₦airaland Forum

Tingotoe:
This Bola Tinubu seems to be getting an early momentum for a shot at the presidency o and it scares the sh**t out of me

Why are you scared sir?


Atiku is cuming.

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General Summary of the Atiku v Buhari supporters debate on social media.

Buhari has handled the Nigerian economy worse than any Nigerian leader in history.

— Atiku is a thief.

Buhari is a nepotist who prioritises his own over others.

— Atiku is a thief.

Buhari is not only a thief, he actively endorses theft in his government by having a cabinet of criminals and thieving politicians and also by endorsing people who have been caught red-handed stealing and terming them as honest people. His government has been wasteful and he and his family have lived above his means all through his administration.

— Ehn yes but Atiku is a thief.

Buhari is frail and has over the past few weeks showed us how much his physical and mental health is in a shocking state of deterioration.

— Hmmm. But, but Atiku is a thief.

Yes but his economy was in a much better state than the current economy.

— Ya. True. But Atiku is a thief.

Nigeria is currently going through an unprecedented level of poverty and social degradation due to the general incompetence of this government.

— Hmmm true. But Atiku is a thief.

Buhari is an ethnic bigot who actively watched his people slaughter others over grazing and did nothing to stop them even though he showed his iron hands against a less threatening IPOB protesters.

— Atiku is a thief.

How does this relate to the topic sir?

izombie:
They should take their presidency and fuuuuuuuck off. We want out. How difficult is it to understand? Nigeria is unfixable, why? Because a fixed nigeria means the hausa fulani will have nothing, they will never have any say in Nigeria any more. So the hausa fulani will never allow Nigeria to be fixed. We want out.

Okay, Jubril Al-Sudani will create Biafra for you.

Biafrarep:
There is a new school of thought, albeit championed by dishonest and degenerate people that Igbos shouldn't be allowed to rule Nigeria because their people are agitating for Biafra. This is not just a very lame excuse but also a wicked ploy by some selfish and wicked politicians who are hell-bent on foisting their personal ambitions on all Nigerians. They don't mind if such ambitions ends up destroying Nigeria in the long run provided they achieve their immediate gratification.

You didn't deny Fulanis presidency because of herdsmen killings. You didn't deny SS because of bunkering and militancy. But you want to deny Igbos presidency because some Igbos who are fed up with Nigeria want out. Anyways, it's up to them, this is probably their last chance to decide if truly they want Igbos to share a country with them.

Do Igbos have any reason to feel marginalized? The answer is a resounding YES! A civil war that ended in 1970 has continued to be used as excuse to punish Igbo generations till date.

Igbos have billions of dollars worth of assets all over of Nigeria and for them to put that aside to fight agitate for break up shows the extent they've been frustrated in Nigeria.

Black people naturally tend to be unreasonable when it matters most, and those in Nigeria are worse off. They believe more in brute force when intelligence and proactiveness could save them.

Denying Igbos the presidency will give IPOB the critical mass they need to achieve Biafra, underrate them at your own peril. Igbo elites are the ones sabotaging the push for Biafra because they feel that with patience, Igbos can be fully reintegrated in Nigeria. So, they try to reign in the younger generation of Igbos who have given up on Nigeria.

Now, 2023 is the litmus test. It is going to be a make or break year in the annals of Nigeria. This country is already too fragmented and weak to withstand a collective push by Igbos for Biafra and I believe that denying Igbos again in 2023 will be a vote for Biafra by all Nigerians.

Personally, my instincts yearn for Biafra while another voice tells me that Nigeria can still be saved. However, 2023 will 100% convince me. I also believe my sentiments are shared by majority of Igbos.

If you love Nigeria, you must support Igbo presidency now!

But Sen Anyim Pius Anyim has declared that he will join the presidential race.

DOTian:
IPOB propaganda? Honestly, I never listened to any IPOB stuff. Just telling you what I Know as a good student of history. . Upto the mid 90s, NITEL and the managerial staffs of major government banks in the east were dominated by the Yorubas! It seems to me like that you guys are way too young to even understand the enermousity of the havoc caused by your forbearers. When one tries to educate you, you start calling him IPOB. It's crazy.

Post war , The Yorubas headed most of the parastatals while the northerners controlled the armed forces. Answer this: how many graduates came from northern Nigeria at independence? Compare that to the figures from your South West and the East. The north had little or none. By 1976, the Yoruba corruption of the civil service has become so bizarre and insane that even Murtala started a mass sacking of civil servants! That was how his "action President" status came to be. You know nothing. ...

You aren't well informed and already drown in the pond of your bigotry laced with ignorance, so there's no need to continue to discuss this matter with you.

Beebah2000:
Lol
Women matter no dey finish for una mouth

But it's the truth.

Gireiboy:
We northerners prefer armed conflict,that will enable us to finish what we started in 1967

Are you happy with what armed Banditry and Armed Boko Haramism has done to your Adamawa State?

Isobug:
It's a lie, He instigated all those problems

So who instigated the problems in PDP, APGA, Labour Party and others?

DOTian:
You are comparing apples and oranges..
Nigerias airways, Nigerias shipping line, first generation banks! Leventis them. Insurance companies.. Even government parastatals flooded with your people post 1966 were all ran down with corruption! INTEL, NEPA, REFINERIES. Even The NNPC, an oil monopoly was declared bankrupt! The northerners didn't have the graduates then. The easterners were chased out. You hyjacked all these and ran them down. That's the history of how we got here..

That you somehow believe this IPOB propaganda that one tribe, the Yorubas which is just one out of the 300 tribes in Nigeria were the only ones working and running public corporations owned by the whole Nigeria shows the level of your education and intelligence.

Even if you haven't been born when NITEL, Nigeria Airways, Nigeria National Shipping Lines were in operation but relied on IPOB propaganda as the gospel truths , why not ask educated Nigerians who are above 50years if Yorubas were the only Nigerians working in those Federal Government companies.

JaroMan:
Tinubu is smart but not wise. He has continued to burn bridges to the detriment of the party. And he's been doing this against foundational members of the party.
He did it to Rochas using Adams Oshiomole via Gulak.
He did it to former Zamfara gov
He did to Ngige in Anambra.
The party is just living on life support and keen observers know this. That is why there seems to be silence in the party.

If you are wise, you ought to have known that it's wrong to assume that every conflict within the APC is caused by Tinubu.


In politics, it's natural to have conflicts and in Nigerian political parties, where people are more interested in their self interests than anything else, conflicts is very common.

All the people you mentioned experienced conflicts in their HOME Chapters of the APC due to clashes of interests with other stakeholders in their home chapters of the party.


Wherever there's a conflict in a party, alignments and re-arrangements of polical players occur naturally. This has nothing to with Tinubu.

The phenomena are the same even in APGA, PDP, Labour Party etc.

FallenShitHole:
The above bolded goes to confirm what we all know about the afonjas. The most corrupt people on earth. They ran down every nigeria institution they handled through massive corruption. All the institutions they inherited through the 1972 indigenization decree instituted by awolowo after making sure that Igbos are out of the equation because of the 20£ to any amount we had then on our bank accounts. The yorubas bought every nigeria company then at peanut prices and still ran them aground. Do you want to talk about the nigeria airways? The most brutally murdered institution through corruption by the afonjas.

1) Corruption is not about tribe.

2) Companies fold up from so many reasons , beyond corruption.

3) The companies were run by peoples from different tribes.

4) Even Igbo companies like African Continental Bank (ACB), Savannah Bank (Nwobodo's bank), Zik's West African Pilot Newspapers, Champion Newspapers of Nnwanyanwu, Ekene DiliChukwu Transport all folded up due to mismanagement.


5) Pascal Dozie was the Chairman of Nigeria Airways when the company went South and he was recommended for prosecution but the politics of tribalism (where corrupt people supported by their tribes claim they are being persecuted) made it impossible for him to be properly sanctioned.

ScamHunter:
The key adjectives are Hausa-Fulani: Immoral, pleasure loving and depends on luck or chance

Yoruba : Betrayal, disloyal, backstabbing, treacherous, controlled by lust for money and greedy

Igbo : Hardworking, industrious, religious, can't be pushed around and fights oppression

A hundred years later, we can see the reason the country is moving in circles without progress. So when people ask you why the last time there was progress in these parts was when the colonialists were around, the reason is that the country has been governed based on luck like a game of chance by a particular group.

When I was growing up, I often wondered why older Igbo never speak well of Yoruba. If it was because of Biafra, were they the only ones that fought against us? Even the pogrom was mainly in the north. Everything started making sense to me in 2015 and also during End Sars protest. These are not people you can trust and not get disappointed according to Mr Lugard.

This is why every sensible person knows the tribe that has what it takes to make the country move forward, but envy, jealousy and hatred won't let these tribes see the source of their redemption.
This is the same reason they're afraid of Igbo exit. Less than a generation after Igbo exits, we would be competing with Europe while you guys will still be having national discourse on cattle and colonies of cattle.

Thank goodness, the analysis is from those who formed you guys into a country.

This is bumkum,

1) Lord Lugard never wrote these qoutes.

2) Even if Lord Lugard truly said so, it was from his biased and jaundiced views in
1919 and not backed by either Logic or Science.

3) It is wrong to assume that the problems with Nigeria are caused by only a particular tribe.

4) At least since 1999, Igbos have been ruling Igbo States with considerable authonomy, yet the Igbo States are still battling with all features of underdevelopment typical of most African communities.

5) Development is premised on actions and not on sentimental feelings or wishful thinking.

Emergingnation:
Says marauding fulani Muslim, where their head no dey fit carry science and technology ....... Go to ABA and Nnewi see things for yourself

All parts of Nigeria have hard working and lazy peoples.


Some of the leather used in shoe manufacturing at Aba are produced in the North.

Every day, scores of Lorries loaded with wooden planks leave Osun and Ondo States for the S/East via Onitsha.


All parts of Nigeria are industrious in different areas.

kingawothefirst:
Even though I’m not an afonja, this is fake and propaganda. Luggard never said none of those things, at least I haven’t been able to find the legit quote, so please cite is legitimate source that shows that this is a direct quote from Luggard.

Till then, the OP along with the propagandist need to stop posting fake news!

I have been seeing these propaganda being circulated by some igbo guys at Newspapers Stand since the time of PDP 1999 presidential primaries .

Emergingnation:
Yes, we are very industrious, when imminent desintegration take place, within 10yrs South East will turn to Japan of Africa

Continue to deceive yourself sir.



If you are going to turn to Japan within 10years, your States should at least be like Malaysia or Turkey by now.

What are you presently doing that are similar to what the people of Japan are doing?

Zenithh:
Land of the developers

Ipob will not see these dead infrastructure and fight for a better living.

They prefer to be shouting Tinubu Tinubu upandan.

Penguin2:
It’s the turn of Igbos.

But if that can’t happen, then let the Fulanis have it again.

Are you in charge of dishing out the presidency to tribes?

Moikiitos:
A VP that is NOT courageous enough to stand up against his boss bad leadership is not worth my 1-vote. Sorry to say, we need a leader in Nigeria that can stand, speak and be courageous enough to take bold step irrespective of ethnicity for the people of Nigeria. NIGERIANS DESERVE BETTER. Good eligible voters of Nigeria, open your eyes and vote for someone that has been outspoken and vocal (ie GENUINE) against any bad leadership we have had up till now, in this now shit hole we now call Nigeria.

We all deserve better than what we have now. 2023 should be our time to make the right decision that will drive this country aggressively to progress, growth and development or be doom.

The power lays with us the voters not those vicious vultures of modern day politicians in Nigeria. We're the driver of this country called Nigeria. We can decide which destination we so choose to take her to: To GREATNESS as we all long and hope for or be DOOM.

But you didn't name this better candidate.

discusant:
A foolish Obong does not understand that from rotation formula, it’s the turn of the Igbo to succeed PMB in Aso Rock.


The Obong does not understand that if rotation is not adhered to, nothing shall make VP Osinbajo win presidential election.

Obong spoke like one of those unintelligent elders from the SS who journeyed to Kaduna in 1967 and begged for non Igbo speaking areas of the old eastern region be carved out of Biafra. Thereafter, all the oil wells in the Southsouth got seized by politicians and soldiers from the north. Pollution from oil exploration ravaged the Southsouth and extends to the southeast.

Honestly I don't know how igbo and Biafra came into this matter.

Deputy1111:
Traditional rulers in Nigeria have continued to praise Vice President Yemi Osinbajo.


https://dailytrust.com/pdp-apc-want-osinbajo-to-succeed-buhari-obong-of-eket

Bkayy, Penguin2, MrVitalis and MnwanyiOgwashi will not like this

Darkcloud11:
If Yoruba are wise they will campaign for a SS presidency person so they can win their alliance,campaign for a SS guy in the primaries and watch him loose, and another Yoruba would win the Yoruba guy should now pick a SS guy as Vp,by that action u have split the vote make sure it’s either ijaw or ibo or effik, that means u are guaranteed about 50% vote from SS the north will come through for yorubas,but if the Yorubas out rightly demand for presidency they will fail woefully,the Hausa fulanis will feel yorubas are getting to big for their boot thank you.

So you think that you are wiser than the Yorubas?


No wonder you are postulating a SW/SS ticket for 2023 presidential election!

Darkcloud11:
tribalism apart SS and SE won’t vote a Yoruba president guy pipe down e go shock SW,in fact I want tinubu to win APC presidential ticket

But Rotimi Amaechi is not a Yoruba man, so the contest is now between Amaechi Vs Atiku. Therefore feel free to support your beloved candidate/party.

yanabasee2:
He knows that his people will betray him.... it's a common practice from where he originates from.... So he wants to speak to the tribe that doesn't betray their own....

Where did he originate from? Deji Adeyanju is from Kogi State.

Dammyrosky:
Nigerians, please let us always think about our tommorow and the generation to come. Don't let us think of today alone by selecting leaders base on ethnicity, religion, politics, qualifications and the likes.... Imagine, we are already bringing up someone from a failed administration to be our future leader at this particular time that we are.... hennn...
I just feel pained typing this, just can't understand our mindset, especially we the youths.

Hmm, but you can't stop people from contesting.



It is better to join political parties or form your own and start campaigning for the candidate you consider to be the best.

sageb:
Oyatz come and see ooo

Okay bro.


However, you need to know that virginity is a state of lack of sexual experience and not necessarily age.



If you ask some British Pathologists they will tell you how many women that died in Britain with their virginity which are only discovered during autopsies.

Guardiola84:
Pls why naija people too like suffer?is it not osubande n buhari that is raping Nigeria for d past 7yrs?na so this ofenmanu people just d use tribalism d do politics ,na so they packaged buhari blc of osubane their brother wey be VP now how mkt?where have osubande govern before ?let osubande go n govern his state first let's see his performance,come to think of it pls what does APC have to offer as a party after d gnashing of teeth they subjected Nigerians into in d past 7yrs now ?continue d recycle failures n continue d enjoy poverty ,osubande is a failure as well as his principal buhari prd!

Bros, relax.


It's not only APC that will participate in the election, other parties too will participate and you will have many choices to chose from. Even within the APC, there will be a primary election to select the flag bearer of the party, so start campaigning for your preferred candidate and defeat the Ndi ofe nmanu.

abobote:
Osibanjo can not defeat Atiku, Tinubu vs Atiku will be more interesting

Wike will clinch the PDP ticket

CrownOfClay724:
This Tappa,
Does it extends to Kwara State?
I have a friend from Kwara who insists he is Tappa instead bof Yoruba.

Yes, it extend to Kwara.


Tapa is Yoruba name for Nupe.

Ekealterego:
What is now Nupe (Tappa) use to be Yoruba land or occupied by Yorubas at one time. Whether there were some people living there before the Yorubas arrived, that I don't know though.

Both Yoruba and Nupe have strong history of inter-relationship especially during the hey days of Oyo Empire.

Many notable elites in Old Oyo had Nupe Mothers/wives.

Igboid:
Okay.
We need to do more to reteach our people there.
I don't understand this strong affinity by Igbos to claim exotic origin stories from kingdoms outside Igboland.
If it's not Igala, it's Bini, or it's far away Israel.

Someone needs to conduct a study on this mass induced self hate and need to get attached to perceived places of power (Monarchical societies in case of Bini and Igala) and modern power in terms of Israel.

It's very disturbing.
Imagine even Zik himself was inflicted with this same mental illness.

More often than not, the old stories (not the recently fabricated Jewish connections) are true. The reasons are many and related;

1) Pre-colonial African Kingdoms experienced unnecessary wars over virtually any matter from succession disputes to slave raiding to boundaries matters.

Great Monarchies used military force to subdued their neighbours.

2) These wars caused displacement of people, who naturally will prefer to move to peaceful areas.

3) The areas without strong Kingdoms like the present S/East were spared of these internecine wars in the era between 1600-1900 and was more peaceful, thus it served as the natural safe haven for people fleeing areas of conflicts.


This however doesn't diminish the greatness of Ndigbo.

Igboid:
Interesting.
I just remembered the song "Oleku" by Ice prince.
Lol!
Thanks for the history lesson on evolution of Oluku/Onuku from Oleku.
Funny thing is that it is used as far as Abia and Imo state. Being parts of Igboland who had no interactions with Igala, yet Oluku/Onuku is used to refere to someone behaving in a stupid manner.
Very interesting.
More interesting is that in Anambra dialects where there is a replacement of L for N in words, as seen in Ana for Ala, Enu for Elu, the L in Oleku quickly changed to Onuku, while the Igbos in southern part who use L for N, despite having no contact with Igalas, ended up rechanging the Onuku they heard from Ndi ANAMBRA to Oluku, and by so doing ended up with a word closer to the original Oleku word than the Anambra people closer to Igala.

Language evolution is very interesting.

Actually, in both Igala and Yoruba languages, Oluku originally means 'Friend' but in certain social contexts the friend being referred to means 'friends with benefits' like Girlfriend or Woman-Friend.

rdokoye:
I know it does, that's why I pointed out that Nigeria is undertaxed, and as I said before, Igbo business owners rarely pay tax. This is not conjecture, unlike the things you've written.

Virtually every state in the SW is heavily in debt. Unlike in the SE, where even the poorest state owes very little, and that's because of the private sector, which is more developed in the SE than any of the other regions.

You keep shifting the goal posts sir.


The topic is about IGR, so how does debt come into it?

Every State in the S/west is indebted to who? According to who?
And the S/East States are not in debt? Because of private sector?

Which private sector that doesn't pay tax but somehow make their States Gov't not to be in debt?





#These your theories aren't adding up sir, cook another theory.