₦airaland Forum

Abiodunstephen:
https://dailypost.ng/2023/03/08/guber-election-god-forbid-aisha-yesufu-disagrees-with-peter-obi-over-governorship-candidate/?amp=1

I wish Frnak Nweke Jr. the best on Saturday though. THe man has been in urban and rural streets, markets and motorparks in Enugu for years, campaigning his life out. Would be a pain if suddenly he loses to an unknown person just cos of the OBIDIENT wave.

Seriously, how are there even Nigerians who don't like this man?... What kind of people are we exactly?

Everyone on this thread seems to agree that Lithium batteries are more expensive and more reliable but no one seems to have mentioned the actual cost of these lithium batteries.

What are the lithium batteries like and how much do they really cost?

mancoconut:
Don't worry Fulani herdsmen are just testing microphone, they were even nice under Buhari government, now they have a Muslim/Muslim government to do even worse... I have absolutely no sympathy for Benue people, to each their own at this point in Nigeria.

How are you so sure the people who were killed voted for APC?..... Did you check the election results in their locality?

Even if the election results in their area shows that APC won, how are you so sure the people actually did the voting (especially given the kind of election results we saw in Rivers)?

Make una try dey use una brain sometimes when spewing hatred out of anger.

The Grace upon Peter OBI's life is just blessing people that least expected anything good!

Despite the mindless violence, brutal rigging, voter disenfranchisement and result manipulations by APC officials, thugs, INEC officials and Nigerian Police, OBI still won with a little margin. Cant even imagine what the margin would have been if the election was free and fair.

Good thing Lagos has a large number of brave, formidable and outspoken OBIDIENTS who firmly stood up to the shameless Tinubu thugs. Observing what happened in Lagos, one doesn't need look too far to understand why OBI couldn't poll up to 20% in other SW states where the OBIDIENTS arent as formidable to withstand the thugs.

Hopium:
This one eye don clear. Political amateurs! If e didn't dey...

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Yeah right! Black man and barbarism!... You are so popular yet you resort to the use of thugs and electoral manipulations... Enjoy your filthy victories while they last!

2mch:
Your papa na cripple.

Sorry, my papa no be cripple. I ask you again, if you no be cripple, why you need okada to reach your polling booth? It's a simple question.

2mch:
Yes.

Are you a cripple? Why do you need bike to get to your polling station?

2mch:
Hungry man no get money to enter bike go vote.

Enter which bike? have you ever voted in your life? Why do you need bike to get to your polling booth?

juman:
Southerners dont go out to vote.
See:
Registered voter = 78056.
Total votes casted = 12371.

Not up to twenty percent turn out.

THe number of people who went out to vote in the south is far more than previous elections. THese voter turnout numbers are strange.

2mch:
No money. People are hungry. Voting is not their problem. Were Easterners not jubilating when Buhari changed currency? E bite everybody.

No money is even a far bigger reason for more people to come out.

The turnout in this election is confusing. Even with the massive enthusiasm that heralded the election, we're getting less than 20% turnout even in the SE?

LordAdam16:
Right, you celebrated Buhari's win. But the REC's murder that gave him a Kardashian vote torrent, you had a problem with.

Guy rest.

-Lord

So because I celebrated his victory it automatically means i excused and applauded electoral violence and murder? Clowns!

LordAdam16:
As a hypocrite per excellence, you stopped applauding it when it stopped favoring you.

-Lord

Oga no need for clownish trash, Ive been on this forum for long enough. Kindly go back and point out where Obailala supportrf or applauded the murder of REC officer or just sharrap!

JagabanBorgu:
It's constitutional to bring party agents, I don't see why u are trying to make it a crime now.
Ur party can't field càndidàtes in so many states, that's structure.

Yes its constitutional because the constitution recognises that some people could be criminally minded and want to manipulate results.

The constitution encourages party to have witnessing agents to prevent manipulation of any kind against their results. But unfortunately in Nigeria, the party agents, in connivance with electoral officers, police and military, are the principal culprits who manipulate the results. That's why the PDAPC brags about having agents everywhere and taunts smaller parties like LP for not having sufficient agents. It's all about manipulation and criminality.

LordAdam16:
If an intruder breaks into your house at night, you don't walk down the stairs to converse with him. You pick a weapon for the safety of your family.

PDP and APC are working their magic in their strongholds currently, while you're whining on the Internet. If you can't help yourself to win an election against undemocratic forces, how do you intend to help those who you made fantastic, unobtainable promises to.

In 2015, you were indifferent when the Kano REC and his family were burned to death, so that Buhari could defeat the incumbent. Obi relied on PDP structure in 2019 to get votes in the North.

Now, you have a problem with structure of criminality when it serves your narrative. All of you are not ready. I only pity the average folks who were hoodwinked to believe your postulations of grandeur that Obi's win was inevitable.

-Lord

You're still saying the same thing - It's a structure of criminality!

Keep applauding criminality and barbarism simply because you think it favours you.

Antoeni:
https://dailypost.ng/2023/02/26/why-using-thugs-if-you-truly-have-structure-falz-questions-apc-over-attacks/

Of course the structure they talk about is exactly thise thugs who destryrd and disrupted the elections.

JagabanBorgu:
Ok, the electoral acts are wrong now because ur càndidàte couldn't provide agents for 2/3 of polling units acróss the country, u didn't talk about the càndidàtes they don't have to feature, I guess In a sane country, having càndidàtes on the ballot is poor too.

Not sure I comprehend what you're trying to say. Whoever mentioned anything about an electoral act and what does that have to do with your 'criminal structured' party rigging the election in broad day light?

LordAdam16:
It is a problem the world over. Even in the US, in 2020, in Georgia, party poll watchers were ushered out of the collation center, then the windows were barricaded. And hours later Biden pulled ahead surprisingly.

The default nature of humans is to do whatever is possible to get their way. If they have to cut corners, they will. That is why the US has 100+ bases, 10+ aircraft carriers sailing the oceans, and all that. Tomorrow if we act stubbornly and go against one of their red lines, they'll cook up a pretext and take another swing at gun-barrel diplomacy.

Tinubu has been working towards this for 20 years. You are not going to expect him to entertain "saner clime" noise, when his ambition is well within his grasp. Even if he holds back, the likes of Oluomo who have benefitted humongously from his political capital will act on their own initiative.

The hallmark of civilized societies is being able to whitewash their barbarism. Believing otherwise is naïve. JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and UBS over the past few weeks have been decrying the shady economic data coming out of the US. Do you think the Democrats and Biden care? F*ck no.

Canada arrested, closed bank accounts, and seized donation funds of peaceful protesters with bouncy castles. They're stereotypically the politest people on the planet. Thinking you're going to change this country by getting everyone to hold hands, sing kumbaya, and hum mantras while sitting in a peaceful oasis; is how we consistently these horrible outcomes.

In any case, you wanted Tinubu, so I'm not sure why you're complaining. This is his trademark.

You guys will do f*ck all until 2031, then start complaining about PDP and APC, when things do not go your way. Play the game, then reform it from the inside. That's what Tinubu did in Lagos. Too bad he is an ethnic supremacist.

Obi should have taken the VP offer. If Atiku underperforms, he builds an image of being sidelined like Osinbajo. Then in 2031, he'll repeat Jonathan's 2011 landslide. But patience is a virtue that sounds simple in theory, but hard to practice.

Most of us here are doing fine. But before you know it 8 turns into 16, 16 turns in 24. Next thing you know, you're getting grandkids. And although they don't ask, you'll pretend like you don't feel some way about their Nigerian passports gathering dust while mothers are r*ped in the hinterlands.

-Lord

At the end, we all agree that the only structure which the LP doesnt have and which the APC and PDP arrogantly brag about is just a structure of criminality.

Summary of all you've said is that this structure of criminality also exists in the US.

JagabanBorgu:
But LP never had party agents in thousands upon thousands of polling units, LP don't have càndidàtes to feature in most states of Nigeria, that's the structure, those càndidàtes are what will influence votes in his favor outside the influence of social media.

If not for the activities of thugs and compromised INEC and security officials, why exactly should a party not having agents in all polling stations be a problem? ...

Just imagine the nonsense happening in Rivers state where OBI is extremely popular and where APC is despised. Even the LP party agents were chased away from collation centres by policemen attached to the governor and compromised INEC officials were made not to upload results and in some instances, results werent even counted infront of voters.

In a sane and civilised society, a candidate without 'structure' can win elections as long as they are popular. But in a barbaric society like ours, such a candidate irrespective of how popular he is, still needs to plant agents everywhere to prevent his votes from being tampered with. What a shame!

Whether we like it or not, the structure we talk of, the structure which APC and PDP arrogantly brag about is a structure of criminality.

seborrhic:
The typical Nigerian politician's mindset and the operating stereotype in Nigeria is that once they lose elections after contesting under a minority party,even if the party does appreciably well and wins some seats,is for them to go quiet till the next general elections,or decamp to the ruling party at the earliest opportunity.
The Labour party,primarily because of the dream that Peter obi brought,has done marvellously well in these elections,though it fell short of general victory.
LP is likely going to win significant number of seats in the senate and HOR and its presence would also be registered even in areas in the North it didn't do well.
That is why it's now incumbent on Obi not to do any of the following:
Despair and go quiet politically
Decamp to the ruling party or back to the PDP,unless to form a major alliance with it.
Allow the LP to become a voiceless,timid opposition,rather than the one that would hold the incoming government of Tinubu to account for its policies.The LP should become the active voice of the Nigerian people,lest the same pains and ignored cries people suffered under the Buhari government persists.
Obi should also start to form the structures of the LP using its elected members and ensure or find a strategy that ensures that those that won elections under the party, primarily due to Obi 's influence,don't decamp to the ruling party.
He should not become like an Agbaje who only becomes active during Lagos Guber polls or an Atiku for example,who only thinks and plans for the presidency towards the tail end of a government.
He should learn from what Tinubu has done and build on it,building structures, alliances,only that his own alliance should be with honest,determined individuals with the same mindset to grow the LP to a formidable force that will give the then ruling party a tougher fight on all fronts,come 2027.

The only structure OBI doesnt have is a good network of thugs, corrupt police, corrupt INEC staff, judges, military men etc.... All of these are barbaric structures.

The structure Tinubu has is just the network of thugs snatching ballot boxes and disrupting elections around Lagos, Rivers state and others. Also the network of compromised INEC staff who bluntly refused to upload election results with hope of changing numbers overnight and the network of policemen / soldiers who the aid, abet and secure the riggers.

adanny01:
I believe you understand my point but you have been running circles around it.

Oga I dont understand any point you're making. You've been the one jumping from pillar to post with bizarre interpretations; saying "oppsite of education is not minority" and that "a retired prof living in the village isnt on social media". What exactly does that mean? Oga you arent saying anything; try and define your point.

My own point has been simple from the start - OBI is more popular amongst educated folks, which is the reason he wins every online poll.

Hendrixky:
If Obi fails to win river state because of massive rigging being carried out by wike now then wike should forget about his political career


We South South and South East are going to kill his political career

OBI will not lose Rivers, lai lai! But the problem with the rigging is that it significantly reduced the block votes OBI is meant to get from the state.

adanny01:
Same here.

You asked about those who are educated but are not aligned to Obi and I responded that these people are in the minority; i.e. amongst the educated folks, the majority support OBI but the minority are not for OBI.

What exactly is difficult to understand in the above response? What exactly is the point you tried to make by saying "opposite of education is not minority"? Is that what you understood from my response?

adanny01:
What is the opposite of educated? I am sure it's not minority.

What exactly is your point? I dont believe my english grammar is too difficult to understand.

Hehehe... this one choke!!!...

God Abeg oo! May the ordinary Nigerians win over these structured bandits! Amen!

Of course this is the only way the idiots hope to win elections, through mindless violence, intimidstion and disruptions.

adanny01:
My original comment had to do with outcomes of online polls Vs the real election.

You wrote this


What does this mean really? Looks like Obi is associated with educated Nigerians as you say. It's is also safe to say Educated people are aligned to Obi. What about those who are educated but are not aligned to Obi? What are they?

They are a minority. If only educated Nigerians were to vote in the election, OBI would win with an extremely wide margin.

shizzle1:
you were also one if those that cheered him when he invited army to kill innocent Igbos in obigbo 2 years ago, not so?

Are you okay? Obailala cheering the murder of innocent people? are you okay?

adanny01:
What are you trying to say?

Is a retired professor who has relocated to his village and has no internet connection an illiterate?

In your own sense, every Nigerian who is educated must vote Obi and the illiterates vote for Atuku, Tinubu, Kwankwaso etc? How did you get that logic and where did you place yourself?

Are you saying those Tinubu supporters who are educated are actually illiterates?

How did you arrive at these extreme conclusions from what I wrote? So if I say "the majority of people in rural areas are uneducated", how on Earth did you interprete that to mean "everybody in rural areas, including the retired prof, are illiterates"? ...Obviously, not every one who is educated wants OBI and not every illiterate wants APC/PDP; I dont want to believe my English grammar was really that complex and misleading.

The point I made was simply - the majority of people on social media are educated (True or False?), and this largely includes the majority of people who get to vote in all these online polls (that is not to say there arent educated people who don't use social media). With OBI always winning every single online poll with a brutally wide margin, it indicates something; that OBI is the most popular candidate amongst educated Nigerians. Again, that is not to say there arent educated people who want the other candidates.

maasoap:
I pray he does. Wike's lovers are now his haters.

You pray he succeeds in murdering people with thugs and militants?