₦airaland Forum

chukwudi44:
Bros there is nothing like prioritizing in this case.That would be sheer hypocrisy!!! So Buhari would receive looted funds from pre-2011 looters for funding his campaign and thereafter starts prosecuting post 2011 looters? Is that your view of anti-corruption war? are you for real dude

A bird in hand is worth more than 10 birds in the sky. It is only a f00l that will not consider securing the bird in his hands firstly before setting out to hunt the birds in the sky; it is only a f00l that will not consider prioritising in such a situation.

You obviously want the president elect to fail, hence your advice but I'm sorry, he is not a f00l. Call him an illiterate or whatever, if that's what rocks your canoe, you can please yourself. But the fact remains that he is not a f00l and he will not be a f00l because you want him to.

Very soon someone would just drop dead while embarking on these Mosaic treks and that is when the madness will finally stop.

gsainttrinity:
Can you prove it was God's will? Or is its will flexible enough to assume the outcome of whatever whether or not it contradicts previous position?

I am not a prophet so I cannot categorically confirm if it's God's will. But Jonathan had clearly overstepped his boundaries and overstayed his welcome. For anyone who is informed of the happenings in Nigeria and who has risen above the level where his/her judgement is beclouded by silly sentiments, it was crystal clear that a single extra day of Jonathan would have spelt doom for Nigeria... and then suddenly, we get a miraculous case of an incumbent president losing a presidential election in Africa. What else could be a better example of the HAND OF GOD?!

frankyychiji:
Obailala where have you been? Nigerians have been ra.ping your aunt since o! Thank God you are here now.

@topic, Oby deserves every invective poured on her here. This is because when she came with the Bbog struggle, we threw our weights behind her not knowing that she was just acting a script from the enemies of state. We thought she was genuine until the Oyegun himself told the world on national TV, that Bbog was an arm of Apc and not a pressure group for good governance.

And so fvcking what?!

What if the official BBOG pressure group was an APC arrangement?... Does that invalidate the fact that terrorists are abducting and raping people in the north east while the president at the time didnt give a damn?... Where is our collective common sense in this country?... So because BBOG is APC then the girls shouldn't be rescued or the president should have been allowed to keep on doing NOTHING right?.. Is that your suggestion?

What about the other millions of Nigerians and foreigners flashing the BBOG hashtag, were they also APC?... SO the rallying call for the government to wake up to its responsibilities and rescue the abducted women should have been stopped because a group of people in Abuja headed by Oby ezekwesili are in APC?... Some nincompoops may say no girl was ever abducted but just yesterday the Nigerian Army announced the rescue of over 200 girls who ironically are not even the Chibok girls; this just gives an insight into the sheer population of females and teenagers that must have been abducted by the terrorists over the years.

Now I ask again, what is wrong in APC calling on the government to rise up to its responsibilities?... What else is the job of an opposition party if not to torment the ruling party to stand on their toes?

gsainttrinity:
Never has it been in our history as a country has a sitting president sort the approval of God to help retain his position as the number one person as did our dear Goodluck Jonathan.
We watched him call on every church assembly anywhere within the length and breath of the federation from the popular ones like ''winners chapel and RCCG'' to the not too popular ones in remote areas in Otuoke.
Interestingly he was loved in return with one of his closest persons being members of the clergy like the influential Ayo Oritsejafor. The president visited Jerusalem, had the privilege of having the most anointed Nigerian pastors lay hands on him as individuals and group. To many faith-fools like myself, his victory in the polls was certain I mean [size=13pt]who can change what God has ordained according to the numerous prophecies.[/size]

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By: @gsaint_trinity (twitter)

Indeed, who can change what God has ordained?

The results of the election just proved that God can never be mocked and that God loves Nigeria more than we think we do. Jonathan was probably ordained and anointed by God in 2010 to lead Nigeria out of backwardness, poverty and stagnation, but what did he do?... As soon as he got in, he turned his back on God and on the masses of Nigeria and took sides with the same set of cabals whom have impoverished and imprisoned the nation for decades. Not more than once we heard cases of billions upon billions in dollars being looted under his watch but his only reaction was to come on TV to lie, defend and protect the very beasts holding the nation down. It got to a ridiculous extent when even whistle blowers were victimised for speaking out and every single genuine complaint about corruption was dismissed as politics. The same Jonathan also succeeded in dividing Nigeria sharply along religious and ethnic lines by hypnotising the SE and SS not to see any single thing wrong in his maladministration.

Jonathan squandered the goodwill he enjoyed freely from the people and the anointing he enjoyed from God. Just like King Saul in the bible, the anointing was withdrawn in the most dramatic manner; Nigerians saw an incumbent president lose an election. God had clearly ordained someone else to navigate us out of our mess, have you ever wondered how the unpopular and perpetually unelectable mallam suddenly became popular early this year?... Indeed, who can change what God has ordained?... God doesn't always give you want you want (cos it could destroy you), God gives you what you need.

Chigold101:
oby is one of Nigeria‘s secret enemy.

How did she know that the military has committed human right abuse? Is she a soldier or does she live in North East?

What sort of silly question is this?... Are you aware there were mobile phone videos circulating on Youtube to this effect?

The Nigerian Army has carried out human rights abuses in every single crises spot where they were sent to enforce peace; remember Odi massacre, Odioma, Benue, Warri etc. Very soon you will play dumb about the way soldiers brutalise civilians on our streets everyday, or maybe someone who claims to be educated will soon claim he/she doesn't know the meaning of human rights abuse?... With what we all know about the antecedents of our armed forces (military, police, lastma, civil defence etc.), why do you think the Nigerian Army suddenly became saints in the north east?

Contrary to your claim, you and your type are the biggest enemies of Nigerian civilisation.

NCOIM:
This Woman is a big time Old fool

Madam Due Process To Stupidom.

With her mouth like kpomo

Sorry but you are clearly the big time young f00l for calling someone else a f00l for no reason.

We are in trouble because even a younger military Buhari would have found it difficult to handle this mess...

sweetguy26:
Sometimes I don't understand if we Nigerians suffer from a collective amnesia. It is common knowledge that the NNPC has always been inefficient and corrupt, even long before the advent of the administration of GEJ. Why is everybody acting like the whole problem started when GEJ became president?
The NNPC act gave the corporation arbitrary powers to spend beyond its control. This is not practiced in most advanced countries that are oil producers. Rather than call for solutions to stop the blatant corruption and inefficiency perpetuated by the NNPC, some people are calling for GEJ's head. What has GEJ got to do with it? The petroleum industry bill has been modified twice and sent to the NASS but it has always been shut down by strong interests. The bill proposes various solutions to curb the mismanagement and inefficiency in the oil and gas sector. Why aren't nigerians protesting and calling for the bill to be passed?
If Buhari's administration does not pass the bill within the next four years, I'm sorry to say that the corruption and mismanagement in the oil sector will continue, and we will continue to complain.

NNPC has always been inefficient and corrupt but the corruption and careless looting sky-rocketed to an unprecedented demonic magnitude under GEJ. For the first time in Nigeria's history, there was a constant economic boom with oil prices averaging at $100/barrel, yet this was the same time when our foreign reserves were falling uncontrollably, external debts were increasing astronomically, oil bunkering activities exploded to an average of 400,000 barrels/day ($40million/day), the Naira was devalued (in just a month of oil price drop) and the number of private jets in the country multiplied by over 1000% (even common touts are now acquiring jets).

For the first time in our history, we started hearing of looted treasuries in the rank of billions of DOLLARS (not Naira). As at 2007, OBJ paid N188bn for fuel subsidies but in 2011, GEJ coughed out N2.13Trillion on the same subsidy and yet you are asking why we are picking on Jonathan or why Jonathan's case is different from his predecessors??... All these rubbish happened not because Jonathan is a thief but rather because he was too weak and clueless on how to prevent or punish his friends (and enemies alike) whom were the perpetrators. Instead of cautioning or preventing the lootomania, GEJ kept trying to defend the glaring madness and he kept denying that nothing was wrong. I usually pitied Jonathan then because it was clear the heat of the seat of the president was too hot for him to handle but I knew Jonathan was a shameless evil man when he declared to re-contest in 2015, knowing fully well that he was incapable and incompetent; that was when I knew Jonathan himself was also as self-serving as the rest of our leaders. My bigger problem however isn't even with GEJ but rather his supporters who are ordinary suffering Nigerians who see all these things but are not even bothered at all and would rather have him kill us all because they hate the TRIBE of his opponent.

Regarding the PIB, what stopped GEJ from pushing for it?... Does a Nigeri-Delta president automatically mean PIB?... We had a Niger-Delta vice president for 3 years and a Niger-Delta president for over 5 years but still, nothing was done about the PIB. The moneys which Jonathan used to bribe chiefs and pastors all over Nigeria last month alone could have been more than enough to induce the lawmakers opposed to the PIB. Goodluck was just a personification for failure!... Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish!

dbestuncle:
Its nice that u responded with so much maturity and u did ur best to pick my issues 1 by 1. Nigerians ar very intelligent n i am not surprise. U win because i also already agrees that there have alwaz been issues with the account of NNPC and the lack of competence on the part of the President, Goodluck Jonathan to tackle issues of corruption properly. Thanks 4 ur time n enlightenment.

Thanks for your understanding and my sincerest apologies if I came out as rude or insulting in my response.

MrIncrediible:
and some people wanted this to continue??

They say it is the will of God for the senseless waste to continue (because it has always been our culture)... and then I ask, which God?

chigaemezuogu:
Inec colided with imo state govenment to rig election in favour of APC, That produced the emergence of gov. Okorocha as winner of 2015 gubernatorial poll ought to be scruntinised even when it was sham the electoral umpires went ahead and declared the wrong person winner

Show evidence of what you are saying instead of ranting like a drunk person in the market square.

I can personally show you evidence of PDP conniving with INEC to steal the mandate of Imo people but Almighty God is bigger than them. This year 2015 is the year of deliverance of NIgeria from the bad governance of PDP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6XiWeBSd1c

DInvertedHammer:
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The presidents of Russia, China, France, Japan and even German Chancellor Merkel no dey blow grammar for oyibo. Na their economic policies which make them superpowers dey speak for them.

So...get your.head off your slave mentality a#ss.
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Naaa... the president of russia will speak russian and have an interpreter... likewise the chinese, japanese, french or German chancellor.

The difference is that Buhari would be speaking english without an interpreter, and I can assure you it will be hell for foreign audience (even local audience) to grab what he's saying. It only took me until just recently to start understanding GMB's speeches.

I am 101% in support of the candidacy of Mila as the Speaker. Nigeria needs to for once just drop the whole zoning nonsense and support intelligent and upright people into leadership positions.

This man has been the House of Reps minority leader for a long time and has been doing a really good job at it. It would be unfortunate if the long time minority leader's party finally becomes the majority, and then the minority leader is pushed aside for the sake of zoning.

He should consider lobbying the PDP reps

Op, you should start by learning to place your applications in the right box... I can't understand why you have placed this in the Nairaland Politics section

chukwudi44:
Hon Ndudi Elumelu probe panel indicted former President Obasanjo and others in a $16B power scam and since then nothing have been heard about the case. Since the almighty Buhari is said to be incorruptible and does not look at faces, it is worthwhile to suggest he takes another look at this panels report. Of late the media has been awash with news about the $20bilion subsidy scam, while corruption is condemnable selective probing is worse.

If Mr clean wants to probe he should aslo extend the probe to this panel report and the Pius Okigbo panel report on the $12billion gulf war oil windfall.Anything other than this would be resisted by the great people of the lower Niger congress

Every individual or institution has a limit to which he can do at a time, hence the need for prioritisation.

You cannot expect Buhari to carry out all the probes in this world instantly all because you want him to... Attempting that would be counterproductive and impractical. He needs to prioritise and take them one after the other. The $20bn NNPC scam is the most recent and also the largest so far in Nigeria's history and Buhari has prioritised it as the first to be looked into. Simple!!!

I am 101% in support of the candidacy of Mila as the Speaker. Nigeria needs to for once just drop the whole zoning nonsense and support intelligent and upright people into leadership positions.

This man has been the House of Reps minority leader for a long time and has been doing a really good job at it. It would be unfortunate if the long time minority leader's party finally becomes the majority, and then the minority leader is pushed aside for the sake of zoning.

He should consider lobbying the PDP reps

Sometimes I wonder how some of these foreigners manage to hear or understand what the General is saying though

Oluwaplumpie:
U should, like him or not, there's some validity in what he wrote. Keyword: some.

Femi is renown for writing absolute rubbish, I don't think he deserves my attention. Wasn't it the same Femi who in his first write-up after the election accused APC of conniving with Jega to make sure that voters in the SS and SE didnt get their PVCs but voters in the north all got theirs. Femi made this silly baseless statement strictly to arouse emotions even when it was common knowledge that several SS/SE states got over 95% PVC collection against a state like Kano which got only ~80% PVC.

So please tell me, why should any reasonable person take Femi seriously?

deletrue:
That means if pdp had not corrected this unpopular policy, apc would have ride on abi. Ok. It also means that some section of apc can comfortably be describe as the indesciple section. This section only knows how to dish unpopular policies and wait until pdp takes corrective accusation, and within minutes, apc will realise that its unpopular section has made a blunder and reverse it abi. You guys are all disappointments and scampers.

Nobody or organisation is without error, but maturity and uprightness is adjudged by the ability to handle criticism and take corrective actions as quickly as possible.

Forget the fact that I hailed PDP for being responsible for this reversal, PDP had absolutely nothing to do with it but I was only just trying to patronise PDP. The reversal of this policy was strictly an APC affair, the PDP never even gave a statement (official or unofficial) regarding this matter until this afternoon after APC had already reversed the order. APC corrected itself even before PDP got to hear about it. So please do not attempt to compare an ant with an elephant cos in terms of sophistication and approach, APC murders PDP.

deletrue:
Exactly. It is a very shameful act especially on side of apc by commiting high degree blunder. This shows that Nigerians must be very ready to face these acts of misbehaviours and child-like apc government. My happiness is that pdp is ever ready to teach these premature apc members. Any foolish act or unnecessary or indesciple acts must be reversed immediately.

Did you just call APC childish?... APC has just set a very commendable lesson by listening to popular opinion and instantly reversing an unpopular decision.

APC supporters have also exhibited exceptional maturity and patriotism by also criticising the unpopular policy and the APC leadership in its maturity swiftly had to listen to the voice of reason. Not long ago, if this were to be a PDP gaffe, the PDPians and GEJites would have been all over the place defending GEJ (even b4 they read about what the issue is); they would have been all over the place screaming "APC PROPAGANDA" even though common sense says otherwise.

mashnino:
una go tire to dey oppose...

Una don leave that office for good ooo...

Una and presidency?...just forget am

Who be una?

XBLadez:
You call Buhari to order? How long will your witchcraft party have to do that, control your president like a donkey? All of una don enter one chance

It is simply called a democracy, not the demo-CRAZY which PDP practised that made GEJ supporters to foolishly support and defend unforgivable gaffes. This is a pointer to the fact that more reasonable and mentally sound humans are beginning to take over Nigerian leadership. To God be the Glory!

I did not expect you PDPians to comprehend this simple example of civilisation; I'm not surprised that within the limits of your wisdom, your brain has automatically interpreted this action as "controlling the president"

millionaireman:
BUHARI, START FIGHTING CORRUPTION BY REMOVING THE NAME OF SANI ABACHA FROM THE KANO CITY STADIUM NAMED SANI ABACHA STADIUM. ABACHA WAS COPIOUSLY CORRUPT.

BUT BUHARI WILL NEVER DO THIS, INSTEAD HE WILL CONVINCE FOOLISH PEOPLE THAT HE IS AN ANTI-CORRUPTION CZAR.

A case of missing $20bn is presently on but some individuals think the biggest priority should be to change the name of an old stadium in Kano. Sometimes I feel ashamed being from the same country as certain individuals.

Simitrendy:
One thing I don't like about APC is that they know they are corrupt set of people and they keep on shouting GEJ is corrupt why not look at urslf before judging PDP I pray that Our incoming President will battle corruption IJN I wish u well in office Sir

The number 1 man in the APC government is not corrupt.
The number 2 man in the APC government is not corrupt.
The number 1 man (and probably the number 2 man) in the APC government will not be afraid to look the plunderers of our nation a.k.a. 'The cabal' in the eyes and step on their toes, neither will he be defending them or denying that these devils exist (just like Jonathan does).

These are the 3 main things which differentiates the APC from the PDP government. If you are waiting for a time when a political party will be comprised of only saints, then you are deceiving yourself, that time will never come in a million years; even developed countries don't have that luxury. However the only possibility is having a corrupt free head (whose principles would trickle down to all his subordinates if he's a strong man), but the organisation will always be made up of the good, the bad and ugly.

Femi Aribisala again?... Who always gives this man the privilege of the Nairaland front page?... I can't bother reading this man's opinion.

stronger:
Indeed. This was not even a straight out "wrong" case because you could argue that he is well within his right to do it, until he is president.

However, many of his supporters even condemned it. This is good unlike those dark days when GEJite TANoids would defend EVERY DUMB ACTION!!!

Absolutely!

This is just a case of APC responding swiftly to an unpopular move. Here lies the difference between APC and PDP; even the vocal supporters of APC condemned the move instantly and the APC as a party had to instantly call Buhari to order. Unlike the GEJites who had a malu malu following for GEJ and blindly defended every single dumb move of his. The time I knew GEJites were irredeemable was when they defended and celebrated the move to appoint Obanikoro a minister last month.

QuotaSystem:
Did PDP say anything about the issue? Nothing cos it's dead!

Truth is that it was ordinary concerned Nigerians that criticised the move. PDP is still busy licking its wounds and engaging in last minute looting. However, I was only trying to act like Jonathan supporters who assumed that anyone who criticised any move by GEJ back then (including foreigners) MUST automatically be APC.

PDP has just scored its first democratic point as the new opposition, forcing the soon-to-be ruling party to reverse an unpopular decision through firm criticism.

3 Gbosaaa!!!

dbestuncle:
in my opinion, what Sanusi did is wrong. Sanusi spent 5 years in the office and we (Nigerians) all know that something was always and has been having issues with Accountanbility. Infact i believe it was the problem with the oil department in the Nation that neccessitates the fuel subsidy removal. Alot of rottenness is in that sector and they all ar aware of it. Now my problem with Sanusi is that:
1. He claime to b bold yet did not tell Nigerians what he knows about the fuel subsidy scam or do u think the CBN Governor does not know anything about the subsidy?
2. He claime to b an honest and transparent man yet all his account balanced every year and only the year of his departure from office is when he discovered 20billion missing.
3. What exact amount is the missing sum, our dear former CBN Governor should tell us because i remember figures were changing. $49.8billion, $12billion, $10.8 billion. $20billion.
4. The sum seem an exergerated figure.
5. I personally think that if Sanusi had issues with the President and believes the best way to show Nigerians he is a pious man is by exposing issues that even he was part of in the past and also tell Nigerian his boss is bad and arosing hatred 4 the president n sentiments 4 himsef should remember that what goes around alwaz comes around.

If 20billion was missing in his final year as CBN Governor then what was missing in the first year and why didnt we hear it because i know and believe money missing has always been that administration. He failed Nigerians too and he should admit that.

I am sick and tired of Nigerians playing dumb on this matter... Sanusi's side of the story has been explained several times on this forum and elsewhere, I do not understand why there are still Nigerians out there who still think Sanusi is the villain in this issue. I will try and respond to your list one by one:
1. He claime to b bold yet did not tell Nigerians what he knows about the fuel subsidy scam or do u think the CBN Governor does not know anything about the subsidy?To correct your awful misconception, Sanusi was the very first person who raised the alarm about the fuel subsidy scam but since the president wasn't willing to go after the cabal, Sanusi had to advise the president to completely remove the subsidy. There are over 1000 reports and youtube videos showing Sanusi calling for the removal of fuel subsidy because the fuel import cabal was defrauding the nation. You seem to be the only one who didn't see these. Good Morning!
https://www.nairaland.com/459050/sanusi-seeks-removal-fuel-subsidy
http://www.bellanaija.com/2012/04/16/cbn-governor-lamido-sanusi-advocates-for-complete-removal-of-fuel-subsidy-do-you-agree-with-him/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16416861

2. He claime to b an honest and transparent man yet all his account balanced every year and only the year of his departure from office is when he discovered 20billion missing.To correct another awful misconception of yours, Sanusi confidentially raised the issue of the fraud going on in NNPC several times to the president. Sanusi wrote several confidential letters to the president informing him of the scams and calling on GEJ to investigate but GEJ in his usual manner ignored until one of the confidential letters was leaked to the public in late 2013 by God knows who. The matter became a scandal only in 2013 after the letter was leaked, but there were several letters which preceded the leaked one. Kindly go and read about the scandal before you make such a comment again in public.

3. What exact amount is the missing sum, our dear former CBN Governor should tell us because i remember figures were changing. $49.8billion, $12billion, $10.8 billion. $20billion. This is the most annoying and disgusting question which keeps recurring over and over again even after all the explanations. How can Sanusi know the exact amount missing when NNPC refused to submit their papers?... From his calculations, $49bn was unnaccounted for, several pleas to NNPC to explain this fell on deaf ears until the scandal hit the public. NNPC was then forced to reluctantly submit the papers which Sanusi had begged for for a long time. On receipt of the papers, the figure was reviewed down to $10bn (even Okonjo Iweala had a $10.8bn figure). On receipt of further papers from NNPC, the figure was recalculated again to be up to $20bn. As far as common sense is concerned, nobody on earth knows the real amount. Even PWC in their audit reported several unnaccounted figures and even PWC couldnt come up with any clear figures because the same NNPC refused to cooperate.

I know after all these my labour in explaining this, someone would still make this same comment of "Sanusi changing figures" again

4. The sum seem an exergerated figure.
Sanusi is an international award winning banker and economist and wouldn't just wake up one day to speak rubbish, go and read about the man. Wait until a proper audit is done before you conclude on anything. It beats me how Nigerians are raped by their leaders yet they end up being the ones defending the devilish leaders.


5. I personally think that if Sanusi had issues with the President and believes the best way to show Nigerians he is a pious man is by exposing issues that even he was part of in the past and also tell Nigerian his boss is bad and arosing hatred 4 the president n sentiments 4 himsef should remember that what goes around alwaz comes around.
Can you please just shut up and think. Sanusi made several attempts to confidentially complain to Jonathan about what was going on in NNPC but Jonathan did nothing until the info leaked. As far as this case is concerned, Jonathan was the one who gave himself a bad name with this mess. On the first day of the scandal, Jonathan should have just set up an investigative committee to probe the allegations of Sanusi and if he did that, Jonathan would have remained a saint. But instead what did he do?... his first reaction was to sack Sanusi for speaking out (even when cajoled to keep quiet). May God punish all the thieves and supporters of the evil going on in Nigeria.

If 20billion was missing in his final year as CBN Governor then what was missing in the first year and why didnt we hear it because i know and believe money missing has always been that administration. He failed Nigerians too and he should admit that.
You heard it in the last year because Sanusi did not want to give his boss a bad name hence he kept meeting Jonathan in secret to complain about the fraud for several years until the info on the scam was leaked to the public in the last year. Sanusi did not fail Nigerians at all!... Rather it was Jonathan who failed NIgerians by taking sides with the evil cabal against Nigerians and sacking people like Sanusi who chose to speak out.

What I do not understand is why the love for Jonathan has made a lot of Nigerians so so blind to these simple things.... But to God be the Glory, God can never be mocked... God has just delivered Nigeria from the incompetent hands of Jonathan whom out of fear will rather punish 170million Nigerians instead of punishing a few cabal members. I am sure with time, the log in the eyes of the remaining Jonathan worshippers would fall off

tlops:
Actually, I have not seen or read the report. any links yet on NL?

http://premiumtimesng.com/docs_download/Full%20report--20billion%20dollars%20missing%20oil%20money.pdf

tlops:
I think the motive is not to prove Sanusi right or wrong! You before the whistle blowing nobody new anything about the dealings in NNPC. After the President GEJ's probe 1.4billion USD was discovered missing. The issue is if there was no $20 billion accusation there would not have been a $1.4 billion discovery. So Sanusi may have over estimated the missing fund, but the truth is that there was missing fund, which would not have come to light without Sanusi.

Actually, the PWC report also identified and illegal over $9bn spending by NNPC but NNpC claims this money was spent on kerosene subsidy which was never included in the national budget nor approved by the NASS.

With just this little info, Sanusi is already right about $1.4 bn + $9bn