₦airaland Forum

KnowAll:
I find that very funny, but in life everyman has to carry his own cross, u can interprete it the way u like.

KnowAll:
Insisting in miliatary palance are the early signs of resentment and mutiny, no military that is what is salt will treat such act with a kids glove except of course a rag-tag army.

Ogundipe another relic from the colonial era,  might actually decline the offer to assume the post of Supreme commander, he knowing that he will be lucky to outlive or break Ironsi's tenure of office. Hence the mute stance's of Ogundipe.

IYA NGBALI:
ok wots d way out

IYA NGBALI:
enough of all these arguements they wont lead us to anywhere rather it would create more enemities amongst us[b].WHAT IS THE WAY FOWARD,SHOULD WE STICK TOGETHER OR SHOULD WE SPLIT?IF YES HOW DO WE GO ABOUT IT?[/b]

KnowAll:
That is your personal view, there would have being no need for Aburi if Ojukwu was operating on the same frequency as the others, like I said earlier on Kastina has spoken for all.

KnowAll:
You have people here lionizing men of flawed character who signed agreements knowing fully well that they did not intend to honor them! Honestly, Nigeria's path into the future  is so dark because the mafiosi have seized the space since Aburi. We can't wish away this missed opportunity.

The only men of flawed and questionable character in the 60's were your tribal folks in no other person than Nzeogwu and his motley crew of ameteur revolutionaries  they started the ball rolling in Jan 1966, why would Katsina trust Ojukwu when the Sarduna of Sokoto a direct descendant of Uthman dan fodio has been murdered in cold blood, bludgeoned to death in the dead of the night.  

defemz:
Hausa, Yoruba Ibo or Ijaw, every tribe has its own problems. I often read with keen interest how guys on this forum try desperately to justify his or her tribe.This is a futile war that can not be won. Let me say this, the thoughts in the heart of man is inherently evil, full of hate and perversion. Looking at the naked hatred and loath with which guys attack each others tribes here, you will agree this easily dwarf the hatred that motivated Boko Haram killings.
Let me give us an idea of a good tribe and a good man. This a man who is willing to accept and tolerate other people of different tribes and inclination knowing full well that he himself is imperfect, No one is. A man with a heart of love, a heart that sees beyond tribe, knowing a tribe to be just a group of people who accept similar norms and idioycracies. An average Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa Ijaw etc is not a good man. A good Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo is a man who has met God and clearly sees through his eyes.
I am an Engineer and a Yoruba man. My experience while at work in the east is enough reason for me to brandish all Igbos as bad. But no, i could have had similar experience if i were in any other parts of Nigeria. Using my ugly experience in the east to generalize that all Igbo are bad would be fundamentally wrong.

And for the information of those who desperately want Nigeria seperated, i assure you it will not solve any problem. It would definitely be the beginning of another myriads of problems. If we cannot tolerate ourselves as Nigerians, i know it would be difficult to tolerate one another as either Yoruba, Hausa or Igbo when we split. Maybe we have all forgotten that no tribe in Nigeria is ethnically monolithic, therein lies the problem.It is like in Marriage, where some people seek divorce as the only way out. If the man or woman marries another partner without tolerance, he/she would soon be filing for another divorce. Love, patience and tolerance is key. But no Igbo, Yoruba or Hausa man can exhibit these without a personal encounter with God, the source of all love.

SapeleGuy:
A call for military intervention is an admission of defeat and a leap from the frying pan into the raging inferno. Shuwa, Adekunle & Mohammed to name just three from the 60's have been variously accused of all sorts of atrocities. The coups, counter coups and the attendant loss of life are signs of unprofessionalism and indiscipline.
Rather than mourn Aburi, we should be asking where is the next opportunity? how can you use what you've got now to get what you want. That would be the politically pragmatic approach.

This combination of apathy / nostalgia is the reason that Alex Ekweme can be wheeled out with minimal protest. So when the question is asked 'what are the new generation doing?'

We can probably guess the answer,  they are  'mourning aburi'

KnowAll:
you must as well as accept fact that southern Nigerians, baring easterners, were unforgivable cowards and treacherous backstabbers.
There is no doubt that the entity called Nigeria today only happened and was forced because of the stance of people like Katsina, which to me was an eye opener reading the minutes of what transpired in that confrence, the others in the confrence needed somebody to take charged which Katsina did triumphantly, Ojukwu prior to Katsina's interjection was ruling the roost.

I will not look at the contribution of the other Southerners on that table as cowardice rather I will see it as camaraderie amongst friends, Katsina has spoken for all and that includes Gowon.

SapeleGuy:
The military had no business coming to power. They deserve zero credit for aburi, land use act or any of their other misguided policies. 
Please put your ethnic allegiances aside and recognise them for what they were - selfish, unpatriotic, egotistical, greedy rogues who have spoiled the country.

RichyBlacK:
Excellent piece by Max Siullon!

It is clear that the main problem with the 1967 Aburi Accord, which the Nigerian side agreed to, was that Ojukwu's level of understanding of constitutional matters was  superior to those of the delegates on the Nigerian side - all seven of them! This mismatch created a scenario whereby the Nigerian delegates signed off on documents they poorly understood and so were forced to renege on.

In today's Nigeria, we still see the same thing. Real understanding of constitutional matters, coherent arguments and logical explanations are never welcomed in political circles. What is embraced is cheap reasoning, idiocy and empty rhetoric with zero depth.

While the Aburi Accord was trashed by the Nigerian government, most Nigerians still suffer from the misfortune of that fateful misstep.

I applaud Ojukwu [/b]for making a clear, logically consistent and constitutionally coherent argument in Aburi, Ghana. Unfortunately, the accord was disregarded because of the greed of a few bad men!

KnowAll:
A lot of them in my opinion are simply embarrassed that such foresight and intelligence could come from Ojukwu, someone they have conveniently called names out of either envy, jealousy, hatred or ignorance.


You sure need to re – familiarise yourself with the Godfather movies again, Ojukwu fell like a park of cards at Major Katstina’s bait. Just like Tony the Godfather’s 1st son all gung-ho, without thinking it through he was cut down when he was set up by his brother-in law.

Ojukwu should have reasoned like Michael the Godfather’s second son, he knew had to take down his father’s enemies but went about it in a well planned and concise manner, one would expect with the intellect Ojukwu posses he could have eradicated every single person on that table within 18 months of smiling, shaking and patting their backs.

if Camparore of Burkina Faso can kill Thomas Sankara his mentor within 2 years of Sankara coming to power how much more Ojukwu.

Beaf:
What if a whole hostel of burden house students witnesses that sort of metamorphosis. Not just once, but several times in a single night? Would you say they were all crazy?

I have found it difficult to comment, because I do not know the true events at the accident in question.
But I and a whole hostel of other students witnessed something similar. I am a rational person who does not want to believe it. Also. I have played back the events of that night over and over in my mind, looking for an explanation, trying to deny it; but I fucking saw it happen over and over. I saw many things in that school.

There are things we cannot explain; indeed, anyone thinking otherwise is a fool.

Afam:
So, in your opinion people should continue to spread hate filled lies and others should come and point out the errors?

Is there anything wrong in telling the truth?

Must you lie to make your point?

Is truth no longer sacred?

Crude Oil:
Can a sane mammal ever rule Nigeria?

Ikengawo:
i must say from what i've heard and seen the east has the highest density of nice cities, but onitsha has to be the worst place in nigeria. hate it.

places i wouldn't be caught dead in in decending order
anything northern lol
onitsha!
benin city

mikeansy:
The gun shuts may have ended in 1970 but you can only read threads like these to know that some Nigerians are still prosecuting their war against the Igbos.

Ojukwu defended Igbos from Ethnic Cleansing and some folks come here to make the point that the fact that he did not make himself available to you guys to cut off his head and keep in your museum as a trophy makes him a coward. Well it has not happened and anybody who does not like it can go hang. Ojukwu will forever remain a legend amongst Igbos regardless of what the same people who were responsible for what Ojukwu stood against thinks.

It is unfortunate that folks who make so much noise about unity can not in the least bit understand how to achieve one, unity can not be achieved on your own terms and conditions alone without any compromise and respect for others. Unfortunately this country will continue to wobble so long as we continue to live in denial of our history.

This is largely responsible for the sorry state we are now in. There is only one victor in this drama the British and their allies in the west.

okunoba:
@naijaking1
"Araba or secession has been the war cry of Hausa leaders"

The Hausa`s or the Sarduna didn`t go to war because of it, they only voiced their desire 4 it, but Ojukwu went to war at the cost of over 2 million lives. Big difference.

@Uche2nna,
Aburi document is irrelevant in today`s Nigeria. what the country want`s is 4 people to do their job properly, if the state commissioners did their job properly, state governors did their job well, fed ministers did their job well, the president did his job well and the average Nigerian did his job well, the country would be developing, just like India and Brazil.

Aburi as more or less become an obsession 4 some people that want to go back to the Biafran war issues. They can`t let go of the pain of Biafra, rightly so too many lives was lost 4 it too be forgoten in such a short time, but the pain should be used positively 4 Nation building of our young country not to tear it apart like our parents did in the sixties.
Can we not learn from the mistakes of our parents.

naijaking1:
I apologize for the gory example I used to describe your choice of N/L ID, you certainly have a right to answer any name you chose.

duabba:
Tell me, I pray, why haven't the igbos been able to sustain a formidable political front in Nigeria? They rather scuttle their brothers ambitions and side with others (Nzeribe's Another Better Nigeria readily comes to mind) politics for little crumbs of bread. Whatever an igbo man does it is 80% for selfish reason. Whatever Ojukwu did was to save his own skin, even he knows it in his heart of hearts. It is sickening to hear igbos shouting that other tribes hate them especially when the see themselves as the best thing to happen to Nigeria. They once claimed to be from the lost tribes of Israel (hopefully, they are). What wouldn't they rant about. We have over 300 ethnicities in Nigeria, yet they make the loudest noise.

[b]We are all in the entity called Nigeria together. The earlier we join hands to make it work, the better![/b]PS: For those ethnic bashers, I hail from Edo State. Feel free to do your thingy!!

gowaga68:
One the leadership of the Best Minds well you are 100 % right they messed up.
but what i was sayin of the truth is your fellow Igbo man is tellin the truth and you are all tryin to eat him up. too bad.Nice to Know what else??

gowaga68:
You are wroung Man the North dont depend on the South or any  place during those time if you dont mind can u tell me lil of those resources cos we dont eat coal n i may not know what else then?
One the leadership of the Best Minds well you are 100 % right they messed up.
but what i was sayin of the truth is your fellow Igbo man is tellin the truth and you are all tryin to eat him up. too bad.Nice to Know what else??

ndu_chucks:
@naijaking; i no go respond to ya other post, na distraction wey no get use. i know say una no believe in freedom. if i like, my name go be nnamdi. wettin concern una with dat.

gowaga68:
PPL HERE DONT WANT TO SAY THE TRUTH IF ANY ONE SAYS THE TRUTH THEY DISOWN HIM OR HER
God Help Us.

ndu_chucks:
i no know say you be immature person. i no go stoop to ya level, just think well before you come here with false information. people like me go call you out.

learn how to disagree without being disagreable from people like naijaking.  at least him no dey urinate for body and throw tantrum when his points are challenged. ewu can bia