ethnic marginalisation against Kogi people right?.... or again you pointed out a federal institutions in osogbo and one in Kogi and you use that as your example of marginalisation?... Is the Metallurgical Institute sited at Oba Anambra not owned by the FG?

buchilino:
WHY IGBOS ARE ANGRY WITH NIGERIA

My friends who are not from the Easvt of Nigeria where Igbos come from often ask me why there is so much anger in the East and among Igbos. Some wonder why, despite the famed Igbo” wealth’ and enterprise all over Nigeria, the people still complain that Nigeria is unfair to them. Some insinuate that the anger comes from the loss of the 2015 election by Jonathan who the Igbos heavily backed.

And why is it that the current generation of Igbos are so angry as to contemplate carrying arms against the country? With lots are following Nnamdi Kanu of IPOB with his secessionist message. Those not following may despise his antics and rhetoric but are sympathetic to his underlying message? And what is that message? That Igbos don’t feel wanted in Nigeria. That decades of official marginalization and discrimination should be stopped or they would be ready to take their chances in a new nation.

First, for those who think this is all about Jonathan and Buhari. It is not. Igbos were disappointed that Jonathan did not win. But those whose candidates lose elections lick their wounds. It is allowed. It happens when your candidate loses election. Why did the Igbos invest so much emotions in Jonathan, a non-Igbo Ijaw? It was more because of the fear of their experience in the past 50 years. Nigeria has placed an embargo on any Igbo man becoming Nigerian president. Jonathan was the next best thing. Other parts of Nigeria have supported their sons to the presidency. Some have bombed Nigeria into submission to get their son to Aso Rock. Igbos have little capacity to blackmail Nigeria to the presidency. They chose Jonathan as their “Igbo”. But that’s not to say that they are angry enough because he lost to contemplate going to war on his behalf. Jonathan was not really the model of a President you would go to war for. And his Ijaw people have accepted his loss. So?

Igbo anger has been building up in Nigeria since I was a kid in the 70s. As kids, we made choices in our school years based on the narrative of the Igbo place in Nigeria. We knew of the glass ceiling against Igbos before we were out of puberty. After the civil war, despite the “No winner, no vanquished” program, Nigeria placed glass ceilings and no-go areas for Igbos. The war reconstruction program was observed more in the breach. There was the “abandoned” property program that was introduced to drive a wedge between components of the former South-East Nigeria. While the country was too embarrassed to put the discrimination program down in an official gazette, it was there for anyone who cared to look. It was evident in the Igbo police officer who stayed in one position while less qualifies juniors progressed to become his bosses. It was evident when no Igbo qualified to become the Inspector General of Police, or leader any division in the armed forces. It was there when "sensitive" or "lucrative" positions were shared in Nigeria and Igbos were conspicuously absent. It was there when Igbos were only fit enough to be made Minister of Information until Obasanjo came to power. And even recently, it was there when Buhari appointed 47 people to man the critical roles in his government and no one from the South east was there. Any time there is a federal appointment in Nigeria, its usually the east that shouts. It was there from Buhari first term to his second term and anyone in-between.

The Igbo elite called it marginalization. Other Nigerians countered by saying no part of Nigeria was getting enough. Marginalization was universal. But they forgot something. The Igbo cry of marginalization was official policy. It was expected. It was programmed. And occasionally, key government officials let it slip that Igbos should not complain. After all, they fought a war with Nigeria. Talk about No Victor, No Vanquished. There was a Victor alright. And they were reminded of that at every turn. Every appointment. Every national project. Nigeria was only pretending. Igbos were licking their wounds and complaining and the rest of Nigeria was too busy to notice.

Go to the South-East today. Since the 70s and the oil boom. Nigeria has invested in commercial industries across the country. None has been sited in the South east. None. Refineries, Steel Plants, Cement Firms. Any Industry. The South East was systematically de-industrialized. Even when it was the best location for any industry, there was always a reason why it should not be sited there. What this means was that any Igbo man that wanted to work in a commercial federal establishment had to leave the east. Add this to the indigenization policy of the early 70s that pushed the Igbos out of private companies. It meant that international companies also avoided expansion into the south east. The Nigerian Breweries, the Dunlop and other such firms sited their plants outside the East and only set up distribution centers to sell in the region. This is one of the main reasons the exodus of Igbos from the zone accelerated after the war and continues to this day despite the hostility they face in certain parts of Nigeria. And why most became traders and commercial business men. Because access to organized work either in the government, government commercial institutions and even commercial institutions were limited.

The only industrial enterprise in the east are built by easterners; Nnewi, Aba, Onitsha. These are Igbo indigenous industrial cities.

This has been the practice since the end of the war.
In addition to this, the Federal Government has systematically made it difficult for Easterners to do commercial business even in the East. The Federal Roads in the East are some of the worst in Nigeria. The Eastern Sea ports have been made ineffective. It was a war to get the Enugu Airport upgraded to an International Airport. The former Finance Minister shed tears on the day the first International Flight landed in Enugu. Yes, Okonjo Iwealla cried! Recently, it was only the South East that was conspicuously missing in the New Railway Plan of the Federal Government. Nigeria has 6 regions. And one was missing in a national railway plan. Incidentally, Igbos who reside here are the most itinerant in the country and would benefit most from a national transport plan. Even our President changed the plan to include his village but a zone of the country was not included.

When you go to the east, despite the lack of federal presence, the presence of police all over the east tells a story. They mount road blocks and make it difficult to have commercial activity. Recently, Customs has joined. And lastly the army. It is an occupied territory. They extort money. They intimate. They recently have started killing.

Nigeria has made the east unlivable. Purposely. Carefully.

I am often in conversations where people accuse the east of being clannish. That while we are welcome in all parts of Nigeria, outsiders cannot come to the East. My question is: why would you come to the east? To do what? There is no business to do in the east. Nigeria has ensured that. Why would someone from the South West of Nigeria go to the East to invest? No one would prevent you. But it hardly makes commercial sense. Nigeria has ensured that. Those from the North are there in droves. Igbos love to celebrate with cows. And the cattlemen go there to sell their cattle. No one molests them. In my village and most villages in the East, they live unmolested. But those are the only people who can find commercial reason to be there!

So those who wonder why Igbos are angry, wonder no more. While most would not dare carry arms against Nigeria, don’t under estimate the level of disconnection and anger especially among the younger generation. Nigeria is made of nations that came together to form a country. No nation will like to be in perpetual servitude. That Nnamdi Kanu’s supporters starred down army tanks with sticks is a sign that the next generation will be ready to fight bare hands if necessary to stop Nigeria treating the Igbo nation as second-class citizens. There will be fiercer and angrier Kanus in our immediate future if Nigeria does not officially stop the “vanquished “program against the Igbos who fought the civil war. You cannot preach unity and indivisibility of the country on TV and all your actions point at discriminating against the components of the country. It is as dangerous as it is foolhardy. Let those who preach unity walk the talk and stop open discrimination of their countrymen. History has shown that you cannot decree peace. You cannot decree unity. You cannot force any group to belong to a country by force, it may work for a time. But never sustainable.
Nigeria has a lot to look forward to as a united country. It also has enough for the regions and nations that make up the country. Our diversity is a blessing. Our failure to reach our potential is caused mostly by the internal contradictions and the inability to build a fair country that can bring out the best out of her component regions. Those who shout most about loving Nigeria today are mostly those its current unfair structure favor. But Nigeria will continue being as strong as its weakest link. And the weak links are all there to see. The East is one of the weakest links. Until it stops being a weak link, Nigeria cannot truly make progress.

The truth about Nigeria is that Lagos and Abuja are the only places with federal presence in Nigeria. Everywhere else in Nigeria suffers the same lack of federal presence.

Anything which is lacking in the south east is also lacking even more in the North-East and the middle belt for instance. If we claim the south east was de-industrialised by Nigeria, can we you kindly point out any single place in Nigeria (besides Lagos and Abuja) that has any single form of functioning industries?...

As a matter of fact, using your example of the recent railway modernisation project, the Calabar to Lagos rail at least touches the south eastern city of Aba. Can we mention a single north eastern city which the proposed new rails pass through?

Today we have a highly bigoted president, but besides the area of appointments, how exactly has the SE been excluded?

hamzeiy:
abeg help me tell them. We from middle belt despite consisting of 7 states have not seen any tangible federal presence since the creation of this country. Yet we have not created enmity with everybody because of that. If everybody hates you then its time you start asking your self the hard question. It my be your fault

In addition to those 7 middle belt states, the North Eastern seems to be the most marginalised region in Nigeria. But apparently, the people from that region dont even have a voice.

The truth about Nigeria is that Lagos and Abuja are the only places with federal presence in Nigeria.

The only spectacular thing I can pick out of this thread is the dumbness of comparing the president of the United States to the president of Nigeria.

There's nothing scandalous about that picture...

Desyner:
ha ha ha . . . I sense the popular Ipob/Afonja against the north bias in your tone here. The logic is same to me whether north or south. Of all our potential, oil appeals most to govt of change, that's a daft move to me. Agric is there, Steel is there. Steel could have generated much more with the current price of oil but no the govt see oil as next best thing to oil.

Well, the fact is that oil is still very lucrative, irrespective of the fact that its value has dwindled... And just like I said before, the exploration of oil does not stop any serious govt from developing agriculture or solid minerals. So you should should really stop blaming the exploration of oil as the devil responsible for the slow growth in other sectors.

Desyner:
You almost made a valid argument. The missing piece being that the cost of crude oil exploration is high enough to impact other sectors like agric greatly. Why gamble on dwindling oil. It showed the govt was lost in terms of idea.

For every single kobo spent on petroleum exploration in Nigeria, there is obviously an opportunity cost. That is to say, even if it's just N100,000 spent, you could as well argue that that amount could purchase 12 bags of NPK fertiliser for distribution to farmers to boost agriculture. So please spare me that opportunity cost logic!

Oil exploration isn't cheap business, billions are spent every year on oil exploration to maintain and to potentially increase our production. As we speak, billions are still spent in exploration in the delta. You only clearly have a problem with this very exploration in the Chad basin purely because it is in the north - regional/ethnic/political sentiments.

Desyner:
Aren't we looking for oil in Borno? I insist.

Oil is still a proven source of income all over the world, while it is important to develop other sources of income, there is absolutely nothing wrong in also expanding the potential income we can get from oil. Diversification means opening new sources of income, it doesnt mean throwing away a proven source.

As we speak, there's also oil exploration going on simultaneously in different parts of the country (including the south) with new reservoirs bèing discovered from time to time; that is how Nigeria has been able to not only maintain its oil production, but also increase it over the years. You obviously have a problem with that only because it is in the north, quit your needless emotions and sentiments and educate yourself on how oil is found. The Chad basin has the characteristics of a reservoir where oil can be found; oil is already being produced from the other side of the Chad basin which falls in Chad.

vincent10:
How about China and Indian.

Stop thinking with ur kidney

You stop thinking with your rectum. The point I made is that Nigeria falls low on the list in Africa because of its population.

The rate of misinformation these days by useless bloggers would certainly be the cause of the next civil war.

freeze001:
The explanation for the bold part is that the north isn't as populated as claimed. You build schools for humans not for large, barren expanses of land yet, official lies ensure that d North is counted as more populous with more states, LGAs and more representation at all levels.

They aren't interested in education, whose fault? Yet they succeed in dragging the entire country backwards by constantly lowering standards just to entice them to school. They aren't even expected to compete meritoriously with their counterparts that's why a Yobe child only needs to score 4 to get to secondary school while Anambra must score 139. Shouldn't there be government policies making it a criminal offences for children of school age not to be in school for instance? Their parents would then be forced to take it seriously too!

Well, all this isnt the point, the point I tried to make was in response to the statement of the dude I quoted. The same way the govt isn't building schools in SE communities, that's exactly the same way the same govt isn't building schools in the northern communities.

Desyner:
Oga I disagree with you here.
A govt of 2 years can do ten times better than what Buhari-APC has done. Take the rice-revolution for example, how much does the govt pump into agriculture in total? It could have been multiple of that and it would av impacted our

The govt buhari/apc could certainly do much more, but insinuating that Nigeria could possibly be lifted from poor to rich status in 2 years is laughable. More so in 2 years of an oil price slump for a country that relies on oil sales for over 90% of its forex income.

ONYEUTALI:
I don't care what I type. As long as it doesn't go well with Buhari and his supporters. Achọghịm ịma.

Life does not start and end with Buhari's administration; Buhari would most likely not be president beyond 2019. SO you ought to watch your statements, else they return to bite you later.

muller101:
Nigeria is not a poor country pls. This country is EXTREMELY rich. It is our leaders that are poor in reasoning.

Point of correction, the Nigeria has POTENTIALS to be EXTREMELY rich, but the leaders have been unable to convert the potentials to real wealth.

muller101:
he should go and ask xi jinping with a population of 1,389,512,582 how it is done. Stop defending a liability.

Of course Nigeria is a poor country, even a child knows that. But when a person thinks a government which entered power 2 years ago is responsible for Nigeria's low per capita, then such a person needs to go back to primary school.

ONYEUTALI:
Thanks for admitting the truth.
The north is not marginalised. If the Federal government starts allocating Boko Haram to each state and your own state was left out, you won't complain of being marginalised. We complain about marginalisation when the amenity in discussion is desired and needed by the Community/State.
And you admitted the north don't have schools because the don't *value* education. In another word, they don't need education.
I don't expect them to complain if the Government refuse to build schools for them.
So no marginalisation here.

What sort of repulsive reasoning is this?... You come in public and dare to say a people don't deserve quality schools or an education (because they don't value it); you give this as a justification as to why you think they aren't also marginalised by the same government which you claim marginalises you. But you expect the rest of the world to give a damn about your own cries of marginalisation?... Once again, what sort of repulsive mentality is that?

Onyeutali, ha kwesiri iji utali ahu pia gbu gi

Truth is that every region and area in Nigeria is marginalised, except maybe Abuja and Lagos. Only people who aren't marginalised are the political elite.

ONYEUTALI:
You didn't make sense here. Those things my village people did for their benefit, aren't they the responsibilities of the Federal government? The village did it because the Federal government neglected them, marginalisation.
Your village didn't do such because the Federal government did them for you. So take a chill.

From the bolded statement, you make it sound like there are actually numerous schools in the northern villages; you make it sound as if the govt actually builds schools there. This is the same zone where you could travel an area the size of the entire Imo state without seeing a single school.

The fact is that, unlike in the south where community effort is used to build schools when govt fails, in the north, the govt doesnt build and the communities dont build schools for themselves too (cos they dont even value education as much as we do down south).

Like I said above, save for Abuja and Lagos, there's no area in Nigeria which isnt marginalised. Forget the songs you've been hearing for ages.