₦airaland Forum

Kyase:
Yes
And food production alone can’t sustain us

mrvitalis:
The only regional government igbos would accept is igbo region , all the igbos that accept they are igbos under one region

The scam creation of south east won't even stand

Jerryherd:
26 out of 36 states won't be able to pay salary or complete any project without Niger Delta Oyel money

Poverty would chase many back to villages to begin farming like their ancestors

Gambit23:
""strength of the itsekiris and bini are not in their numbers so dont be deceived""

Itsekriri population both in the 19th century and today represents 1% of the IGBO population, And every IGBO community is over 3 times the Itsekiri so there's no way they would have ventures into IGBO land to raid villages to take slaves, it is impossible. The IGBOs actually fought the europeans(with their guns) for 32 years before we fell, that's the longest time it took the British to conquer anyone anywhere in Africa. If Itsekiri ever ventured into IGBO land, they wouldn't be in existence today. Pls Itsekiri had no strength, They never defeated anyone in war and there was never a record anywhere that Itsekiri fought with IGBOs, show get size abeg.




""first educated king and individual in sub saharan Africa""

Can u show any proof to this?

Chris525:
Even in the North people eat Amala. How then is it called a Yoruba food? Chinese food is eaten in Nigeria, how then is it Chinese food?

Thats how ridiculous you sound.

You are the one sounding ridiculous by comparing a whole Region and a country (China) with an ethnic group.



Yam is cultivated accross many African Communities.
How you claim pounded Yam is a Bini menu is beyond common sense.

GerogeI:
And your concern is quite besides the point of discussion, which is whether Itsekiris and Benens were enslaving Igbos west of the Niger. Your false claim of provincial influence does not matter as it does not mean enslavement, as Oluadah clearly stated it was non existent, and there enslavers were rather Eboes (bandits)- red coloured men to whom they also sold slaves.

Chris525:
Can you avail me your source please.

Why do you think that a lot of Ekiti/Ondo culture tilts towards the Edos other than the yoruba? Even the Iyan they eat or claim as theirs is Edo’s food. The core yorubas are known for Amala, lafun etc. Even their indigenious language is arguably Edoid.

GerogeI:
A moat, or earthpit does not make an empire, Benin was merely a Kingdom and had zero influence East of the Niger.

That controversy, which Olaudah elaborated by showing that the boarders of Benin was unknown is besides the point and just a distraction.

The real issues are with reference to Reno's claims, and as Olaudah evidenced are:
1. The slave raiders were Eboes not Iteskiri or Benens
2. The slave traders were Eboes not Iteskiri or Benens
3. The slave route was through Eboe land not Iteskiri or Benens as they all spoke languages same as the Eboe slave.
4. No body ever mentioned or knew Itsekiris at Equiano's time, an insignificant minority group brought to light only by the formation of Nigeria.

Finito.

misano:
I get your point. But that's what Tinubu is trying to do. He just wants the whole north to support him, hoping to win that way. That's Y he keeps giving donations to the northerners, hoping to get a block vote from them & that can't work.

murphyibiam15:
What tribe do ika and Ikwerre people fill when they need to fill up for a tribe in official registrations like jamb, waec etc?

GerogeI:
The colonial era referred to anything around the Niger delta as Benen Kingdom. Even today, Geologist refers to most of the base rock under the Niger delta as Benin Formation. Simply because the British identified them as monarchies like themselves, and further hyped them, hoping to do with them what they did with the Emirs of the North

As a the time of the write up, when Olaudah was an accomplished adult, the borders and extent of Benen kingdom were still unknown as he stated clearly in his write up. So the broad use of Benen term at his time. Oluadah clearly identified himself as Eboe in his introduction, so his village was not in or part of Benin. But used Benin as the nearest location mark familiar to his audience of 17th century Christian in London. He goes on to describe in details how everyman was the highest authority in his own home- (an Igbo enshrine value system). He also spent entire paragraph on the similarity of his peoples culture with that of the Jews). Never in those descriptions did he mention any sort of reference or reverence to Benin. You can not rule a people in absentia. So like he said, Benin kingdom ( of which he knew as an adult) was probably too far as it had no influence in his village while he was a child.

If you followed his journey down to the seas, he was traded among people who spoke same language as him until he got to the sea. It's a shame, but it was Eboes that raided and kidnapped other Eboes as slaves, no outsider could have done it successfully as Reno Omokri claims. The British with their guns could not accomplish that talkless of Itsekiris.

Gambit23:
Arogbo ijaw oil d crude oil in indo.

There's no drop of crude oil in Yoruba land

discusant:
President from north after Buhari we know. Not Tinubu. E go happen for una korokoro eyes.

Field BAT as APC presidential candidate, PDP shall field a Moslem northerner as presidential candidate.
Election day, about 90% of northern voters - from Benue to Borno and to Sokoto - shall vote the PDP candidate from the north. Only SW shall vote BAT.
Buhari's successor emerges from the north.

Most shophistiwretched lot. After OBJ and Shonekan from the SW, una no consider the SE worthy to benefit from rotation. In your own dictionary of roation of Nigeria's presidency between the north and south
of Nigeria, rotation between north and south for you people means rotation of the presidency between north and Yoruba.

JUHABACH:
I don't often comment here. honestly don't care what geographical region the next president will come from. all I can say is that if Tinubu is really the best we can offer at this critical period of our history, then this country deserves to remain a 3rd world nation.

candidbabe:
We are crying that 80 year old buhari cannot do anything other than traveling round the world for medical check-ups,

You want to bring tinubu buhari age mate to come and become president in 2023?
Who did this to Nigerians?

All Nigerian evil politicians shall never escape the wrath of the Almighty God.

Arda1000:
dude you don’t even know what a tribal mark stands for,Let me just break it down to your level,Igbo don’t have tribal marks,we do have spiritual marks given to some few people because of circumstance like someone who is suspected to be an ogbanje or ichi mark are just spiritual we are not into scarification ones body,we have many more marks but it’s not something you are forced to do,most of them are being marked when the person have reached adulthood ,and these two marks are pretty much going extinct,I have never heard or seen where we mark for tribal or body beautification which is what tribal marks stands for, my brother who is deaf lives in Lagos(I know American Sign Language but due to,lack of any means in it to describe one’s Ethnicity you have to create one for easy communication) if he wants to describe an Hausa in our conversation he will simply use his finger to draw a line around his chin because that’s where Hausa like marking themselves automatically I know he his referring to Hausa People same applies to Yoruba,he indicates that my drawing a long line across his cheek,so don’t take it personally ok,we don’t have issues with us having a tribal mark in our history but u guys are making it look like a big deal and force it down our throats,both ichi(which I have never seen before) and ogbanje marks bearers are very very small to be considered a tribal mark,you and your stewpid Reno can choke on lies and propaganda

Born2Breed:
Reno has soft pedal. In his previous post, he was trying to attribute so much to the Itsekiris.

The Itsekiris were traders, they buy and sell to those in the hinterland, buying slaves and selling to the Portuguese is understandable but they NEVER fought a war and captured slaves, they were under the protection of the Benin Empire.

The Igbos were never a united kingdom, attacking and capturing them were as easy as picking stones from beans.

GerogeI:
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" That part of Africa, known by the name of Guinea, to which the trade for slaves is carried on, extends along the coast above 3400 miles, from the Senegal to Angola, and includes a variety of kingdoms. Of these the most considerable is the kingdom of Benen, both as to extent and wealth, the richness and cultivation of the soil, the power of its king, and the number and warlike disposition of the inhabitants. It is situated nearly under the line, and extends along the coast about 170 miles, but runs back into the interior part of Africa to a distance hitherto I believe unexplored by any traveller; and seems only terminated at length by the empire of Abyssinia, near 1500 miles from its beginning. This kingdom is divided into many provinces or districts: in one of the most remote and fertile of which. called Eboe, I was born, in the year 1745, in a charming fruitful vale, named Essaka. The distance of this province from the capital of Benin and the sea coast must be very considerable; for I had never heard of white men or Europeans, nor of the sea: and our subjection to the king of Benin was little more than nominal; for every transaction of the government, as far as my slender observation extended, was conducted by the chiefs or elders of the place. The manners and government of a people who have little commerce with other countries are generally very simple; and the history of what passes in one family or village may serve as a specimen of a nation. "

The Benin kingdom had little or no influence on Oluadah Equiano's village. If his people were being taken as slaves by Benin, won't he know Benin or Benen as he writes prior to enslavement. Won't his people be paying tribute to almighty Benin?

Ojiofor:
Is there any tribe in Nigeria that were not sold as slaves?
BTW,So now you and Reno agreed that Anioma people are Igbos because it suits your narrative today.

Ofodirinwa:
show me an example in the past 100 years of someone blocking a river. Even in a time of war.
I'm talking about countries that are capable, not a beans and garri Nigeria.

The US went to war with landlocked Iraq. Show me the blocked river.
The US went to war with landlocked Afghanistan, Show me the blocked river.
It is like saying you will block my door with your body so I can't enter my house. I will just get one kin stop and jakapka that your dry head.

Ojiofor:
IPOB boys will mess him up if continues.

Ojiofor:
Good for him but he seems to be kinda obsessed with ndi Igbo.He should mind the business of his ethnic group for once.

hammerDK:
Edionwere almost sound igbo.

Oka in Igbo also means 1st or Bigger.

Ogbe is igbo.


Ugbo is igbo.


Your language is Igbo mixed with yoruba.


U cannot make a sentence without an igbo word in it.

EMMY76:
Empires that were all conquered by ojukwu and his men in one day till date it's on record that it's only ojukwu and the British that have conquered the bini empire and all the other tribes in the niger delta.

theTranscriber:
Igodomigodo people are not Igbo
No dey claim nonsense

Walkee:
so? How does that make it more Igbo than Esan.
Ogbe means fence while ogbẹ means someone very important.
These linguistics similarities were mainly as a result of Edos activities in those regions.
Idumota is an esan word lekki is from the esan word for market, Eki, Idumagbo is an esan word. There are other parts of Lagos with Benin and etsako names.
The general name of Lagos, Eko is an esan word for settlement.

Ojiofor:
Good for idiots who goes about looking for Igbo sounding names to claim as a relative.
Btw,Reno himself might still be one of the so called slaves just like Asari Dokubo whose great grandfather was a slave.

melodyogonna:
You probably don't know but conquering a people don't mean you enslaved them. What happens is that you impose a ruler and make them part of your empire, when they have enough firepower they fight back and overthrow the ruler you imposed. Slaves are taken during raids or immediately after the conquest by soldiers, they're usually the ones that fought in the battle against the invaders or the first people the invading army laid hands on. My point? Because a section of say ... Ika was ruled by Bini does not mean they were slaves.

Ojiofor:
So why did you agree with Reno that Ishekiri or whatever enslaved Igbos?