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Politics › Re: I'm suing Buhari and Bakare for murder!! by PapaBrowne(op): 4:49am On Apr 29, 2011

Gbawe:
Femi Falana turned him down flatly Apparently , Falana "dey laff" when he said NO.

Good you mentioned Femi Falana. FYI, Femi Falana is one of the lawyers that have petitioned the UN with a view of bringing Buhari to justice. Femi is on SERAP's Advisory board and handles most of its cases.

Apparently,egbon GBAWE na your ignorance we "dey laff" oh, .!

Politics › Re: I'm suing Buhari and Bakare for murder!! by PapaBrowne(op): 4:34am On Apr 29, 2011

Bassey131:
@ Beaf
@ PapaBrowne

Have you guys been in touch with each other yet? Re- ICC Networking. I need to contact you guys.

Beaf:
No, I've been watching this thread for updates.
In the meantime, SERAP has written the UN to visit, investigate and provide evidence to the ICC.
How do you wish to contact?

Sorry for not dropping any updates. Traveled without my laptop and was very busy so hardly visited Nairaland!
Every since you guys mentioned the ICC option, looks like the whole world started looking in that direction.

Made a few inquiries and apparently there is a huge number of petitions already sitting at the ICC requesting the "The Prosecutor" to look into the violence and bring to book those involved. Interestingly a huge number of them are asking for Buhari's inciting role to be investigated and where found guilty brought to book. Looks like the ICC is not taking this case lightly and would thoroughly investigate whether or not the violence was premeditated. Most of the petitions are filed by high profile Human rights groups like SERAP.

Interestingly, I'm finding that Nigerians have risen up and decided that enough is enough of these kinds of impunity. Private citizens are no longer waiting for government and are doing anything in their capacity to bring to book those that have used their mouths to shed blood!!

[b]I stumbled on an online movement that seeks to garner as many signatures as possible in support of the prosecution of Buhari. [/b]They already have over 200 signatures. That is very impressive considering they probably just started this week. We should promote the petition and seek to get it to over 10,000 signatures. http://www.petitiononline.com/promub11/petition.html

Every other possible means of bringing these evil perpetrators to justice is welcome.

Wole Soyinka has also spoken about the violence and he thinks they were premeditated with Buhari being complicit considering he refused to outrightly denounce the violence when he spoke first on TV. http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/news/4501-killings-in-the-north-planned-says-soyinka.html

Politics › Re: Arrest Me If You Can, Buhari Dares Jonathan <Misleading> by PapaBrowne(m): 3:55am On Apr 26, 2011

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=654277.msg8204767#msg8204767 date=1303782803]They are yet to arrest the known Imams and religions sect leaders who incite violence, because of irrational fear[b], how in the world can he arrest Buhari, a larger than life figure?[/b]

As for Oritsejafor, whose name literally means "God will not allow us to speak (presumably to avoid sin)" is definitely not living up to his name or position. What a shameful jobber.[/quote]Guy, FYI Nigeria has new owners!! The last string of Ahmadu Bello has just been wiped off with the victory of Jonathan!!
My advice for all those like Buhari still carrying this untouchable toga is to Fear, be Afraid and be very very Afraid!! The new owners would not condone impunity!!
Jonathan nor any other Nigerian would never have to arrest Buhari!! Its some guy from some Mexico or Madagascar or Netherlands or Nicaragua or any other signatory to the Rome convention that would do the handcuffing!! Surely, U don't understand what I've just said.

Politics › Re: The World Is Looking Out For Nigerian Content –subair by PapaBrowne(m): 3:35am On Apr 26, 2011

One of my heroes!! Like what this guy, Tony Subair does!!

Politics › Re: Lagos Is Too Expensive For Diasporans And Even Oyinbo Sef by PapaBrowne(m): 11:35pm On Apr 25, 2011

If anything, all I see is business opportunities!! It actually says that there are immense opportunities in Nigeria. Any good entrepreneur would provide better services at half these prices and make a kill!! Play the market on the reverse and pull the rug off the feet of the greed running the market currently.

For instance, hotels in VI charge an average of 30,000- 50,000 naira per nite and yet you pay for internet, breakfast, and everyother thing.
Solution. Simple. Start a well designed hotel that offers free internet, breakfast, chaffeur driven car, free laundry, etc and charge say 20,000. You will have 100% occupancy rate. So while your profits per head might not be high, you total profits would probably beat the competition considering you are utilizing 100% capacity!!

Bottomline is Entrepreneurs would sove the problem by providing better services at much cheaper prices. Its already happening in telecoms and it can happen in the other sectors!!

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Politics › Re: Eko Ile, Lagos Is A Benin Town Not Yoruba by PapaBrowne(m): 10:58pm On Apr 25, 2011

The Origin of Eko (Lagos)

There is a lot of traditional history at both Benin and Lagos ends relating to the origin of what is now Lagos, its ruler and it's connection with Benin. But perhaps to avoid inadequacies and controversy which the academics claim surrounds traditional history, we may like to hear what some modern historians have to say on this subject. Robert S. Smith, in his book of some principal Yoruba owns, especially in and around Oyo, and the westward expansion in the 17th century of Benin Kingdom with it's number of subject towns on or near to the coast, which included Lagos, went on to say this about Lagos in particular:

"It's name reflect it's past to the Yoruba it's Eko, deriving probably from the farm (Oko) of the earliest settlers, though alternatively-or additionally-it may be the Benin word (Eko) for a war-camp, We say Eko is a Benin word that means camp"

After describing the activities of the armies of Benin under Oba Orhogbua, culminating in his arrival at what is now Lagos, Smith went on to add:

"Sometime later the Oba appointed a ruler for Lagos to represent the interest of Benin and to forward tribute there. The man chosen is named in both Lagos and Benin Tradition as Ashipa"

Smith says that by Lagos account this Ashipa was an Isheri Chief, while the Benin account says Ashipa was a grandson of the Oba of Benin. We shall come to this later. Smith was, however, satisfied that Benin had established it's ascendency in Lagos and had founded a dynasty there at some period before 1700.The dyansty's dependence on Benin, Smith found, was emphasized by the appointment of another Chief, the Eletu Odibo, who alone had the right to crown the Oba and who in early times probably maintained close connection with Benin,.(Eletu Odibo is a corruption of the Edo equivalent Olotu Odibo)

"G.T. Stride and C. Ifeka, in their book titled Peoples and empires pf West Africa have this to say on the same subject:

Oba Orhogbua was clearly a strong warrior for he enforced tribute payments from all parts of the empire and in the middle 1550s conquered all the coastal lands up to Lagos where he left a permanent garrison. Tradition in Lagos says that their first Oba, the Eleko of Eko, was a son of the Oba Orhogbua of Benin"

It will be seen, therefore, that even if we were to disregard traditional history there is enough material from modern historians to confirm the fact that what is now Lagos was founded by an Oba of Benin who also gave it it's first ruler. But we really cannot disregard traditional history. In Benin tradition, and we believe the same of Yoruba and other ethnic groups in this country, one way to establish that an event in traditional history did occur is by the type of anecdote or adage that evolves from that event . Thus, for instance, We Edo people say that "Orhogbua gb'Olague,ona y'ukpe abekpen z'umwen rie Edo, meaning that Oba Orhogbua defeated Olague and used sword to bring his salt to Benin, This is in allusion of to the exploits of Oba Orhogbua while in his camp (Eko) from where he over-ran the place known as Mahin with it's ruler whom the Benin People nicknamed Olague. There Orhogbua discovered the common rock salt and brought it to Benin who thereby tasted it for the first time.

Now the name "Ashipa has featured quite prominently (and rightly too) in the history of Lagos. After the Oba Orhogbua returned to Benin from Eko, he appointed a commander or an administrator, who was called Aisikpa to look after the skeleton troop left in the camp(Eko) until he returned again from Benin. He could no longer return having seen the situation at home. The name "Aisikpahienvoborre" which means "people do not desert their home-land. "This is how Aisikpa, whom the Yoruba now call Ashipa, came into the Lagos (Eko) history. Eko is still there as the traditional Benin name for Lagos; Ashipa has been retained as a senior traditional chieftaincy title while his descendants now retain the modern name of Oba of Lagos. The interaction of Edo people with others in distant lands must have inevitably resulted in cultural exchanges.

Politics › Re: In Event Of A Successful Military Coup, What Happens? by PapaBrowne(m): 10:45pm On Apr 25, 2011

No fly Zones come to mind!! One thing I love about this election is how it drew out the perfect map of the two countries that would possibly emerge!! That map is simply divided in terms of Sharia states and Non Sharia states. Buhari won the Sharia states and Jonathan won the non Sharia states.

Any coup would put an end to the entity called Nigeria. Its so simple. There would be no need for a war. Calabar would become the new capital and Jonathan would serve as president from there. No need to talk too much.

Politics › Re: I'm suing Buhari and Bakare for murder!! by PapaBrowne(op): 8:14pm On Apr 22, 2011

Bassey131:
@ PapaBrowne,
Please consider also a possibilty of trial by the ICJ- International Court of Justice in The Hague for human rights violations. My understanding is that, the ICJ are looking at these killings.There is a similar case going on right now involving opposition politicians (from either Uganda or Kenya) for elections violence.
If indeed you have video evidence of what Pastor Bakare said, then by all means send it to ICJ. I am in support of your action. Some of you people may think this is funny, but PapaBrowne's impending legal action is quite real. I am sure a well versed Civil Rights Lawyer will guide you.

Beaf:
I believe this is the proper way to go, especially as the ICJ signalled interest two days ago. What we need to do is start up a social networking movement to gather evidence for submission to the ICJ. That network will also presure the ICJ for action and keep the matter burning in the Nigerian press.

Another thing such a movement can do is go out to actively aqcuire membership of the bereaved, those who lost businesses, wellbeing, were injured or traumatised. With that, carrying out a defining and Earthshaking class action will be straightforward and easy.

Nothing stops us from keeping both prongs of action going simultaneously. I hail PapaBrowne for his passion and starting our thought processes.

This is good. Bassey and Beaf, you guys are great! Never knew it was possible to take such a case to the international criminal court. After your posts, I have gone through the statutes of the ICC and not only is it very possible, they have two cases, the Kenyan one and the Ugandan one that is very similar to a case that could be built around Buhari/Bakare incitements! All that is needed is the accent of "The Prosecutor"!!

Building critical mass amongst the populace using social networks is the perfect starting point. Right now, the angst amongst the populace against Buhari is at it's peak, hence people would be glad to sign up! Something must be done to punish these kinds of evil men who wouldd stop at nothing to achieve thier selfish ambitions and this is the way to go!! The lives of all those killed is not less than the freedom of the evil tyrants!

I'm going to do more research on this angle and see how we can make it a possibility!!
The message would be spread and the world would hear that enough is enough of these kinds of violence!!

Politics › Re: I'm suing Buhari and Bakare for murder!! by PapaBrowne(op): 12:48pm On Apr 22, 2011

Andre Uweh:
I hereby pledge to support you.

Thank you Bro.

Politics › Re: Who Voted For This Man? by PapaBrowne(m): 12:46pm On Apr 22, 2011

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=651980.msg8178684#msg8178684 date=1303435867]I want you two above to be honest.

If you were your typical Northern aboki right now, who believes that his candidate (Buhari) won and was cheated out if a victory, how would you respond? (Like, at this point, I don't think any honest and unbiased person will not claim that the powers that be did not rig massively in the SS and SE.)

How would you feel? And if you act on your feelings violently, yes, you'd be in the wrong. But aren't those who rigged what should have been a free-and-fair election also in the wrong?

GEJ probably could have beaten Buhari in my opinion with no rigging. WTF did he do it? It makes no sense to me. I don't get it. Why? Why spoil what should have been a nice, clean win?

Let us put it this way. If GEJ rigs in the SW this upcoming gubernatorial election like he did in the SS and SE, there will be chaos in the SW too. If Fashola (for example) runs against him in four years and is rigged out in the same manner, there will be chaos.[/quote]You are being very one sided. I genuinely do not think these elections were rigged because of my experience at my polling booth. I voted in the south south in a high brow area(High brow areas have higher incidences of voter apathy). Turnout at my booth was 71%. PDP cleared 95% of the polls and the rest were shared btw invalid votes, Ribadu, Buhari and the others. The average turnout in the whole of the south south and south east was 66%. So please be scientific and not emotionally unreasonable when you say the elections in these regions were rigged. Give valid reasons why you think they were rigged.

Asides how about the massive rigging that took place in the core north with the underage voters and intimidation. What better proof do you need than the facebook comment of the corper that was murdered?
When you make the kind of comments you make, it hurts to know that you are in the comfort of your American home while people are been killed because Buhari in his deluded jihadist inclinations thinks the elections were rigged!! Wish you were a Christian living in Kaduna, Kano or any other of the Sharia states.

Politics › Re: I'm suing Buhari and Bakare for murder!! by PapaBrowne(op): 12:45pm On Apr 22, 2011

hercules07:
@Papa

If you feel like wasting your money please go ahead, I am sure some lawyers need the money, the people you should be suing is the FG as they were meant to provide security, they were complacent in their duties and you stand a better chance than by suing people who were not responsible for the dastardly acts.

Mr man, this your reasoning is sad. If you had the simplest form of empathy and understood the agony the families of those murdered are going through, your take on this issue would be totally different.
I really can't comprehend your morality. That you cannot see wrong in the killings, and rather choose to point fingers at the government is pathetic. Maybe those that were killed in the SEPT 11 attacks should have sued the American Government for failing to protect them. Maybe known assasins should be allowed their freedom, while we sue the police for failing to protect the populace. Maybe thieves should be left alone while we place the blame on the government for failing to provide jobs for them.
I'd like to remind you of the fact that if you venture into the north and stumble upon Buhari and his killers, you life would not be spared because you voted Buhari, it would only be spared if you have a Muslim name and can dance the Jihadist tunes. Pity you bro, pity you.

Politics › I'm suing Buhari and Bakare for murder!! by PapaBrowne(op): 12:01pm On Apr 22, 2011

The senseless killings in the north can be directly traced to the various statements and acts of incitements Buhari and also Bakare made on their campaign trail.
Their supporters had already begun showing signs of violent inclinations long before the elections. Rather than encourage these supporters, most of whom are violent minded, blood hungry, intolerant, uneducated lowlifes, to eschew violence and channel whatever grievances through appropriate means, they went to town inciting these lowlifes to unleash terror on innocent citizens.

Hundreds, including the very honorable youth corpers have been killed because of the statements of these two evil politicians and their cohorts. The 2007 elections were the most flawed in our history, but there were no violent reactions because Buhari didn't incite his followers in the direction of violence. Same as 2003. The Legislative and Senate elections in the North a week before the presidential elections were swept by the PDP, but there were no violent reactions. Why are we seeing violent reactions in the election that had Buhari on the ballot?? They had this planned out and it was obvious from their tone and the rhetoric that emanated from their orifice.

Buhari called for "Lynching" and Bakare talked about a "wild wild north". I also have a video where Bakare talked about and encourages the idea of his supporters going to the polling units with matches and a bottle of Kerosine, obviously to burn down INEC officials(Youth Corpers) suspected of rigging. In all these, they forgot to explain to their Blood Hungry, violent minded, intolerant, uneducated lowlifes what exactly is the meaning of rigging.

[size=15pt]I want to sue.
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We should be tired of complaining endlessly and instead take action against these evil men that continually sacrifice the lives of innocent Nigerians for their own selfish ambition.
Bottomline is I'm looking to sue Buhari and Bakare for murder and wanton destruction of lives and property and I'm very serious about it.

So I have these few questions for Lawyers and those that know law in the house.

1) What kind of charges can I file against Buhari and Bakare given the fact that I am not directly affected by this violence.
2) Would it be better to get those that have been affected directly to file a suit? For example, families of those that have been killed and folks that have had their properties destroyed!
3) What directions is a case of this nature likely to take?
4)[/b]What kind of evidence linking Buhari and Bakare to the violence would be permissible in court?
[b]5) When this case is done and when its been won, how many years are Buhari and Bakare likely to spend behind bars??
6) Can the law suit be filed anywhere in the country or only in the location of the violence?

Please all, feel free to advice. The lives of the innocent people that have been killed are not less than the freedom of these evil tyrants!

I am suing and I'm serious about it!! Don't care how much it would cost!!

Politics › Re: Attn. Jarus, Where Is Aisha2? by PapaBrowne(m): 11:35pm On Apr 19, 2011

Jarus:
I have issues with some areas:

1, 90% plus voters turn-out in some SE and SS is very curious

2, The 1.1m votes GEJ got in Kano is suspect. But I may be wrong here.

All in all, I honestly believe GEJ still stood a greater chance to win without rigging, the difference would not have been more than 2m.

Although this one is normal politics, if AC had delivered SW to Buhari thru alliance, that 2m difference would have been made up for and run-off set in.

In summary, I believe there was rigging but it only widened the gap from possibly 2m to 10m, and if they had struck the alliance run-off could have happened.

There was no state that recorded 90% voter turnout. http://nigeriaelections.org/presidential.php
Bayelsa recorded the highest turnout with 85%. Now thats understandable considering the excitement of the people of the state. The state is the smallest in Nigeria so 85% turnout there would not influence the result at all.

The average turnout in the SS and SE was 66%. Edo state recorded 37% while Ebonyi state recorded 47%.

I voted in the South south. My polling booth recorded about 520 voters out of 700+ registered voters. Now that's about 70% turnout. The result was PDP-479. ACN-17. CPC-12. This is statistically similar to the results INEC presented so I don't understand why Buhari who didn't bother campaign in the SS and SE would complain about GEJ scoring 99% in his stronghold.

As per GEJ's 1.1 million votes in KD, common! KD has the highest population of southerners in any northern state. Add that to Southern Kaduna. Add Sambo, Markarfi, Tafida, Yakowa and all the other PDP stalwarts the control the state and you will find the 1.1 million acceptable.

Politics › Re: My Plea To Jonatha by PapaBrowne(m): 8:14pm On Apr 19, 2011

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=650362.msg8164492#msg8164492 date=1303227264]Plz outlaw and the followings :

1. Polygamy

2. Underage marriage

These are [b]amongst [/b]the top factors plaguing Nigeria.[/quote]Interesting topic! I think rather than outlaw, considering the very sensitive nature of these issues(They are religion centric), carrots should be used to discourage especially polygamy as well as underage marriage. We should also seek to reconstruct the cultural framework of those engaging in such using education and enlightenment.
One thing to consider; In underage marriage, Wealthy families in Northern Nigeria would never give off their daughters at a young age. So finance might be one factor encouraging this practice amongst the poor. To discourage this, it would be ok to offer some extra welfare benefits to families that keep their daughters till say 21 before giving them off in marriage.
For polygamy, maybe government services like free education, free healthcare and all those other welfare packages should cover only the Children of the First wife.

Politics › Re: Meanings Of The Cpc Acronym by PapaBrowne(m): 6:08pm On Apr 19, 2011

Crying Presidential Candidate

Politics › Re: Ribadu's Expensive Gamble by PapaBrowne(m): 9:29pm On Apr 18, 2011

@OP
You can look at it from another angle. What if Ribadu was in this elections all the while just to scuttle Buhari's chances. For a job well done, he gets a top position in the Jonathan Government. He uses that position to build political capital and popular support in preparedness for 2015. He enters 2015 with more visibilty and political experience garnered from running in 2011. That to me is strategic thinking and I bet you it would serve him better than working in a Buhari party.
I also believe that was also Shekarau's strategy- use these elections to prevent a Buhari victory and garber enough exposure for 2015.

As per Tinubu, I always used to say it that since sometime in 2009, Tinubu was in the same ship with Obasanjo. They met sometime in that period.
They had one common goal- breaking the northern hegemony!! These two men are the greatest political strategists in Nigeria currently and they did a great job in pulling the rug of the northern hegemony!!
The Ekiti and Osun state victories were just trade-offs. Forget all those arguments between Katsina Alu and Salami.

Politics › Re: Bakare Said There Will Be 'wild Wild North' by PapaBrowne(m): 8:50pm On Apr 18, 2011

DrummaBoy:
It is not Bakare alone who saw that the north will boil if they are cheated in this election; any body who could read the political situation of Nigeria would know where we were going. GEJ had the moral right to give us free and fair elections; he had all the advantages: the SS, the SE and the overwhelming number of christians all over Nigeria who would vote for him from religious and tribal sentiments alone. But just as you cannot take the spots from the leopard, so also you cannot take rigging away from PDP. That is why the north is protesting; and unfortunately it has turned violent.

How do you explain GEJ winning 95% of his stronghold and coming to win close to 50% of Kaduna, Buhari's stronghold, if there were no hankiepanky some where. Buhari and El-Rufai as far back as Saturday spoke of planes air lifting already tumb printed ballot papers into the states in the north and no one bothered to investigate. If such happens in the opposition camp, what can we say happened in the SE and SW.

I pray the violence in the north stops, but bro, this is the price the nation pays for allowing rigged elections again. And Bakare, the prophet that he is has only prophesied it by saying there would be a wild, wild, north; just as there was a wild, wild, west when the west were cheated in the early 60s' and in 1993.

Mr man, if you've never been to Kaduna shut up and keep quite. Do you know how many Christians live in Kaduna huh

Isn't Sambo from Kaduna?? Isn't PDP very strong in Kaduna? Don't you think PDP has voters in Kaduna huh

About GEJ winning 95% in the SE and SS. Does CPC have any office in these regions huh

Did CPC place any adverts on Radio and TV in these regions?? Were there any Buhari posters in any of these regions?? How were the people of these regions expected to know that Buhari was contesting? And if they knew how were they expected to vote for him when they didn't know anything about his plans!!

The Buhari's CPC is as popular in the SS and SE as Chris Okotie's Fresh Democratic party is popular in the north. So why isn't Chris Okotie complaining that he was rigged out in the north?? Sometimes you folks just speak nonsense like your head is between your legs!!

Politics › Re: Goodluck Asks Buhari To Call His Supporters To Order by PapaBrowne(m): 8:28pm On Apr 18, 2011

dayokanu:
^^ You mean more people need to die before he swings into action?

Buhari did not take the oth to defend Nigerians GEJ did,

Buhari is not the CinC GEJ is.

Its like OBJ telling Asari, Gani Adams, Nwazuruike to call his boys to order when they are killing people

GEJ has the right of security over every Nigerian and not Buhari, Buhari is not the president GEJ is. That shows someone who cant take responsibility

If GEJ feels Buhari is promoting or inciting violence, why doesnt he deal with Buhari, Going by the kid gloves he handles violence in the past this is not surprising

I have never known you to be pathetically unintelligent, but I'm beginning to see U in that light!!

FYI, the military is already on ground in these areas curtailing the violence. One way to get the violence down is by asking Buhari to prevail on his supporters. And thats what the president has done.
Diplomacy comes first. Its only when it fails that force comes in.

Only a fool would take actions(such as you've suggested) that would lead to an escalation of violence, a potential coup and a potential civil war. And surely, the president is no fool, hence his actions are well calculated.

Your hatred for the president is surely making you sound like a below average, no nothing fella and I'm pretty sure you are not one!!

Politics › Re: Official Buhari/bakare Position On The Election by PapaBrowne(m): 8:11pm On Apr 18, 2011

Obviously, the Buhari camp has mental issues!! I voted in the south south and all the allegations here are clearly false as nobody I know experience any of these.

Bakare even lost his polling unit in Lagos by a massive margin to the PDP so how does he expect to obtain votes from the south south and south east when he didn't run one single TV or Radio advertisement. These men ignored these regions and expected to get votes here. Most people don't even know his party's name. The ballot papers didn't have contestants names, it only had party names.
Goodluck Jonathan on the other hand campaigned vigorously in the Core north. His party, PDP has loads of supporters in the north and yet he got only 30% of the votes there

The events currently happening in the north are the exact reason why Buhari was rejected by southerners. We've always known the man is a bigoted tribalist and his actions and that of his supporters have proved it!!

Funnily, even if the results of all the states in the south south and south east are cancelled, Jonathan would still win by over 2 million votes!!

Politics › Re: Where Are All Bb Supporters? by PapaBrowne(m): 1:05pm On Apr 18, 2011

hercules07:
BB all the way. We are here, we know the votes were rigged in the SS and SE, we will be here to witness goodluck dabaru una lives for another 4 years.

Lets assume for the sake of argument that the votes were rigged in the SS an SE. If you take out all of the SS and SE votes, Jonathan still wins by over 1 million. Please go and do the maths!! The difference is over 10 million.

Politics › Re: Kano Is On Fire by PapaBrowne(m): 12:52pm On Apr 18, 2011

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=649113.msg8154187#msg8154187 date=1303127256]Feels like 1983 all over again. . .

Don't know how terribly they rigged this election, but there is a limit to how much you can push people. I feel sad for the innocent ones caught up in this nonsense. This is really unfortunate and sad.[/quote]Kilode?, you are one of the most sensible fellows on Nairaland. I ask you, do you sincerely believe these elections were rigged?? If so, how?? I voted in the south south and my polling booth, located in a highbrow area recorded a turnout of 70+% with 510+ voters. The results were: PDP:479, ACN:17, CPC:12. My polling booth corresponded perfectly with the voting patterns across the south south and south east. So please explain to me how the elections were rigged??

Politics › Re: Kano Is On Fire by PapaBrowne(m): 12:46pm On Apr 18, 2011

reindeer:
Why are people so myopic in this?
You may not like Buhari but jumping out to say it is his fault is just being plain mischievous.
They've burn down the Emir's, burnt down their leaders' and you're claiming Buhari.
You are no better than the people doing the burnings and looting if your reasoning is like this.
Let us be cautious and say what we know, not what we wish or out of hatred.

Why is there no violence in the ACN's south west where PDP swept the elections huh

Why is it only in areas where you have Buhari strongholds?? Buhari called for lynching without educating the illiterate voters that there is the very likely possibility of him losing!! Buhari can stop this violence by simply going to BBC Hausa service and calling on all his supporters to end the violence. But no, this has always been his plan. This country might just have to be split so all this things can stop.

Politics › Re: Kano Is On Fire by PapaBrowne(m): 12:41pm On Apr 18, 2011

Lagosboy:
I am happy the youths are wise and are not being tribalistic about this. They are targeting their grievance at their leaders who they believed sold them out. However, the voilence is not needed and somebodey should please calm them down.

Some results were rigged and they have a right to protest rigged elections.

What results were rigged?? If any rigging took place it was underage voters in Northern Nigeria. My polling booth in the south south recorded 70% turnout with over 95% of voters voting PDP. This pattern reflected perfectly in the results so what rigging are U talking about??

Politics › Re: Kano Is On Fire by PapaBrowne(m): 12:38pm On Apr 18, 2011

Lagosboy:
Why are people blaming Buhari for this ? Some irate youths are going on rampage and people are screaming Buhari? Why is there no crises in his home state of Kastina.

The youths should calm down and not turn this int o a tribal thing. If they must fight let them fight their leaders who sold out.

All it takes for the violence to stop is for the leader of these guys,(Buhari) to come out and call for an end to the violence!! He started the call for violence by asking the illiterates to lynch election riggers without explaining to them what election rigging means. If he is a good leader and loves all Nigerians irrespective of your tribe or religion, he would call out on these people to stop the killing and violence. But as usual the General never condemns violence! He would probably not say a word!

Politics › Re: Kano Is On Fire by PapaBrowne(m): 12:26pm On Apr 18, 2011

papabrowne:
Buhari is dangerous for this country!!

He is encouraging lynching against supposed "riggers" but he failed to explain to his illiterate supporters what exactly rigging means!!!

These illiterates are going to lynch anybody caught voting for Jonathan!!

Buhari is on a dangerous mission! And I sympathise with all those clamouring for his ascension!!

When he loses and the almajiris he is inciting start killing non-muslims, they wouldn't spare any Buhari's supporters who don't speak Hausa!!

April polls: Lynch anybody who attempts to rig, Buhari tells Nigerians
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Politics › Re: Kano Is On Fire by PapaBrowne(m): 12:17pm On Apr 18, 2011

Why can't this Buhari of a man come out and say anything!! He started all this and he must stop it!! If these folks can't exist in peace, this country would be better of seperated!! We gain nothing from these folks so we loose nothing in a seperation!!

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Politics › Re: Buhari Supporters Congratulates Goodluck Jonathan by PapaBrowne(m): 12:13pm On Apr 18, 2011

Jarus:
I don't have any problem with it. I only hope his Niger Delta brothers will no longer claim that their money is being used to develop other parts of the country only, when they realized that N250 billion has been pumped by their son into campaign.

At least the money reflated the economy as it was spread across the nooks and crannies of the Northern Villages!! Appears like Tinubu self got a fair share!! Its called oil money and it was pumped out of Otueke!!!!

Anyways, these are just allegations from Sahara reporters and the like. Although this was an expensive election, it sure isn't anywhere in the region of what is projected!! Asides the money used surely wasn't from the coffers of the Government!!

Politics › Re: Okupe Said It , Now The Violent Bb Supporters Are Living Up To Their Billing. by PapaBrowne(m): 11:16am On Apr 18, 2011

The saddest part is that christian BB supporters that these violent CPC guys come across would not be spared in their carnage!! The onus now is on Buhari and Bakare to come out and call for an end to the violence!!

Politics › Re: Buhari Supporters Congratulates Goodluck Jonathan by PapaBrowne(m): 11:13am On Apr 18, 2011

Jarus:
Congratulations to GEJ, for winning the most expensive victory money can buy.

I will appreciate if you can declare your assets immediately after swearing in.

At least the oil money he used to campaign is coming from his village naaa huh

So if he shared some of it with the rest of the country shouldn't they be thankful eeh??

Politics › Re: Violence In Kaduna By Buhari/CPC Supporters by PapaBrowne(m): 10:25am On Apr 18, 2011

Pataki:
That does not solve the problem. Increase, bold and shout in capital letters, it does not solve the problem already created.

House arrest or room arrest. . . . it does not preclude those Northern youths from still protesting and vandalising anything PDP. We all know that when Jonathan went to Nasarawa, he was stoned there, only to now see that he won in the same Nasarawa state. . . .I laugh in Ijaw accent.

The mistake has been made inflating figures for Jonathan. . . . the logical thing now is: what is the way out?

You think arresting Buhari will solve this problem? Sit down and think again!

True, arresting him now might actually aggravate the the problem! But compelling him forcefully to come out and tell his suppoters to be calm would be in the right order!! Sadly Pataki, if you, a Buhari supporter were caught by these CPC supporters, you would be vandalized alongside anything PDP for the simple fact that you are a "Kufir". I was on Buhari fanpage yesterday and all I could see from comments there is an Islamic movement!!

Your talk about Nassarawa says clearly that you know little about many parts of Northern Nigeria. Nassarawa is a largely Christian state. Same with Taraba, Adamawa, Plateau, Benue and to a lesser extent Niger, Kaduna and Kogi. The results from these elections clearly point to voting on ethnic and religious lines so there was no way Buhari was going to win on this one!!

Your talk about inflated figures is absolutely untrue. I voted in the south south. My polling booth recorded a 70% turnout. About 520 votes cast out of about 700 + registered voters. The votes cast were PDP: 479. ACN: 17: CPC:12. This pattern corresponds perfectly with the results as announced by INEC. HERE: http://nigeriaelections.org/presidential.php
Before you start screaming inflated results why not ask those that voted in the SS and SE what turnout was like and use scientific means to crosscheck with what has been reported by INEC. IF at all anything, you will find that the NorthWest had overinflated registration figures but couldn't double vote because of the voting pattern applied. I don't even want to mention the underage voting. I will just let that pass.

And lastly, Jonathan would still have won even if he didn't get a single vote from the SS and SE. Do the maths broda!! There is a 11 million vote difference btw Jonathan and Buhari and the total number of voters in the SS and SE isn't up to that. This was a trouncing and those violent folks should learn to be good losers.

Politics › Re: Violence In Kaduna By Buhari/CPC Supporters by PapaBrowne(m): 9:01am On Apr 18, 2011

[size=16pt]IF BUHARI DOESN'T COME OUT TO CALL HIS BOYS TO ORDER, HE SHOULD BE PUT UNDER HOUSE ARREST!

THE MAN IS A SECURITY RISK!! SAME AS BAKARE WITH HIS INCITEFUL STATEMENTS[/size]

Politics › Re: Violence In Kaduna By Buhari/CPC Supporters by PapaBrowne(m): 8:58am On Apr 18, 2011

The sad reality is that these people would kill even those BB supporters that don't speak Hausa!!!

If you are a BB supporter and have family in the north, you better find a way to reach the violence inciting Buhari to call his boys to order!!!

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