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I'm too scared to agree with the man

AkoEja:
Its not just about fighting ! Its about contributing your own quota in whatever way you can, and not keep complaining all the time that things are not right. For your information, i am already doing my bit, and I hope to do more. You need to love your country, that does not stop you from hating the leaders if they are bad.

How can I love my country when it has demonstrated hatred towards me and my kind through the years?  I would start loving my country when someone is held responsible for the murders which has been happening in Nigeria from independence to date. The country doesn't even need to appease me. It needs to appease the souls of 2 million people who were starved to death because they demanded freedom and justice. The country is serving a curse placed on it by the souls of the innocents lost in the past 49 years. You want to move forward, but you are determined not to correct your past. I don't participate in delusional optimism. Sorry dude!

I'm not really suprised. That's the typical Igbo discipline and focus. You don't sound Igbo, so thanks for selflessly acknowledging a great attribute. If other Nigerians appreciated this attribute, maybe the Igbo could have been deployed to pull Nigeria out of the mess.

AfroCynic:
Okay, Biafra will never happen, the sooner everyone realises this the better. I am tired of all the ethnocentric rancour this silly topic causes. Get used to it. I love all my Igbo peeps, especially the men, they are so sexy and strong.

Anyways, yeah, I love Naija, Let all hold hand and engage in menage et trois, lol.

But on a serious can we all just get along at best or at worse argue about relevant things?

Monkey love banana too! 

If you love us so much, why not let us go peacefully? We might reunite after 50 years like the EU. What's wrong with that?

I have often wondered why Nigerians systematically deconstructed most of the smartest British constructs in Nigeria. Not to eulogise British rule, but some of those constructs enabled them to successfully run Nigeria as one nation. Those constructs have now been supplanted by utopia through the years.

British constructs
(1) The former national anthem : "Nigeria we hail thee,,  though tribe and tongue may differ in brotherhood we stand"
(2) The 3 regions drawn along ethnic and socio-cultural homogeneity lines
(3) The parliamentary system of government which suits a rancorous political culture

Nigerian constructs
(1) National anthem: Arise o compatriots, Nigeria's call obey! (Sworn tribal enemies compatriots?, . Who obeys Nigeria's call?)
(2) 37 odd state or quasi-state structure (with weak economic bases always running to Abuja for hand-outs which leads to nationalised corruption)
(3) Presidential system (Ours is a caricature of a system carefully designed for people of one language and heritage with enough power devolved to states and local authorities)

I often get depressed when people on NL echo this utopian chant of "oh we are one, bla blah blahh", but in the dead hours of the night, they connive to sell off national assets to elements of their own tribe. They pick up arms when a non-indigene assumes a leadership position in their lands as happened at UNIBEN recently.

If Nigerians can't even admit their tribal proclivities, how can anyone be seriously talking about the existence of one nation?

Their cousins

PDP cancer.

A Non-Government Organisation, Nigeria Renewal Group, has called on President Umar Yar’Adua and the Inspector General of Police, Ogbonna Onovo, to quickly order the arrest of all those behind the massive use of guns and ammunitions in last week’s ward congresses of the Peoples Democratic Party in Anambra State .
The group in a statement issued yesterday in Awka, Anambra State, said that if the judiciary had not issued an order stopping the state congress scheduled to hold on October 2, the state would have witnessed far greater violence because the stakes are higher at the state level.
“Unless urgent and decisive steps are taken to end this escalating culture of Anambra electoral politics,” NRG asserted, “desperados will hijack the forthcoming vote, wasting a number of precious lives.” It observed that preliminary investigation has shown that the leading perpetrators of violence “are the same characters who have masterminded the long spell of violence in Anambra State since the restoration of democracy in 1999.”
http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=156030

We've seen this movie before. Same characters, same act! Who would save us from Nigeria 

At 49, too many pissed Nigerians!
Abeg show me my machine gun !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lof6XJ8b1SU

FL Gators:
Understand you?

rotfl can you even understand yourself?

I've never read anything from you that's[b] not anti tribalism[/b]. You think you're making sense with your posts, shouting up and down about yoruba this and yoruba that. It's about time you're realize that you're not only making a fool of yourself, you're also claiming the title "village fool".

ode oshi. . . .Na tribalism go kill your wonky ass. I only hope it happens soon enough.  

Oxymoronic!

Mgbeke! logging out on your ass!

FL Gators:
Brutality is as much worse as the akwa ibom evil cleansing gibberish going on over there.

Aint no one excusing any shit. Every reply on this thread has admitted the wrong in the House's act. Nobody is making up excuses or denying anything.

Maybe if you stick your head out of your asshole for once, you'll be able to see that.

Bitch leave Akwa Ibom out of this,k? For starters I'm not from there, but even Akwa Ibom-ites wouldn't tolerate this level of unfortunate thuggery, and androgenic cowardice!
May be if you wipe your stinking ass for once, you might get to smell less to understand me. F**king c*nt!

FL Gators:
Dude, why are you always bringing tribalism into everything.

I thought with age, one is suppose to gain common sense and intellectual understandings.

Even if an Igbo man was to become president, you think every shit happening in Naija Govt would immediately disappear?. What affects one place is going to affect your shitty ass too.

Illiterate pile of donkey ass. mtchewww

Doesn't still excuse your wierd culture. A fully grown man is being kicked around by a female political thug in yorubaland! Na wa o!  I have yet to see that anywhere in Igboland.
Cowardice is a special hallmark of the yoruba. Known fact! Learn to live with it bitch slowpoke!

Chei! Naija

sjeezy8 's spewing gibberish again in defense! You'll soon run out of excuses.  

But wait a minute, how can three grown men be kneeling down and slapped "upside the head" like kids? I just can't understand yoruba culture.

asha 80:
How Chris Uba and Clement Ibeto bought Anambra State PDP
Written by Sahara Reporters, New York
Thursday, 01 October 2009 06:10

Can't Chris Uba and his brother just be assasinated?

Folks, you see where we have arrived? Soon somebody will assasinate somebody and Anambra will turn into the wild wild west of the mid-60s and early 80s. The main question should be this: Who is behind Chris Uba? And don't tell me Chris Uba is stronger than even the Uga youths not to talk of Anambra youths or Anambra people. The question should be: Why is this guy so heavily protected by the federal security agencies? Is he an ex-official of any substance? Methinks that someone in Abuja is gradually sponsoring chaos in Anambra using an illiterate criminal, and ndigbo are completely powerless -that is if they continue to swallow the lies about Igbo disunity. That disunity myth is gradually being disproved by an unarmed highly organised group known as MASSOB. With time, all these nonsenses would be brought to an end. The days of the lies are coming to an end!

Beaf:
All traces of Arabic are off the Naira.

--Puts down petrol bomb, kicks an almajiri in the butt--

I just read this news about the Nigerian who is helping to build Iraqi high speed rail and it further reinforced my frustration with Nigeria and bolstered my belief in separation. This man tried for 18 months to sell a very simple idea to the federal government of Nigeria, but failed. He only tried for 2 months in a war ravaged Iraq (still grappling with leadership issues) but succeeded!

I have said it before and would repeat it here: Nigeria's assets are not underground (minerals). They are above ground (people). Why can't this country figure this out? Why is this country resolved to be backward and still refuses to let those who want to progress leave peacefully?
I know many Nigerian experts overseas (I mean real experts -engineers, architects, intellectual property lawyers, software scientists, specialist doctors and etc),who are ready to turn that country around in 10 years, but it would never happen in Nigeria, because if it happens, certain tribe might end up leading every critical sphere of Nigeria. But what is wrong with that, if things get to work? No, not in Nigeria! Even right here on NL, instead of people being angry at those who crippled Nigeria, they are here cursing out those who want to leave the intractable quagmire! Well, it has been 40 years after the war and it is not working!

If you can't let me actualize myself in Nigeria like the Nigerian Iraqi transportation engineer; then, allow me to leave peacefully. You've gat to chose one!

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5465440-146/story.csp

Where is na_so He escaped! Tomorrow is October 1, and we still don't have electricity (someone promised 10,000 megawatts by the end of the year). We are no where near that and I bet you that by December we would still be generating 2,500 megawatts for a population of 140 million! Let me tell you my friend, there is no visitor to Nigeria who wouldn't think that something is FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with Nigeria. Once you get out of the MMA and head out into the darkness of Lagos (in 21st century!), you would realize that there is a SERIOUS mass delusion or outright madness in Nigeria.
Some states have been working on the electricity problem, but the federal government wants them to channel their output to the NATIONAL GRID or was it NATIONAL[b] GREED[/b].
Some of us are watching helplessly while the politics of the south east -which used to be peaceful -gradually turns into the western nigerian style do-or-die politics. The situation is worsening daily, and I wouldn't be shocked if politicians in the east start killing themselves as in western nigeria-something previously alien to eastern nigerian politics- the nigeria cancer is spreading and creating this huge timebomb. The youths of Igboland should act now to stop this mad wind blowing into our lands. MASSOB should be doing that instead of appealing to deaf ears.

I think commentators have drifted off course on this topic. The issue is not an airport but an INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. Bi-Courtney never built any international airport. MMA2 is a DOMESTIC airport. Imo airport is a domestic airport. Enugu airport is a DOMESTIC airport (only international on paper due to politics of Igbo subjugation). Only the FEDERAL government of Nigeria designates and implements  international airports in Nigeria, which is part of why we are calling for secession. Every other region in Nigeria -including the most economically comatose like Maiduguri - has an INTERNATIONAL airport. People should stop being stupid here
South east can build an international airport if the federal government is ready to authorize the operation of one in the zone. We are not even complaining that all other international airports in Nigeria were built by the federal government. We don't even want to ask why south east should be different. Our angst is that even if we build one (as in the case of Imo), the federal government would not authorize its full operations. As long as they want to railroad every trafffic through Lagos or Kano, nothing can change. South south people may not even be thinking of it, but they are suffering the same fate of the lost Biafran war, which is why Port Harcourt and Calabar are just local airports in practice. Only Lagos ( south west nigeria) and Kano (northern nigeria) -two allies in the civil war- are deemed worthy of operating international airports. The rationale for designating an international airport in Nigeria is strategic and Nigeria is yet to accept ndigbo or eastern minorities as Nigerians, which is why we are advocating for Biafra!

babapupa:
not eve cookie?


The way I see it, one mans tribalist is another man's passionate patriot and concerned citizen.

We sometimes use the tribalism label to deflect and circumvent facts.

Your intelligence almost rises to mine here
Bottomline is that you hit the nail on the head. Hate to agree with my sworn enemy.

Nchara:
Nwanna,

what are you on about? Did Zik remove or not remove Eyo Ettah from his post? Given the state Nigeria is today, Awo's tribalism, was it also Zik's cup of coffee, would have led to different countries emanating from Nigeria. Isn't that what we are now all fighting for?

Bros I have to share some of your views here. Zik was just[b] a terrible politician [/b] -whether he removed Eyo Ita or not- he failed to see Nigeria the way he should have. If he did, the Eastern region wouldn't have lost Western Cameroon. He was too focused on "Nigeria" but failed to see that even Nigeria had essential building blocks, one of which was the East then. If he concentrated on the East, all the problems of subsequent years including losing english cameroon and the minorities of the East would not have happened. If he kept western cameroon, I doubt the war would have gone the way it did. He may not have done something deliberate to allienate those people, but the bottomline is that he was the de facto leader of the NCNC and he failed.

na_so:
I must confess that I am equally pained by the failure of the Nigerian experiment.

I however think my not agreeing with the seperation doctrine should not encourage snide comments like you seem to be making

I have found the task of compressing my thoughts on why being together is not really our problem rather intractable. However I make bold to say that for every reason why the seperation doctrine is advanced , there are stronger reasons why we should remain together.

Like I said ealier , the problem is not really with Nigeria but with Nigerians, hence I see these liability bearing traits in the average Nigerian soaring in the emergent fragemnts if/when we decide to part ways.

Simply tell me one advantage of seperation and I will tell you why we can achieve that now, even without seperation.

I await your response

If I could have Biafra in the East (even if only Igboland), Biafra will qualify for the world cup because there will be no quota system. Every position will be manned by the most talented player. In fact  our football league will be among the best in the world. If there was Biafra, we would not have lost Bakassi to Cameroun. We won't lose anything to Cameroun including soccer -(go and check the record of Nigeria teams against Camerounin teams -Iwuanyanwu, Enyimba, Heartlands, Rangers)- we hardly lose to Cameroun. If I could have Biafra, there will be real local policing -no single federal bullshiting police- real policing is local, night life will return! If there is Biafra, we won't have religiously organised murder
code named riots. If we have Biafra, most of our people in foreign countries would be home and busy working! No free meal for anybody! We will not be a big for nothing country like Pakistan, but a small and mighty country like South Korea, Singapore or Israel. These are things Nigeria can never be.

platinumnk:
Ha! If I could fly directly to Owerri u will rarely find me in Lagos

This quote captures the sentiment of most south easterners. If we really want that international airport at Enugu or Owerri, then we must be prepared to keep our eyes OPEN and fight whoever tries to sabotage it (because they would fight it!).  Believe me, not a few people are afraid of what that portends for their local economies. An international airport at Enugu is enough to deny Lagos of at least 60% of air traffic. It can also help move the economy eastwards, that's a fact! We must bear this in mind to enable us focus on the real saboteurs of that airport.

9ijaprince:
Has he decleared? On what party?

He is the AC candidate in Anambra. AC governors are good, at least they are not busy stealing money- Fashola(Lagos), Oshiomhole (Edo) and Amechi (Rivers).
Vote for Ngige though. I don't trust parties in Nigeria. I trust individuals. Ngige worked as a PDP governor in his time. So, I would follow him to his new party.

Again I'm not saying I forgot how he came to power, but is he the only leader to emerge through such flawed process in Nigeria's history? In fact our leaders almost all emerge that way. If all of them performed like this man, would anyone be talking about secession and breaking up the country? No of course! Those of us who call for separation are doing so because we believe that Nigeria is structured in such a way that makes it impossible for good leaders to emerge. For instance, we want the opportunity to choose anyone we want in next years election in Anambra, but watch how the election will be rigged again. So our chance of having a good governor next year is a toss up. Who in his right senses plans his future that way?
Do you know the odds of a rigged-in governor performing? I'd say one in a million! So, we need to identify these one-in-a-million human beings in Igboland, and saddle them with leadership responsibilities.

Kobojunkie:
***Shudders****


@Poster, don't you think that digging a bit deeper will help here, considering what we know of how politicians in the same country have been able to pull the wool over our eyes in the past with similar tactics? Not saying this man did not do a good thing, but come on?

Like I said in the post, I hardly endorse anyone in Nigeria for anything. However I had to do this to demonstrate that I am not a die hard separatist. I am an Igboman who feels trapped in the Nigerian quagmire, and I refuse to accept that everyone is equally responsible. You see, Ngige could have turned over the state coffers to the thugs in Anambra state and I assure you that he would still be the governor today. HE DIDN'T.
To me that is the bottomline. If that is not a true test of character, I wonder what is. He sacrificed his political opportunity for us. Believe me I'm doing this only out of love for my people. After I was home and saw first hand what Ngige did, I was convinced that there had not been any leader in Nigeria who did what this man did under the conditions he found himself. If we don't celebrate and encourage peeple like that, what right do we have to complain when the thieves ascend leadership positions in Igboland? My focus is really Igboland and I know that if Ngige was able to serve an 8 year term, Anambra would have been totally transformed.