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Your problem is never spiritual don't allow anyone made you to believe so.
It seems you are too over-spiritually minded and it's possible that you come from a background of an over-spiritually minded parents who perhaps have made you and your sibblings believe that any misfortune is caused by some spiritual forces, that is the mindset you must overcome.

You have to develope confidence in yourself. Only self-confident women are attracted to real men and only fake men are attracted to women who believe that their problems are caused by some spiritual forces.
You will agree with me that guys who must have approached you in the past were never serious people because they were all fake. This is so because they soon discover that the spirituality you believe were all illusion and not real
I will advice you to quit deliverance and those churches, they do you no good.
Rather, seek knowledge and understanding and start developing your minset.

What you women should understand is that 80% of what a man will marry is in your minset, not just your beauty.

GraGra247:
Aha!!... And freeze was forming innocent. In his hypocritical words, "I never insulted Oyedepo".

The internet never forgets.

daddy freeze says he never insulted oyedepo on his last comment that he corrected oyedepo over his opinion about women being submissive to their husbands not at previous times

Me, I tire for this guy o..

VBCampaign:
Oyedepo’s Statement, Daddy Freeze’s Errors and Ibiyeomie’s Threat

By: Deji Yesufu

David Ibiyeomie, a Pentecostal pastor in Port Harcourt, Rivers State, is the man in the eye of the storm. Ibiyeomie, in a two minute video, publicized by Sahara TV, is seen pouring venom on Daddy Freeze, an On-Air-Personality, who in recent years has gained reputation for criticizing Pastors. Ibiyeomie is quoted by Punch online as saying:

“I will never be alive and see anyone insult my father, you are not born, I will kill you, I will tear you into pieces. Insult me, I wouldn’t talk but insulting Oyedepo, I can’t be alive and you insult my father. The day Freeze insults Oyedepo, I will deal with him and arrest him. Who gave birth to you? Do you have a father? Show us his picture…”

It is obvious that Sahara TV intentionally quoted the pastor to drive home a simple point: a minister of the gospel should not be speaking like this; and they have succeeded in getting negative press to the pastor – if one were to consider the backlash that has been coming to the revered gentleman on social media since the video was published. While Ibiyeomie can come out to say that he was quoted out of context, the fact still remains that there is no context where a pastor should be found calling another man “a bastard” or condemning journalism; or exhibiting racial discrimination by calling some people “half caste”. He even went further to belittle the people of Somalia; as if they were not human beings. Ibiyeomie goofed badly and I would be returning to him before concluding this essay.

It was only when Daddy Freeze offered a response to David Ibiyeomie that the whole drama begin to take up some meaning and thus we begun to understand the context that Sahara TV denied everyone watching the video they published. A few days ago, David Oyedepo had published a tweet on his verified twitter handle that read:

“The only way to a fruitful marriage is total submission on the part of the wife. Until it is in place, every other thing she tries to do will be out of place. A woman who refuses to submit to her husband is disobeying God. As a woman, you might even be a minister of the gospel, and your husband is not; the Word of God still says to submit yourself to him. A submissive woman is precious in the sight of her husband – Ephesians 5:22.”

In short, the overall bishop of Otta was saying that if a marriage was to be fruitful, a woman must totally submit to her husband. Oyedepo referenced Ephesians 5:22 that reads: “…Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord…” Freeze said that while Oyedepo was right in his admonition to women to submit to their husband, this injunction is given without consideration to the whole picture that Ephesians 5 was teaching on the subject of submission. Freeze said, and he is right, that there was a verse 21 before you could read verse 22. Verse 21 of that passage reads: “… submitting to one another out of reverence to Christ…” He then made the point that it is after couples have learnt to submit to each other, that a man can now begin to demand submission from his wife. Freeze said that the clamor by church people for wives to submit to their husbands, without regard to the responsibility of men in their homes, as demanded by Ephesians 5, has produced many a home where men have become tyrants in their houses. Freeze was saying in essence: no man can demand for a woman to submit to him who is not living uprightly before God. Freeze is right but at the same time Freeze is wrong, and I want to spend sometimes to shed some light on his errors.

First, Daddy Freeze would need to appreciate the fact that David Oyedepo was right in his statement: a Christian woman that would allow for Christ to reign in her home and enjoy his blessing must be totally submitted to her husband. This is the teaching of the scripture. Oyedepo, in spite of his heresies on the Prosperity Gospel, knows these truths because he has some orthodoxy in him that can be traced back to some old school Christianity that our nation had once known. There is however a generation today that are trying to redefine the place of women in the home and Daddy Freeze is one of their teachers. It is true that verse 21 comes before verse 22. But any careful Bible teacher will realize that the context of verse 15 to 21 of Ephesians 5 is totally different from verse 22 to 33. Modern Bibles even help readers to realize this division. The whole of Ephesians is a letter to a group of Christians in Ephesus. Therefore, rather than Paul writing to just one person, he is writing to a collective; he is writing to the church in Ephesus. In verse 15 to 21, Paul is admoniting Christians on how they ought to relate to each other. It is in this context he then ends his admonition with “submitting one to another”. Verse 22 is the beginning of an admonition to married persons in the church. And it is here we see the woman is to submit to her husband. It is also instructive that it is the woman that he admonished first; as if to say the success of your home is dependent on your submission to your husband.

Now Freeze explains that Oyedepo overlooked the context before 22. Incidentally, Freeze does the same thing. He overlooks the context after verse 22, which states unequivocally: “…so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands” (verse 24). The command to the wife is to submit in EVERYTHING. I believe everything is the same as “total” and Oyedepo is right in saying that the Christian woman should submit to her husband in totality.

Daddy Freeze also brings up the issue of women not submitting to men because the men are adulterous, not providing for their homes and rebellious. Freeze however overlooks a certain assumption in the writer’s mind: which is that the couples he was writing to were not unbelievers but Christian men and women. This presupposes the fact that when women will choose the men they wish to marry, they ought not to make choices in the flesh. They should not marry a man because he has a job, or a car, or he is wealthy. Christian women should marry Christian men, if they are going to have peace in their homes. A man who is committing adultery is not a Christian and most of the people who manifest these traits in marriage have been doing it long before they were married. Our sisters should first ascertain the fact that they themselves are believers and they must possess discernment to marry Christian men. In cases where the mistake has been made, the woman must bear her cross; while she trusts God in prayers.

Freeze brought up a last point. He said that there was one lady on Instagram who had a large following and was very wealthy. He said when this woman’s husband realized she had potential to make money, he resigned his job and became her camera man. The two of them are today enjoying the benefit of the woman’s success and wealth. Freeze said that most Nigerian men cannot do this; that they will be standing on “submit to me” and miss such opportunities.

My response to Freeze is simply this: the Bible commands Christians to obey it and to leave consequences to God. Financial prosperity is not proof that God is in something; if not, the very errors that we are condemning in David Oyedepo, where he gives the impressions that gain is godliness, is the very error Freeze is propagating too. God commands women to submit to their husbands. God commands men to love their wives. Every one of us will face God at judgement as regarding how well we kept his commandments. Women were not asked to submit to their husbands only when the husband loves them; neither are men asked to love their wives only when they submit to them. Everyone is expected to obey God and everyone will reap the fruit of their obedience in this life and in the life to come. The chief error I locate both in Daddy Freeze and even David Oyedepo is the tendency to just call down scriptures and their commandments on people, without paying attention to whether or not the people you are speaking to are Christians. Ephesians 5 was written to Christians. If the people reading it or preaching from it are not converted people, they will wrest the scripture for their own selfish ends.

Having made the point about Daddy Freeze’s errors, it is important we examine David Ibiyeomie’s words one more time. The man has received sufficient condemnation from Nigerians and I would not want to add to his woes. Suffice to say this: less than two years ago, a freelance journalist in Ibadan, Kemi Olunloyo, published some damaging stories on Ibiyeomie. Those stories concerned something around some alleged illicit relationships he had with some female Nigerian actress. Olunloyo had been given the story by an insider in Ibiyeomie church and she foolishly published them. One day, policemen stormed Ibadan all the way from Portharcourt and arrested Madam Kemi. She was driven all night to Rivers’ State; where she was slammed in detention. She would eventually endure an almost year long legal battle with her accusers. By the time she emerged from that ordeal, she had been thoroughly dealt with. The judge acquitted her but made it clear that she was not to talk about the matter to the press. This is the threat that Ibiyeomie issued to Daddy Freeze and ladies and gentlemen, this man has the financial powers to carry it out. Some Nigerian policemen are so compromised that chicken change can be thrown at them and they will gleefully persecute anyone that their sponsors send them to.

The other veiled threat was the threat to the life of Daddy Freeze. While Ibiyeomie’s words can be regarded as grandiloquent and bombastic grandstanding, they should not also be overlooked. Words take up a life of their own and a threat can very easily be carried out. I hope that beyond crying out on social media, Daddy Freeze will report this matter to law enforcement and the police will invite the pastor for talks.

Source: https://textandpublishing.com/oyedepos-statement-daddy-freezes-errors-and-ibiyeomies-threat/

just one question.

Who is a Christian or who should a Christian be?

All the times that Daddy Freeze was insulting pastors people did not advice him to stop it.
Only one time that Pastor David Ibeyeomie threaten to deal with Him is time that people are criticizing Pastor David Ibeyeomie for threaten Daddy Freeze.
you people don't know that the same blood that runs in your vein is the same blood that runs in Pastors vein.
pastors are human beings like you and me.
Why is Daddy Freeze now scared of Threats ?
I thought He enjoys criticizing Men of God.
He don enter one Chance.

someone issuing out threats is always at disadvantage because the one that is threatened can easily make a case against him.

Right now, Pastor Ibiyeomie heart is not at rest and is tormented with fear that if this freeze of a guy now lay complaint and the police invite him for his numerous threats what will become of me?

fubbyy:
My twin sister just got a teaching job and I was the one that gave her the connection, before the lock down, she went and complain to the owner of the school about the level of sexual immoralities in the school

Boys and Girls having sex in the toilet, inside classes after school has dismissed, the owner of the school refused to pay attention to it

The man called them meeting recently in preparation of the school resumption, after the meeting, the man called her aside and told her to overlook the students immoral behavior that trying to stop them will make them loose students

That he doesn't want the kids running elsewhere to register for waec, that if the behavior is too bad for her to beer that she can quit

What do you think

lie, no proprietor will say that

NollywoodFreak:
1. Abused him for being bald head
https://www.pulse.ng/communities/religion/daddy-freeze-controversial-oap-calls-bishop-oyedepo-screeching-bald-headed-fowl/6cyt4ld

2. Accused him without evidence that he doesn't pay enough salaries hence accountant stole from him
https://www.redigionng.com/2020/01/11/daddy-freeze-defends-accountants-who-stole-money-from-oyedepos-church-blames-the-bishop-for-not-taking-care-of-his-staff/

3. After the death of a winners pastor, abused him for cursing fulani killers
https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/08/11/daddy-freeze-attacks-oyedepo-for-cursing-fulani-herdsmen/

4.Mocks him for a lie
http://zimbabwe.shafaqna.com/EN/AL/672830

so why didn't Ibiyeomie responded to all these insults since 2019?
Why is he taking it personally over a recent post that didn't insult oyedepo?
Is ibiyeomie the type that is putting people on his mind since 2019, what kinda pastor is that?

Nor mind that Pastor Ibiyeomie

Ken4Christ:
Abraham bosom no longer exist. They were released from there after Jesus rose from the dead.

Matthew 27:52-53
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

ok

JourneytoEL:
I don't really understand your question,but the bible passage I quoted should answer it

ok

Mtschewwww:
The bible says in john 10:10 that
"the thief (devil) comes to steal, to kill and to destroy." It further said in Matthew 25:14.
"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels."
The devil has been known to be a destroyer of peace and life, and hell fire has been said to be his final home specially prepared for him.
The issue is the devil has sent many souls to hell, and he still moves about seeking for more people to devour before he joins them there after his final judgement.
My question is what if the devil decides to repent of his evil ways and reconciles with God, what happens to those who died in sin and what happens to hell prepared for him and the fallen angels?

in that case, they will become the Satan while Satan will become saint

JourneytoEL:
I'm not the o.p, but it is believed that Abraham's bosom was the place where the souls that died before Jesus stayed. At his death this souls were taken to the present heaven with Jesus as the first son. I would have loved to post many bible verses about this mystery but I don't have the time. However, let me share few. This happened when Jesus died, Matt 27:51-53, Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many." 1 Peter 3:19 says, By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison.

hmm!
Interesting!
Does this scripture also suggest that many dead people resurrected from the grave after Jesus Christ resurrected in the real sense?

Yo!

Ohh! Do people hate that dude that much?
He is a conservative fundamentalist I'm not surprise

There were life transactions between God and mankind and those transactions were his covenants.
Whatever covenants God had with mankind before Abraham will not be my reference, but starting from the old covenant


Genesis 15: 6 Abram believed the LORD, and he credited it to him as righteousness.

So much more, every Christian believing in Christ in this new covenant that we are is counted for us as righteousness.

Now, having said God's covenants are life transactions between God and man, the new covenant through Christ was the finished transaction that gave us life.

John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said,It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Then how come that some Christians today are still expecting rapture, end of the world from God even when Christ has finished his covenant with us, could that not be them trying to scam God?

Please, there is nothing left for God to do again after sending Christ, he has done everything and the transaction is closed.
For you today to start expecting rapture, end time, Armageddon or whatever, you are crossing your limit.

Use the life God has given you today and be useful to humanity and this earth, the world needs you.

seyi360:
I won't go back and forth on the scriptures I already espoused.


Your attempt to twist the truth cannot change the credibility of the truth

However, I put the scriptures below to you



Hebrews 6:4-6
[4]For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
[5]And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
[6]If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.


I also know you will attempt to manipulate it, go ahead, give it your best shot

no!
I understand why you feel I'm manipulating it. It's because I'm presenting these scriptures from the angle that you didn't see it when you were reading it.
But let the truth be told, there is time factor about these scriptures that we should not neglect.
There was the time Jesus was on earth and was not crucified, there was no salvation then, salvation only started after Jesus was crucified and resurrected that is the truth you can't dispute

As for this scripture you quoted : I'm not disputing that a Christian cannot fall away from his faith and looses his salvation. But all I'm saying is, while the Christian remain a Christian without denying Christ he remains saved forever

seyi360:
Can you please do us the honor of presenting the textual exegesis.

check my response to the op

seyi360:
Firstly, Jesus said. "No man having put his hand to the plough and looking back is fit for the kingdom of God" Lk 9:62

The man whose hand is already on the plough cannot be labelled "unbeliever". He is saved and on his way to heaven. However, he looked back, which means he's a backslider and was declared unfit for heaven.

what does it mean to backslide?
It means going back to continue with the sin one has repented of.
That has nothing to do with this scripture you quoted

The same way Lot's wife who was held by Angels on her way to safety looked back at Sodom and Gomorrah and became a pillar of salt.
Hence, once saved is not forever saved.

very wrong conclusion!
Lot's wife and Sodom and Gomorrah were of the old covenant while salvation of the new covenant, so your argument does not follow.

Ezekiel 3: 20.
"Again, when a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die in his sin and the righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered anymore ......

your analogy here though is right in reality but has nothing to do with salvation

Matthew 7:21-23
"Not every one that saith unto me Lord Lord shall enter the kingdom of my father, but he that does the will of my father in heaven

the question you should ask yourself is, was there salvation at the time Jesus made this statement?
The answer is no!
Why?
Because Jesus has not yet been crucified.

So, you are totally wrong!

Many will say to me in that day Lord have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you, depart from me ,ye workers of iniquity"

are the many Jesus was talking about here believers(saved people)?
The answer is no!
Why?
Because Jesus has not yet been crucified.
So, this statement does not apply to believers of today

An unbeliever cannot cast out devils using the name of Jesus
An unbeliever cannot prophecy in the name of Jesus
An unbeliever cannot perform miracles in the name of Jesus
Hence, the people Jesus talked about were born again, spirit filled believers, workers, mature Christians, gifted and anointed believers, Pastors, Prophets, Bishops, etc.
However, these saved men had secret sins, unconfessed sins they nurtured in their closets which made them workers of iniquity.
Hence, once saved is not forever saved.

Luke 9:1

"Then he called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over devils and to cure diseases"

Dear readers, Judas Is Cariot was one of these 12 who got power and authority. But because there was the secret sin of covetousness in his heart, despite his proximity with God, the devil capitalized on that sin and used him to betray Jesus.
Hence, once saved is not forever saved.

Hebrews 6:4-6

"For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and were made partakers of the holyghost
And have tasted the good word of God and powers of the world to come
If they shall fall away, to renew them unto repentance, seeing they crucify to themselves the son of God afresh and put him to an open shame."

Here ,it is established that falling away is possible.
Hence, once saved is not forever saved.

1Corinthians 10:12
"Wherefore, let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall"

Its abundantly obvious from the scripture above that falling away is very possible.

I could go on with more scriptures, but I'll rather stop here.
As a believer , you have a responsibility to sit up and hold tightly to what you have otherwise you may lose it.

oga,correct yourself!
You are not saved because you do not commit sin, you are saved because of grace

NobleSeed:
The bitter truth some so called church goers who call themselves Christians fail to reckon with.

people like you don't read between lines to understand the context, you just conclude from your emotions

una don come again

Ken4Christ:
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom:

we know that Abraham bossom isn't heaven, Is Abraham bossom also real?
If yes, then why is it not popular as hell in the minds of people today?
Does it mean that people like to hear more about evil(hell) over good(Abraham bossom) ?

Just asking.

schang1984:
I have heard about real EVIL witches in Nigeria. Are the rumors true?

they are all fictional beliefs of primitive Africans, There is noth like that in reality.

Rossinky:
No be una fault.

It is our federal govt that is even wasting time and stooping low to be exchanging letters with you.

By the time we sponsor rebel movements to destabilize your country and scatter that your ''peaceful society'', una eye go clear.

Tiny country feeling funky.

very stupid talk, you get sense at all?

michlins:
Arsenal has the most classy fans. From Atiku to many others including me and now this pastor

including me

longetivity:
please stop quoting me

if you like yourself don't quote me again

peggywebbs:
Where did you find this in the scriptures. That heaven is in your spirit? Seriously?

are you hearing this for the first time?

Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Why do we do this as Christians. Coming up with different doctrines. The bible is clear on heaven, earth, hell fire and judgement.

true!
The bible is clear on this issues. But were not getting it

Is it not the same bible that says that says

"not everybody that calls me lord lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven."

Mattew 7:21

Take note: Jesus made this statement before he was crucified.

you really have to read that book called bible as if you want to know everything in it before you can understand what jesus was trying to explain here.

Now take a look at this,

Matthew 14:14 And Jesus went forth, and saw a great multitude, and was moved with compassion toward them, and he healed their sick.

This means, a great multitude followed him and he healed them. But when it was time for him to be crucified they all ran away Matthew 26:56, therefore few people out of multitude actually entered the kingdom of heaven.
And what was the kingdom of God then?
It was his crucifixion and resurrection(I'm using WAS because it is past tense now. You will need your brain to think here)

Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luke 13:25 WHEN ONCE THE MASTER OF THE HOUSE IS RISEN UP.....

So, the kingdom of God was his resurrection if you understand that parable
It was like a gate that ushers people from the old covenant into the new covenant

Please stop misleading people I beg. Leave the job for minsters and if you are one study the scriptures with your elders in the ministry. Do not interprete scriptures without understanding it.

I believe you understand what I'm saying

Really?
So, why didn't you go to isolation center all these while and why didn't any covid-19 patient come to you

longetivity:
mtcheew

you have nothing to say

longetivity:
e dey ur body

na small you dey see so!
Cross Nigeria come see wetin una type dey suffer from white men, when una won get sense

espn:
Nop because I already knew it was from someone with very low IQ.

then prove it!
Pick any aspect of the post and analyse with your high IQ let's see

espn:
I didnt bother to read the nonsense.

because of fear of facing the truth

longetivity:
religious bigot

like you