₦airaland Forum

xcolanto:
I am not going to go too deep into this because if you cannot see a thing I cannot force you to see it. Marginalisation is a thing of feelings to some extent and if I feel that way you cannot see it but I can explain to you how I feel and why I feel that way. To you it might be of no consequence but to me it means a lot. What am I trying to say? You claim the lopsided appointments would be of no help to the SE but that's your point of view not that of the SE. It might be of no consequence but there is something called a sense of belonging which is needed in nation building. This the SE has been schemed out off on all fronts, be it projects, FG presence, appointments etc. This is not a good feeling and can stire up feelings of resentment, abandonment and neglect. This in all sense can therefore pass as marginalisation but not to you. The government has not scored well in this regard and it's unhealthy and outright wrong.

As for the manufacturing sector dominated by the SE, it's would have been wise If the APC lead government had provided incentives and palatives to quoshion the negative effects such a policy would have on a people who's livelihood and regional development depends on such a crucial sector that sustains the non oil revenue of Nigeria to a large extent. It wasn't up until some months ago was forex made available to that sector of which many still find it hard to access. In this regard many manufacturers have moved out of Nigeria to do business in boardering countries. Do have in mind that the government has not provided the needed environment for such companies to thrives in the first place, such as electricity, good roads, security etc.
However in sector as BDC dominated by the Hausa the government was quick to intervene, enriching their kinsmen to billions of dollars, a fact sanusi attested to. Also the petroleum sector dominated by the north was also earlier supported while other sectors where left to rot.

As I said its a feeling that cannot be ignored and am sure millions of people would agree with me on this one.

I agreed with you that there was some form of marginalisation, although it's being blown out of proportion (especially since the current regime due to Buhari's unguarded utterances). But in the whole, the only place this marginalisation can be really substantiated is in terms of appointments. For every other thing, I can prove it to you that the entire Nigeria is suffering exactly the same marginalisation except for Lagos and Abuja (which are FCTs).

You talk about palliatives to save the manufacturing sector, the first point I wanted to address was that the entire forex policy and its consequence on the manufacturing (and every other sector) was NOT an intentional move to stifle anybody, stop forcefully making it look as if it is. You pointed out that it was only until months ago that forex was made available. Are you not aware that the country was (and is still) in an economic crisis occasioned by forex scarcity which in turn is a result of the oil crisis?... Forex was made available recently because there was a marginal increase in forex supply; oil prices are now stable at about $50 and the forex reserves in the CBN has now been built up to over $30 billion, hence the CBN is in a more comfortable position to disburse forex. It is always good when people educate themselves on how things work, else they just fall victims of the manipulations of selfish dubious leaders who brainwash them to believe nonsense.

Oh yes, the country is still in an economic crisis and the question still remains whether to devalue the Naira massively (with scary consequences) just as economists like Sanusi are advising, or to maintain the status quo where the CBN is trying to systematically close the gap between blackmarket and official rates slowly without risking uncontrollable devaluation. Whilst this debate on the best way out is still on, it's absolutely appalling that some minds already interpret the current position of things as a deliberate plan to favour Hausa BDCs. I'm sure if the govt decides to devalue and Naira drops to N800/$1, you will still complain that the govt is useless and wicked and trying to strangle businesses of Igbos who are into manufacturing and importation. My brother, these line of thoughts are reminiscent of a person struggling with PPD (paranoid personality disorder), no matter the line of action, he reads meaning into it and interprets it as someone deliberately trying to hurt him.

To summarise my point, every single thing you've mentioned are the effects of bad leadership over the years of which the consequences are suffered by ALL across Nigeria.

NA wa oo... Anyway, waiting for the other side of the story.

xcolanto:
@bloded I don't know the side of the divde you fall but by "our" you may be implying am Igbo. I am not, I only feel for their plight in the hands of the Nigerian lead Fulani government. You may not know it but there are strategies and policies to keep these people subjected due to their boldness to fight a war. When this administration came on board the manufacturing sector was strangulated by imposing restrictions to the needed imported materials by the FG, this is a section mostly dominated by the Igbos. Do you know how many companies closed up due to that hasty implementation of such policy? Up in the north these folks have been mainly targeted by the Muslim fanatics for maiming and destruction of their livelihood not once or twice over flimsy reasons as the drawing of Muhammed and the loss of election by a northerner.
You say they refuse to align with APC but the Yoruba's who have, how has the appointment of the APC lead government favour them? Just recently tinbu an APC chieftain was crying out for restructuring. Yesterday a minister said the Igbo's should expect nothing because they didn't "invest" in buhari! What was the investments of the ijaws or the ikwerre man, yet they single out the Igbo's for persecution and trash talking to agitate them further. I have many more to say but then I would be saying too much. It's those that wear the shoes that know where it Hurts, so you might never get it. Peace!

I always like to view issues from the other perspective, hence I totally do not agree most times with general beliefs no matter how long it has been peddled. The Hausas hate Igbos so much and would kill even their own brother who as little as smiles at an Igbo man; that is not in doubt. But while there is a sort of Igbo marginalisation in existence, what we see today is majorly a thing of the mind and this paranoia is exactly what has kept the Igbo nation down for ages.

Firstly you claim policies were made against importation to strangle Igbo businesses, this is a very perfect example of the paranoid mentality which keeps ruining the minds of Igbos. Take a look the chart of Nigeria's foreign reserves below:
https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/embed.png?s=nigeriaforexcres&v=201705041727u&d1=20140726&d2=20160826&type=type=column&h=300&w=600
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/nigeria/foreign-exchange-reserves

From the chart above, you can see how rapidly Nigeria's reserves dropped when oil prices began dropping from mid-2014. Do you know what happens to an import dependent country when it runs out of reserves?... If you go study the Venezuelan situation, you will definitely not swallow the story that forex restrictions were done to punish anyone; only a paranoid person would study the Venezuelan situation and still return to say forex restrictions was a strategy to target him.

I personally do not believe in the marginalisation theory which has been peddled since I was born; as a matter of fact, every single thing which the SE lacks today and which is termed as marginalisation, every other zone in the country lacks them also; the only exceptions being Lagos (former FCT) and Abuja (current FCT). For the current administration, the only area I see a clear marginalisation is in terms of appointments, something which to me is totally useless when we consider how the numerous appointments did not help the SE zone in the last regime.

If you disagree with me, kindly point out the areas of marginalisation you know and I will explain my point.

xcolanto:
Reno is spot on! Why can't an Igbo man rule this God forsaken country? How can we claim to be one people yet they oppress the Igbo's for fighting for their rights to govern and control their resources.
This nation is doomed and can never work.
Without equal rights and justice no country can prosper.

The Igbo nation is as big as the Yoruba and the Hausa nations. Firstly, it is a shame, and an embarrassment for the Igbo nation to keep crying for several decades that it is being marginalised by its 'classmates'.

Power is not given, it is taken, and nobody struggles for power, takes it and gives it on a platter of gold to another. The only way the Igbo nation can attain political progress in Nigeria is by playing the game being played by its MATES; i.e. playing superior politics. But it seems each time, the Igbo nation plays a wrong card which backfires, and then the shameful cry of 'they are bullying us' continues.

A classic example was the last election when the entire Igbo establishment suckled to PDP and PDP lost. FEw Igbo men who joined APC kept begging for support screaming at the top of their voices that 'assuming PDP loses, the Igbo nation would lose a lot of political relevance', but those few Igbo men were discarded as 'ndi fulefu a.k.a efulefus.' But at the end, their exact fears came to pass. If just 25% of the Igbo political establishment aligned with the APC prior to 2015, the Igbos would have held some political clout in APC and in Abuja today. But it was a result of our bare faced political miscalculation.

Masterclass32:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10212561866298933&id=1152008079

Useless politicians!... Always fanning the embers of discord for their selfish political reasons.

Now PDP had been in power for 16 years and Reno can his boss sat in power for 5 good years when Nigeria made more revenue than every other Nigerian regime combined.

Now can Reno kindly point out what he and his boss did for the SE zone besides appointing plenty thieves to just go fill up their private pockets and oppress others?... After all the noise made about resuscitating the Enugu airport, did they not embezzle the billions meant to fix the runway?... Today the runway is still riddled with potholes and international airlines have refused to land there but APC is to be blamed according to the mocker.

I wouldn't even want to go into details of the PH international airport which is barely 30 mins from Aba (PH airport is closer to Aba than abuja airport is to abuja), the only international airport in the SS zone where Reno and his boss hail from. By the way, Aba does not need an airport as prove for anything, if the short road linking Aba and PH can be fixed, and if the PH airport can be fixed, ABA DOES NOT NEED AN AIRPORT. But can someone remind us of the state of PH airport even when Reno and his boss ruled for 5 years with all the revenue in this world?

Now regarding airports in general, the FG hasnt being in the business of building new airports in a long time. An international airport was built in every zone in the country, all other airports built are by state governments, if the state governments of Anambra and Abia have refused to build airports, how can this be used as an example of marginalisation?... so who then is marginalising who exactly?... Why cant we just exercise our brains by sticking to only the meaningful arguments?... I'm sure some slow brains would soon come attacking 'Obailala's Igboness' because of this comment.

raker300:
Apc and Amaechi are a shame..

Instead of contrstucting the rail lines to include these manufacturing hubs, they rather play politics of hate

In defence of Amaechi regarding rails, leadership is a continuum and current railway masterplan wasn't drawn by him, Amaechi only inherited a railway modernisation plan from his predecessors and the last I checked, it was Reno's people who decided on the current railway map. Now the fraudsters are conveniently playing on the gullibility (or should I just say intellectual blindness) of the people by playing the ethnic card to pass the blame to the 2 year old APC govt still struggling to come out of recession. Meanwhile the last time I checked, the rail modernisation plan passes through Aba (I'm not sure why you chose to ignore this known fact).

Izonpikin:
i want you to mention them so that your BP can come down.

greet buhari for me..

You mean so that YOUR BP can come down?

Izonpikin:
point out that of buhari and run along...if you can't then just keep your mouth shut...

List out buharis failures that just might help you grasp where we are now in nigeria...

The last time I checked, you have a brain, you have a mouth, you have a hand, you are literate and you have internet connection. Kindly remind me what stops YOU from mentioning those buhari failures you refer to yourself?

Izonpikin:
oh yes because gej is from the Niger delta he should focus on oil...if we had true federalism won't buhari focus on groundnut and other non oil resources

So who are the owners of these private jets Gej and pdp?? Your chidishness knows no bounds...your attempt at heaping every single ineptitude of the apc on gej won't fly...wake up

Yapping like gej ruled naija from 1960 till this moment...even lie Mohammed is tired of the gej excuse...

I did not heap the rot of the past on GEJ, I only pointed out his own indiscretions and failures. If that's too much for you to comprehend, then it's not my problem.

pokipoki:
You can do better by providing us with the annual report spanning for the last 4 years so that we have idea of the power generation rather than providing us with "selected days" operational report. That makes more sense.

Someone claimed Nigeria was generating 4000mw when pdp handed over to apc, I was only responding to the person hence I simply extracted the specific bit (i.e. the last week of pdp) needed to deflate his lie. Meanwhile I provided a website link, if you need further information (outside the focus of our discussion), you can simply visit the site at your spare time.

Lol.. Ngige go hear am today... Pouring insult on top deep injury

magoo10:
Tinubu le leyi
fashola le leyi
obailala le leyi

magoo10:
election loss trauma my foot
you people and lai Mohammed that have been blaming Jonathan ,which trauma are you suffering from.
Election Win trauma?

Go back and answer my freaking questions or you can run-off and wallow.

magoo10:
lols funny man,am happy some of you are beginning to be educated because most of you have been blinded by your hatred for Jonathan that you say he didn't work anything.
please go to bed now it is early

You've not still answered any of my questions. Stop beating about the bush, provide the evidence that Nigeria was generating 4000mw before handover to the new govt.

And then again, I don't hate GEJ, I have absolutely no issues with Jonathan. I only hate seeing when his supporters like yourself, out of 'election-loss-trauma' driven hatred for Buhari/APC, begin to conjure some phantom achievements for PDP/GEJ and sometime I just can't help but wonder whether you feel everyone else was blind when GEJ was ruling Nigeria. Incidentally, that is all I do here on Nairaland, deflate the nonsense lies which you people keep telling yourselves and the unsuspecting uninformed public about how GEJ made Nigeria El Dorado before APC/Buhari came in and crumbled everything.

SO once again I beg of you, show me the evidence you claim to have of where Nigeria was generating 4000mw before APshit came in and spoilt the perfect power system overnight.

magoo10:
lols ,do you also want me to provide info on when it was 4000 mega watts? what is this one even saying. it kept on increasung
please i beg you go and sleep

If you claim power generation capacity was 4000mw, I dont give a damn about the 'capacity', what I care about is the actual generation figure. If we want to start talking about 'capacity', then APC can as-well brag that they've attained up to 5075mw generation capacity and increasing.

But since you insist generation was 4000mw as at the time PDP handed over, kindly show us your evidence. I've presented several links to prove my own point.

pokipoki:
Hahahaha. The new government cannot not even maintain 5100MW. What a bunch of clowns!!!!.

Below shows the record of Nigeria's power generation as at the last week of May 2015 just before the last government handed over. Now kindly tell me who's the real clown running around swallowing nonsense lies about 5100mw?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/5381093_powergen_jpeg1c9f6029b22df1fe842d7c86b55cae51

Power jumping from 3000mw-1500mw-1330mw-1700mw within few days inside one week, and this sort of erratic rotten power system is what you claim to be 5100mw that couldn't be maintained?.... Who's really the gullible political propaganda swallowing clown here?
http://www.nsong.org/Library.aspx

magoo10:
•The Goodluck Jonathan administration has improved the power generation from around 2000 megawatts to 4502 megawatts in December 2012 the highest since Nigeria returned to democratic rule in 1999.
•By July this year, power generation will hit 6,000 megawatts and by December this year it will hit 10,000 megawatts (assurance given last week by Minister of State for Power).
•All ten Power Plants under the National Integrated Power Projects (NIPP) scheme to be commissioned by the end of this year. At the moment, majority of them have reached 95 percent completion stage.
•Improved power supply has been boosted in part by the emergency declared in the Gas sector last year by President Jonathan. At the time gas supply was insufficient. But now, thanks to the intervention by Mr. President, Nigeria now produces more gas than is required for domestic consumption.
•For more efficient power supply, the Jonathan administration has privatized the power distribution companies (DISCOs) under a most transparent bid process.
•Today, large parts of an unprecedented number of cities and towns across the country are enjoying between 14 to 16 hours of uninterrupted power supply, except in some few areas where localized problems of power distribution network have created bottlenecks for smooth transmission.

magoo10:
Power capacity hits 6000mw as Jonathan commissions FCT substation
By Emeka Anuforo, Abuja | 12 May 2015 | 4:49 am
President Goodluck Jonathan
PRESIDENT Goodluck Jonathan disclosed yesterday that the nation’s electricity generation capacity has increased to 6000MW just as he commissioned a 330/132/33kv transmission substation in Gwagwalada, Federal Capital Territory (FCT).
The substation, executed by the Niger Delta Power Holding Company (NDPHC) under the National Integrated Power Project (NIPP), is meant to boost the wheeling of generated power to FCT and environs.
Jonathan, who was represented by Vice President Namadi Sambo, also noted that the transmission infrastructure has increased to 5500mw, meaning that the nation is able to wheel much of the generated electricity, depending on the availability of gas.
According to him, the second phase of NIPPs through the hydropower plants would generate up to 4,000mw and step up wheeling capacity to 20,000mw. There are the large hyrdos and the 13 existing medium hydro dams, mostly in the northern part of the country.
The President also noted that his government had worked tirelessly to improve power in the country, stressing that posterity will judge his work positively. He noted that NIPP would soon enter its second phase, while assuring that the project would focus on the construction of hydropower plants, especially in the north.
Jonathan also spoke of efforts to diversify Nigeria’s energy sources in the power sector, stating: “We are confident that posterity will place us on the good side of history. All the projects undertaken under NIPP were professionally advised and executed in the interest of our great country.”
Of the FCT project, he noted: “Gwagwalada substation will evacuate power from 434mw Geregu II NIPP plant to the FCT through the 222.6kms 330kV double circuit line from Ajaokuta in Kogi State; there is a final 30km 330kV double circuit line terminating at the Shiroro (Niger State) and Katampe (Abuja) 330kV DC lines.
“Since the completion of these works, the FCT and indeed the national grid have experienced remarkable system stability, especially during system disturbances that have in the past resulted in total system collapse.”
Also speaking, the Minister of Power, Prof. Chinedu Nebo, stressed: “We are pleading with those vandalising our gas pipelines to give Nigeria a chance to enjoy what this administration has done. Today we have 6,000mw generation capacity, if there is gas, and we can evacuate up to 5,500mw.”

magoo10:
my friend go and sleep

Look at this young man littering my mentions with baseless political campaign jingles. What if I tell you the power ministry under Fashola has boosted Nigeria's power generation and transmission capacity to over 7000mw?... While that remains a FACT, power CAPACITY means nothing as long as the actual generation is still nonsense.

Highest power generation Nigeria ever attained prior to 2015 May 29th was 4517MW. Post May 29th, the peak power generation has gone beyond that to something above 5000MW (not sure of the exact figure), so quit spewing ignorance here... But then again, what exactly does it matter to hit a peak at a particular day and then relapse to nonsense figures for the rest of the time.

You claimed that GEJ/PDP handed over 4000MW to the current APC government, I proved to you that your claim was wrong, you should swallow your pride and go back to sleep.

three:
This are the Daily Operational Reports for the 22nd May 2015 and 29th May 2015 from the Nigerian Electricity System Operator http://www.nsong.org/Library.aspx

In being as bold as to make your assertions you should at least have fact checked the news source and gone to the original source.

All I can say is, many thanks for providing a more appropriate link to further substantiate my point.

NESO reports the "Lowest Generation of 22/05/2015" as 1,331MW, the Premium Times link which I provided earlier stated it to be 1,327MW, an insignificant difference in reportage. But remember I was only trying to correct an erroneous claim by the other dude (magoo10) who claimed 4,000MW was handed over to APC who have failed to maintain the 'perfect' power system handed over to them.
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/183496-nigerias-power-generation-at-all-time-low-crashes-to-1327mw.html

Examining the daily generation levels in that handover week, we had 2614MW (on 20th May), 1758MW (on 21st), 1331MW (on 22nd) and 1515MW (on handover day). This is the sort of erratic power supply someone claimed to be 4000MW. And guess what, even with your evidence provided, he still insists it was 4000MW (see his follow up post below). Dont know whether to laugh or cry for the kind of youths we have today even as we keep wondering why the old men have refused to leave leadership

magoo10:
See you .
check your facts well ,jonathan left power output at 4000mega watt ,even APC can't deny it let alone you.

Tinubu le leyi
fashola le leyi
otumba le leyi
ndi oshi le leyi
lols

magoo10:
See you .
check your facts well ,jonathan left power output at 4000mega watt ,even APC can't deny it let alone you.

Tinubu le leyi
fashola le leyi
otumba le leyi
ndi oshi le leyi
lols

I posted a link to support my point as a fact. Kindly step aside please if you can't substantiate your claims, I don't engage with people who dwell on empty conjectures.

Realtouchnot:
Chai.... Ndi Imo, we are snookered!!!!!!
2011 – 2019:
- Rochas Okorocha…Governor of Imo State/his wife 1st Lady
- His son-in-law…Chief of Staff
- His in-law…Minister of State for Education
- His sister…Deputy Chief of Staff
- His wife...Supervising 5 ministries
- His sister…SA Domestic Govt. House
- His son-in-law…APC Apex leader Orlu Zone
- His elder sister…APC Deputy Apex Leader Orlu Zone
- His elder brother…Sole collector of commercial vehicle tolls in the State
- His elder sister…Sole collector of all market tolls in the State
- His son-in-law…In charge of all allocation of land in the State
- His second daughter... board member, federal college of education, omoku
- His younger brother…In charge of Imo Transport Company manifest etc
- His wife…Head of Amnesty Affairs with N5billion allocation
- His mother’s nanny…VC Imo State University, Owerri
- His companies/surrogates…Construction of all roads and buildings purportedly by direct labour

His Projections for 2019
- Rochas Okorocha …Presidential Aspirant
- Rochas Okorocha…Vice Presidential Aspirant
- His wife…Senator Representing Orlu Zone
- His son-in-law…Governor of Imo State
- His daughter…1st Lady
- His Principal Secretary…House of Reps Member
- His niece…Alternate 1st Lady

okwa changi ka anyi choro!!!!!!!!!

The bad belle for this man is strong...

magoo10:
APC is associated with failure
the only thing filled in their brains is propaganda
they met power at about 4000 mega watts and what do we have today? darkness all over.

When you feel a compulsion to always politicise everything along the lines of PDP vs APC, you end up exposing your own ignorance. Since you claim the power crisis makes APC a failure, let's go down the road and determine who the bigger failure is.

PDP spent over $24 billion on power between 1999 and 2015 ($16 billion by OBJ and $8+ billion by GEJ). But what did PDP handover to APC with regards to power supply?

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/183496-nigerias-power-generation-at-all-time-low-crashes-to-1327mw.html
http://allafrica.com/stories/201505250099.html

1327mw was Nigeria's exact power generation figure on the week when PDP was handing over to APC. Your statement of 4000mw is either out of ignorance or a deliberate attempt at misinformation. So now that you know the truth, and since you want to play the apc vs pdp game, kindly tell us who is the bigger failure?

Izonpikin:
gej was from the Niger delta so if all his thoughts were directed towards oil we can all align with that..buhari is from the arid region let his economic thoughts flow along that line..who are these scalliwags you're talking about Are they not also apc members...whats your stress...your tinubus,ameachi et al all have private jets so what's your issue with gej??..did gej buy it for them??...

Tell buhari to diversify the economy with agriculture...he detests the Niger delta but wants money from the same zone to diversify shiiiiit....

Pointless arguments... So in your wisdom, because GEJ is from the Niger Delta which produces oil, so therefore he was right by ensuring he did nothing to diversify the entire nation's economy from oil?.. Because Buhari is from the north, then he should only make use of money from agriculture to govern the nation even as a president?.... What sort of childish mentality even props up these 0-0 kind of reasoning?

Talking of private jets, there was an income boom in the country between 2010 - 2014, Nigerians didnt see old refineries being fixed and neither did we see new ones spring up. We didnt see any single major road being completed, not to talk of anything major in the power sector. Only thing we got from those boom years was a proliferation of private jet ownership by every idiot out there and you think this is an APC vs PDP matter?... Any enlightened mind can easily discern that the lost opportunities in terms of invaluable infrastructure was substituted by those private jets and the lavish wasteful lifestyle which black man is naturally known for. But here you are, asking me whether it was GEJ that bought the private jets probably because it was my father that was responsible for overseeing the utilisation of Nigeria's revenue.

Lol... Uncle Jona

Oyindidi:
This one weak me

Lol... People dey go church shaa...

Izonpikin:
was buhari hoping to create revenue from oil??...what about tin, agriculture and industrialization??...is buharis umbilical cord tied to oil

What has the dullard done with the economy??...he created more cracks being the uneducated dullard he is..


Gej ensured the niger delta was at peace so that your salaries can be paid and so that foreign investors can thrive..what has buhari done but destroy all that...mtsheew


Was it not this same admin that fooled people like you with diversification??...where is it..nonsense...wasting time with you...

Money is needed to create money - #CommonSense

Diversification = Money x Time

Your oga had more money than everyone else who has ever ruled Nigeria 'put together', he also had 5 years but couldnt diversify a thing within that period; okay, since he couldnt create more money besides just the same ol' oil money, smart thing would have been to save in the boom days. But no! He preferred to squander and pillaged and reduced even the funds saved by others to large negative balance. At the end of the tenure, nothing to show for it except a large number of scallywags owning 1 and 2 private jets, no major roads completed, no refineries, no power improvement.

But now here you are, expecting a diversification miracle from someone else who has less than half the revenue your oga was getting and who has spent less than 2 years in power. And of course you call him a dullard for being unable to perform the miracle you expect him to conjure, but you call your oga a genius. Do we need to look far to see who the dullard truly is here?

Delta state has zero opposition, everybody licks Ibori's boots in the state. You only reap what you sow...

Izonpikin:
aside the apc propaganda that has kept you busy where is the evidence gej squandered all the monies you keep yapping about??...buhari is a Dullard that can't generate revenue for the country...full stop..as I speak to you your dullards and masters are all stealing our wealth and you're here talking about gej like a child..is gej still the one padding the budgets in the senate??..just go and swim somewhere with the gej propaganda...the likes of tinubu are recovering monies spent for elections and you're here shouting like a little kid...

If you think GEJ is your problem or nigerias present problem take a look at your Lord and savior buhari...

Rubbish..the fools don't know what excuse to give for their monumental failure...

And as for buhari let him enjoy spending our scarce resources in london..the same London you can't go to for treatment..nonsense..

Propaganda?... Since the very day jonathanians learnt of the existence of that word, they've used it indiscriminately not sparing a second to even consider what it means. Okay oga, since you want to loosely label the squander of Nigeria's oil boom between 2010 and 2014 'propaganda', can you please tell us what happened to all the money Nigeria made when oil unprecedentedly sold at an average above $100 for 4 years with full production (over 2million bbl/d)?

Cos from my own point of view, refinery we nor build, road we nor see (if you doubt, show me any major road project built/completed), power we nor see (even after they claim they spent over $8bn on power). Abeg where did all the money go to because at the end of the tenure, we had reserves run down to less than $30bn, we had borrowing and accumulated debt in several trillions, we had subsidy unpaid running into over N500bn and because all the money had finished even when oil was still above $60, we were already borrowing massively to pay salaries. So abeg wetin be the propaganda?

Oh sorry, you say Buhari cannot generate revenue for the country?... I can already see the so much revenue GEJ generated; no wonder it all evaporated as soon as oil price started dropping and oga Johnny had to borrow to pay salaries in 2015.

Izonpikin:
this guy sef..was it gej that handed over to the Dillard the first time he became president

Buhari is the definition of hunger and retrogresson..if you still can't see the obvious then you're on your own..even buhari had a wonderful health prior to his own regime..

He is the face of whatever suffering and hardship is...even if we give buhari the Chinese economy he would run it down and suffer the masses..thats buhari..

Obj handled nigeria with an oil price well below 30 dollars so what are you freaking saying..we don't want to hear those flimsy excuses...they are a waste of our time and your time..

You now drive the argument to a directionless mode, that's what typical jonathan boys are known for. In your logic, I'm sure it's the suffering in Nigeria in 2009 that led to Yaradua's sickness right?

Then again you claim obj handed over at $30?... My man, whilst the oil prices were actually double that figure, that isnt even the point so quit bending the direction of this talk. The point is that the amount of forex left in the reserves as at 2015 handover, obj left more than double that amount in the nation's reserves when he handed over in 2007. That is not withstanding the fact that oil prices were much lower then and same obj had cleared the nation's debts.

But wetin ur Goodulucku do?.... squandered the cash even though he had more than double the income obj earned and he still went further to borrow massively to even pay salaries thereby plunging Nigeria into needless debts. Now some people who still literally gobble on Johnny's poo saw nothing wrong in those borrowings and debts, but you think buhari who is borrowing to fund capital budget to get us out of recession is an evil useless failure because people are suffering today.

Meanwhile FG civil servants are about to go on strike cos oga Johnny couldnt pay them their benefit arrears since 2012/2013 (even with the massive revenue then). Yet some people feel buhati is the most useless one for being unable to instantly offset those debts in this time of recession.

Banana Island?

Izonpikin:
agree buhari foolishly added to our existing problems..agree buhari even destroyed the little we had...agree agree and agree...that is what you've failed to do..you are not waking to reality that buhari is a repetitive failure..

A bigger failure handed over a wrecked ship to him... There's presently an excuse of the major drop in oil prices which forced down Nigeria's revenue by up to 60%... But the big question is, what was the excuse of the last admin which enjoyed the largest revenue in Nigeria's history?... That gives you an insight into who the most useless govt truly is.

Izonpikin:
they squandered it all is what you've been programmed to say all your lives...i guess the gej administration has been in existence since the 1960s... so you still don't get it that this present administration is not only corrupt like every other administration but wicked and clueless..if it's not corruption what is buhari doing in the UK recieveing treatment after making a mammoth budget for Medicals in the aso villa...what value has buhari ever added to nigeria??...

An administration that has brought nothing but untold hunger to even supporters like you..what has your senate president achieved??..what has your governor achieved under buhari??...you think GEJ is or our problem

No I dont think GEJ is our problem, I simply think he's part of the bigger problem and his indiscretions played a very major role in putting us where we are today. That he was lucky to sign out and bail-out just before the pangs of the economic crisis hit the common man, that doesnt mean he doesnt have a large chunk pf the blamed. So when you begin to think the current govt is useless, also have in mind that a more useless govt handed over to this one.

In 2008 there was an oil crisis similar to what we have today, but because the leaders then had a 'little' foresight and prudence, they ensured the nation had a little buffer to wedge the economic crisis and thank God, the oil crisis episode of 2008 lasted only 6 months so Nigeria was saved. Today we have a crisis that has lasted close to 3 years straight and when it started, there was zero buffer funds to wedge the calamitous effects.

This is just like a soldier handing over a gun with no bullets to his colleague going into battle. And now the colleague is struggling hopelessly and of all the people in the world to complain, it is the very guys who handed over bulletless guns (and their supporters) that have the loudest voices of criticism. And you actually expect no one to mention the name of the previous soldier?

Oh yes! it is Buhari's duty to get us out of the mess, a thing he isnt doing well at, but the previous useless guys who worked overtime to create the mess should kindly shutup and stop insulting our collective intelligence

Izonpikin:
the next government would blame apc too for their foolish policies...hope you wont complain when That happens since the herpes illustration sweetens your body...

I am sure you know this apc government is the most useless nigeria has ever experienced..

The herpes analogy is a common-sensical narrative. There's nothing to be happy or sad about in it; it's just the reality of life which should be obvious to any enlightened mind; but unfortunately, many Jonathanians still cannot discern why it would be difficult to forget the indiscretions of the last admin. Even when some ignorantly blast the current admin for things that were clearly the fault of the last govt, they still wonder why the current guys keep defending themselves by mentioning the last admin.

And yeah, this admin might be useless, but nothing beats the useless uselessness of the last admin that inherited a fairly good economy, buoyant reserves and enjoyed unprecedented revenue boom, but still somehow ensured they squandered it all to the ground before leaving at an economic lull period effectively ensuring that their successors had zero economic armoury to ward off the impending economic crisis. Of course the crisis finally came down and the current guys are battling hopelessly to salvage the mess, but then, the same supporters of the wasters keep bragging about the 'giant wasting strides' of their heroes.

pressplay411:
It's sorta like herpes, it's gonna be hard not to keep cursing the Ex that gave it to you cos you keep confronting the problem every single day.
So until you get it cured (if possible) youre going to keep raining curses of that Ex.
That's APC predicament with PDP especially GEJ. Every where they go, every wrought in the system is a factor of the actions and inactions of the past government.

But we agree the last party goofed and was a total disaster, APC should rather focus on solutions and establishing their party as in fact the better option, no excuses.

God bless Nigeria and Nigerians.

This sums it all, this illustration answers the questions of those who keep asking why APC wouldn't stop talking about the last administration.

Worst of it all is when the same members of the last admin and their numerous weeping and wailing supporters still have the guts to have the loudest voices blaming the current guys for not automatically/miraculously solving the myriad of problems they created/couldn't solve in 5 years. A typical example was portrayed in a recent thread on this site where a multitude of these guys kept blasting the current admin for being unable to clear benefit arrears of FG civil servants owed between 2012 and 2015.