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I have been summoned by your incantations.

The OP seems to be admitting that Islam is a man-made religion.

msmon:
Only a sensible man will understand what Omar El Bashir has said. Islam is truly under attack and I stand to be challenged that war and terrorism is peculiar in Islamic state as a result of the whitemen motive to eradicate islam.

No 'true' muslim will kill another man because we are all brothers if not in faith but in humanity. We are all created human before we end becoming, muslim, christian, atheist, pagan e.t.c.

You may have to do more findings on the picture I attached below.

May peace be upon you!

And No True Christian has ever committed a crime! Otherwise they aren't Christian! And No True Atheist would even harm anything, otherwise they aren't a True Atheist! blah blah blah

And don't give me this crap about the white man trying to eliminate Islam, if Islam were a peaceful religion, then Islamic extremists would be extremely peaceful people! But this is not the case. Islam is going to eliminate itself.

If CIA guys can go to Muslims and say that their religion demands suicide bombings and massacres, then there must be some verses in the Quran and Hadith that they can point to and say that this is what Allah wants. Why else would you blow yourself up if not out of belief in some afterlife reward?

Bashir offers zero evidence.

OP, there is no use getting angry at something that does not exist.

lightoftruth:
Hope you read my last statement .

May be we are saying the same thing.
Are you suggesting that the world will be a better place without religion ?.

Yes.

lightoftruth:
My humble suggestion is that both religion should declare war against each other (muslims vs christians ) the side that wins should exterminate, wipe the other off the face of earth and make it a law punishable by death to practice the religion of the side that lost.


We all are just deceiving our selves by practicing any form of religion .

That won't change anything, because the winners will divide into different sects (sunni vs. shia; protestant vs catholic) and eventually start fighting again.

Papist:
Are you one of those who think that atheists are more intelligent and open minded that theists?

No and no, nothing unites us except a lack of belief in god. Look at my past posts and see if you find me boasting about the intelligence and open-mindedness of atheists.

I would venture that atheists are more skeptical about unsupported claims than theists are (because that's why most of us left religion in the first place.

AllNaijaBlogger:
It is good you confessed. The way you atheists normally bash christians and muslims as if you are better- now the shoe is on the other foot.

I generally bash religion itself, not so much the followers unless they engage in oppression or acts of violence in the name of said religion.

I will continue to bash organized religion, as I think it's a pile of nonsense created to control people.

I'm an atheist. It was only a matter of time before something like this happened, given the millions of atheists in the world (though the murder may have been about a parking space and not so much just about religion). Being an atheist does not guarantee good, kind, decent conduct from someone. In fact, it doesn't necessarily say anything about someone's personality. There is no atheist code to live by. No holy book of atheism calls for us to wage war until everyone accepts our rule. We are not promised virgins for dying in the cause of atheism.

I'm inclined to say that this is more of a rare incident than a pattern. Now, if atheist groups start forming in different countries with the goal of terrorizing a population through suicide bombs, random attacks, abductions of civilians, and school massacres, all in the hopes of creating an atheist nation, then I will be worried about what atheism means. Until then this is an isolated occurrence.

Regardless of motive this was a terrible act and I feel for the families like I feel for the families of those killed in other terrorist attacks. May the killer suffer the same fate as Boko Haram bastards.

harbibi:
Two babies were in a mother’s womb. One asked the other: “Do you think there's life after delivery?”

The other answered, “Why, yes, of course. There has got to be something after delivery. Perhaps we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later.”

“Nonsense” said the first. “There is no life after delivery. What kind of life would that be?”

The second replied, “I don’t know, but there will be more light than here. Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths. Maybe we will have other senses that we can’t comprehend right now.”

The first snorted, “That is absurd. Walking is impossible. And eating with our mouths? Ridiculous! The umbilical cord supplies nutrition and everything we need. But the umbilical cord is so short. Life after delivery is to be logically excluded.”

The second insisted, “Well I think there is something and maybe it’s different than it is here. Maybe we won’t need this physical cord anymore.”

The first replied, “That's silly. If there is life, then why has no one ever come back from there? Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. It takes us nowhere.”

“Well, I don’t know,” answered the second, “but certainly we will meet Mother and she will take care of us.”

The first laughed “Mother? You actually believe in Mother? That’s moronic. If Mother exists then where is She now?”

The second replied, “She is all around us. We are surrounded by her. We are of Her. It is in Her that we live. Without Her our world would not and could not exist.”

Said the first: “Well I don’t see Her, so it is only logical that She doesn’t exist.”

To which the second responded, “Sometimes, when it's quiet and I focus and really listen, I can perceive Her presence, and I can hear Her loving voice singing over us from above.”

--- written in 2012 by Czech psychiatrist Jirina Prekop MD, who authored Erstgeborene and has co-authored Auf Schatzsuche bei unseren Kindern

And so does their mother burn them when they are born because they questioned her existence? That would be the appropriate analogy.

AnusOdourInhaler:
Hell Yeah! Just a moniker... Don't judge book by it's cover

Do you go on reddit? Because this is exactly the kind of username I see on that site (or worse).

Abuamam:
Bro, I believe the Taenia Solium (tapeworm) disease you are referring to is 'Cysticercosis'. It is extremely difficult to cure and some forms of Neurocysticercosis often lead to seizures and related symptoms; and may require surgical intervention to remove the cysts. This disease is unique to the tapeworm found in pigs.
One reason why pigs are unhealthier is that they possess very similar physiology and anatomy to humans, raising the risks of cross over and shared infections; such as H1N1 flu virus and Hepatitis E virus.
It is not only eating pork, but also living in close quarters and rearing them; that may put persons at risk of these diseases.

People who live in cultures where pork is eaten live longer on average than the people in the cultures where they don't eat pork (Japan, Denmark, Sweden, France, are examples of such countries).

Men will also have a permanent erec.tion in heaven.

Redlyn:
But belief is probably the cheaper option.

Depends on which church you go to!

My life is just fine as an atheist. Adding religion could only make it worse.

BABAAGBALABA:
if d hadith is unreliable,wat about d bible ,bible was never d world of GOD,Jesus did not even know about d bible ,yet u call it ur holy book,d bible was created by catholics ,u call catholics idol worshippers, guys like u neva have time to think about ur religion ,only to go to anti islam websites just to abuse and insult others people religion ,i just pity many of una

I'm an atheist. The Bible is the same as the Quran, mostly just made-up stories

truthman2012:
The quran is said to contain only the words of allah, yet it says muslims should obey Muhammamad. Where do they find Muhammad's words if hadiths are unreliable?

They think that certain hadith are reliable. I do not.

A man around which a religion was built. Maybe he claimed to be a prophet. Probably was a minor warlord as well.

truthman2012:
I think this affords the muslims the opportunity to tell why they believe in Muhammad as a prophet.

Trust me, I don't believe Muhammad was a prophet. If the hadiths about him are true then I don't see why anyone would think he was a prophet.

truthman2012:
Since you don't know much about Muhammad, you are not in the position to comment. The hadiths are his words and deed, which now form islamic teachings.

I know a lot about Muhammad and I am in a position to comment. The hadiths are unreliable, despite the work put into them by Bukhari and Muslim and others. Stories can change rapidly in 200 years; they can even change rapidly in a day! Historians do not regard 200 years of word of mouth to be reliable.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tciBru32oDU

I don't hate Muhammad. We don't even know much about him. The hadiths were all written down 200 years after his death, which means that a huge number of them were fabricated. I'm not even convinced he composed the Quran. I personally believe, that, like Jesus, he was pretty much a normal person but whose followers made him into something that he was not, and that his followers were the primary authors of the Quran. In other words, Islam and Christianity are a product not of prophets or sons of god, but rather a group of people who were motivated to create a new religion and created myths around Muhammad and Jesus (who were neither prophets nor a son of god) with which to impress naive people into joining the religion.

sinequanon:
"Casual" allows that you consistently and faithfully adhere to some of the doctrines of a faith, but not others. It need have nothing to do with time or being part-time.

There is no need to evoke any slur to make your argument. It doesn't make it more logical.

My question is, are you saying that these "liars" are therefore atheists?

You seem to be the one evading the questions.

I think "cherry picking" is a more accurate way of describing part-time religious people. I much prefer them to fundamentalists.

holatin:
That if anyone killed a person not in
retaliation of murder, or to spread corruption
in the land – it would be as if he killed all
mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would
be as if he saved the life of all mankind.

The verse states that whoever kills a soul without a
just cause such as in legal punishment for murder or
for causing corruption on earth, then it will be as if
he has killed all mankind because there is no
difference between one life and another.
Allah said:
ﻭَﻣَﻦْ ﺃَﺣْﻴَـﻬَﺎ
If anyone saved a life,
This means by preventing its blood from being shed
and believing in its sanctity, then all people will have
been saved from him, therefore:
ﻓَﻜَﺄَﻧَّﻤَﺎ ﺃَﺣْﻴَﺎ ﺍﻟﻨَّﺎﺱَ ﺟَﻤِﻴﻌﺎً
It would be as if he saved the life of all
mankind.

This is a nice quote, but there are a couple of problems with this. Shekau will simply claim that the people living there are not "Islamic" enough and therefore are 'spreading corruption in the land" and therefore deserving of death.

Second, the very first part of the verse (which was left out) says that God told this to the Jews. It does not instruct the Muslims to do this. Shekau can simply claim that this does not apply to Muslims.

By the way this quote originally appeared in the Jewish Talmud: "He who saves one life, saves the world entire". It does not come from a prophet and was never considered the word of God. So the Quran is mistaken when it says that this quote originally came from god himself, because it was simply written by a Jewish commentator.

No. Satan is part of the same fairy tale as Yahweh.

Abuamam:
In your dreams...

Muslims love him more than their fathers or mothers. All these calumnies you guys post, only serve to help us seek to learn more about the greatness of the prophet (saw). In fact, I have been buying up more books on Islamic history since I joined NL and what I have learnt about his life makes me love him more. Thank you.

I've also read a lot about Muhammad and it makes me wonder why anyone would regard him as a prophet.

Mavrick2012:
sometimes ago a christian in america said when he died he saw allah.
do you bliv him?

Not at all. There are many people who claim to be Jesus. I don't believe them either. They have mental problems.

Unbias:
If after death I discover God never existed, then I would have nothing to loose. That means I'm making a better bet on my belief than atheists.

If a God (Yaweh) exists as we believe, then don't expect any kind reward for not believing in him while you live.

Sounds like Yahweh is evil. All he has to do is show himself to me and I will believe.

Unbias:
1. I would rather live fearing FATHER GOD ALMIGHTY to find out He doesn’t exist than to find out He exists after A LIFE OF MY WILL, and be told No! son, you didn’t get it right - Modified after NateSoldier of FATHERAL

And when you die, what if you see Olodumare instead, or your angry forgotten ancestors? What will you do? Everyone makes a bet on their beliefs (or lack of).

What if a god exists and he rewards the atheists for taking a rational approach to reality, and he punishes the people who follow other people (like Jesus and Muhammad)

Boko Haram exists. Therefore, there is no god.

I am currently at St. Mattress, which is a chapel conveniently located in my house. Very comfortable.