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Christianity EtcRe: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by openmine(m): 12:31am On Aug 10, 2017
Pierocash:
Bro stop been misled by the devil,Bishop Oyedepo himself pays tithe ,paying tithe in church is not same as paying to ur pastor.[b] Men of God are custodians of God's treasures, what they do with it is no man's business.Are u the one that called them?
[/b]They are answerable to no man but God so stop asking what they do with tithe, that is left for God to question them if they misuse or embezle them.As long as i agree there are business men on the alter who called themselves to that business of collecting peoples money in the name of tithe and offering, but that does not make u discredit the commandment of tithing.If u have not been tithing b4 now, i encourage u to locate a bible believing church and start paying ur tithe frm today and watch how God wil make u a living wonder
shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked Whathuh?
Christianity EtcRe: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by openmine(m): 12:29am On Aug 10, 2017
I888:
How many tithes does Bill Gates pay? How many tithes does Mark Zuckerberg pay, Jack Ma, Richard Brandson, Donald Trump, Elon Musk...Oprah Winfrey, Micheal Jackson...?

I know you people like to equate tithing to success.

Same tithes that is paid to God's work is same tithe pastors will deep their hands into to buy expensive items while giving workers peanuts( work of God).

Why aren't these churches building vocational centers for members to acquire skills for free? Why? Why? Why?

Every program organised are designed to get more out of them...

I have no problem with a pastor being rich but there should a LIMIT. Yes, a LIMIT. Oyedepo's wealth is forking too much... damn too much for man whose wealth is in heaven according to the bible. That money is enough to build research and tech hubs.
Stop being sentimental and call a spade a spade.
Am even surprised with the assertion that most tithers are successful people...infact most of the tithers i know of are very poor and struggling financially....worse still is that they keep waiting for the so called "rain of blessings" as written in malachi.....Thats why most of them turn out to become atheists...No thanks to gullible ministers of the gospel!!
Christianity EtcRe: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by openmine(m): 12:23am On Aug 10, 2017
MrRhymes101:
Cost of running the church nko? Maybe it's just a charity organization.
The early christians or churches never made Use of tithes to run a gathering or assembly...A church doesn't need tithes to run a church....What you need is a mission statement where sacrificial love for the poor or weak is a priority,a very good financial plan backed up with prayers and that powerful,supersonic computer sitting comfortably on ur neck called brain!! cool cool
Christianity EtcRe: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by openmine(m): 12:15am On Aug 10, 2017
paschu:
Abraham's payment of tithe was recorded once in the entire old testament. This implies that he paid his tithe voluntarily and by God's leading - just like when he sacrificed Isaac. It was not compulsory. Tithe did not become compulsory until the conquest of Canaan and the formal institutionalization of the Levitical Order and Aaronic Priesthood.

This Levitical Order coupled with the Aaronic Priesthood, was put aside by the death and resurrection of Christ. So there is no more need for daily burnt offerings and animal sacrifices. No more need for the PROFESSIONAL priesthood. This is actually why Paul said that he would rather die working with his hands than depend solely on the Church for survival.

Thus I found it curious when you claimed that Tithe is meant for the Church. Can you please prove that assertion scripturally without going out of context?

Please note that I am not in anyway asking anyone to stop paying tithe. But please take this from me, and write it down somewhere. What the Pastor in the OP is doing is the future of the church. That is the ONLY WAY the Church can survive the coming global Anti-Christ movement and large scale uprising against ALL FORMS OF ORGANIZED RELIGION.

The KIND OF PRACTICAL SACRIFICIAL LOVE which this Pastor is proclaiming now is the Church's LONE ticket to survival in the coming years. And you can take that to the Bank.

One more thing: The Pastor made a profound statement when he said that he cannot teach people that they have to bring money to church BEFORE God can bless them.

Friend that's the root of the matter. The idea that you have to STRUGGLE to EARN God's blessings for yourself is the biggest favor the Church is doing the anti-Christ spirit. As times goes on, Science and humanistic advancement in knowledge will make most of these things easily accessible to ALL with little or zero efforts. This commonalization of the so called blessings will make the current teachings of the Organized Church lose its present appeal. In fact this is already happening. And this is what the anti-Christ will capitalize on. The only counter we have is the message of PRACTICAL LOVE (which the OP is proclaiming) and making sure that the Church people start using their minds and embracing real education.

Again, the only thing that will prevent the rich, weak or poor church members from embracing the lure of anti-Christ is a timely eradication of the spirit of Selfishness (which is the root of greed and every other evil) and prompt enthronement of the CULTURE OF PRACTICAL LOVE - just as the first disciples did. This is why Jesus said that the only way the world would know that He is with us is when we love each other the way he had loved us and died for us while we were still sinners.

The Church of the end time will congregate in tiny circles of influences at homes, work/market places and in the streets. It's not going to be at the cathedrals and huge auditoriums as usual.

Professional priesthood is already loosing credibility, soon it will lose influence.
Bro You said it all...U simply took the words out of my mouth....no need for any addition...Respect bro!!

Christianity EtcRe: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by openmine(m): 12:04am On Aug 10, 2017
When people don't understand or don't even read the scriptures at all,they fail to see the truth behind the
establishment of this unique assembly...This is a very typical example of how the early churches functioned...
No tithing but giving generously to help others who are in need(acts 4:32-35)....

But as expected,Gullible Ministers who can't live or operate without tithes from misled believers, will oppose such a unique
and scriptural practice or even mock the church with statements like "i hope the church stands the test of time"

May more churches like these spring up and watch how people will start trooping into such assembly.....
Mark my words....People are getting liberated from that "lie" that is being erroneously taught in church gatherings...

Very Soon,this church will become a pacesetter or better still a role model for other assemblies to emulate and follow....Very Soon!! smiley smiley smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by openmine(m): 11:28pm On Aug 09, 2017
“The Holy Spirit is leading us and we don’t want people to believe that they must bring offering to church before they are blessed, no. If I give offering in the church while a woman close to me is dying of hunger, what have I done? As a Christian, I should not allow that woman to die. The God who created the woman won’t be happy with me if I packaged an offering to the church while she is suffering,” the pastor said.

RomanceRe: My Boyfriend Is Mad At Me by openmine(m): 3:00am On Aug 09, 2017
Haba op...dat was too childish nah...don't know why some ladies always do dis esp to guys who have been faithful and loving....
if d op had succeeded,maybe a thread like "I caught my bf cheating on me with his ex" would have surfaced....
whether he accepts u or not,take this lesson with U so dat it doesn't happen again...smh
Christianity EtcRe: Tithe, Vow, And Seed Sowing. Which Is Most Effective In Drawing God's Blessings? by openmine(m): 3:06pm On Aug 08, 2017
folakemigeh:
Tithing has been a miracle for me ever since i began tithing.


Well. I made a vow to continue to pay my tithe if God should give me a job in that particular year..

Just exactly one month after i prayed and made the vow, i was called by the HR of one reputable company.

The rest is history
What would you say about people like me who didn't tithe but kept moving from grace to grace....glory to glory....?
A lady friend that i know is a devoted tither,yet her name wasn't on the list of those for a job in a well known company...
Yet some individuals who haven't tithed in their life before now were hired...
Ur tithe payment does not grant U access to God's blessing but your faith and trust in him does....
CrimeRe: Woman Charged For Raping A Pregnant Woman In Lagos by openmine(m): 11:43am On Aug 04, 2017
shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

PoliticsRe: Nnamdi Kanu Cancels Kaduna Visit. See Reactions by openmine(m): 8:14am On Aug 03, 2017
GeneralOjukwu:
Like Ojukwu. Like Kanu. Please, let's recap.

Part 1 - Huff & puff...chest-beating.


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Part 2 - Ab0ki response -

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Part 3 - World records are broken -


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The End - Audience response

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grin grin grin

Abeg which Olympic sprint record did Kanu break running away?

It's time for Nigeria / Biafra to challenge Usain Bolt. We would insist on "Ab0ki" instead of the start gun wink
grin grin grin grin

Christianity EtcRe: Be Enlightened, Tithe Was Not Christianity, Don't Pay Again by openmine(m): 4:21pm On Aug 01, 2017
petra1:
It's rather a kingdom principle . Same as tithes and offerings and prayers

Exodus 22:28
28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.


What about the scripture above . Is it for Jews



Abraham our father through whom God brought the revelation of tithe wasn't a Jew
"kingdom principle tithe" with zero scripture to substantiate it? grin grin grin
oga petra1 U have come again ohh... cheesy cheesy cheesy
PoliticsRe: Osinbajo Angrily Walks Babachir Lawal Out Of Office, Calls Him A Thief by openmine(m): 3:50pm On Jul 31, 2017
what baffles me is why such news is not on front page huh
CrimeRe: Badoo Members Kill Family Of 5 In Ikorodu (Graphic Photos) by openmine(m): 8:18pm On Jul 30, 2017
cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry
...just look at that innocent child....ohh why? cry cry cry cry
TravelRe: Tanker & Commercial Bus Collide In Lokoja, 10 Dead, 6 Injured (Graphic Pics) by openmine(m): 4:17pm On Jul 29, 2017
SoniaUK:
God have mercy. Thank God for safe trip today ooo. Some drivers can be so reckless and refuses to take simple corrections. Today while I was travelling the driver was speeding so recklessly and overtaking all the tanker drivers early this morning. But I kept telling him to take it slowly but he never listened to me instead he increased his speed with a very bonny and strong face. I was so scared altru the journey but thank God we all had a safe trip. Even tanker drivers where equally warning him. Some drivers are possess. Please always pray for drivers before you travel even though many of them that died today still prayed for journey mercy. God please we shall never die young in JESAUS NAME AMEN. I LOVE YOU JESUS CHRIST.
Thank God for your life ohh...were you the only one asking the driver to stop over speeding? what were the response or countenance of the other passengers?
please next time tell the driver before the journey to drive safely..dont also fail to engage other passengers to warn the driver in case he over-speeds....
Most of those driving are either influenced by drugs,emotional problems at home or just trying to make quick money....!
Once again thank God for journey mercies!!
PoliticsRe: Restructuring: The 1999 Constitution Should Be Scrapped - Bisi Akande by openmine(m): 1:25pm On Jul 26, 2017
madridguy:
Yes I stand with the removal of the 1999 PDP Constitution to milk the national treasury.
Same 1999 constitution Ur party APC is gladly and happily using right?
RomanceRe: How I Taught A Slay Queen A Lesson by openmine(m): 11:46am On Jul 24, 2017
I thought it was just coincidence till I noticed that she has been avoiding to give me her friends number cos my friend had been disturbing me for it. When asked how he would deal with the vulture, he said he would use pillow to cover her face or make her face the wall.
This part got me laughing so hard grin grin

TravelRe: Tanker And Bus Collide In Ife, Passengers Burnt To Death (Graphic Photos) by openmine(m): 10:04pm On Jul 23, 2017
Another day another avoidable accident
As usual the thread will be flooded with the usual RIP
And by tomorrow everyone forgets this incident ever happened
In the end no lessons learnt and no caution taken...
Same sad story every day...
One step Up and two steps down.... undecided
PoliticsRe: Rochas Okorocha Makes 305 Youth Millionaires by openmine(m): 9:43pm On Jul 22, 2017
A super recipe for 2019 cheesy cheesy

Christianity EtcRe: The Side Effects Of Not Paying Tithes by openmine(m): 4:36am On Jul 20, 2017
Goodlyhrt:
Brothers and Sisters the story of my life since I stopped paying my tithes since December of 2014 has been one of disapointment, constant job loss, hardluck, improvishness and want.


This is no joke o I've ignorantly suffered depression even close to ending my life cos of this issue even close to abandoning my faith cos I ve prayed and prayed and I feared God has abandoned me. Bad news here and there I stopped going to church long time ago and for three years now things has been so bad for me.


I was having discussions with my mum this night on this issue of fruitlessness then she asked me 'when last did you pay your tithe?' and that was my turning point, I broke down in thoughts and I've now found out that I've been my own stumbling block all these years, just this nite.


Oh! How many years I've wasted cos of disobidience, negligence to obey Gods instruction and sin.


My mum told me that its remedy is to start paying my tithe asap and I've made this decision even though I earn peanuts buh I wil endeavour to pay my tithes regurlarly
The problem you had then was that U stopped tithing without any reason whatsoever....hence when you saw disappointments,U and others thought it was as a result of not tithing...
Whatever you do,please have a conviction of it....
There are people who dont tithe and yet have no such disappointments like U did...
its all about what you believe in...

Romans 14:5
5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind.
In other words,what you believe becomes your reality!!
Nairaland GeneralRe: Couple Going Home From Work Die In Fatal Accident In Ekiti State. Graphic Photos by openmine(m): 2:39am On Jul 20, 2017
streetzdreamz:
maybe just maybe, but I heard he was avoiding a bike man who rode against traffic, the truck was stationary by the road side......but the fact is, it was caused by human error as rightly said.
Maybe or maybe not....but one thing is certain...the driver was totally reckless....and unfortunately,the passengers weren't complaining hence he kept over-speeding...Yeah we are definitely going to die one day but there are deaths that could have been avoided if only some individuals were a little bit careful!
TravelRe: China Constructs World's Longest Glass Walkway On A Mountain (Photos) by openmine(m): 11:29pm On Jul 19, 2017
Am so impressed...these guys keep doing amazing stuffs...and it makes U wonder if they have an extra brain kept some where...keep it Up!! wink wink
Nairaland GeneralRe: Couple Going Home From Work Die In Fatal Accident In Ekiti State. Graphic Photos by openmine(m): 11:23pm On Jul 19, 2017
Yet another fatal accident that could have been avoided had the driver being more careful and not think of him self as the boss of the road...now see what his recklessness has caused....smh angry angry
PhonesRe: Which Bank Mobile USSD Have You Used B4 That Works Fine by openmine(m): 8:49pm On Jul 19, 2017
GTBank any day any time smiley
CrimeRe: Two Nigerians Arrested In Cambodia For Trafficking 1 Kilo Of Cocaine (Photos) by openmine(m): 10:17am On Jul 18, 2017
malware:
These guys are not Nigerians, they're from the land of The Rising Crime. They want to develop Cambodia by fire by force.

Christianity EtcRe: When Did The Old Covenant End? - Paul Ellis by openmine(m): 9:40am On Jul 16, 2017
Bidobado:
Utter BS. Jesus himself said I did not come to CHANGE the LAW or the prophets, but come to fulfill them. The law is the word of God as stated in Joshua 1:8, 2nd Maccabees 3:48.so please stop peddling your pentecostal crap as if God is some software who updates himself based on human demands.
Hebrews 7:18-19
18 The old rule is now ended because it was weak and worthless. 19 The Law of Moses could not make anything perfect. But now a better hope has been given to us. And with that hope we can come near to God.


Hebrews 7:11-12
11 If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood—and indeed the law given to the people established that priesthood—why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? 12 For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also.

Galatians 3:23-25
23 Before the coming of this faith,[j] we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.


Ephesians 2:11-18
11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the
circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.

14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

19 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household,



Read the entire hebrews 8 and 9 to understand the total context of the abolition of the law of moses

But Just bear in mind that without the abolition of the law,you and i would never have been called believers...

without the abolition of the law,you will be physically circumcised to become a law abider..

without the abolition,you will still be referred to as an idol worshipper and much more....

If indeed the law of moses is still relevant,why are SOME LAWS only relevant and the rest thrown out?

Isnt the law of moses meant to be wholistic?

Do U still give offerings of the blood of goats and sheeps...cos thats what the law requires??

If indeed the law of moses is still relevant,then the death and Resurrection of christ was in vain...
Nairaland GeneralRe: Fatal Accident Along Ikot Ekpene-aba Road(Graphic Photos) by openmine(m): 10:39am On Jul 14, 2017
sharpwriter:
Teach us how to use social media as a weapon to better the country and demand for our rights? people are indeed willing to learn.
Its not as if we don't know how and where to use the social media as a weapon...its all about our priorities!

Firstly,social media is a powerful weapon that empowers individuals with a voice to air their displeasure or worries about how they are being governed or led!

If most of our time which we spent on social media platforms like instagram or facebook,liking and posting pictures all over, was used to discuss national issues that will positively affect our lives,we wud have been able to pressure our lazy leaders to come up with a lasting solution to so many recurring problems bedeviling nigeria....

How many of us can comment intensively on a very important issue in the nation same way we fight over davido or whizkid on twitter?

Imagine what our voice on social media could have done to pressure the presidency to tell us the true state of our ailing president...instead we spend time arguing about needless stuffs that wont make any telling impact on our society!

The sad truth is that even if we were given superhuman powers right now to help humanity,we may actually not know how to make good use of it or may even use it for our own selfish benefits....
Nairaland GeneralRe: Fatal Accident Along Ikot Ekpene-aba Road(Graphic Photos) by openmine(m):
Until we stop all these RIPs and start demanding that the right things must be done,

Until passengers start asking drivers not to over speed just because they want to get to their destination on time,

Until nigerians start using social media as a weapon to voice out their grieviances and displeasures about how
they are being ruled by their leaders...,

Until the youths of our failing nation decide to say enough is enough with the daily killings of their fellow
youths on our roads....

Until we realize that God is not our servant,and will not help you do what he’s
designed and empowered you to do for yourself....

Until we realise all these,We will keep typing RIPs which will do little or nothing to stop these
bloody and unavoidable accidents on our roads....

Enough of all these stale RIPs,do something about it....

The choice is Urs....!!
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PhonesRe: 7 Google Android Apps To Secure Your Android Phones From Virus by openmine(m): 8:13am On Jul 07, 2017
asumo12:
OP won't answer u ooo! But NQ suppose be number 1 on that list tho
yes ohh very powerful and rugged...
PhonesRe: 7 Google Android Apps To Secure Your Android Phones From Virus by openmine(m): 7:10am On Jul 07, 2017
wat about NQ Mobile Security & Antivirus huh
NYSCRe: Corper Dies In Accident On His Way To Imo State For PPA by openmine(m): 6:05pm On Jul 06, 2017
wink2015:
NYSC programme should be scrapped.

If Nigeria is restructured politically may be to 6 geo-political zones, the NYSC programme will die a natural death.

Although, the NYSC programme is not directly responsible for his death. However, it is exposing most of our graduates to the hazards of road accident as a result of travelling here and there.

Come to think of it, after the one year of national service, the school leaver or graduate so to speak is faced with unemployment as he or she can not find a lucrative job to keep body and soul together.

Our leaders are just deceiving us especially this socalled ONE NIGERIA system we find ourselves.
will it stop drivers from being reckless?
will that same guy/lady from travelling one day?
NYSC may be a failed project but its not an excuse to justify the recklessness of sum careless drivers who feel they are larger than life!!

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