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It's not actually Oshiomole per se but the APC already have strategies and contingency plans for all these factional chairman remaining or not remaining in the party.



Oshiomole has been in the Nigerian political space since 1982 when he was elected General Secretary of a Major Trade Union in this Country and eventually became National President of the Nigerian Labour Congress about 20years ago at a time almost nobody knew Jonathan and he became the Governor of Edo State in 2008 and National Chairman of the APC in 2017, so what did Jonathan contribute to his political career?

Jonathan was in the PDP while Oshiomole was in the ACN/APC, so what's the benevolence of Jonathan in his political career?

Gandollar:
Nobody knows it all!

If not for the benevolence of Jonathan, a monkey like Oshiomole wouldn't be in our national political space today ranting like he owns the world!

It's because Nigerian democracy is not yet matured.

LukasPodolski:
ACF is just a failed group, we all saw how they opposed Buhari, and the end of the day, what happened? Buhari won flawlessly.

I can see people from the eastern part deceiving themselves on this thread, as usual.

They're miscalculating again as always, the fact is that South Southerners are already embracing APC, we all saw the result of the 2019 presidential election, how APC has a reasonable number of votes(we didn't expect that) coupled with David Lyon massive victory.

Now instead of Igbos to start preparing for 2023, they are more concerned about how to defame Tinubu.

Now the shocker : Tinubu seem not to be after presidency (He loves being the party leader) by 2023 the SW will present an unexpected candidate (all eyes is on Tinubu)

This candidate preferably Osinbajo (a Christian that will get a huge vote from SS and NC) backed with a very strong Northern politician like the El Rufai or Zulum.

Or

Fashola, who is an household name in Nigerian political sphere.

Fashola will get massive support due to his performance as Lagos State Governor ( his Eko Oni baje slogan is known Nationwide and this will sell him faster)

Now if the plan works out, who will loose?

Igbos, why?

They will cry of marginalization for another eight years.

Now the shocking part.

Tinubu will personally deal with them in Lagos.


Let's all think out of the box.

Is the North not part of Nigeria? Let whoever wants to contest, be it Atiku, Kwankwanso or El-Rufai contest and build whatever bridge that suit your fancy.


The debates about 2023 election should not be reduced to Tinubu's affairs.

Tinubu is a private citizen, let him test him exercise his constitutional right to aspire for the highest post in the land.


If you don't like his candidacy, start campaigning for your candidate that's in the same class of morality with Angel Gabriel.

Macphenson:
Yes every Nigerian has a right to contest including the north, and every region also has a right to build their own political bridge.

Even Atiku doesn't have this level of confidence.

However, the numbers matters in an election. The S/East gave Atiku the second least votes in 2019.

SLAP44:
The whole SE and SS is locked for Atiku. Igbos are very loyal with their votes if they trust you. Atiku is credible as always and we don't have any fear about him.

When did you start caring about Tinubu?

Every Nigerian has a right to contest, this will help Nigerian democracy.

It is not compulsory to win in any election but we can't say some one should not contest because of the fear of being defeated.

Macphenson:
Please people should remove sniper from a certain Chicago drug Baron, so we don't have a sucide case again. Some people are in Sifia pains.

If the greed of South West will not allow power to return to south south or south east, then north is a goal.

I laugh at people championing Tinubu presidency, every indices and calculation is against him.

I have always asked, if APC gives Tinubu a Muslim south ticket, who will be his vice? A christian from the north? Or will he run a Muslim Muslim ticket?

Nobody has been able to answer that question till date.

If anybody is smart will see that the north is more comfortable with OUK than Tinubu.
OUK is technically their "son".

There's even a rumor that OUK is IBB's son, reason why all through his tenure as a governor, his father never identified with him as he was selling hangar in Aba.

Tinubu is in a political dilemma. His best option was Osibanjo who is a Christian and they will easily get a northern vice but he threw Osibanjo under the tyres.

2023 is really an interesting year.

And Tinubu became Treasurer of Mobile without attending any school?

ThatFairGuy:
Campaign after election. Besides, he's claiming he doesn't attend any school throughout his life? Smh

An asute Politician like Oshiomole already knows and plan for all these moves.

Meninmen:
As factional chairman, his job is to cause troubles within APC, right from selection of aspirants. His faction will bring out an aspirant, the faction loyal to Oshiomole will bring out their own aspirant. APC will have 2 aspirants. That's the beginning of confusion

Constitutionally, he will cease to be but the party may not challenge it in court before of the time frame and certain technicalities.

Swtbabyvee:
excuse me sir , are u telling me he will cease being governor if he leaves the party ? Cause that’s absolute ignorance. He has officially left the party

Very good observation.

After the defeat of Alh Atiku Abubakar, the North's consesus candidate in the PDP primaries of 2011, a journalist interviewed the then Gov Sule Lamido and asked why he didn't support the 'North's consesus candidate.

Lamido replied that 'in established constitutional democracies, it's unthinkable that an incumbent President comes to the convention of his party and the party votes him out. If the party should do that, it means that the party has passed a vote of no confidence on itself'



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Igbos, Bini and Yorubas used to be one people who practiced similar cultures and spoke the same language in the distant past (like a thousand years ago).

I think his nephew, Dr John Momoh is the Chairman of Channels T.V and it not affiliated to the APC the way AIT is affiliated to the PDP.

frankwandy:
channel TV owners, APC media of deceitful and liar's

But this hatred can cause you to have stroke o.

rowland545:
This ugly Edo people again....I hate Nigeria I hate Nigerian politicians ....I also hate APC and PDP....but above all I hate jubril more

Many Nigerians don't really understand party politics.

In Nigeria, it's the Political parties that contest for elections, the candidates are actually like captains of their parties' teams in the elections.

The party has a right to determine who should be the captain of their team before going into the electoral contests.

Swtbabyvee:
make I hear word! Why will they deny him the governorship ticket , a present governor representing ur party? .. what ever what ever the reason, is the same he’s making moves to leave also

Many of you just comment based on emotion without fully understanding the peculiarities of each situation.


1) No two elections are exactly alike. The Time ,The Place (States) and The Persons (the political actors) are different.

2) If Obaseki had decamped like Ortom about 6 months before the Primaries, his case would have been different.
Who decamp to a major political party four days to the Primaries and is rewarded with a Governorship ticket?



3) The PDP are also studying the situations and it's implications both political and LEGAL implications.

4) You don't understand politics , especially Lagos State politics like Ambode, neither do you have his level of exposure, expertise or experience.
You don't have access to the information he had and i seriously doubt it if you are wiser than him.

goaldynboy:
Why are all zombies and Tinubu's miscreants having this same similar thought process just to make it easy for APC to win the state!

Obaseki is not Ambode the coward that chicken out so easily! He has enormous power as the incumbent governor and will wield it to fight to the finish line!

Orthom of Benue State did it!!!!

Okay, you may be right bro.





















However, you need to improve on your grammar sir.

Confirmedzombie:
Obasek will still won the ticket. PDP is are just deceive us.

Obasek will still won the election. We dont need a suit sayer to told us this.

APC is finish in Edo state.

Buhari was an incumbent President and the candidate of his party, he didn't decamp to APC few days before the Primaries.

In established democracy, incumbent Presidents don't even go through primaries before their party give them tickets for re-election.

Do you see anyone contesting against Trump for Republican ticket in the upcoming US Presidential election? How many incumbent Presidents in USA or India undergoes primaries before re-election?

apokan200:
When apc gave Buhari automatic ticket in 2019 does that make the party appear cheap bro leave that cheapness consensus is also a thing in any political part

These situations are different ma.

The purchase of Governorship forms in the PDP has closed and the Primaries is already fixed for Saturday. Are you saying the winner of the primary should step down for Obaseki?

If Obaseki is serious about ending godfatherism, the most appropriate thing for him is to join and support whoever wins the PDP ticket and not to seek to be the PDP candidate. It is a potential pit fall for the PDP.

Depending on his desires, another alternative is to reconcile with the APC, withdraw from the APC Primaries and he can be compensated within the party. He has still contest for Governorship in the APC
and stand a good chance to emerge as a consesus candidate because he will only stay for 4 years ( like the Fayemi's case in Ekiti).

bright007:
It doesn't matter. Power belongs to the people. Remember how Oshiomole reclaimed his mandate when he was rigged out?

It was the people that stood behind him.

The electoral act had been amended to make this almost impossible.

fyneguy:


The winner of the primary will step down for him

This tribal bashing is unnecessary sir.

I have tried to study them and their perspectives on many political issues , including the reasons they accuse other of certain actions and I think their backgrounds and cultural worldviews project equality of everybody.

My grouse with some of them is when they assume every Nigerian must operate according to these backgrounds and cultural worldviews as exemplified by their difficulties in accommodating dissenting opinions.

Throwback:
Has anyone noticed that a notorious tribe of ingrates are always supporting back-stabbers, yet they always lament the most about betrayal?

Their most prominent desire in politics is betrayal and ingratitude, which they project in the political affairs of their own region and actively campaign for such in the politics of every other region.

For them, it is a must to always support the treacherous ingrate who was helped, while vilifying the benefactor as a demon who must be destroyed.


This is the same tribe that every governor they have had, have always betrayed the benefactor that got them into office.

Enugu
Chimaroke Nnamani vs Jim Nwobodo
Sullivan Chime vs Chimaroke Nnamani

Anambra
Mbadinuju vs Sir Emeka Offor
Peter Obi vs APGA / Ojukwu family
Obiano vs Peter Obi

Abia
Theodore Oji vs Orji Kalu

A tribe of backstabbers such that no clansman politician manages to get to the top before he is pulled down by his own people.

Azikiwe betrayed Biafra.
Ojukwu ran away as a historic coward and returned to support Fulani party.
Ojukwu was betrayed by his people and lost Senate in 1983 and Presidency in 2003.

Kanu betrayed his IPOB zombies by calling upon them to come and face a fatal battle with the Nigerian Army who he claimed were attacking him, meanwhile the terrorist had already fled the area with his beloved Mum and Dad. His only regret of his cowardice when he showed up after hiding for over 1yr, was that he was unable to flee with his dog who so perished. While Kanu betrayed his supporters, his dog stood his ground like a man that Kanu wasn't, showing that animals of the zoo have more courage than a life-loving, porn-filming, death-baiting affliction to his own people.


Amaka disappoint the whole world with betrayal and a continuous desire to promote treachery.

Which record sir?

The ways you guys use the word ',betray' does not suggest you truly understand the meaning.

Anenih was the Chairman of PDP Board of Trustees and Mr Fix It for the PDP.

Oshiomole was in the ACN and he defeated the PDP under Anenih, Igbinedion, Osunbor etc.


So if you defeat your opponents in an election, that means you betray them?

jaxxy:
Lol keep deceiving urselves. He betrayed anenih. It’s on record till date.

I understand your plights and present feelings about the political situations in Nigeria but change your tactics, it won't produce the desired results you anticipate.

Amatarasha:
yawns

The political tango in Edo State is not as you guys assume.


Gov Obaseki didn't manage the situation very well. A little bit of humility and tact could have prevented his troubles.



Even decamping to the PDP may not solve the problems.
There are many politicians who have kept faith with the PDP through thin and thick for years, investing their resources and energy with the hope of clinching the party's ticket and the genuine belief that they would defeat Obaseki of the APC.

Few days to the Primaries, Obaseki now decamp to the PDP and you feel dashing him the Governorship ticket will not generate crisis within the PDP?

The APC will just capitalize on this, buy over the present frontline aspirants in the PDP by promising them Federal appointments (who will leave certainties of the FG appointments for the uncertainties of Obaseki's meagre compensation?) and they will either serve as internal moles in the PDP or rightly decamp to the APC, leaving Obaseki in the cold.

bright007:
These are the real voters.

These are the important people.

Not one ass-licker of the Lagos landlord

IPOB peddle dangerous propaganda against the Yorubas and the Hausa-Fulanis which unfortunately many young Igbos believe hook, line and singer.

The reverberating consequences of this phenomenon for the Yorubas and Hausa-Fulanis is gradually being felt and will become worse in the years ahead.

If you go to Twitter and Facebook, you will see the avalanche of malicious falsehood being dish out against the Yorubas that any reasonable Yoruba person will know that if this people have the power and opportunities, they will not hesitate to harm the Yoruba interests.

However, all these will also have consequences for the Igbos.

wirinet:
Apart for ipob people being obsessed with Yoruba every waking moment and probably in their dreams also, they are equally obsessed with Yoruba media.
Abeg ask them, are they formed to read or listen to Yoruba media? Why not listen or read only igbo media? Abi igbo no get media?

Must you find a way to bring Yorubas( always in a negative way) to everything?

What concern Yorubas in this matter?

Your hatred for the Yorubas can't bring about any solution, it won't make Buhari to die or resign, it won't stop Boko Haram, it won't stop Yorubas from constested the 2023 election and it won't add money into your bank account?

Rather it will galvanize the Yorubas , including the hitherto neutral ones to come together.

Stop this unnecessary hatred that won't take you anywhere.

Amatarasha:
Yoruba media don't report Boko Haram anymore

This meme is the most funny one on social media in 2020.

Psalmy2cute:
.

After Buhari, Tinubu is their most hated figure.

Fortunately, they can't do beyond just hating.

Sammy07:
Guy/Girl.

I'm not a Tinubu supporter but anything for the progress of Yorubas

They(Tinubu supporters), have the freedom of expression and speech.

Let me ask this, if tinubu dies today, you think Igbos won't rejoice.

or you think they don't look for downfall of Yoruba people?

Bros calm down, Oshiomole is NOT a Yoruba man.

The Oshiomole- Obaseki tango is purely an internal Edo affairs.

Yorubas won't vote in the Primaries and general election.




So save yourself the stress, relax and take chilled Hero beer + a plate of Nkwobi at Ada Owerri's place, everything on my account.

One luv bro

Asgard13:
Oga shut it first

Yoruba attempt to demonize igbos on edo crises failed before Yoruba even start

Do you think Nigerians are fools and Yoruba people are wise because that the thought of every Yoruba living

Do you think edo people are stupid that they don’t read between the lines

You think bini man don’t understand Oshiomole stand and that he want to extend Tinubu godfatherism to edo

Or you think you bini people don’t know Yoruba want to enslave bini people as part of Tinubu empire .. so he can order the oba around and impose he’s own oba

What’s Yoruba interest in bini or edo election

Why is the entire Yoruba post against obaseki?

Why are yoruba people fighting obaseki a bini man and yet claim they have nonsense with bini people

You’re not ashame to come online to change narratives and propagate Yoruba poo... even when the Apc Chairman told you edo is not Lagos

What does igbos have to gain wit obaseki and Oshiomole fight

Yoruba people ought to be ashamed. The life the live online

See as human Dey embarrasse his image out of hate... and this one go wake begin claim Sophistication...

Wake up

The entire media ... the whole Nigerians... we know that Yoruba tribalism is at work ... and the pain is that obaseki has refused to bow to Tinubu like ambode did... even a bini Chief have been mocking Tinubu.. so wetin bring igbos to your post

Bayerebe’s

Hausa Fulani call Yoruba descents... green snake in green grass...

Nigerians all over the world understands Yoruba and dia ignorance more than the understand themselves

What a tribe

Tueh!

How did you measured this?

Did you also notice that the PDP Southeast supporters are also championing his re-election bid?

Godwin Obaseki had problems with his party, the APC.

popez:
I have noticed this worrying trend about south west APC supporters being the ones majorly against the re-election of Edo state governor, Godwin Obaseki
You would hardly see Apc supporters from other regions being this vocal, and fighting this hard against Obaseki's re-election, despite Edo state not being a south west state.

It makes one wonder what they stand to gain if Obaseki doesn't get re-elected.

Does it have anything to do with 2023 general election?

He was never poor and I think he used to be a good church boy (possibly from a Muslim-to-Christian converts home)

It's because of the Afonjas that are against him.

Poloyanabo2:
But Col. Njoku sef!
He became the first African colonel by 2003 and spent 10 more years without any increase in rank?
wasn't he cheated?

You are transferring your aggression to the wrong people.

The S/East State Governors proscribed IPOB and provided security forces the platform to deal with them but you are blaming the Yorubas ,many of whom don't even know what IPOB is.

Ask any 5 random guys on the street of Lagos, Ibadan, Ijebu-Ode or Ilesha what is their opinions about IPOB, you will be surprised that 90% of them will respond by asking, what is IPOB?

Sleevia:
The person that killed is whom you guy currently regard as SS but bears an igbo name.... take note.

At the emboldened, you lie... when IPOBs were being killed in their land, were you people not rejoicing? has the death not gone round now? has every region not had to contend with death and blood in their land because of your almight Buhari?

come and chase them out of your land... i double dare you all. na wetin go scatter the entire country we dey wait for.

Are you suggesting that all parties ban all Nigerian aspirants from contesting their Primaries unless they are Igbos?

Ojiofor:
There was a reason the powers that be at that time released him from prison and those power brokers determines who rules Nigeria.
The plan to make OBJ president was signed and sealed before he was set free from prison and Ekwueme couldn't have stop it.