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All these politicians are Edo people and none of all these concern Tinubu in anyway.

OkpaAkuEriEri:
Edo pple no get shame.
Tinubu afonja dey remote dem lyk toys.
Hw can Tinubu talk who can b governor in biniland?
D Oba na decoration.
Dis can Neva happened in ala Igbo


Tufiakwa.

Point of correction, Igbos don't dominate the S/West in any area.

There are Igbos, Urhobos, Hausa, Ijaws, Igede doing different economic activities in the S/west.

Arrewa:
you think I'm here to argue with you?? Hell no!!

Dangote have companies in kano and all over northern states!

We have millions of Northerners who owns company in the north...

That's why Igbos find it hard to dominate the north the way they dominate the south west!

We are the only tribe in nigeria giving Igbos run on their own money when it comes to business and politics

This is what we should be discussing on this forum now but because it is not Afonja Vs Igbos/Osus the thread is scanty.

Kindly explain Sir.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
Nice one. Tinubu thinks he owns Apc

Let me tell you one naked truth ;

If you have the basic requirements and put in basic efforts ,you will attract basic treatment and basic results.

Those that make it to the top have EXTRA requirements with extra efforts .


It is true for Professional Associations, Politics, Sports , Business, Academics and of course, Trade Unionism!

effty:
Do you belong to any union? Being a professional is different from being a unionist. I say no more.

You are making a grave error sir .

If you show this post to a DPO in the Nigeria Police, a School Principal, a Bank Director or any reasonable man that is about 50 years of age, they will point out the errors in this post.

In life, it is NOT easy to get to the top in any profession or organization, if it were to be easy everybody will get to the top.

In addition to the general requirements to be a member of an organization, trade union, association, profession or any human community, there are extra requirements needed to get to the top. These requirements may be written or unwritten, explicit or implicit , formal or informal.

It is not every lecturer that can become Vice-Chancellors, it is not every doctor that can become the CMD, it is not every police officer that can become IG, it is not every soldier that can become a General, it is not every civil servant that can become a Permanent Secretary, it is not every priest that can become the Archbishop and it is NOT every citizen that can become the President!


We may not like Oshiomole as a person but the 21 year old Oshiomole attending adult course in Trade Unionism at the Ahmadu Bello University in 1973 is NOT the same Oshiomole of 2020.

In 1973, he was a disadvantaged 21 year old labourer in the Arewa Textile Factory, Kaduna who saw the future and decided to upgrade the limitations imposed on him by his poor background by studying further at a time many of his overpampered or more fortunate mates were crusising their fathers cars around or sleeping on three seater sofa in their parents' sitting room.

Apart from that adult classes, he aquired other qualifications including an undergraduate study at Ruskin College, Oxford and the Prestigious Nigerian Institute of Policy and Strategic Studies (reserved for the top management levels in Nigieria ) to emerged as the President of the Nigerian Labour Congress (NLC) the umbrella body of workers in the country.

His colleagues who didn't upgrade themselves remained mere labourers and retrenched after some years.

effty:
Solid points you have laid out. However, my points remain the same. While you may attend seminars and workshops as a union leader, you don't need any qualification to be the President of a union. Whatever is it that qualified you to be a member qualifies you to be the President.

Anybody can praise Jonathan ma. However this does not mean Jonathan contribute to their career.


I once supported Jonathan in 2009-2012 for certain reasons. He had an uncommon grace with sympathy of most Nigerians. He had been a Deputy Governor, Governor of an oil rich State in the Niger-Delta, a Vice President, Acting President and President. I expected him to at least build functional refineries in 3 States of the S/South and correct certain anomalies in the country.
He didn't do what I expected, so I withdrew my support for his administration.



Even though I used to criticize his administration, I also praised him in 2015 with the maturity he handled the outcome of the 2015 elections. He was on on my Blackberry DP for days immediately after the election.

Gandollar:
. I can't believe you didn't remember this.
There's a screenshot to guide your search. I couldn't copy the link itself maybe due to the browser I'm currently using.

Now compare to what happened in osun under buhari in the last election.

MC Olumo is a person. Being MC Oluomo is not necessarily a PERMANENT deficiency in Education, Exposure or Character which can be aquired or remolded over time.

I know a former Director of Town Planning in Osun State who told me he was able to retired in 2012 at the age of 56 years after spending 35 years in service.
Then I asked how managed sir? He said he started work at the age of 21 years with O/L but through the opportunity of in-service training, he was able to go to university and aquired many professional certificates along the line of civil service and rose to become a Director.

My former pastor in 2004 once told us a story about himself. He said in 1987, he was a messenger in the office of Director of Medical Services in the Ministry of Health of old Oyo State. He said the exposure and contact he had with many doctors coming to their office inspired him that he too can become like them and he started attending extra mural evening classes for A-Levels. He eventually got admitted to Medical School and became a Medical Doctor!

Summary: Don't assume everybody stay at their entry level qualifications. As a matter of fact, those who rose to the top have improved themselves in education, exposure and expertise.

effty:
What is NIPSS, Kuru? I have seen so many senior ratings in the military that did one or two things there. There is nothing prestigious about it.

Meanwhile, MC Oluomo is the Chairman of the NURTW in Lagos and if by providence he becomes the President of the NURTW in Nigeria, he will represent Nigeria at any ITF/ILO forum.

Have a great day sir.

P.S.: Read about NLC and tell me what it takes to be a leader there.

Oshiomole is not the same thing asthe National Working Committee (NWC) of the APC.

Heavensent01:
what if Oshiomole suspension later end up in sacked and since he oversee the disqualification/screening of the primary election. my question is this won't the APC primary election be announced null and void?

This is obviously a fake news

Do you know what it means to be elected as the National President of Nigerian Labour Congress (NLC)?

Do you think a Labourer can represent Nigeria in the International Labour Organization for two terms?

So a Labourer can study at the Prestigious National Institute of Policy and Strategic Studies, Kuru?

Think deeply sir

effty:
He never majored in anything apart from working as a labourer in the textile mills. Stop posting this Wikipedia rubbish that can be edited at anytime.

Just like calling dog a bad name just to hang him

Kiddo01:
And some governors called him uneducated leader





Nigeria Na waoooo

In which year?

The court declared the ACN/Oshiomole winner of the 2007 election based on the evidence tendered by the legal team of the ACN led by the infatigable legal luminary, Wole Olanipekun (SAN) in 2008.

Attributing this landmark Judiciary victory to Dr Goodluck Jonathan who was the incumbent Vice President on the platform of the PDP at that time is a disservice to Jonathan.

Oshiomole only thanked President Yar'Adua for not interfering in the Judicial process.

Gandollar:
Oyatz, have you forgotten Oshiomole's speech after the courts declared him winner?

It's not actually Oshiomole per se but the APC already have strategies and contingency plans for all these factional chairman remaining or not remaining in the party.



Oshiomole has been in the Nigerian political space since 1982 when he was elected General Secretary of a Major Trade Union in this Country and eventually became National President of the Nigerian Labour Congress about 20years ago at a time almost nobody knew Jonathan and he became the Governor of Edo State in 2008 and National Chairman of the APC in 2017, so what did Jonathan contribute to his political career?

Jonathan was in the PDP while Oshiomole was in the ACN/APC, so what's the benevolence of Jonathan in his political career?

Gandollar:
Nobody knows it all!

If not for the benevolence of Jonathan, a monkey like Oshiomole wouldn't be in our national political space today ranting like he owns the world!

It's because Nigerian democracy is not yet matured.

LukasPodolski:
ACF is just a failed group, we all saw how they opposed Buhari, and the end of the day, what happened? Buhari won flawlessly.

I can see people from the eastern part deceiving themselves on this thread, as usual.

They're miscalculating again as always, the fact is that South Southerners are already embracing APC, we all saw the result of the 2019 presidential election, how APC has a reasonable number of votes(we didn't expect that) coupled with David Lyon massive victory.

Now instead of Igbos to start preparing for 2023, they are more concerned about how to defame Tinubu.

Now the shocker : Tinubu seem not to be after presidency (He loves being the party leader) by 2023 the SW will present an unexpected candidate (all eyes is on Tinubu)

This candidate preferably Osinbajo (a Christian that will get a huge vote from SS and NC) backed with a very strong Northern politician like the El Rufai or Zulum.

Or

Fashola, who is an household name in Nigerian political sphere.

Fashola will get massive support due to his performance as Lagos State Governor ( his Eko Oni baje slogan is known Nationwide and this will sell him faster)

Now if the plan works out, who will loose?

Igbos, why?

They will cry of marginalization for another eight years.

Now the shocking part.

Tinubu will personally deal with them in Lagos.


Let's all think out of the box.

Is the North not part of Nigeria? Let whoever wants to contest, be it Atiku, Kwankwanso or El-Rufai contest and build whatever bridge that suit your fancy.


The debates about 2023 election should not be reduced to Tinubu's affairs.

Tinubu is a private citizen, let him test him exercise his constitutional right to aspire for the highest post in the land.


If you don't like his candidacy, start campaigning for your candidate that's in the same class of morality with Angel Gabriel.

Macphenson:
Yes every Nigerian has a right to contest including the north, and every region also has a right to build their own political bridge.

Even Atiku doesn't have this level of confidence.

However, the numbers matters in an election. The S/East gave Atiku the second least votes in 2019.

SLAP44:
The whole SE and SS is locked for Atiku. Igbos are very loyal with their votes if they trust you. Atiku is credible as always and we don't have any fear about him.

When did you start caring about Tinubu?

Every Nigerian has a right to contest, this will help Nigerian democracy.

It is not compulsory to win in any election but we can't say some one should not contest because of the fear of being defeated.

Macphenson:
Please people should remove sniper from a certain Chicago drug Baron, so we don't have a sucide case again. Some people are in Sifia pains.

If the greed of South West will not allow power to return to south south or south east, then north is a goal.

I laugh at people championing Tinubu presidency, every indices and calculation is against him.

I have always asked, if APC gives Tinubu a Muslim south ticket, who will be his vice? A christian from the north? Or will he run a Muslim Muslim ticket?

Nobody has been able to answer that question till date.

If anybody is smart will see that the north is more comfortable with OUK than Tinubu.
OUK is technically their "son".

There's even a rumor that OUK is IBB's son, reason why all through his tenure as a governor, his father never identified with him as he was selling hangar in Aba.

Tinubu is in a political dilemma. His best option was Osibanjo who is a Christian and they will easily get a northern vice but he threw Osibanjo under the tyres.

2023 is really an interesting year.

And Tinubu became Treasurer of Mobile without attending any school?

ThatFairGuy:
Campaign after election. Besides, he's claiming he doesn't attend any school throughout his life? Smh

An asute Politician like Oshiomole already knows and plan for all these moves.

Meninmen:
As factional chairman, his job is to cause troubles within APC, right from selection of aspirants. His faction will bring out an aspirant, the faction loyal to Oshiomole will bring out their own aspirant. APC will have 2 aspirants. That's the beginning of confusion

Constitutionally, he will cease to be but the party may not challenge it in court before of the time frame and certain technicalities.

Swtbabyvee:
excuse me sir , are u telling me he will cease being governor if he leaves the party ? Cause that’s absolute ignorance. He has officially left the party

Very good observation.

After the defeat of Alh Atiku Abubakar, the North's consesus candidate in the PDP primaries of 2011, a journalist interviewed the then Gov Sule Lamido and asked why he didn't support the 'North's consesus candidate.

Lamido replied that 'in established constitutional democracies, it's unthinkable that an incumbent President comes to the convention of his party and the party votes him out. If the party should do that, it means that the party has passed a vote of no confidence on itself'



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Igbos, Bini and Yorubas used to be one people who practiced similar cultures and spoke the same language in the distant past (like a thousand years ago).

I think his nephew, Dr John Momoh is the Chairman of Channels T.V and it not affiliated to the APC the way AIT is affiliated to the PDP.

frankwandy:
channel TV owners, APC media of deceitful and liar's

But this hatred can cause you to have stroke o.

rowland545:
This ugly Edo people again....I hate Nigeria I hate Nigerian politicians ....I also hate APC and PDP....but above all I hate jubril more

Many Nigerians don't really understand party politics.

In Nigeria, it's the Political parties that contest for elections, the candidates are actually like captains of their parties' teams in the elections.

The party has a right to determine who should be the captain of their team before going into the electoral contests.

Swtbabyvee:
make I hear word! Why will they deny him the governorship ticket , a present governor representing ur party? .. what ever what ever the reason, is the same he’s making moves to leave also

Many of you just comment based on emotion without fully understanding the peculiarities of each situation.


1) No two elections are exactly alike. The Time ,The Place (States) and The Persons (the political actors) are different.

2) If Obaseki had decamped like Ortom about 6 months before the Primaries, his case would have been different.
Who decamp to a major political party four days to the Primaries and is rewarded with a Governorship ticket?



3) The PDP are also studying the situations and it's implications both political and LEGAL implications.

4) You don't understand politics , especially Lagos State politics like Ambode, neither do you have his level of exposure, expertise or experience.
You don't have access to the information he had and i seriously doubt it if you are wiser than him.

goaldynboy:
Why are all zombies and Tinubu's miscreants having this same similar thought process just to make it easy for APC to win the state!

Obaseki is not Ambode the coward that chicken out so easily! He has enormous power as the incumbent governor and will wield it to fight to the finish line!

Orthom of Benue State did it!!!!

Okay, you may be right bro.





















However, you need to improve on your grammar sir.

Confirmedzombie:
Obasek will still won the ticket. PDP is are just deceive us.

Obasek will still won the election. We dont need a suit sayer to told us this.

APC is finish in Edo state.

Buhari was an incumbent President and the candidate of his party, he didn't decamp to APC few days before the Primaries.

In established democracy, incumbent Presidents don't even go through primaries before their party give them tickets for re-election.

Do you see anyone contesting against Trump for Republican ticket in the upcoming US Presidential election? How many incumbent Presidents in USA or India undergoes primaries before re-election?

apokan200:
When apc gave Buhari automatic ticket in 2019 does that make the party appear cheap bro leave that cheapness consensus is also a thing in any political part

These situations are different ma.

The purchase of Governorship forms in the PDP has closed and the Primaries is already fixed for Saturday. Are you saying the winner of the primary should step down for Obaseki?

If Obaseki is serious about ending godfatherism, the most appropriate thing for him is to join and support whoever wins the PDP ticket and not to seek to be the PDP candidate. It is a potential pit fall for the PDP.

Depending on his desires, another alternative is to reconcile with the APC, withdraw from the APC Primaries and he can be compensated within the party. He has still contest for Governorship in the APC
and stand a good chance to emerge as a consesus candidate because he will only stay for 4 years ( like the Fayemi's case in Ekiti).

bright007:
It doesn't matter. Power belongs to the people. Remember how Oshiomole reclaimed his mandate when he was rigged out?

It was the people that stood behind him.

The electoral act had been amended to make this almost impossible.

fyneguy:


The winner of the primary will step down for him

This tribal bashing is unnecessary sir.

I have tried to study them and their perspectives on many political issues , including the reasons they accuse other of certain actions and I think their backgrounds and cultural worldviews project equality of everybody.

My grouse with some of them is when they assume every Nigerian must operate according to these backgrounds and cultural worldviews as exemplified by their difficulties in accommodating dissenting opinions.

Throwback:
Has anyone noticed that a notorious tribe of ingrates are always supporting back-stabbers, yet they always lament the most about betrayal?

Their most prominent desire in politics is betrayal and ingratitude, which they project in the political affairs of their own region and actively campaign for such in the politics of every other region.

For them, it is a must to always support the treacherous ingrate who was helped, while vilifying the benefactor as a demon who must be destroyed.


This is the same tribe that every governor they have had, have always betrayed the benefactor that got them into office.

Enugu
Chimaroke Nnamani vs Jim Nwobodo
Sullivan Chime vs Chimaroke Nnamani

Anambra
Mbadinuju vs Sir Emeka Offor
Peter Obi vs APGA / Ojukwu family
Obiano vs Peter Obi

Abia
Theodore Oji vs Orji Kalu

A tribe of backstabbers such that no clansman politician manages to get to the top before he is pulled down by his own people.

Azikiwe betrayed Biafra.
Ojukwu ran away as a historic coward and returned to support Fulani party.
Ojukwu was betrayed by his people and lost Senate in 1983 and Presidency in 2003.

Kanu betrayed his IPOB zombies by calling upon them to come and face a fatal battle with the Nigerian Army who he claimed were attacking him, meanwhile the terrorist had already fled the area with his beloved Mum and Dad. His only regret of his cowardice when he showed up after hiding for over 1yr, was that he was unable to flee with his dog who so perished. While Kanu betrayed his supporters, his dog stood his ground like a man that Kanu wasn't, showing that animals of the zoo have more courage than a life-loving, porn-filming, death-baiting affliction to his own people.


Amaka disappoint the whole world with betrayal and a continuous desire to promote treachery.