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elnino83:
@op your English and pronunciation is terrible , always post your video without explaining what the video is about .. it’s annoying cos the video is self explanatory

I swear I thought I was the only one that that introduction irritates.

Bomboiy:
And who told you we care about PDP?

If you are so worried about APC winning then you should gather your fellow PDP supporters to vote for Labour party because we will not go back to the north after 8yrs of Buhari.

I wonder oo... If the fellow who opened this thread really cared so much about kicking APC out, why doesnt he gather his PDP comrades to vote Obi?

Fuckingmallam45:
Imagine back then, if Soludo were to contest for the position of president, just like present Obi, the whole social medias would have tried to portray him as a saint for us, and we might definitely believe them, just see what is happening now. Is Soludo not young? Is Soludo not educated? Is Soludo not vibrant?
Politics is more than all these aforementioned, people that are supporting Obi should think it well, what if he happened not to be the Messiah they all hope for? But anyway, as for Soludo, he might definitely have a good reason for doing that. I pray such a reason to yield positively and be a welcome development.

In response to the bolded, no one truly knows if Obi will be messiah; but given this uncertainty, could the true messiah be Atiku or Tinubu?

The people going for Obi are just placing their bets on Obi over the others.

Apparently Tinubu supporters are doing a good job at ensuring that Peter Obi has a ton of negative comments which neutralise his net positive comments. Likewise, Peter Obi supporters are ensuring Tinubu has more than a sufficient share of negative comments. At the end of the day, no one is talking of Atiku (besides his own supporters givving positive comments); so it makes sense if Atiku is currently leading in terms of the 'net' positive comments.

Even though Reno is a he-goat, the petition is just stupid. What Sowore said is the truth, this is pure cyber bullying by a mob of illiterate fanatics.

May this silly online mob not end up demarketing Obi before 2023!

richie240:
here we go again

"Feigning ignorance" of what specifically?
You've refused to address any of the questions I threw at ur feet.

Lolz.....
Even d op dt woke up early this morning to create a false-hood of a thread don collect hin 'L' jejely, u still dey dia dey form king-kong!
C'mon taaa dia!

Oga I don agree with you say that niggee na Obi pikin. Why you still dey worry yourself?

1stGenAmerican:
The doctor confidently lodged the claim that he was underage and you can be sure the doctor backed it with genetic testing. His true age has yet to be revealed by anyone but paidNigerian media outlets. The fraudulent passport listed his age as 41 and no one, not even the senator’s lawyer, has been able to debunk that claim.

Lol...

1stGenAmerican:
The boy never claimed he was 15, the doctors who alerted the authorities did. His age, though not a driving factor, has yet to be disproven and no credible news coming out of the UK has reported that.
If there was a victory in this case, the suspects wouldn’t be still rotting in jail. Whatever happened in court today was enough to keep them in custody.

Lol.. Are you listening to yourself? That the doctors and not the boy are the ones who claimed he's 15? So a white doctor just sees a boy and just assigns an age to him?

Indeed, what 'hate' cannot do to the rationality of humans does not exist!

richie240:
There goes the ipobic spirit: insults and curses;
Perhaps if u had addressed d questions and observations I made instead of rigmarolling....it would go a long way in having a diplomatic dialogue devoid of insults and fist-throwing.

I'm still open to dialogue with you though!

It's pointless arguing with a madman; but you know what's even worse? Arguing with a person who's feigning ignorance (i.e. you). It's a pointless waste of time so yeah, I wouldn't be doing that. Good day!

lexy2014:
How is that? Pls explain

The boy claiming to be a 15 year old minor was the first red flag which got the authorities interested in the case. With that 'minor' claim proven to be false, it's the first victory for the Ekweremadus. Let's watch and seee how the case goes; no need for long arguments. My bet is that the Ekweremadus will eventually be let off the hook.

richie240:
Errmm....bia nwokem, its not that I didn't see gidgíddy's post or that he made much sense with his postulations o, I purposely chose to press d 'ignore' button. He's a confirmed ipob of which u r aware of and its a waste of time having a dialogue with him. I've never seen him find ipob capable in any crime, so it would be an effort in futility responding to him. Perhaps if he had quoted me using one of his alternate monikers I would've budged.

Now back to u, I laid bare some questions/observations which u haven't responded to. Perhaps u may take d gauntlet!

Daalu!

Your argument is like that of a person without a brain; however, I know you aren't brainless. You're just deliberately trying to sound dumb in a desperate bid to sustain the dead and ignorant argument that the fellow in that picture is Obi's son. Given the circumstances, engaging further with you is pointless and a waste of precious time. Hence why I said, "you win!"

The hatred people have for Ekweremadu has just blocked their sense of reasoning. So many people in this thread rejoicing that he will be spending many years in jail; they obviously fail to see the real picture being that he just won the first hurdle in the case. The boy lying about being a minor already rubbishes the entire case in Ekweremadus favour.

gidgiddy:
So you actually dont believe that a protester can back away from a protest group and take a seperate individual picture?

Or you would rather believe that within 2 days this story broke, Peter Obi managed to get someone in Germany who has deadlocks, dress him in the same exact attire, take pictures on a similar road, just to deflect accusations from his son?

Thats not possible

I posted the 3 pictures below side by side; but somehow the fellow you quoted strongly believes that the person on the flag is Obi's son while the other 2 pictures are of a totally different person taken on a different day, with exactly the same stature, same outfit, same shoe and same location.

A funny fact of life is that the most difficult person to wake is the person who's faking his sleep; you cannot educate a person who desperately and forcefully wants to remain dumb.

richie240:
**Just when one thot u were different from d average ipob**

"Standing by the side ko, sitting by d bridge ni"
1. The pictures d op posted showed nearly 180° of d perspective yet not a single 'plotester' was seen unlike d one showing the boy standing on d flag.

2. The colors of d sides of the cars are different, which clearly shows dt d cars are different. The original picture had green while d fake had a blue.
Don't tell us the reflection of d sun made d colors change o,, ehn-ehn.

3. If d boy in d original picture wasn't Gregory obi, why should u lots go all d way to replicate an 'adulterated' copy of d scene? Ehn? Maka why?




Una nor go kee person with comedy.
Ipobs?
Hian!

No further statements. He is Obi's son, you win!

richie240:
You still don't gerrit,
1. The op is trying to tell us that the boy in his pwn pictures is d same person as d one stepping on d flag. Poser: are they the same?

2. The op is saying that the pictures he posted and d one showing the boy standing on d flag were taken on d same day. Poser: where were the other protesters? They all took a break when the pictures were being taken right?

1. Go back and read my last post; I just modified it.

2. Obviously the protesters were standing by the side of the road (to the right of the fellow standing on the flag). You obviously can't see them in the second pictures because of the camera angle (in the second picture, the camera was facing the road). Anybody with a functional brain already can figure this out, but the only reason I've taken the pain to explain this to you is because I understand not everyone out there has a functional brain.

Good day!

richie240:
'Temper', 'Temper'!
You haven't addressed d points I raised in d post nah!
Just in case.......
vvvv

Put holes in what i said ^^^ and Let's leave name-calling and insults for ipob biko,

So you agree the boy in the picture posted here by the Op isnt Obi's son but you believe the one behind a face mask stepping on the flag is Obi's son?

The guy in the picture posted by the Op and the guy standing on the Nigerian flag wear exactly the same outfit, same trouser, same shirt, exactly the same shoe, has exactly the same key/ID strap hanging from his belt, stands on a similar road with similar road markings, trees in the background look exactly the same etc. But for some reason, even with all visual evidence, you do not believe they are the same person. But somehow, without any single shred of evidence or resemblance whatsoever, you believe the person standing on the flag is same as Obi's son?

Put holes in what i said ^^^ and Let's leave name-calling and insults for ipob biko

No I wasn't insulting you (at least not yet); I was only insulting the idiots who sit in their homes and concoct these stupid lies and propaganda simply cos their brains are too useless to think of any other strategy to win elections besides 'pull-him-down' propaganda.

For your own case, I don't think any insult I can bring up will be suitable for you for believing and spreading nonsense even though you know it's false.

richie240:
My gye, there is no doubt that d gye in the pictures shown by d op in this thread is NOT obi's pikin.
The bone of contention is d gentleman who desecrated d Nigerian flag by stepping on it, OK?


1. Were the pictures shown by d op taken on d same day as that of d boy stepping on d flag?

2. The op showed close to 4 different pictures of someone wearing a similar outfit but NONE showed the other protesters.

3. Does d fact that d boy in d pictures shown by d op is dread-locked and wearing a similar attire and standing in front of a polizé mean that they are d same person?

4. The fact that d op has gone D's far to replicate d implicating photo shows that he's trying to be clever by half, and that there is a form of truth to d original story!

The op's effort is a damage control attempt at its best!

I said what I said! Only idiots believed that that fellow in that picture was Obi's son.

Without any single shred of evidence or even any form of resemblance, someone just tells you a masked man is Obi's son, and without any questions, you just swallowed it because you hate Obi? Like I said, it only takes an idiot to swallow shit simply because it fits the narrative of his prejudice against another.

Only idiots believed that that was Obi's son in the first place.

The much bigger idiots are the ones who even after this exposition, will still continue spreading the propaganda that the person in the picture is Obi's son (so many retards exist in this latter category).

Low IQ'd scoundrels sit in their homes and keep concocting falsehoods because their undeveloped brains tell them propaganda is the only way to win elections. Sell your candidate, NO! Advertise your manifestos, NO! but they spend the entire election period concocting stupid propaganda to pull others down.

Attack lasted for 2hours 45 minutes and not a single reasonable response from security forces? If this is true, then the highest authorities were definitely in on it.

zionstaar75:
because we are in a military regime abi?how many senators does labour party have or candidates that will ease the passage of his bills in the house?u guys are just being emotional,the minimum time it can take obi to win presidency(if he ever will is 4years)I laugh at the hopelessness of this myopic aspiration,my own is if anyone speaks about Biafra after election. They should be executed straight!

Oga, not everything a president does requires a 'bill'. Continue to let useless incompetent leaders deceive you with excuses that the NASS is the reason they arent performing.

Officialgarri:
No matter how hurting it is for the nation's wealth, fuel subsidy is one of the few ways that the government is directly giving back to the people.

I still don't know how we were cajoled to protest against fuel subsidy in 2012 (perhaps except for the looting)

What do I mean? Take a look at the price of our deregulated diesel flying high at #810, 850 and above and see the harsh effect on food prices and cost of long journeys.

If Peter Obi has an alternative to fuel subsidy that the world doesn't know of, he should hint us. It would be disappointing to ride to victory using lies

With the right knowledge, skills, experience and wisdom, a president with the political will can bypass the useless administrative bureaucracies which bof down projects in Nigeria and build a brand new refinery in under 4 years. In addition, the existing refineres can also be revamped in under a year to at least supply up to 30% of Nigeria's fuel demand.

If Nigeria can cut it's petroleum products' import by half, the Naira will be strengthened beyond measure, and this can result in a drop in pump prices. So yeah, with a serious and competent president, fuel subsidy can be removed without Nigerians having to pay through their noses. At N162 per litre of petrol, the only reason we still pay subsidy is cos of the deplorable exchange rate.

Okobola146:
see joblessness, go get a job and get busy jo

Seems like your brain is paining you. Did I tell you I didnt have a job?...

Okobola146:
unvague it now, Professor sabi sabi

Unvague what exactly? What you posted was vague; i.e. it didnt exactly make any sense, and you didnt care to even explain your point or your grievance.

But now you ask me to "unvague it"? Am I supposed to be in your head to know what you thinking?

Okobola146:
See what schools are turning into. Our problems are deep-seated, beyond politics.

What are the schools turning into? Your message is vague.

SugarGirl44:
Of course not.
But at the same time you can't hold people down against their wish.

What has this holding down got to do with burning public property? Isnt that just foolishness?

SugarGirl44:
Self actualization has never been a crime.
Biafra people have a right to it, so as the other nations in this forced marriage.
Shame on Unity beggers.

Right to burn public properties?

TooNoisy:
So as usual, one relatively young Peter Obi supporters came to ask me to become Obidient. He mentioned that PDP was the same with APC and we cannot vote both of them. He went on to say Atiku and Tinubu were too old and both don't mean well. The usual story. So I reminded him that he asked me to vote for Atiku in 2019, so I wanted to know what has changed. He went on the repeat the same things he started with and he mentioned Obi was the only one who could save Nigeria. So I asked three questions.

1. What if Atiku/Obi had won in 2019. Would he still be saying the same thing. So if Atiku/Obi ticket which he was pushing won in 2019, would he still be calling Atiku a thief and Obi a saint? His only response was that, we thank God that did not happen. So I asked him if he was wrong for pushing the Atiku/Obi ticket in 2019 and he had no answer.

2. I asked him if APC and PDP are that terrible, why should I vote for a man who has been in PDP for the past 7 years and only left a month ago. This same man was PDP vice presidential candidate when Atiku was sharing dollars in 2019 and he still wanted to be president under PDP up until one month ago when he realised he couldn't win. Again, he had no answer.

3. I asked him if Peter Obi miraculously won the election, and the NASS was controlled by APC or PDP. What does he think will happen next? It will be very clear Peter Obi wouldn't get anything done because he will have a very antagonistic NASS. Labour Party does not have candidates in 80% of the NASS positions and will barely get any senators or reps. So if the NASS is controlled by APC/PDP, then Peter Obi will either get impeached or join the APC./PDP. Labour Party has no structure, no representation, it is a one man show. Peter Obi will probably decamp again to PDP or else get impeached. Again he had no answer.

So he agreed to get back to me when he had the answers to these three questions. May be some Peter Obi supporters on Nairaland have answers to these three questions. Lets wait and see.

Seun, Lalasticlala, Mynd44

The answers to your questions are very simple...

1. What if Atiku/Obi had won in 2019. Would he still be saying the same thing. So if Atiku/Obi ticket which he was pushing won in 2019, would he still be calling Atiku a thief and Obi a saint?

Atiku still remains a thief; that fact hasn't changed to date. The reason most people overlooked his tainted record and supported him in 2019 was because he stood tall as a better alternative to the main contender and president at the time Buhari. Elections are a game of choice between 2 or more people; when the electorate is faced with 2 or more bad choices, they go with who they perceive as a lesser evil (which is what Atiku was in 2019). But in 2023, with Mr Obi now in the race, Atiku no longer stands as the lesser evil. Your boy did no wrong by selling Atiku in 2019 and switching to an even lesser evil in 2023.

2. I asked him if APC and PDP are that terrible, why should I vote for a man who has been in PDP for the past 7 years and only left a month ago. This same man was PDP vice presidential candidate when Atiku was sharing dollars in 2019 and he still wanted to be president under PDP up until one month ago when he realised he couldn't win. Again, he had no answer.

Anyone who understands Nigeria's political space knows that both APC and PDP, and even Labour party are all the same. Nigeria's democracy isnt mature enough to accommodate independent candidates so for a good and credible candidate to run for office, he/she still needs a political vehicle and has no choice than to settle for one of the already polluted parties.

Given these circumstances, the only thing that matters and should be focused upon is the pedigree/reputation/credibility of the candidate themselves, and not the party (except of course we just want to deceive ourselves). The very fact that Mr Obi bluntly refused to be a party to the corrupt dollar bazaar in PDP, and even took a bold step to leave a most promising platform to go into the wilderness, that already speaks volumes on his credibility.

3. I asked him if Peter Obi miraculously won the election, and the NASS was controlled by APC or PDP. What does he think will happen next? It will be very clear Peter Obi wouldn't get anything done because he will have a very antagonistic NASS. Labour Party does not have candidates in 80% of the NASS positions and will barely get any senators or reps. So if the NASS is controlled by APC/PDP, then Peter Obi will either get impeached or join the APC./PDP. Labour Party has no structure, no representation, it is a one man show. Peter Obi will probably decamp again to PDP or else get impeached. Again he had no answer.

Let him win the election first! Then Nigerians will get to understand that the the greatest structure is the PEOPLE; if the masses can be behind a leader, that is the strongest structure any leader can ever have. If Obi as president wants to do something which the people genuinely adjudge to be good, as long as the PEOPLE are behind him, the NASS would be too scared to stand against him.

Now this isnt just some theoretical hypothesis crap, this is something Mr Obi has clearly experienced before and is currently experienced in handling. Mr Obi was impeached twice as governor for refusing to share money to party and house of assembly members. But guess what? Each time the PEOPLE stood by him, he came back stronger.

And should he choose in the future to decamp to whatever party he chooses, that to me (and to every enlightened Nigerian who understands our political space) does not define the man.

Anonymoususher:
For the first time in the history of Nigeria, youths are more politically aware and are taking it upon themselves to campaign for their preferred candidates free of charge.

Obidience movement is gaining momentum by the day.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf5YDp5K348

This is quite commendable; this is a real tirn around from the norm.

What really makes this episode stand out is that the thousands of youths running these campaigns are doing so without any payment whatsoever and without any hope of ever being paid for their efforts. I can't say this for campaigners of the 2 big parties.

In 2023, may Nigeria be visited by that change which we thought was going to happen in 2015. Amen!