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IMMUNO1: You guys should leave GEJ alone. One day, we all are going to applaud him when we finally come to know the real reason he decided not to speak there. He may appear foolish for many but for me, he is simply choosy and calculative.

You are correct sir. Same thing happened in CHOGM head of states meeting in Australia in 2011. It was the same allegation made in this current scenario. We are still waiting to hear why His Excellency was not in attendance. Although Abati released a statement to the effect that the CHOGM meeting was meant for Governors.

abes: This document is very useful to yahoo boiz

I can't stop laughing over your comment. I think Mod should ban you for thinking outside of the box

Joyfullyme: "may"or may not
"Possible" not a neccesity

In the rule of interpretation, (Law), most times "may" is interpreted "shall".

Mad Cow: [b]Another beautifully stupid idea from Lagos State Government.

The Drivers and Conductors currently in lagos that have no dresscode restriction already smell worse than the Lagos carnal, is it now when you restrict their dressing that they would start washing their uniforms?! This is utter nonsense. Lagosians dont give a rats ass what the drivers are wearing, what they want is for these drivers to be properly regulated by the government (NOT NURTW).

- Like the yellow cabs of New York, all Bus drivers should be mandated to display their drivers licence and vehicle registration/permit (in-form a a large sticker) visibly in the bus. This sticker must carry the drivers face on it. Same for conductors.
- All conductors should be registered with an agency and be given and numbered vest and Large font government/agency issued I.D card which they must be mandated to wear visibly at all times. This agency should be responsible for regulating the activities of conductors including the nonsense attitude of hanging on a moving bus with the door wide open, e.t.c.
- A Telephone number (Preferably a shortcode number like 555) for reports and complaints against drivers should be also given to the public and be displayed in the vehicle at all times. This line should be used for reporting badly behaved drivers and also report cases were a bus is being used for criminal activities.


A slow phasing out of certain buses should also comence. This is 2013, Molue has no place in the future we are all aspiring towards. Danfo sef should now be extinct. slowly phase ou these buses and replace them with only one or two brands of buses for uniformity sake. Overloading of vehicles should also stop. e.t.c


There is so much work to be done in sanitizing the transprot system of Lagos (and Nigeria) and uniforms is not one of them. More than three quarters of the bus drivers are not even properly trained to drive, dont know traffic rules and signs, have zero manners, e.t.c.

P.S Fashola!! How about making these bus drivers all get premium comprehensive insurance. I know its expensive, but they can under the aegis of NURTW come together and buy a group/fleet insurance. But it must be comprehensive. So that these bus Drivers will know that they have a lot to lose if they keep driving recklessly. The terms of the insurance must also cover compensation for deaths and injuries resulting from the bad driving of the driver and or his conductor. Thats what I and many Nigerian will love to see. God knows NURTW already makes so much money off of these drivers as it is and they dont account for it to anyone.[/b]

How about you copyright this idea and find away to get it to Fashola and show him how it will work? I am not a Fashola supporter, I am just lawyer who looks at things from different perspectives. Coming here to tell us what Fashola wants to do is not practicable may not be 'practicable' as well. They said 'you will know one person that will know one person that will know one person that will know Fashola' Please use the just-mentioned principle to reach him and give him your superior idea.

Mad Cow: [b]Another beautifully stupid idea from Lagos State Government.

The Drivers and Conductors currently in lagos that have no dresscode restriction already smell worse than the Lagos carnal, is it now when you restrict their dressing that they would start washing their uniforms?! This is utter nonsense. Lagosians dont give a rats ass what the drivers are wearing, what they want is for these drivers to be properly regulated by the government (NOT NURTW).

- Like the yellow cabs of New York, all Bus drivers should be mandated to display their drivers licence and vehicle registration/permit (in-form a a large sticker) visibly in the bus. This sticker must carry the drivers face on it. Same for conductors.
- All conductors should be registered with an agency and be given and numbered vest and Large font government/agency issued I.D card which they must be mandated to wear visibly at all times. This agency should be responsible for regulating the activities of conductors including the nonsense attitude of hanging on a moving bus with the door wide open, e.t.c.
- A Telephone number (Preferably a shortcode number like 555) for reports and complaints against drivers should be also given to the public and be displayed in the vehicle at all times. This line should be used for reporting badly behaved drivers and also report cases were a bus is being used for criminal activities.


A slow phasing out of certain buses should also comence. This is 2013, Molue has no place in the future we are all aspiring towards. Danfo sef should now be extinct. slowly phase ou these buses and replace them with only one or two brands of buses for uniformity sake. Overloading of vehicles should also stop. e.t.c


There is so much work to be done in sanitizing the transprot system of Lagos (and Nigeria) and uniforms is not one of them. More than three quarters of the bus drivers are not even properly trained to drive, dont know traffic rules and signs, have zero manners, e.t.c.

P.S Fashola!! How about making these bus drivers all get premium comprehensive insurance. I know its expensive, but they can under the aegis of NURTW come together and buy a group/fleet insurance. But it must be comprehensive. So that these bus Drivers will know that they have a lot to lose if they keep driving recklessly. The terms of the insurance must also cover compensation for deaths and injuries resulting from the bad driving of the driver and or his conductor. Thats what I and many Nigerian will love to see. God knows NURTW already makes so much money off of these drivers as it is and they dont account for it to anyone.[/b]

How about you copyright this idea and find away to get it to Fashola and show him how it will work? I am not a Fashola supporter, I am just lawyer who looks at things from different perspectives. Coming here to tell us what Fashola wants to do is not practicable may not be 'practicable' as well. They said 'you will know one person that will know one person that will know one person that will know Fashola' Please use the just-mentioned principle to reach him and give him your superior idea.

Hi all et OP,

The fastest way to get attention in Nigeria these days is through the internet, social media, Tv and newsprint. Please tell your lawyer to call press conference or get someone who can link you and your lawyer up with any ' oga at the top' in The Punch. If they can publish the story repeatedly in Punch, trust me, your money would be returned without much ado. If you have to follow legality per se, it may take time most especially when your wife is expecting.

No be small thing oh! So each time one wants to post or reply, the rules must show up.

@ Server123, the penalty is 5, 000 Naira every month after the expiration of the 6 months grace period.

Barristerlaw: The act of unilateral increase of rent with an unimmaginable and unreasonable percentage by landlords every year without any justification has now become a thing of the past.landlords undoubtedly have the right to increase rent subject to the test of reasonability.however,where the increase is oppressive and unreasonable,tenants have the righ to apply to court to have it reviewed.The reasonability test here is determined by the current rent applicable in the area for that particular time.on this tenants in lagos state are fortified by the provisions of Section 37(1)-(4) of Lagos State tenancy Law 2011.For clarity, the provisions of the aforementioned sections is hereinafter reproduced seriatim:
37-(1) Subject to any agreement to the contrary,an existing tenant may apply as in form TL11 to the court for
an order declaring that the increase in rent payable under a tenancy agreement is unreasonable.
(2)in determined whether an increase in the rent is unreasonable,the court shall issue hearing notice as in form TL12 to the landlord and shall consider the application on the followig grounds-
(a) the general level of rents in the locality or a similar locality for a comparative analysis;
(b) evidence of th witnesses of the parties;and
(c) any special circumstances relating to the premises in question or any other relevant matter.
(3)if satisfied that the increase in the rent is unreasonable,the court may order as in form TL13 that the increase in the rent be changed to a specific amount.
(4) notwithstanding the provisions of any law,it shall be unlawful for a landlord to eject a tenant from any
premises pending the determination of the action.
This provision of the law is to protect the oppressed tenants against abuse from Landlords in Lagos and also to check their excesses.That notwithstanding,it is trite that vigilantibus non domientibus jura subveniut meaning equity aids the vigilant and not the indolent.if a man sleeps on his right there is nothing the law can do
for further enquiry or clarification contact lagoslawgurus@gmail.com,akinolaesq@yahoo.com or +2348032493960

Many thanks sir,

May I humbly ask how do we determine arbitrariness? I mean if a tenant is paying the sum of N450, 000 for a 3 bedroom apartment in Oke-Ira, Ogba for example and the landlord increases by N50, 000, will you say it is arbitrary?

In other climes, at least I know of Canada, rent review is highly regulated, such regulations usually are based on data and statistical analyses of rents of similar apartment with similar amenities. Do we have that kind of system in Nigeria or at best in Lagos?

It would be a great challenge enforcing that section of the Law.

henrijin: Please, can anyone give me details of the tax implications of a newly-formed limited liability company? TIN has already being gotten. What about the payments and TCC? I'll appreciate answers.

Sir,

These days here on Nairaland, I can conveniently say that ' there is hardly any question you can ask that has not been adequately treated by capable people'.

There is a dialogue box for searches most especially above the threads on front page or any other thread, just type what you are looking for, more so, if it has to do with services et al and not commodity. Trust me, the Nairaland search engine will bring you answers instantly.

katemi: i need a serious whiteboard animator.

i need to create some video ads for my upcoming website.

send the videos you have done and your rates.

my email is alexmuiaATyahooDOTcom

I am not one but I know someone who can do a good job for you. Please reach him @ ayoelegbaATyahooDOTcom.

ok

Please break it down. Is it that you have money and you cannot find an office space in the location or you are looking for a free office space?

If the former is the case then there are office spaces in the local airport, just walk to the BDC village and if you have too much money, MMA2 is the best place. You could also get partitioned spaces around Oluwaleimu, Off Toyin, Unity axis etc.

Wishing you all the best.

page9: Well, i do know that lawyers will need to survive and it is only natural that most if not all lawyers will recommend that you go through lawyers to do your Trade Mark or Company registrations as the case may be.

The choice is yours to decide. The truth of the matter is that you can do both trademark and company registrations(enterprise &limited) yourself with a little help from the officials of these govt agencies.

I did my first company registration through a lawyer friend @ N150k way back in 2001 and Trade mark with d same lawyer for 60k in also in 2001.

Now, in 2012 with the help of ''friends'' who are officials of both agencies, i did same company registration for N50k! and trademark for 30k. Infact, trademark just reviewed the fees from 17k to 25k, the official amount to pay to bank out of the 17k used to be 7k! The rest was for settlement.

Now, i don't know the official fees but i know trademark can be done with less 35k or less. The truth is, the lawyers also depend on d same officials. An if you have good contacts in the agencies, you can monitor the process until the certificate is out.

At the end of the day, the choice is yours. On court cases over trademark, there are cases concerning trademarks registered by lawyers too. I am an industrialist and i do not engage in trademark business but we need to demystify all these to enlighten the public.

I probably won't pay what i paid in 2001 if i had the information i have now, then.

Many thanks for this insightful post. I quite agree with you, I mean Why pay a lawyer/professional a huge sum of money when you could do it yourself or use an in-house person? These are services you can conveniently complete online in other climes.
But please let me add this; when you pay a lawyer/professional for services you can possibly do yourself, you are taking off the stress involved in that line of services off your neck. As for people in-house, lawyer use them with PR to assist in speeding up the process and not necessarily to do the work. Let us look at company registration, as a staff of CAC you are not expected to do personal work, if you do and you are caught, disciplinary measures would be taken against you and such work would probably be kept in view. Although, it is the order of the day in most government agencies but the truth is " if you are caught" you will pay dearly as it is against Civil Service Regulation. In this case, lawyers would have completed all the necessary paper work, submit/file and ask the staff member to help follow up, this applies to the TM issue as well. So please "don't get it twisted" like D'banj would say.

To top it off, a professional can charge any amount for any service rendered to you as long it is separated from statutory fees.
Without trying to overdo it, even if someone pays a huge/questionable sum into your account, if you can claim with documents that it is professional fees, that would be the end of such inquiry. The point here is that no Law regulates Professional fees in Nigeria, people charge based on standing and years of experience and professional fees are not subjected to inquiry.

Many thanks.

Afam4eva: [size=14pt]It didn't start with Tinubu or Fashola's administration. Lagos has always been ahead of other states infrastructurally, so there's no contest there. What the OP is just trying to say is that the achievements of the present government is overbloated as people are fed with pictures of projects from a few highbrow areas whereas most parts of Lagos especially on the mainland look like shanties. A lot of roads are bad, very few have been paid attention to. One road that pains me personally is the road that links Ogba to Adeniyi Jones, Ikeja. For so many years the construction that never constructs has been lingering and the state government is paying no attention.[/size]

Please verify from people resident in that area, I presume workers (labour) around Acme/Ogba/Jones would have some info too. I learnt the earlier contractor was mobilised and he crossed to yonder. There is a new contractor on site now and work has reached 85% completion. You may please verify this and report to the house.
Many thanks.

kudos to you guys for the "celebrity" pix you guys are giving us without having to pay.
Still waiting for the personal pix with our president, Obama, Michelle, Bush and all other world leaders by Nlanders.
Many thanks.

short notes on idea protection.

1. trademark- to protect name or brand or logo from being stolen
2. copyright- to protect book, music, art work from being stolen
3. patent- to protect an idea or invention. The invention could be yours originally or you are improving on someone's idea
4. design - used to protect industrial design et al.

1, 3 & 4 are done at Trade Marks office while the Nigerian Copyright Commission is saddled with the task of registering 2.

locate under which heading your idea would be protected.

@loudmedia,

Please check my post in your company registration thread. SCUML has nothing do with EFCC per se, it is a creation of an Act arising from the amended anti-money laundering Act. SCUML is working under the Trade and Investment Ministry with the collaboration of CBN, who in turn issues a regulation that no Designated Non- Financial Institutions shall open or maintain a bank account until such DFNI produces a certificate of registration from SCUML. In compliance with CBN directive, banks began implementation of the SCUML certificate of registration on February 1, 2013.

The part that relates to EFCC is that banks are mandated to report any transaction above N10m to the EFCC. This one is not new, any banker or anyone who has been involved in heavy money transaction in bank would attest that this particular regulation has been in existence for years. Your picture would be taken, information about you and the transaction would be sent to NFIU which was an arm of EFCC or so. It used to be N5m on individual, N10m on corporate organizations and foreign transfer above 10k USD per day.

Also, since the anti- money laundering law is an Act of National Assembly, it is expected that any violation thereof shall be prosecuted by the EFCC.

sunnyolads1: I don't realy get what exactly you want because Clearing and Forwarding is a job,you learn it not register as a clearing and forwarding agent.Then,obtaining Customs clearing and forwarding licence is another thing on its own.You can start learning clearing and forwading job without having your own Custom Licence,you start with those that have. Getting the Customs Licence for Clearing and Forwarding is not that easy or simple because it involves some process before you can be issued Nigeria Customs licence agent.This will cost you money because your statement of account,CAC certificate will be requested for during the process. So therefore you can start learning d job first with those that have Licence already or I you are ready to spend the money then you can go ahead for the licence now.it will be ready within few months.Need assistance call me-08036614668.

On point sir.

keepingmum: I am a nigerian citizen however i have been resident abroad for a while. I do need the account as i intend to use it as a savings pot for when i eventually relocate to nigeria. its just frustrating that the banking system is designed to be difficult for account opening.

Hi,

You need to understand that our banks are doing well but not at the rate commensurable with banks out there. If you are genuinely planning to open a savings account in Nigeria without necessarily flying in, I think it is possible. You can open a savings account through a 3rd party, it could be your lawyer or relative.

Just fill all the forms, attach utility bill of a Nigerian address and the opening balance, passport photograph, your Nigerian Id etc. It is done.

You can now begin to transfer money into your account from wherever you are.

I think it would be easier with Gt Bank.

FrontPageLawyer: Yes it is called SCUML, you can also google it. The form is included in the corporate account opening form.

@ Frontpagelawyer,

Many thanks for the comment. SCUML (Special Unit Against Money Laundering) is a unit carrying into force a regulation by CBN introduced last year to check money laundering. It is in collaboration with the Ministry of Trade and Investment, I think Ministry of Commerce is involved too. It is required of non- financial institutions to get certificate of registration with them before account opening, existing account holder under these category are not exempted.

Although, it is observed that the regulation was targeted at real estate, looking at the billions that exchange hands in that sectors without any formal regulation but the collaborator agencies have said that it is to prevent money laundering in non-financial institutions.

Non- financial institutions according to them are; law firms, real estate firms, hospitals, architectural firms, accounting firms, private businesses etc. The regulation formally commenced in February 2013.

The registration is in addition to TIN which is a collaboration between CBN and FIRS.

For easy of accessiblity, I think they have desks inside CAC. I have seen their desk in CAC Lagos.

Apart from these, banks are also to report any transaction above N10m to EFCC, it used to be NIFU.

So many agencies. hmm.

@iphie25

Many thanks for the apt observation. Many people go to government agencies' website and begin to paste the content here or advise users to go try them out. It may work out there but in Nigeria it doesn't work that way.

@@arbitrage

There are one thousand and one agencies that a foreigner would have to satisfy before he/she can commence business in Nigeria. As a foreigner, you don't want to heed all those stuffs of 48 hours, trust me. What you need to do is to instruct a lawyer or other CAC accredited agents.

Generally, as a foreigner, you will have cause to deal with Corporate Affairs Commission, Federal Inland Revenue Service, Nigerian Investment Promotion Council, Nigerian Immigration Service, Ministry of Internal Affairs, in addition to these, if you are involved in Technology, you will need permit from Notap's office for technology transfer, if you are involved in Telecoms, you know NCC is a must for you, if you are involved in oil and gas, DPR is a must, if you are involved in consumable/drug NAFDAC is a must, other products, you must register with SON through intertek. If you would need to bring in capital/ repatriate funds like MTN, you must register with CBN, if you want to go into shipping, you cannot do without NIMASA and so on.

The 'good'side of it is that all these registrations (about 90%) must be done before you commence business in Nigeria.


Now back to CAC, to commence business in Nigeria as a foreigner, your minimum share capital is 10 million, that also depends on who is registering for you.

Noteworthy is the fact that, CAC would not register a foreign company without having met the expatriate quota requirement, although, NIPC says it has a desk where some of these requirements are accelerated.

Also, if you are going into shipping, 25 million share capital, aviation- 500 million share capital for domestic and 1b share capital for international.

There is also the issue of Form CAC 4 which is meant to be signed on oath by lawyers or accredited agents of CAC.

In the light of the above, may I humbly inform you that what you read and regurgitated above may not be feasible.

Many thanks.

DLER: Sequel †̥ your request,I have at abule egba 1,600Sqm along the major road, for 70M with c of OooooOOoº°˚
Thanks and your immediate response will be highly appreciated
Onadeko Samson
08030432274
Onadeyinka@yahoo.com
:270494FB

Many thanks sir. I will send you a mail shortly.

Hi all,
We require for purchase 1, 200 square metres on a major, busy and tarred road in the following locations:
Ogba, Ojodu/ Berger, Agege, New Oko Oba, Abule Egba, Iju Road, Agege Motor Road, Lagos/Abeokuta Expressway from the Mushin end to toll gate.
Please you could post whatever you have here or mail to kleandenation@yahoo.ca.
Many thanks.

oshobar: Pls there's no Tankfarm for lease in Lagos for 4m. Except your Client wants a jetty and develop it to a Tankfarm. The least you'll get in Lagos is at Kirikiri, Apapa for 10m/asking. Documents are available for scrutiny.

Best Regards,
Babs Realty
08107024162

Please endeavour to read very well whatever is before you so as to avoid putting pen to paper when in actual fact, such document is against your interest.

The original poster posted list of tank farms with the least going for about N10b- all for sale. I exclaimed for being unable to find any lower than that or at least for N4b. He asked me if I was searching for tank farm in the range of the latter amount; I answered in the affirmative.

The original poster did not mention lease or N4m neither did I.
Thank you.

esedadon: Are you searching for a tank farm worth 4 billion ?

Very well please.

No be small thing oh. I have gone through all the Tank farm posts on NL, it means N4b cannot buy Tank farm in Lagos.

Bros no be small thing oh! You mean N4b cannot buy a farm tank in Apapa now?

Smile4mee01: i wld like to know if my 2 children both under 5 yrs can be directors in my company. And if my wife who is a foreginer can be a director of a LTD compnay.

Kindly advice

Your children cannot be directors in your company until they attain teenage years. In those days, we used to squeeze in names of minors as directors. But as early as January this year, CAC has devised a new rules by asking for directors to submit means of identification (national ID, drivers' licence, international passport and lately voters ID).

As for your wife, a foreigner, you know by marriage, your wife should become a Nigerian and so She would not be addressed as a foreigner. However, if that does not work, a fast way is to use her foreign address, with that you would not have issues with CAC. For more you could holla me at kleandenation@yahoo.ca.

Please are the road network better now?

@ poster, well you did not give us your e- mail address or phone number. It would be easier for people to reach through those avenues. Anyway, subject to your use I have a tenement building on over 760 square metres at Pen Cinema Agege.
For further information you could please call me on 08033061606.

Hi,

I have a building on over 700 square metres on the road and close to pen cinema round about. Just three buildings away from the new Fidelity Bank, Pen Cinema Branch.

You can reach me on 08033061606 for inspection.

@ poster, Topsy1971 is correct. Although, I have been involved in transaction like this and the lawyers on the other side relied on customary law to transfer interest in the land of a deceased (the Supreme Court has in plethora of authorities held that you cannot do so without a will or letter of administration but some lawyers still look for loopholes to support their activities in this area). I will therefore advise that the siblings resident in the property should be vigilant. If the effort to sell persist, they should approach the court.