₦airaland Forum

Moh247:
The only reason why Nigeria is the richest country interms of resources but poorest in terms of human development index is because of low thinkers that foolishly reason based on emotions


How will a 3rd class Philosophy Graduate of Nsuka, without a single completed projects in Anambra for 8 years, who never conducted LGA election but stole the allocation for 8 years , caught with 250 million cash, and also invested state allocation is his family business when doctors where on strike for 13 months be better than someone who built Lagos when Lagos was abandoned as old FCT



Truly many are very un intelligent and very gullible


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The fact that you harbour the belief that a man called Tinubu built Lagos already speaks volumes on the shallowness of your thought process and IQ.

Ojuntana:
Just shift abeg. Blind being led by the blind.

Blind people usually have a heightened sense of hearing; but the worst form of blindness is the type where the individual is deaf and blind. Your case unfortunately is irredeemable.

The Lekki deep seaport is a project conceptualised and initiated by the LASG. Whether they bring in investors from far and wide to see the project through, or whether the FG through NPA gets to eventually manage the port is inconsequential; someone owns the project and that someone is the LASG.

I see you talking about 'Exclusive List' as if you even know what it means. Airports are also under the exclusive list and airport operations are managed by FG agencies like FAAN, NCAA, NAHCO etc; but you'd simply be spewing blind ignorance if you go to the airports at Umuleri or Asaba or Uyo and claim those airports arent state government projects.

I'm not even sure why anyone would want to dispute or argue over this; probably driven by some silly tribal or political sentiments.

aribisala0:
It is neither a LASG nor FG project in terms of funding
The ownership of the project is over 50% China using the instrumentality of CHEC

Lagos state has equity based on the land it provided and the FG has equal equity with LASG
The concept is a LASG concept presumably

The project was conceptualised and initiated by the LASG. Whether they brought in 1 million investors to invest in the project is inconsequential; the project must belong to someone and in this case, the project is a Lagos state government project, period!

Ojuntana:
The seaport is being built by FG concessioned to a private consortium.
Lagos state is not building the seaport!

What sort of confident ignorance is this?

Several people have mentioned in this forum that this is a LASG project; even if a person chooses not to believe what they read on this forum, there are numerous verifiable sources on the internet where one could easily get info on things like this. But instead, some people just choose to glorify their ignorance.

No more words for you sir; YES, you're right,the Lekki deep sea port is being built by the FG, not LASG.

ElSudani:
You are straight up lying, this is a big problem with Obi and his supporters. He said in plain English, not lgbo that the $20 million dollars he invested in SAB miller was worth $100 million as at the time he gave the interview which I reckon to be about 4 years ago.
The investment today is worth only $5 million according to the company.
Obi was obviously lying about the value of the investment when he gave the interview.

One of the worst tragedies in life is an educated person who chooses to feign ignorance just because they desperately want to have an argument.

Go and read the report below which clarifies the actual figures. Obi invested in Naira, the sum of N1.96billion, and given the deplorable economic condition in the country in the last 7 years, that investment is currently worth N2.24billion.

https://www.thecable.ng/revealed-peter-obi-administrations-12-24m-investment-in-international-breweries-now-worth-5-38m/amp

With the actual figures now in the open, feel free to return and make further mockery of yourself with nonsense figures. You will be getting no further responses if you do that.

ElSudani:
What figure is fake? Peter Obi himself said it on Camera and the company recently came out to tell us how much the investment is now worth. There's nothing fake about this issue. He made a bad investment with public money, that is the issue not the exchange rate.

Feigning ignorance and dubiously cutting and joining different bits and pieces of info; but at the end you're only making a mockery of yourself.

Obi said $20m to almost $100m. Later this was disputed/corrected to actually be $12m which happens to be $5m now based on today's deplorable exchange rate. Even knowing fully well that the info had already been corrected, you somehow dubiously still picked out the $20m bit and pitched it with the $5m to sell a fraudulent narrative. Such lame attempt at being crafty can only appeal to illiterates. Welldone!

ElSudani:
Obi told us he invested $20 million dollars which we now know it's worth a paltry $5 million. He didn't even mention Naira in the video why are you trying hard so spin it and blame it on the Naira? Anambra people lost $15 million dollars, you may convert that to Naira or I can help you if you wish.

So because he didnt mention Naira in the video, you're not mature enough to run the basic arithmetic of conversion? I thought you were literate?

Ojuntana:
What does state leaders have to do with a sea port

Are state leaders not human? Dont they have financial autonomy? Dont they have uncome/revenue? Are state only meant to steal and eat money and then patch some bad roads?

Who do you think is building the Lekki deep sea port?

ElSudani:
You need to ask Peter Obi because he told us in his own words that he invested $20 million dollars of Anambra people's money.
Why are you telling me about Naira if the man himself told us he invested $20 million?

I thought you all said, and we all agreed, that the figures are fake? So why are you still grasping on to the fake figures? Actual figures were released and turned out to be $12m now $5m. And the reason being the disastrous crash in value of the Naira which isnt Obi's doing.

ElSudani:
$20 million dollars of Anambra state funds is today worth only $5 million dollars and this is success to you?

Oga save your weak and crafty analogy for dumb/ignorant people abeg. Kindly tell us the value in Naira too, and whilst at is, kindly also point out examples of companies within Nigeria whose value has not depreciated in dollar terms in the last 7 years?

ElSudani:
I was talking about the specific investment made by Peter Obi. He had a poor judgment because he lost public funds in a bad investment. Forget the crap about the exchange rate, if your $20 million dollars is now worth $5 million it means you failed.

Do we spend dollars in Nigeria? Was the investment made in dollars? Does it make sense to you calculating the profit and assessing the progress of a local food vendor or street orange seller in dollars?
Does it make any sense to you?

Since you insist you must calculate in dollars, is there any sound human in Nigeria that doesnt know the value of the NAIRA against the dollar has depreciated by over 75% in the last 7 years? Is Mr Obi responsible for that disastrous depreciation in value of the Naira?

With the crash of the Naira from N150/$ to N620/$, can you kindly mention one single company within Nigeria whose value has not depreciated in dollar terms in the last 7 years?

ElSudani:
How much was remitted to the state government since he invested public money in a company in which his family was a shareholder?
Did you know this a conflict of interest issue? Did you know this could be criminal as well?
Tinubu was investigated and exonerated by the EFCC, all the lies you folks are peddling against him will not stick.

Lol... Go and ask the accountant general of the state that question if you need specifics. It is a publicly know fact that the company is still thriving and successful, and it's shareholders havent come out any day to lament that they arent being paid. For every bottle of Trophy or Hero beer you see on bar tables across Nigeria, the shareholders of that company earn returns. Go figure!

Did you say efcc exonerated who? The same efcc we know that even lacks the capacity to send common yahoo boys to jail is the same efcc you want to send politicians with massive financial war chests to jail?

ElSudani:
What misrule? Many people became multi millionaires within that period of time. Many successful start ups within that time. I can mention at least 10 very successful startups within this time but your principal who is supposed to be a good manager invested $20 million of public funds that is now worth a paltry $5 million!
Is this how he will run Nigeria?

So because one or 2 startups thrived under such harsh and degenerative economic conditions, that automatically means the business environment was good?.... For every 1 new millionaire in the last 7 years, 1000 people fell off into poverty, and you think that's a record of success?

Again and again, the argument about $12million investment depreciating to $5 million is nothing but a lame attempt at slander purely meant to deceive illiterate, gullible and ignorant people. The fact of the matter is that that investment has actually grown in NAIRA terms; it's an investment within Nigeria which earns returns in Naira, so if you must assess its success, you must do so in NAIRA terms.

Lastly and very importantly, Mr Peter Obi is not responsible for the crash of the NAIRA from N150/$ at the time of investment to N620/$ which it is today. So any attempt at blaming Mr Obi for the f*ckups of this disaster of a govenment is just a laughable, dubious and divisive attempt at deceit. Culpability must be placed where culpability belongs (and we all know where that is).

ElSudani:
Are you kidding me? What he did was a breach of trust. You can't invest public money in a business in which your family is a shareholder. He would have been impeached or even sent to jail if he did that in other places, including China which he likes to mention.

Breach of which trust? He invested in a viable and thriving company which remits revenue to the state steadily even after he's left as a governor. Who cares if his family also has shares in the company? The company is a limited liability company and anyone, that includes you and I and his family members, have the right to own shares in the company too.

What you should be worried about is, is the company functional? Is the business viable? Is the company remitting dividends to the state?

Another thing you should worry about; in your honest opinion, is Mr Obi worse than the one who rather sold government/public properties to himself at giveaway prices? Also, is Obi worse than the other one who designed schemes through which he controls the resources and entire politics of a state even long after he's left office? Not to talk of forcing government businesses to pay royalties into his personal account steadily? Is Mr Obi worse than these peopl?

ElSudani:
The man who invested $20 million and the investment is now worth barely $5 million.
Not to talk of investing that money in a company in which your family has interest.
If he did that in most of the the countries he likes to reference, he will be sitting in jail right now not running for president.

Better to invest than to steal the money!

Meanwhile the money invested has grown in Naira terms; Mr Peter Obi isn't the one responsible for the bottomless crash of the Naira in the last 7 years (which is what made it look like the investment has depreciated). So its pointless to blame him for that.

And then again regarding the investment, who cares if his family has shares in the company he invested in? Are they not also citizens? That's even more reason he'd ensure the investment is viable, cos if the investment sinks, his family also loses. Besides, is the company not thriving? Is the company not remitting revenue to the state coffers?

He's definitely a better saint than the one who sold government properties to himself and the other one who forces government establishments to pay royalties to his personal account.

BloomingDale:
How far Warri, Calabar, PH, Akwa Ibom port? Una Mumu never do.

2023 is around the corner! Another election year is here again which presents another golden opportunity for people in those states you mentioned to vote in reasonable leaders for their states. But will they?

gaetano:
If you like bring details confirming his age is 21, it doesn't matter. As far as ekweremadu can't provide a signed agreement that the boy actually agreed with the medical procedure, it won't fly. I just want our politicians to suffer small. You can imagine the kind of bills that would have been passed to help improve our health sector by establishing such facility here but instead they loot and send their kids abroad. Wo, I want him to suffer and for the boy to find his way and enjoy his life over there.

No be everytime politicians dey run us street, make person sef run them

Your desire to see the politician suffer unfortunately isnt enough for the Uk authorities to turn logic and due process on its head. Ekweremmadu did not need any signed agreement with the boy; if the boy is confirmed a minor, then yes the parents may have needed to sign before permitting him travel with the Ekweremadus. But if the boy is proven not to be a minor, the written consent becomes useless.

As an adult, the boy had the right of refusal up until the point in the hospital when the doctors were to start the procedure. Except it can be proven that Ekweremmadu pinned him down or chained him to the bed against his will, or maybe they put a gun to the heads of his parents back in Nigeria, I'm not sure how it can be proven that the senator was ripping off his organ against his will or under duress.

maasoap:
So, your poison in all this is about 41 and
21 discrepancies, right? Should I tell you that you're being petty and try to downplay this criminal act of Ekweremadus?
And again, has dailymail told you (may be in your dream) that it was an error and retracted the report? Because I don't understand why you kept saying it is an error.

Learn to read and comprehend first before rushing to reply whatever you see online.

By the way, if dailymail publishes my age as 51, I don't need them to retract their statement to know that their figure is wrong. #CommonSense101

Omo e go hard die to sway northerners to vote anything which isn't their own...

maasoap:
Now, that sounded like a guilty party to me. Lol.
Copy: AkaraAndBread, obailala

Go back and read my last reply to you. Get off your emotional horse and use your brain untainted for once. I do not know if Ekweremadu is guilty or not. All I said was that the age on the passport was 21, and that the 41 figure reported by the tabloid was an error (mind you, even 21 still remains a crime if the boy is confirmed to be 15). If your brain still reads my figure correction as "defending Ekweremadu", then I'm sorry, I cant help your dyslexia. Good day!

maasoap:
What I don't understand is why you would even be supporting evil!
Ekweremadu involved themselves in kidnapping, trafficking and was about to get involved in organ harvest.

I said the 41year figure reported by dailymail.co.uk was an error; that the correct figure published by other sites (including with an evidence of the said passport) was 21 years. All I did was a basic clarification of a wrong figure; but how any mentally sound mind could interpret this simple correction to mean "he is defending Ekweremdu" still remains a mystery that ought to be studied by researchers.

You see why I said you sufferred from learning difficulties? Your brain is probably not developed enough to distinguish between your emotional urges and reality. Because of the prejudice (emotions) you feel against Ekweremadu, your brain for days has been incapable of basic comprehension - I knew it all along, but just kept repeating myself hoping you would miraculously snap out of your delusion! But there you go!

joyd200:
Then wait and see how the case unfold. Your politician sometimes are very dull. It's also possible they were advised by an agent who's been into such runs that if they have a document that show that age that the procedure will go smoothly.

But one big issue now is were they actually in possession of a passport with 41 years old as claimed by the doctor and UK police. If so that is a real thing they can't defend, particularly, if they obtaines that through the backdoor (forgery). Don't forget that immigration has come out to claim the boy is 21 years old based on his data on their profile

The 41 figure is an error by the blog which reported this, correct figure is 21

AkaraAndBread:
I have been monitoring your conversation with this maasoap guy and I must be very sincere with you...

"Guy, you dey try!"

How you manage to cope with his stupidity and rudeness combined is amazing. And you're still going at it, trying to explain something to a blockhead.

Omo, kudos to you Bro ...

Lol... Some people suffer from learning difficulty. So if you must explain anything to them, you need extreme patience.

maasoap:
They are in the know, I go with them. The trial will be in the UK, not in Nigeria with paid organisations.

You've been shown the boy's actual passport which states 21 years but no, a UK blog will know better because it's a UK blog... Okay no further comments.

maasoap:
Stop the long sermons, every piece of evidence will be presented in the court. But there is one or two things that you haven't seemed to have learnt:
One, never trust a Nigerian.
Two, never ever trust a Nigeria politician.
I go with the UK government, hospital, police and media.

Lol... I pointed out that the 41yrs reported by dailymail is an error (every other site reports 21, including an image of the boy's passport); but you say i shoukd trust UK government because dailymail is UK government right?

This one has become forceful ignorance. Have a nice day!

Why exactly does Kperoogi or any one else feel Tinubu owes them his WAEC certificate after he's already presented a Bachelor's degree to INEC? If they can't live without seeing his certificate, they can hug a wet transformer.

maasoap:
No! Because they are closer to the truth, they saw the passport which you and me didn't.

Lol.. They saw the passport? ...a UK tabloid called dailymail.co.uk saw the real passport of the boy which somehow states 41 years? Every other website stated 21 years but they must all be fake because a UK tabloid published 41?? Even Vanguard Nigeria which went the extra mile of publishing the actual image of the boy's passport is fake? Afterall they are NIgerians! Even the Nigerian immigration service too which gave a live statement confirming that the records they have of the boy shows he was born in Oct 2000; all of these other sources are fake because you saw 41 years on the website of an oyibo tabloid?? Of course oyibos cannot mix their figures because they are oyibo after all... Lol...

Just like they say, slavery ended a long time ago; but what we have today is mental slavery driven by inferiority complex. Oh yes! I agree with you; dailymail.co.uk has the boy's original passport. Everyone else is reporting rubbish.

maasoap:
Yes, it perfectly did. In fact, I would say that they were advised. 21 and 41 are clearly two adults on different levels.

Okay... feel free to seallow anything you see see simply because it's a foreign website.

maasoap:
That doesn't negate the fact that he was trafficked for organ harvest.
BTW: 21 is barely an adult, so they wouldn't expect UK authority to believe them that a 21 year old boy actually made that huge decision on his own.
But a 41 years old man, that's a perfect age that might not raise suspicion

In the eyes of the law, 21 and 41 are both adults, no distinction. So you're saying ekweremadu didnt want to raise suspicion so he put 41 years old as the age of that child?.. In your own view, does that make sense?

Timmi:
Take a look at the date of issue on this passport - November 2021. The passport and visa processed by the Ekwerenmadus was processed last year.

So Ekweremadu made a passport for that kid and wrote 1980 as his date of birth?

joyd200:
"Exploitation" is the term in the law that his crime will be trialed upon. So they have to go through a court process to determine if he actually wanted to exploit him or not. With he evidence on ground, what Ike and wife did is also exploitation

From my observation, they made two passports for the boy - one which shows the boy is 21 years old (which is most likely is real age) and the other passport which shows the boy is 41 years old (which was tendered in the hospital).

The whole process is criminal and exploitation.

21 and 41 ate both adults, why woykd anyone with a brain make a passport of 41 years old for that kid?