₦airaland Forum

emmasege:
This is why I am more comfortable addressing the VP as Prof and not Pastor. Addressing this one as a Pastor tarnishes the name and body of Christ.
Does he even travel by roads? APC is a wrong association for anyone.

Sorry bro, he isn't tarnishing the image of Christ, rather you are the one tarnishing the image of all the schools you attended from childhood for not knowing the meaning of the word 'new.'

The daftness of most Jonathanians truly knows no bounds. 10 pages already exhausted on this thread with pained Jonathanians who do not know the meaning of the word 'NEW.'

Very Wonderful!

baralatie:
Have you been and seen east west roads and auchi road plus uromi delta roads excluding the roads in the north!
Osinbajo was very off about the comments on new roads

Is the east-west road new?. .. is the benin auchi road new?... in fact was the planned dualisation of the benin auchi road progressed at all?.... and what percentage of the east west road dualisation did GEJ do?

denko:
THIS IS SERIOUS THING WE HAVE A FOR A PRESIDENT.

Lol... exactly the same results come out for jonathan. But I think OBJ's own is the funniest

Is Obasanjo an Igbo man?
Is Obasanjo from onitsha?

You stand with corruption, you stand with foolishness. Very typical!

shocker007:
My Bad. Corrected.

But please we should try to give credit when something is done because no matter our political differences, We are still Nigerians and Nigeria is still our country.

I give credit to him for fixing the bad portion and making travel through the road pleasurable again. But then, I am irked at the level of adulation he gets as being a demi god because I dont believe he did as much as even obj who we all know was useless.

talktonase:
By the time this verdict is fulfilled it will only further cause more aggitations in the minds of the Ndigbo.Ethnic prejudice will continually fester and they will stand on the premise that the reason why he will be hanged is because we have a northern president forgetting the henious crime he committed 10yrs ago.

Not at all, I dont think anybody can be that stupid to agitate for rev kong. Anybody who agitates on any grounds (be it ethnic or regional or religious) if Rev King is killed is an animal who also deserves to be killed; starting from the chief Udo Udeogaranya himself. Besides, the victim of Rev king is also an Igbo person.

shocker007:
Patching of a bad portion you say?
Come on man, Don't tell me you hate him this much.
GEJ revamped the whole road man.

I dont hate him but I cant stand the irrational hype he gets from his worshipers when in reality, he was just a failure, a pathetic failure especially when considering the revenue he had compared with the past.

All over the place we keep hearing strange propaganda about how the man was exceptionally wonderful in road construction and bla bla and I keep wondering how such deceit could sink so deep into the hearts of people even long after elections. I just keep wondering where these roads are becuase when I do a little retrospection, even the much vilified obj completed more roads as I can remember but propaganda has totally swept that fact under the carpet.

Oh yes GEJ only fixed a very terrible portion of the road which saves a lot of headache for travellers, he didnt revamp the entire road as you claim because more than half of the road is still bad (i.e. between Ore and sagamu), however, even the useless OBJ completed the dualisation of the asaba to benin road, built a brand new 25km benin bypass (which cuts 2-3hours for travellers by avoiding benin city) and also built a bit of the benin shagamu road stretching almost close to Ore but I dont think he deserves any special praise because he obviously could have done more. So my point is that I find it strange that the very same people who claim obj is an imp are the ones claiming gej is a god for rehabilitating a less than 30km portion of this road.

Once again, I do not hate GEJ, rather I am disgusted by the hype.

shocker007:
If you read the thread, you will see where i wrote:



Also its "worshipers" not "worshippers".
Now i wonder who should be wondering which school who attends.

BTW, i'm not GEJ worshiper but a Nigerian who wants the development of his country.

I wasnt only referring to you, I was also calling out the numerous folks who have been calling the VP a liar all because they can't comprehend elementary English language.

And yes, if you so much agree that the VP wasnt lying, I'm yet to understand what you implied by your first sentence, "I don't really know what VP Osinbajo is saying about GEJ not building any road". The VP clearly said, 'new road' and not 'any road.'

And finally, did you really ask what we needed New Road Paths for? You probably never travelled between the east and Lagos before 2003 when there was nothing like the Benin bypass.

Jonathanians never get tired of extolling the almost zero virtues of their god even long after election. Imagine opening a whole new thread to celebrate the patching of a bad portion of a very long road, and one would think the man even fixed this road with his pocket money.

keyzid:
I'm just sad.... APC has succeeded in changing a whole pastor the other way round... Now A liar. God help this nation.

Stop being an illiterate. Go and buy a f**kin dictionary and lookup the meaning of the word 'new'

shocker007:
I don't really know what VP Osinbajo is saying about GEJ not building any road, but if you are familiar with Benin-Ore road before now.
We know this roads can take hours of our time to travel on.
But ever since GEJ worked on it. The road is a bliss till today and i can't but keep saying God will bless that man.

Except if the VP meant Creating a New Road Path and not Revamping the already destroyed ones.
Even as at that, what do we need New Road Path for?

I only wish Politics isn't played this way and people get to work more than they talk.

I keep wondering the kind of school some jonathan worshippers went to. Since when has the word 'NEW' become so ambiguous that hordes of people cannot comprehend it's meaning anymore?

kutchs:
Those roads particularly the Benin-Ore road drank the blood during OBJ's time. I remember when Diezani Allison-Madueke as minister of works under OBJ wept on seeing the condition of that road without her principal doing anything. Do I need to remind you that GEJ fixed the road?

GEJ fixed a portion of the road, just the same way OBJ fixed a portion of the same road. A large portion of the road is still bad till date, kudos however to GEJ for fixing a really bad portion and saving travellers a lot of headache. It is meaningless however to say GEJ fixed the road and then castigate OBJ at the same time. If you think GEJ is a messiah for fixing that bad portion, I wonder what you will say about OBJ who constructed the benin bypass (brand new, not patching) which cuts off roughly 2-3 hours of benin city traffic for travellers on the same road. The 2015 election propaganda has really distorted the arguments of many to the point of erroneously thinking GEJ is a god and OBJ a devil.

bxcode:
Why are you defending the vp, you think you are the smart one here? How does that statement solve any issue in the country? These guys were elected to fix things and not to complain that this are broken.
Using your acclaimed smartness to defend something that is meaningless and without definite purposes to me is shameful.

Just like you and I, we all have a right to free speech. The VP stating that no new roads were built does not mean he is not going to do his job. But then, you have no right to take away his right to free speech.

PhockPhockMan:
What do you mean by entirely new roads? has roads become airport that you can build new one? One thing about APC is that they know how to make lies look like truth.
Don't you know it's more expensive to reconstruct old road than to build new one.
Wait o o, what's the need for this trash from vice president?

Trying hard to sound intelligent but you only expose your ignorance. The VP may have made the statement for the sake of politics but every sensible person knows he is not lying at least. And did you just imply it is not possible or sensible to build a new road?... Did you also just say it is cheaper to build a new road than repairing an old bad one?... So if it's cheaper to build a new road, why wouldnt the government just build brand new ones side-by-side instead of patching bad spots on old roads?

An example of a new road was the benin bypass built by OBJ which cuts out about 2hrs from the journey of travelers as they avoid the benin city traffic. Jonathan could have built a new road if he actually built the 2nd Niger bridge because that would help travellers completely avoid the mad onitsha traffic.

A simple advice, stop exposing your ignorance by trying to insult the VP.

jippyjappa:
"...a new road is the Benin Bypass..." its baba-go-slow that did that road abi?

The benin bypass is a good example of a new road. And I believe it was built and launched in 2002 under OBJ.

lookandlaff:
Nigerians call themselves educated, they read but don't understand. Osinbajo said Jonathan did not build any NEW roads, repairing existing roads is not building a new road so both Fashola and Osinbajo are right. Jonathan repaired more roads than OBJ ....I don't even know if OBJ repaired any road during his time.

Who told you Jonathan actually repaired more road than OBJ?... Who told you roads were not fixed under OBJ?... A lot of people have truly fallen deeply for the propaganda of the 2015 elections. By the way, who told you Fashola actually made that statement about GEJ fixing 25,000km of roads?. .. Try and google the statement and please point out one credible website that reported Fashola making that incredulous statement?

ugnmezi:
Another Cheap bloody Lies, let me list dem, the new ones are musa yardua road, eight lanes as long as oshodi apapa expres way if not longer, suleja kubuwa road longer dan oshodi apapa, kano maidugiri linkin 4 states, abuja lokoja road, it is key to note dat some times it cost more to rehabilate roads dan build new ones cos u will need to remove n recover. Hv u heard of mr buldozer in GEJ regime, plz google it.

I drove through Abuja-Lokoja road for the first time in 2004, at least I am sure that road has existed even before I was born. How do Nigerian graduates/undergrads not even know the meaning of the word 'new'?.... in terms of dualisation, work on that road has been ongoing since OBJ's days and it's still not been completed till date. So how on earth does anyone think it is a 'new' road built by GEJ?... Or is it Apapa oshodi?... a 'new' road?... God help us!

PhockPhockMan:
[size=15pt] Is Osinbajo still a pastor?
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APC have corrupted with lies.

http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/jonathan-constructed-more-roads-than-any-other-nigerian-president-fashola/

iamkeyz:
ha ha ha ha ha
osinbade is learning fast o, he may even topple lie mohamed if care is not taken
so GEJ built zero roads abi?
ok o
i guess then that its the ones built by OBJ that we are still plying because ajala the presidiot is yet to pass common budget and he is also yet to stay 3 weeks at home
i dont blame utomi who said that soon people will cue to buy salt
nonsensical lielieistical osinbadeistical osinbad the vice presidiot
nonsense

Ezenwammadu:
APC can turn pastors into bloody shameless liars

hartopher76:
fashola will and tell us that gej built the highest number of roads in nigeria, osibanjo will tell us that non was built by gej so who among them is saying the truth.

Today I have confirmed the true meaning and existence of educated illiterates. Several people on here genuinely do not know the difference between building a NEW road and rehabilitating/patching an OLD existing road. It's truly a shame!

@Phockphockphock, can you kindly provide a reasonable link to your incredulous report?... You dont expect normal people to actually believe that GEJ built 25,000km of roads do you?.. abeg how many kilometres of roads dey naija?

Cc: Sacluxpaint

God help us!

ahckmedkosy:
I won't want to trade words wit u over the authenticity of the news or if Goodluck eva Did construct roads. Bigotry will never yield anytin good

Simple Fact 101: The report is nonsense; it's a bloody lie and is not even possible.

Here is someone talking of bigotry like he even knows what it is, I can assure you that it is only bigotry or blind love/followership of a man that would make any educated or enlightened adult believe or try to defend such blatantly incredulous report on road rehabilitation.

Jonathan fixed 25,000km of roads indeed, I suppose the roads were in the moon? if I ask you to list one or 2 roads in your vicinity you would dig up some convoluted propaganda which people shared during elections.

ahckmedkosy:
Babatunde Raji Fashola , Nigeria’s Minister for Power, Works and Housing on Tuesday while unveiling his plans praised the achievements of former President Goodluck Jonathan.

Fashola during his first news conference tagged “Setting the Agenda for Delivering Change” said that Goodluck Jonathan has constructed more roads than any president ever in Nigeria.

He also acknowledged that the Transformation in the power sector is above 50 % and that he would try to build on it.

Minister of State for Works, Adebayo Adeyeye, also  said that  Jonathan’s administration has recorded more success in the provision of motorable roads than any other administration in the history of Nigeria.

Adeyeye, who spoke as a guest on Channels Television’s Sunrise Daily programme on Monday, insisted that the Jonathan administration has made considerable progress in the road sector, more than any of the governments that have administered the country.
According to him, the administration in 2011 had about 4,500 kilometres of fairly motorable roads, just as he explained that today the administration has about 25,000 kilometres of very good roads.

Source:
http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/jonathan-constructed-more-roads-than-any-other-nigerian-president-fashola/

How come no single 'normal' newspaper or media house ever reported this Fashola quote?... Why do I only read about this quote from questionable blogs and facebook statuses of staunch jonathanians? Yeye dey smell!

Hollup hollup!! did the report just say Jonathan fixed 25,000 km of roads to 'very good' standards? Abeg how many kilometres of road dey Nigeria? This has to be the dumbest blab of the century.

chubhiee:
Perhaps, they have realised that the current government is filled with madmen who can't be reasoned with judging by their antecedents.
Madmen leading mad people is a sure recipe for implosion you would agree with me.

So when jonathanians force you guys in Apc to eat the humble pie you should do that without putting up any form of resistance.

Learn to make your words soft and sweet just in case you are made to eat them.

Well, a whole population shouldn't be judged based on the uncouth words of a few. El Rufai truly went overboard then, but even though the others were harsh, I don't think it was in the level of mallam Rufai.

chubhiee:
You need to see what might el rufia said about Gej in church to be able to appreciate what the gentle reflective mind as the OP meant.

I clearly remember el Rufai making numerous filthy statements unbecoming of a man of his status then; in fact he almost ran mad during his opposition days going by his constant vituperations on his facebook page. Going by those statements of el rufai back then, I agree, Jonathanians have every single right to insult Buhari as they want. But then, does it really make any sense if everyone acts mad?

Because of a single picture in a mosque, the Op composes this lengthy epistle?

Sometimes I really feel sorry for these Jonathanian wailers

What kind of report is this?

Bla bla bla...

lekkie073:
when a soccer team is technically defeated it means....
they r losing by a 5goal margin, they have utilised all their substitutions, they have two players sent off and suddenly their keeper break leg

dat team is technically defeated

Please tell them.

Some people keep asking this same question over and over and one just keeps wondering why these people can't use their wisdom to discern the meaning of some simple terms.

This is really sad. But I'm sure it was done in good faith.

Adminisher:
The lesson is that we have a crooked and manipulated country.

People also tell LIES a lot.

The big lie is "market forces". There is no such thing in Nigeria. Hoarding, artificial scarcity, corruption, inefficiency are the determinants of prices.

We need Buhari so that institutions and big individuals start playing by the rules of the market.

Trust me, this matter is more than what Buhari can handle. The devils in the system are too much, just like Ubah spoke up, it would require many other powerful Nigerians to come out and speak up more regularly to nip these devils in the bud. The problem is that, it is mainly these 'big men' who should normally speak up that gain from these circumstances, so most of them remain mute.

Anticabal:
Everything.

Ok

Bevista:
True. Most Central Bank Governors use rhetorics a lot to drive market sentiments in line with what they want. But the trick is that the market must believe that you have the Will to act if needed.
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I don't know if Ubah's audacious statement is responsible for the sudden appreciation of the Naira, but I do know that it can only affect the Speculative Demand component of the market. The economic fundamentals have not suddenly changed overnight, the 41 de-listed items by CBN still have to source for dollars from the parallel market. If what is driving the rate is a sudden injection of dollars into the market, the question is whether such supply is sustainable week after week to meet demand.
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When speculative demand is discounted, the true exchange rate should be around N250 - N300. Ubah's N200/$ is impossible on a sustained basis.

I strongly believe the threat by Ubah influenced this naira appreciation. With the audacity and confidence with which he spoke, and knowing who he is, I think the speculators were simply scared that he may 'spoil' their business.

As for the true price of the dollar, I think you are right, the true value when considering the low oil prices and less the activities of speculators should be in the range of N250-N300.