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I Hacked:
I am Quoting from odilibe (m) « #505 on: August 12, 2011, 08:20 AM »

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-712408.480.html

with all the insult please look at the pictures below

thou it can not be enjoyed  yet but at least  i have hit green and have seen some of the channels.
with the same old 90cm .

I Hacked:
this are places where  nilesat can be track with 90cm only if you have Invacom LNBF or Spitfire Elite Single Output 0.1dB Universal LNB

north of Kenya,north of Uganda,Mali.Mauritania

@I Hacked on 12 august 2011 page 16 of this thread you claimed that nilesat signals can be tracked with 90cm dish only with spitfire lnb or invacom in these countries above, north of uganda,north of kenya, mali and mauritania according to www.satbeams.com and nilesat website nilesat 201 footprint covers these countries, where 101 and 102 covers mali and mauritania and recommended dish sizes are below 90cm.Secondly you stated that you tracked  this frequency 11278V/27500 the fact is that this frequency does exist on nile satellites 101/102/201 using www.flysat.com. since i have tracked nilesat previously and for the fact that your location is not stated on this forum, i thereby reserve my comments

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[quote author=George_D link=topic=712408.msg9457531#msg9457531 date=1320144163]And more:[/quote]"looks like you are not receiving atlantic-bird7 tps"  ,just checking

lovala:
@sathob:
I hia u my broda. but mark my words, channels which will be available for the NWA beam from AB7 will be ones from Sudan, S. Sudan, Somali, Eritrea, Ethiopia, and the likes broadcasting totally in arabic. The ones that will be so irksome you'd always want to switch channels. I pray they prove me wrong ,

U are right , but the countries in the NWA beam coverage is likely to  rent transponders @ AB7 NWA beam. . the funny part is  that the NWA beam has only (12 transponders) while MENA beam has (44 transponders) huge gap. ,  however the 12 transponders  from (NWA BEAM)   is for ku band broadband services. what does this mean?Internet services etc. there will be no tv channel on the NWA BEAM

[quote author=D.lee link=topic=712408.msg9403346#msg9403346 date=1319396097]@ All, have any one noticed something about the footprint of AB7? If you watch the footprint closely, you will find out that the footprint meandered away from West Africa. The footprint covered the whole of East Africa where the big brother has no or less customers and in West Africa where they have multitude of their customers, the AB7 footprint meandered away from it simple because they are afraid of loosing their customers and thereby deny us what we suppose to be enjoying freely. I strongly believe that they will not allow any good english speaking channel to cross West African beam on that AB7. I know they are not happy with the existence of MultiTv but they cannot do anything against it. Can you imagine that they are against don**le which this honourable forum is against too and at the same time they never want us to enjoy what other are enjoying freely. No wonder some people call them Dsthieves.[/quote]The fact is that ab7 and all satellite at 7west, that is nilesat 101/101/201 is owned by  egypt, and egypt is a middle-east country and also an arab country.another fact is that the egyptians designed  all satellite at 7west, to be received only by the middle-easts  an all arab countries in africa/asia, i believe that the egyptians is only trying to reach to their brothers the arabs and the middle-east parts of africa and asia,the old bird nilesat 101,atlantic-bird 4a and 102 did not cover all the middle-east parts of africa and asia that includes south sudan and somalia, the error has been corrected from nilesat 201 and atlatic-bird 7 satellites. what do i mean?, any country that don't speak arab or part of the middle-east will be out of the footprint.on the other hand,if you take another close look at ab7  and nilesat201 map, you can see that kenya is lucky to be in the footprint why? cos they extended the footprint to somalia and south sudan which is part of middle-east, and it is impossible to remove kenya out of the footprint and still maintain coverage at south sudan and somalia. it has nothing to do with dstv.it is a middle-east issue.

miju:
@ALL
what's the latest news on atlantic bird 7 @ 7 degrees west?
thank you

Atlantic-bird 7 has left 13.2degrees west it's orbital test position and now moving slowly towards 7degrees west.according to eutelsat, atlantic-bird 7 will be moved to 7degrees west in the 2nd half of october.i assume from the speed of  the satellite it will arrive @7west probably before 21st of october .until then

emexi:
@all . am giving away my 1.8m dish and  the superjack. so if your in enugu  and you really want it .come pick them .holla me on 08066684380

*God loves a cheerful giver*

swordswifter:
Hi all,
It looks like Atlantic Bird 7 has already started operations.This morning some transponders were not operational whiles others were having improved signal quality.I will be able to know for certain which frequencies have moved,those that are staying and those that will be joining later in the evening.You can check for it's status and in orbit parameters on http://www.n2yo.com/database/?q=Atlantic+Bird and http://www.n2yo.com/?s=37816 respectively.

atlantic-bird 7 orbital test  will take place @13.2degrees west,from source a full series of test will take place before the satellite is moved to 7west, in the second half of october, and according to www.n2yo.com, the satellite is now @ longitude (-11.77). it has not arrived @7west, the satellite is still moving to 7west.

toba:
im getting confused ooo. i just checked lyngsat for the footprint of nilesat 201 and from the picture, it appears that 201 is a bit closer to us and all the sport tps are now there. are u saying what is posted on lyngsat is wrong?m

The footprint of nilesat 201/101/102 on (www.lyngsat.com) are from  (www.nilesat.com.eg/Home.aspx),that is nilesat website, for satellite footprints also refer to (www.satbeams.com)if you take a close  look  at the nilesat  coverage map it seems that nilesat 101/102 satellite are closer to NIGER  which is a neighboring country to nigeria, regardless of the footprint maps that is not the main reason why nilesat 201 satellite is more difficult to receive in nigeria etc, it is the satellite technical specification, nilesat 101 and 102 has KU-band EIRP contour (dbW) of 47.1 to 50.1 whilist the nilesat 201 has 45-49(dBW),the EIRP value of nilesat 101 and 102 are higher than nilesat 201, that means the nilesat 201 has less power than nilesat 101 and 102 as per coverage area. what does dbw means: it refers to the power radiated from satellite in the direction towards the contour line.EIRP means ;equivalent isotropic radiated power.45 dBW is same as 31622 watt transmitter feeding an omni-directional antenna,a reduction from 4dBW Means you need a satellite dish 2 times the area, a 6dB Reduction   requires a satellite dish 4 times the area.when checked footprint , EIRP LEVEL and recommended dish size from satbeams it seems that NIGER requires 70cm dish to receive nilesat 101 and 102 (EIRP=48dBW) while it requires 80cm dish to receive nilesat 201(EIRP=46dBW), at all coverage area recommended dish sizes required to receive nilesat 201 has increased by at least 5cm when compared to nilesat 101/102,from EIRP LEVEL dBW; nilesat 101 and 102 transmitting power are stronger than nilesat 201 at coverage areas, That has effected  the fringe receptions.for satellite beams internet coverage patterns refer to, (www.satsig.net/satellite-internet-access.htm) Below are nilesat 201/101/102 footprints.

nigcomsat 1r to be lunched by nigeria, at 43 degrees east(42.5E) Details:4C-band/14 KU- band and 2 L- band   transponders.With a regional footprint  launch date 1dec-25dec 2011. see footprint.                                                       (www.nigcomsat.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=56&ltemid=27),                                                NIGCOMSAT 1R @ 42.5EAST,to be launched soon.

obnelly:
odilibi my chairman i dey get the signal small small oooo.itv2 hd is showinf 2morrow never dies by james bond signal on my tlink receiver is 83 converting tha to strong is 50-52%.

obnelly:
DISNEY XD,ITV2-4 HD,SKY MOVIES,ACTION,COMEDY,SCFI,FAMILY---------SKY THRILLER,EUROSPORT HD,FX ,SKY ART 2,E4,SKY MOVIE BOX OFFICE,NAT GEO,EDEN NICKELODEON ALL HD ALL THESE I CAN WATCH BUT I GET FULL SIGNAL EARLY IN THE MORNING.46-48 is my signal strenght its a low signal but it still show little or no freezing.

@obnelly, the astra 2a/2b sky digital signal is very strong in the uk,it is hardly disturbed by rain,Lots of free channels  on sky digital uk frequencies, Hitv is even free under sky uk, they show one music and hi-nolly on one channel.Cheers.

obnelly:
Sky digital.the bigger your dish the better.

Interesting.

well-done @KUNGU,nice post.

Kungu:
Hi Casin,

The MBC HD channels are free to air once you buy the MBC Technosat receiver. No monthly charges. The main reason for them encrypting the MBC HD channels is because of copyright issues with the movie providers.
The Movies are very clear which would open up piracy for sale of bootleg Dvds recorded form the MBC HD Channels.

No provider will give it's subscribers hd movie channels for free, the MBC HD channels are availlable free on technosat T-786 HD satellite receiver which comes with a card which is vallied  for 3years on conax encryption.That is no monthly fees for 3years.After 3yrs the card  becomes invalid then what  .I got this info from a good source.  . As for piracy issues i don't think anyone is going to pirate or sale old movies on dvd recorded from a satellite channel for the sake of HD.

williams85:
In the near future, i see lots of goodies on tv stations and satellites beams in nigeria.
I took lots of time lookin for satellites to be lunched and beamed in our dear county nigeria and neighbour ghana,
Its very interestin.
Arabsat 5c @20* east to be lunched today, and its c-band beam passed through nigeria .
Next to be lunch is atlantic bird 7 @ 7*west on 22nd of this month,
It now time for big brothers to stop marginalizing us!

@all lots of satellites will be launched on oct-dec 2011, just check out eutelsat w3c footprint map/coverage, it has europe/ sub-sahara africa/east africa footprint,the w3c satellite will be positioned at 16 degrees east with 53 ku band transponder, launch date october 2011. (www.eutelsat.com/satellites/16e-W3C_popd.html) EUTELSAT W3C @16EAST. to be launched soon.

Sophieamore1:
@ODILIBE,
YOU SAID THE MODERATOR OF THIS FORUM GAVE US THE RIGHT TO POST WHATEVER WE LIKE ON THIS FORUM, AS FAR AS IT IS RELATED TO SATELLITE TECHNOLOGY, SINCE THIS IS A GENERAL THREAD.
SO WHY WERE PEOPLE STOPPING US FROM POSTING THINGS RELATING TO DONGLE, CLINE ETC.
IF WE ARE FREE TO POST ANYTHING WE LIKE ON THIS THREAD AS LONG AS IT IS RELATED TO SATELLITE TECHNOLOGY, THEN I WILL BE THE HAPPIEST PERSON HERE.
VIVA FTA!!!

But how come all your words are writing in capital letter,you are braking the rules,and how does cline relate to fta satellite? as for dongle you can ask the moderator

Adex70:
@odilibe your precious assistance is needed pls as your profile indicate u are in uk, can u pls help me look for a good lnb that can perform better than eurovition &fuji lnb prime focus on fring satlite on solid pan, may be invato ultra black quard or any one u know that can do the job, pls we cant get them here in nigeria, let me know the cost and how to mail u the cash, thanks for all the contribution my e mail adedad20002001@yahoo.com

@adex70,  yeah i am in london/uk the inverto black ultra quad cost ( £29.95) on www. ebay.co.uk almost equivalent to 7500 naira a little bit expensive.                                                                                                                              @swordswifter i will check the spec of njr2843e/njr2843s

swordswifter:
Good Evening Adex70 and Iron2011,
I wanted to post an article of the workings of these LNBs but the concepts are a bit technical and complicated i might end up confusing most people in the long run.I'll therefore ask you guys to give me a day or two to properly prepare an easy to understand article of the workings and advantages of these LNBs.However if any one else is eager to know how these LNB's look like or maybe their market prices,you can look up Norsat Ku PLL LNBs or New Japan Radio Ku PLL LNBs.Norsat has been in the market for over 30yrs and New Japan Radio has been in the market for over 50yrs.Hope to finish the article soon.

may be norsat pll ku lnbs are very good ,but the input frequency of norsat pll lnbs are not practical at all .a typical universal lnb input frequency is from 10.7-12.75 GHZ, but norsat lnb hardly range from 10.7 t0 12.75 GHZ.check specifications,on the other hand it is very expensive, that includes the smw pll lnb.

Ussals:
is this not CENTEC lnb?

yes it is santec

petfun4u:
My people, I told you I am looking for a powerful LNB I can use to continue my tracking. I just returned to the office with one now. I wish to share this for any one who can lay their hand on it. It is very expensive but, the outcome of my research over the weekend will enable me share more of my findings. Here is the picture below and wish me good luck.

That lnb you posted is the best lnb in the nigerian market, very expensive,it was sold 10000 naira in enugu by a satellite shop, but that was long time ago, with that lnb you will track every frequency on nilesat/atlantic bird, all ADD/OSN etc with 2.4 mtr dish,i mean in enugu nigeria, it outperformed fuji prime focus lnb by long gap.it works very well on a big dish.

astra 4b - 5degrees east c band coverage

ses 5/astra 4b orbital position @ 5degrees east to be launched at 4th quarter of 2011, with 24 c band transponder ,36 ku band transponders to provide direct to home broadcasting and vsat in europe and africa,its expected life time 15 yrs.(www.satbeams.com/satellites?id=2488) (www.ses-worldskies.com/worldskies/satellites/fleet/ses-5/index.php) (www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32138:ses-astra-commits-african-market&catid=260:telecoms&ltemid=59)

I Hacked:
thank you thank you thank you my brodas am not using any disec is only one ku dish with HH motor

what worry me is  that if the dish is cosign the problem like my broda Adex70 said
why do other tp on the same sat gos up to 93% ?

even the week satellite like w3 w6 intelsat 16 at 66E and 26.0E are all high no breaks even when it is raining.
or is the motor eating up this tp signals?

please check the signals strength below

larryenob:
@ɪ̣̝̇
hacked
your problem is at position dat ų have 11746 green is Τ̅Ħ̀ε̅ weakest point for dat frequ all ų need to do is turn your dish little to Τ̅Ħ̀ε̅ left or right note when ų use 90cm to get above 50% will lose some % in some dstv signal(frequency)

There are two satellites placed on 36 degrees east ,eutelsat w4 and eutelsat w7. 11766V 27500 and all the dstv frequencies are on eutelsat w7 while the 12437 H is on w4,and the the two sats cannot be exactly on the same 36east ,may  be a slight gap , which is enough to effect the signal quality between the two sats, when tracking both at the same time.it is not the motor that is killing your signals,you have positioned your dish in such a way to pick other satellites when using motor, to achieve this you may have to lose some (db) / signal % on tp from other satellites.may be you should refer to what larryenob said, and if you are receiving this tp 12284H 27500 on w4 use it to track 12437 H 

[quote author=info.fta link=topic=712408.msg8945614#msg8945614 date=1313598650]Still on super lnb. Has anyone tried Technomate 0.1db lnb, Titanium 0.1db lnb. Proved to be better than Invacum 0.1db lnb by guys in the UK. Hope to nail Nilesat with 90cm or 1m dish.[/quote]based on review from sat forums uk,this is the top rated lnb. inverto black ultra quad lnb noise figure 0.2db.  i don't think 90cm can receive nilesat in nigeria with any lnb.

dbryth:
Gadotor,  Check out  the pictures i have attached and let me know which on you think its the best, Thanks

@dbryth,the best ku lnb in the picture is invacom quad polar ku lnbf which has both circular and linear polarity however this lnbf is typicaly designed for america; latin america/north america/south america satellites and direct tv/ dish network america which uses R/L cicular pol and not for africa based on it's specification :the linear polarity frequency is  (high band)11.7~12.2 GHZ while the circular pol frequency is  (high band)12.2~12.7 that means you can't receive any frequency  (low band) from 10.7~11.7 GHZ ,on any satellite ,the invacom quad polar lnb don't have a low band frequency it won't work on astra 2b/w3a/intelsat 7/10 satellites etc.comparing dms single ku lnb with noise fig:0.3db,conversion gain 50 db and spitfire ku lnb noise fig 0.1db,conversion gain 58db.on my own part, the best linear lnb in the picture to use in africa/europe/asia should be spitfire lnbf.

I Hacked:
nilesat can be track with 90cm only if you have Invacom LNBF or Spitfire Elite Single Output 0.1dB Universal LNB
below is the picture
some one tell me if he know different one I will appreciate it thank you

crap

Everest9:
Guys dis discussion about getting nailsat wit 90cm seems impossible but i wil be happy if its works out and ready to try it out if i can get the lmb duo i am in Eastern part of Nigeria which i dont know if we wil be included

don't even waste your money on any lnb(f) trying to pick nilesat with a 90cm dish. anyone trying to track nilesat with a 90cm dish have never tried nilesat with a 2.4m/1.8m dish before, referring to your location, you can't get nilesat with a 90cm dish.

[quote author=info.fta link=topic=712408.msg8895573#msg8895573 date=1312994319]@sophiaemore1
The thread is not dead. But the d**ngle thing is causing lazyness.
There is an lnb to track nilesat with 90cm dish. Try it and report back to the house. Lol.[/quote]

miju:
@info.fta wats d name of the lnb dat miraculously work nilesat on a 90cm dish.
@ badaru, @freshp @gadator is the above real?
i'll always remain a silent learner reading through the thread everyday.

may be you will re-locate to afghanistan or iraq to get a good signal with a 90cm antenna.

williams85:
I tracked c-band satellites recieveable in nigeria without a dialectric plate. Give it a try and see 4 urself.
The satellites are intelsat902c, intelsat10/7C,arabsat5a and others in east,

that means you are using 2.4mtr dish or above, cos you will reduce your signal quality by at least 15% without dielectric  at intelsat 902c or arabsat 5a ,with 1.8mtr dish you won't even hit green @all.

Boboribo:
@ALL - new channel on Astra 2B @ 12.582h2.929. channel name is TANDBERG SERVICE

"tandberg service is not a channel name, probably a feed"

Newtonn:
@Pidzo,
plz kindly explain to me the meaning of this 4 or 5 oclock you and williams85 are saying.
thks

Pidzo:
@Newtonn
Sorry if my explanation will not be that clear, may be others will come in. Imagine you are standing in front of the dish. Look at it as if it's a clock. In your head put the hour numbers on the dish, 1, 2, 3 up to 12 the way they are arranged on a watch with hour hands. Now take it that when you point at 1 you are at 1 oclock, at 2 you are at 2 oclock, at 3 its 3 oclock up to 12. So, if the lnb knob is directly downwards you would say its at 6 oclock. If it is exactly up or there about you would say its 12 oclock and so on and so forth. I hope you get my 'difficult to comprehend' explanation.

@newton                                                                     
the pic shows lnb skew using clock@ 5 o'clock.

Pidzo:
@Newtonn
Sorry if my explanation will not be that clear, may be others will come in. Imagine you are standing in front of the dish. Look at it as if it's a clock. In your head put the hour numbers on the dish, 1, 2, 3 up to 12 the way they are arranged on a watch with hour hands. Now take it that when you point at 1 you are at 1 oclock, at 2 you are at 2 oclock, at 3 its 3 oclock up to 12. So, if the lnb knob is directly downwards you would say its at 6 oclock. If it is exactly up or there about you would say its 12 oclock and so on and so forth. I hope you get my 'difficult to comprehend' explanation.

pic of 8'oclock lnb skew