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PoliticsRe: A Very Dangerous Precedent Is Being Set In Nigeria, Be Warned! by Obiagu1(op): 4:53pm On Jul 16, 2012
This could take different forms. Either the settlers or the indigenous people could be the aggressors but what happens when the settlers get the upper hand in the fight? Will they be asked to vacate and abandon their properties and investments in favour of the indigenous people even if the indigenous people were the aggressors?

What happens when the indigenous people are the aggressors and have the upper hand in the fight, who will be asked to vacate?

We shouldn't start what we can't control.
PoliticsRe: A Very Dangerous Precedent Is Being Set In Nigeria, Be Warned! by Obiagu1(op):
With the quit notice to the Fulanis in certain communities by the STF, we are setting a very dangerous precedent that no one could control if it gets out of hand.
Firstly, it's against the constitution, secondly it could be exploited.
PoliticsA Very Dangerous Precedent Is Being Set In Nigeria, Be Warned! by Obiagu1(op):
The Special Task Force (STF) in Jos under the command of Maj-General Henry Ayoola yesterday issued an order of evacuation within 48 hrs to a number of Fulani dominated towns in Barikin Ladi and Riyom Local Government Areas for a military operation that will commence there, otherwise, their lives cannot be guaranteed. The STF statement read:

RESTRICTED

1. This is to inform the people residing in Barikin Ladi and Riyom Local Government Areas that a military operation is ongoing in the area. The inhabitants of Mahanga, Kakuruk, Kuzen, Maseh and Shong 2 are to evacuate immediately with their property within the next 48hrs.
2. Meanwhile, residents of Kura Falls, Kuzuk and Sharuk Rim of Gashish and Bachit districts respectively are enjoined not to panic and to be careful of their movement within the area and avoid places of military operation until further notice. People are enjoined to report any suspicious movement and activities in their areas.

3.You are please requested to use your medium to disseminate this information to the general pubic. It is to be announced routinely throughout the period of the operation in order to avoid any hazard to human lives and property.

Salisu Mustapha (Captain)
Media Information Officer
PoliticsRe: Cross River Loses Oil Producing Status –RMAFC by Obiagu1(m): 4:20pm On Jul 16, 2012
Raimond: Seriously...It's been done before, between Governors Attah and Duke....Just let Cross River keep some of the wells.
No political solution will last because a dissatisfied Governor will overturn it. It's only merger that could be permanent.
PoliticsRe: The Fulani Will Not Leave - Beginning Of The End? by Obiagu1(m): 4:11pm On Jul 16, 2012
Though some people will think that this is justifiable because it could stop the fighting in Plateau but, unfortunately, it will set a very dangerous precedence in Nigeria.
Let everyone be warned!
PoliticsRe: Cross River Loses Oil Producing Status –RMAFC by Obiagu1(m): 3:52pm On Jul 16, 2012
Raimond: This can be resolved amicably with a political solution between the two states...I don't want Betrani giving me a whupping anytime I hit Calabar for my fun tingz! grin grin
Which other political solution other than merger of the two states?
PoliticsRe: Cross River Loses Oil Producing Status –RMAFC by Obiagu1(m): 3:47pm On Jul 16, 2012
betrani: The efiks are the ones giving us this bad name! Where I come from; we re not as lazy as the are around here! we hate the "sit-tight and hands folded attitude" While they were busy calling us name; "ATAM" (meaning bush men) these criminals were busy stealing their belongins because they were comfortable right from day one! you can count the number of efiks in school! you can count the number of houses owned by the efiks! but we the atams as they call us came late but we are holding-out and strong in our strive to rule! nw their laziness has led them into pain!
You're just angry for nothing, the two states were one for years and it's normal for Akwa Ibomites to be present in Calabar just like Anambra people are present in Enugu and it will remain the same for eternity. They outnumber Efiks and you can't lay the blame solely on Efiks because your people sat back too, didn't they?

Moreover, no one stopped your people from Uyo.
PoliticsRe: Elumelu - "My Mother Was Kidnapped After I Signed Fertiliser Plant Deal" by Obiagu1(m): 3:28pm On Jul 16, 2012
You guys no get job cheesy cheesy cheesy
PoliticsRe: Cross River Loses Oil Producing Status –RMAFC by Obiagu1(m): 3:14pm On Jul 16, 2012
Instead of deleting Cross River State from the list of "Niger Delta" states, I hereby move a motion that Cross River and Akwa Ibom states be merged again.
This problem was caused by unnecessary balkanisation and has created problems between brothers. sad
CultureRe: Are There Any Experts On Traditional Igbo Religion? by Obiagu1(m): 10:27pm On Jul 15, 2012
Ptolomeus: Again I ask a question that has not responded.


According to Yoruba mythology, when Oduduwa founded the city of Ife, Oduduwa began Orishanla disputes with the King (Obi) of the Igbo. These conflicts led to repeated clashes between the two armies. These wars, which end with the victory of Oduduwa, is considered by many historians as a recreation of what was the struggle of both kingdoms Igbo and Ife for supremacy.
The ceremonies are conducted in Ile Ife Orishanla in commemoration of these historical events.
Initially, these ceremonies lasted nine days, but now reduced to five days a week Yoruba according to four days, then the ceremonies begin and end on the day consecrated to Orishanla.

The main temple was Egigbo Oguiyán. His name is a contraction of the phrase "je Iyan Orissa Orisajiyán or Orisaguiyán and that the name is related to the option of eating inhame (Iyan).

For its part, the name of Obatala (Oba t'ala) means king of white cloth.
Interesting. I never heard of this before. What I've heard was that the Igbo once occupied the entire Southern Nigeria before the arrival of other groups. Since their population was scanty west of core Igboland, wars and discontent drove most back to Igboland while some were assimilated.
CultureRe: Are There Any Experts On Traditional Igbo Religion? by Obiagu1(m): 10:17pm On Jul 15, 2012
abagoro: @poster just read up about the Nri and Aro. They are the basic building block of the Igbo identity. I have a deeper feeling though that Isuama might have been our corest block but their culture seem most devastated by slave trade. Omenala,Omenali,Omenani,Omelala are all the same and rooted in the earth worship or Nso ani of Nri.I'm from a part of Igbo that has Riverine tradition and worship differently in our own way but I notice a lot of Nri and Aro influence. I believe those two clans were part of what shaped Igbo identity,tradition and religion which binds us.
Quite right, both Nri and Aro culture will give anyone that wants to know about general Igbo tradition a firm understanding of what is Igbo culture. Many other clans do not have much variance from these two.
CultureRe: Are There Any Experts On Traditional Igbo Religion? by Obiagu1(m): 10:09pm On Jul 15, 2012
ChinenyeN: I've never heard of Odinani before. Is that supposed to be Omelala?
I would say odinani is the same as tradition while omenala is the practice. I could be wrong.
CultureRe: Urbanism And Expansionism In The Culture Of The Igbo by Obiagu1(m):
ChinenyeN: If/since the above is the case, then it would mean that the concept of -land is essentially non-existent in the northern axis.
That's right but not in all northern Igboland.


ezeagu: What would Umunri and Onicha (Umuezechima) see themselves as?
Umunri, Umuezechima and Umuanedo are independent towns/villages from a common ancestor hence the "umu" prefix; they are not clans. It's quite different from Ngwa, Aro etc that were established by related group of people who are not from a single parent.

Your post I quoted in my previous post gave an answer to the puzzle.
CultureRe: Urbanism And Expansionism In The Culture Of The Igbo by Obiagu1(m): 9:02pm On Jul 15, 2012
ezeagu: It may also have to do with migration and age. Northern Igbo land which I will include areas around Owere for now is much older than Souther Igboland in terms of people currently populating these areas. Look at the difference between areas Owere and those over the Imo which are only a few hundred years old.
This is the most likely explanation. Age could be the reason. For instance, a man gave birth to ten kids and each established independent towns like we have in Anambra. Those independent towns then grew and have villages in them. Some years later, certain group of people migrated from these villages to a vastly uninhabited land. They left with one identity but are many enough to create towns that identified themselves as one people because they migrated from a common area and see each other as related hence forming clans like we have in the Southern part of Igboland.
CultureRe: Urbanism And Expansionism In The Culture Of The Igbo by Obiagu1(m):
odumchi: No. I'm only saying that unlike many other northern groups, they are comprised of several autonomous communities that share the same identity. Although it's possible to assert the existence of an 'Nriland', the circumstances behind it and those behind the lands of southern groups like the Ngwa and Ikwere differ.
I once said that there was nothing like Nri clan and some people doubted me. Clan is strange in Anambra and some people are trying to create clans in Anambra when none existed. We are towns independent of each other but have cultural tie to Nri like most Igbo towns and clans. There's nothing like Nriland, never existed and never will.
PoliticsRe: Ecowas New Member?? by Obiagu1(m): 6:41pm On Jul 15, 2012
^^^

Is the government of Cameroon actually planning to join Ecowas or is it just your wish?
PoliticsRe: Why Judge The Development Of A State Solely On The Capital City by Obiagu1(m): 4:57pm On Jul 15, 2012
Acidosis: roads that leads to villages are meant for the initiators i.e the Governors whenever they are going for campaign. But again, a good road is the first step to development. How do you convey your goods, building materials without a motorable road and these days when grading a road without planning how you'll get it tarred, then I am sorry. . .
I'm not talking about unmaintained dirt roads, of course they should be motorable. In the North, they have many tarred roads that lead to nowhere whereas the villagers have no water and have to fetch water from very deep wells with the help of mai ruwas. The money used to tar those roads should have served the locals better if they were used to build boreholes with pumps.
My point is that roads should be motorable, tarred or not.
PoliticsRe: Why Judge The Development Of A State Solely On The Capital City by Obiagu1(m): 4:25pm On Jul 15, 2012
^^^

Are you sure? More developed than Anambra? By the way, stadium is not a measure of development.
In my small unheard village in Anambra, we have water supply (government and private complimenting each other), post office, police station, electricity, well maintained tarred and dirt roads, schools, clinics etc. It's very hard to see undeveloped lands anymore though more than 80% of us live outside the town.
PoliticsRe: Why Judge The Development Of A State Solely On The Capital City by Obiagu1(m): 4:13pm On Jul 15, 2012
asha 80: spyder880 and obiagu having tarred roads in villages or more importantly connecting does not neccesarily mean increase in vehicular traffic.a tarred road passes my hometown house but vehicular interval a the gate of our home about 4 to 10 mins
Roads are generally tarred based on the vehicular traffic. You don't tar roads that are barely used except, of course, in the city. Well maintained dirt roads could serve some villages. We waste so much money tarring roads while we leave other more important things undone like water supply, electricity, clinics etc.
PoliticsRe: Why Judge The Development Of A State Solely On The Capital City by Obiagu1(m): 4:05pm On Jul 15, 2012
Kobojunkie: a) Every village has to have central water supply -- that you do not see a huge thank above DOES NOT mean there is no water supply to the village here in America. In fact, please supply the name of ONE VILLAGE here in America without a water supply system installed. We can easily investigate that particular situation to verify claims that there is none.

b) In Nigeria, most roads are either tarred or left to the elements, and that means terrible conditions.Villages required good roads just as surrounding towns and cities. I am not sure what part of the law suggests that villages can or should go without. Dirt roads in North America are not dirt roads in Nigeria. Dirt roads in America do not turn into gullies and driving nightmares as those in many of our villages in Nigeria do, and are allowed to remain all year round.

c) I don't think it is sensible to argue that because roads in villages will not get a lot of auto traffic, that they should not be built.
Many of those that live in villages depend on boreholes though they are all inspected, approved and documented. I don't need to list names but we have so many small villages here in Canada.
PoliticsRe: Why Judge The Development Of A State Solely On The Capital City by Obiagu1(m): 3:52pm On Jul 15, 2012
asha 80: mai gaskiya read before replying@ obiagu i am not not saying that the villages should be turned to urban jungles.what i mean is that basic things public water or borhole as the case may be,good tarred roads within and connecting the villages and even well equiped schools etc.i even prefer this type of setting than the kind of urban settings we have.
You're right. However, we should not judge development by whether roads are tarred or not which I know some people do.
I think a village or small town should have an accessible hospital and school (within a specified radius), water supply (central or personal), accessible post office, electricity (a must), waste disposal system etc.
PoliticsRe: Why Judge The Development Of A State Solely On The Capital City by Obiagu1(m): 3:41pm On Jul 15, 2012
Kobojunkie: You still need villages? As in No Water, no decent tarred roads, no proper drainage Villages, no functioning police stations and schools VILLAGES?? shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked What village in North America compares to what Village in Nigeria that you know of?
I said they should have basic infrastructure that MUST include electricity. Water supply depends the size of the village, here some have no central water supply system and depend on personal boreholes. Roads must not be tarred, there are many untarred but well maintained dirt roads everywhere in North America. You don't waste money tarring roads that are barely used like it's done in most Northern states; that's how resources are managed in North America.
PoliticsRe: Why Judge The Development Of A State Solely On The Capital City by Obiagu1(m): 3:34pm On Jul 15, 2012
asha 80: sometimes one just gets the feeling some people cannot think beyod state capitals like as if villages should remain the way they where 50 years ago.
I understand what you're saying but we still need villages, though they should have basic infrastructure like good roads (tarred or dirt), electricity, water supply, etc.
There are villages everywhere in North America and some a just one/two city states/provinces.
PoliticsRe: Why Judge The Development Of A State Solely On The Capital City by Obiagu1(m): 3:19pm On Jul 15, 2012
mai gaskiya: my frnd kan u pls tel ds forum where ure frm nd tel us where in imo state hav u been nd whic part of imo state u saw donkey let alone drinkng frm d same source wit human bengs.am waitng 4ur reply
I don't think he said the donkey example he gave was in Imo State, did he?
PoliticsRe: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by Obiagu1(m): 2:58pm On Jul 15, 2012
PoliticsRe: What Is “sub-saharan Africa” Exactly? by Obiagu1(m): 3:43am On Jul 15, 2012
For those that don't know, sub in Sub Sahara means "Below/Beneath Sahara" in the context the map of Africa is viewed.
PoliticsRe: What Is “sub-saharan Africa” Exactly? by Obiagu1(m):
Wahala dey oo! In America, Blacks are divided on what they should be addressed as, Blacks, African Americans, Black Americans, Africans, Negros, etc to the extent the word "black" is used carefully around AAs.

In Africa, sub-Suhara is "becoming" a problem too. How does one differentiate the rest of Africa, from North Africans who are not blacks? Should we be called Black Africans (but Africa is supposed to be a continent inhabited by Blacks) or South Africans (South Africa is already a country) or Southern Africans (Southern Africa is already a regional body in Africa) or Lower Sahara (Lower will cause a bigger trouble cheesy)?

Suggestion is needed.
PoliticsRe: Another Gej Achievement:as Nnpc Re-opens Aba Depot After 10 Years by Obiagu1(m): 3:10am On Jul 15, 2012
adino: Just like the Benin-Ore road:
OBJ could not do it
Yaradua Could not do it, But:

NNPC RE-OPENS ABA DEPOT AFTER 10 YEARS and some haterz will say GEJ is not working. Why are haters silent about FOI bill, Benin Ore Road, Indigenisation policy in Nigeria petroleum industry (Nigerians are becoming big time players) just to mention a few of GEJ achievements. Soon haters will forget about PHCN wahala after GEJ solves it and start criticising him for wearing his hat.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/nnpc-re-opens-aba-depot-10-years-after/119641/

Story
What the fvck is depot huh Why can't he site one of the planned petrochemical companies in the SE? Don't we produce oil?
He should build a filling station too in Orlu so that you'll give him one more clap. sad
PoliticsRe: Tension In Plateau As STF Orders Fulani Out Of Ancestral Villages by Obiagu1(m): 2:58am On Jul 15, 2012
ramaju: Fulani and ancestral home in plateau? Hmm! Does average fulani have ancestral home? Do they stay in a place for long? May be someday they will say 9th mile in Enugu State is their ancestral home because some of them have makeshift homes there.
In years to come, where would you send 3rd and 4th generation Fulanis in 9th mile to? Many of them probably have never been to the North; it's really a difficult situation.
PoliticsRe: Ecowas New Member?? by Obiagu1(m):
This is still a debate, is Cameroon in West or Central Africa? Personally, Cameroon is a West African country and has been referred as such by the Western media.
I wonder why they are not in Ecowas.
PoliticsRe: Picture Of New Biafra Map Covering PH,CALABER,IGALA,EDO AND IDOMA by Obiagu1(m): 2:16am On Jul 13, 2012
godello: I refuse to be part of biafra. They have selfish motives.
I know that this thread is trash, but I bet that if Biafra is allowed to leave, lets say by the UN, and no other country is allowed to be created from Nigeria, many groups will be begging to join the new nation whether the name is Biafra or even Igboland.
PoliticsRe: Group To Declare State Of Biafra Republic On Nov 5 by Obiagu1(m): 1:25am On Jul 12, 2012
I hope they do not end up creating chaos.
If they do not have adequate plan in place, they shouldn't even bother with the declaration.

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