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I'm hoping you will come and turn things around

jaephoenix:
What do u mean by 'errors in religion?'

you will need to be in a particular religion and study their holy book for you to detect and know their errors, otherwise there is no way another person can explain to you for you to understand.

jaephoenix:
You are right. That's why atheism is on the rise. The brainwashing is getting less effective

atheists are taking advantage of the errors of religion to thrive. But if theists are willing to correct those errors atheism will have little or no space to breath.

khia:
Of course it's possible, people have been lied to about the story of baby Jesus and his parents for over 2000 years. The story of the character baby Jesus is a re-creation of the Egyptian God that was created over 2000 years before the fairytale of white Jesus was made-up.

The story of the Egyptian God's birth is the exact same story of fake white baby Jesus. These are lies that people have been told over many centuries and they still believe.

1. The Messiah is Jesus.

2. Jesus is God.

3. Christmas is the birthday of the saviour of the world.

4. Jesus died on the cross.

5. Jesus resurrection.

6. Jesus died for our sins.

7. Santa Claus.

8. The Easter Bunny.

9. Mohammed.

10. Allah.

OK, do you have a story of the Egyptian gods that you know?
May be you should post a copy or link here to prove what you are saying that the story is exactly the same as that of Jesus birth.

zimbolaa:
lol, even though I know where you're headed bro, your teaching is misleading and poisonous to Christendom.

then you have to prove that it is

I agree with you that a Holy Ghost filled child of God cannot be possessed by an evil spirit, however, the truth is that not all Christians are Holy Ghost filled.

it seems you don't know who the holy ghost is and what he stands for. Do you think the holy ghost is any mans birth right? God is not a respecter of any man. On the contrary that not all christians are holy ghost filled:

Acts 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.(all of them, no exemption)

Remember these people receiving the holy ghost were regarded as unclean people by the Jews. God did not wait for any of them to repent of their uncleanliness. Infact, Peter did not finish what he was saying when the holy ghost fell on them, they all marvelled.

Now, think about that.

You forgot the fact that Christianity today is just a nomenclature unlike in the days of old when Christians were like Christ, filled with Holy Ghost and power.

that is not correct!
There is no difference between the Christianity of bible days and the Christianity of today, The only difference is time. Things have changed with time, but it is still the same Christianity, the same Jesus Christ in us, the same God.

Today, we have Christian prostitutes, robbers, thieves, murderers, fornicators, gays, necromancers etc. They all come to Church and receive communion.

the same kind of people were also Christians in those days, infact terrible were used by God. Even Peter himself was not even a good person.

The truth is that a good number of them don't do these things because they love doing them but because a force stronger than them is controlling them and as such, only deliverance until they're totally free is recommended.

the emboldened is the problem i have with Africans.
We just assume there is a force controlling people but that is not true.
We Africans are too primitive, superstitious and are afraid for nothing.

That is why when Jesus converted Mary Magdalene, he didn't just stop there but rather went on to cast out seven demons from her.

you are yet to prove that Mary Magdalene was a Christian as at the time Jesus casted demons away from her.

So, pastors who are in deliverance ministries are doing the right thing.

no they are not!
Let them go cast out demons from non Christians like Muslims and leave Christians alone then i will know they are doing the right thing

Other pastors envy them and talk rubbish because they don't have the power to cast out demons. I am not surprised though for even Christ was so attacked by Pharisees when they said he was casting out demons by the power of Beelzebub. Today, we no longer have Pharisees but fake Prophets who go about attacking men of God who are into deliverance ministries, misleading their members with wrong doctrines. As long as we continue to have Christians in our Churches who are not Holy Ghost filled, routine deliverance is necessary until the evil spirit possessing them gives way for the Holy Ghost to possess them. A Christian that is not Holy Ghost filled is a potential vessel for evil spirits any day anytime especially those ones who engage in evil communication with negative voices in their mind.

I tell you one truth. If we have just one pastor in Nigeria that is doing the right thing, no body will critize him.

Matthew 22:46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.(criticize him anymore).

This happen because Jesus was able to explain himself.

When you hear people continue criticizing a pastor without stopping somewhere it means there is something the pastor is doing that is not right, therefore he cannot explain himself.

zimbolaa:
Which miracle or words of Christ in those days involved a Christian? In other words, everything Jesus spoke about before He died are not for Christians since there were no Christians then?

don't drag it out from what I'm saying.
I didn't say the word is not for Christians to read.
I say the illustration Jesus Christ put out there did not involved any Christian.
I mean, a Christian could not possibly be the one that evil spirit was casted out and the evil spirit now came back again with seven other evil spirits as there was no Christianity then

zimbolaa:
Have you ever read about the return of evil spirits? Luke 11:24--26

there are no evidence in the scripture that it is involving a Christian.
As a matter of fact there was nothing like Christianity as at the time just Jesus spoked that because he has not been crucified.

khia:
[/b] It only proves that a lot of people are brainwashed.

for how long, since approximately 2000 years ago?

Let's look at it this way, there was a time when the church used to teach people that the earth is flat, a lot of people believed that error and that is brainwashing but that didn't take long before the truth came out.

You cannot brainwash mankind for a long period as 2000 years it's not possible. Especially now that people are embarking on research and new ideas and knowledge are being discovered.

zimbolaa:
In essence, what you're saying is that a possessed non-christian can be conducted deliverance and led to Christ. After that, there's no need for any subsequent deliverance?

that is exactly my point

zimbolaa:
Christ's injunction in Mark 16:17 is supposed to be applied where then?

THEY shall cast out demons.
THEY refers to Christians casting out demons from who?
Certainly from non Christians : example Muslims.

A situation where a Christian is casting out demon from a fellow Christian is a scam, deception.
For instance, pastor D. K Olukoya or Chris Okafor singled out a Christian in their church for deliverance (because a Muslim cannot possibly be in that church). That is a scam, contradiction and deception to the highest order.
But a lot of Christians don't know it is.
Why?
Because they have never asked themselves this question : was there any case recorded in the bible where a demon was casted out from a Christian?

YoungLionken:
Your explanations are accurate.

But I think we still need God's intervention in the affairs of the country now more than before...

very true!
We all need God's intervention. Even the United states, Britain, China and other developed nations who don't have the kind of problems found in Africa, they all have their problems that require God's intervention.

That's why, the only thing we can do is just to pray.

But when we pray, pray, pray and there are no answers do we blame God?
The answer is no!

Rather, we should start thinking solutions to our problems by ourselves just like other nations are doing.

Ewo!
The earthquake in Spain
where have you been?

My only regrate is, no C. Ronaldo.
Otherwise, i for stake : straight win, gbaam!!

But, however..
however

Danzakidakura:
Go get a job first go hustle and wait for Gods time. If you have a call of God have you taken your time to know when and where he want you to answer his call. Go hustle make money so that when you tell people the lord is good they will all see it in your appearance. God bless your vision.

so that when you tell people the lord is good, they will see it in your appearance.

This your sense eh

OLAADEGBU:
Get an afterlife!

hmm

Very valid questions but a lot on Christians will not like the answers to these questions because the answers does not meet up to their wicked expections and desires.

YoungLionken:
You know, often times, we talk about God's blessings,favours and protection,etc. But it's not different from what pagans and others enjoy too.

A Christian gets a job and attribute it to God,in a company where an atheist is the director.

Christians as well die in auto/plane crash, just like others.

there is a scripture that explains this :

Matthew 5:45 ...For He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

If God is not biased but blessed the good and the bad equally what will make a Christian think that God should favor him first over an atheist or a Muslim who is not bad?
You see why i say the desires and expections of most Christians are wicked?

We read the Bible of how signs and wonders happen physically and instantly (especially the old testament),but can we say same of it today.

that was in the old testament!
Things are better now we don't need God's supernatural interventions in our affairs anymore, how long will God continue to do that?

Matthew 23:37 ...how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (a parable which means how long will God intervene in the affairs of the isrealites supernaturally or otherwise as he did in the old testament).

So, miracles, signs and wonders wasn't meant to last forever, only love which is greater than miracles was meant to last forever.

1)So what special blessing, favor and so,have you received that made you believe more in Christ?

we believe in Christ for eternal life, nothing more. John 3:16.

Life is more important blessing than supernatural interventions. We just keep seeking for more like Oliver twist, we will never get anything but life.

whatever we do with the life that we receive will now determine our blessing.

2)Apart from the Bible,what other special proof do you have to prove God's existence?

the fact that Christianity is the largest religion currently on earth is enough proof of God's existence.

Was there any false prophet in the new testament among Christians?
If yes, what were they preaching that made them false prophets?

Is there any false prophet among Christians today?
Are pastors of today who are misunderstanding scriptures and are teaching wrongly false prophets?
Is wrong teaching the same thing as false prophecy?

Spirituality and Business definition according to Oxford English dictionary :

SPIRITUALITY
The quality or state of being concerned with religion or religious matters.

BUSINESS
The activity of making, buying, or selling goods or providing services in exchange for money.

if this man is selling religious matters to you and what he is selling is not accurate and you are buying it, obviously your problem is you cannot read, perhaps you are illiterate.
Because the holy book containing the accurate religious matter is free, only you can read it and develop your mind with the truth and be free. No one can help you do that, not even Adeboye or Oyedepo who are still struggling to understand the religious book themselves.

That is the tradition of the church pastor kumuyi thought people as moral standard that is making the people not different from animals

AwkaetitiBabe:
The spirit wivr and husband thrive in a sinful person. Especially in one who engages in sexual immorality. Not everyone who is a Christian is saved, u don't know what they do behind closed doors.

don't underestimate the power of Christ resurrection and hype spirit wife and husband, Christ only came to save sinners therefore people engaging in sexual immorality are the targets of his salvation. Meaning, everyone believing in Christ are all saved and have the spirit of God and not any spirit husband or wife whether they sinful or not and that is grace.

As many that believe to them he gave power to become sons and daughters of God.

AwkaetitiBabe:
Old testament

ok, old testament.
There was no Christianity in existence then.
Then how come Christians are the ones suffering this spirit wives and spirit husbands when scriptures made it clear in

1 Corinthians 12:3....and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Meaning, all Christians have the holy ghost.

Can someone have the holy ghost at the same time have spirit husband or wife?
I don't think so!
To now say a Christian can have spirit husband or spirit wife is contradiction of scriptures.
It's either that scripture is lying or the op of this thread is the one lying.

AwkaetitiBabe:
There's an account of such in one of those books omiited from the Bible we use. The angel told the man to burn incense of fish liver to kill d spirit husband. Check dem catholic bible

was the omission done in the new testament or the old testament?

To those who know him very well, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome of Christ Embassy Church is a flamboyant and stylish man of God. Besides, he loves to engage in the celebration of life and his birthday celebrations are always carnival-like. However, this seems to have stopped since his beautiful wife, Anita, left him years ago.
Things have since changed with the popular pastor as he seems to have become more modest and quiet. His new-found lifestyle came to the fore again recently when he marked his 56th birthday low-key.
It was a simple occasion devoid of the usual loud noise and flamboyant celebrations. In 2014, the world received with shock the news that Anita had filed for a divorce, accusing her pastor-husband of indulging in illicit affairs with female members of the church. This was after months of rumours suggesting that all was not well with the marriage.

In the following months, their marital crisis got messier as both Anita and Oyakhilome’s lawyers issued statements that suggested the damage to the relationship was irreparable.

hooha:
Give one person in the Bible who had cancer. It doesn't mean cancer does not exist. Whom Jesus frees is free indeed from spirit wife powers and all.

so,you mean just like cancer did not exist in bible days spirit wife and husband did not exist too. That spirit wife and husband is a new disease in Christianity?

Omo

Yes

In summary, tithing works like cause and effect, it happens by chance. Sometimes it doesn't work inspite everyone knowing you, but when you are lucky it works. There is no supernatural string attach to tithing. God isn't responsible for the fortune one may get from tithing.

If you have ever been committed to the course of a particular church you attend, you are there when the pastor calls for finance to fund a particular project you sow the seed, you are an active worker in a particular church unit, everyone in the church knows you and see you putting extra effort towards achieving the goals of the church unit in question at the end the pastor has noted that you have been a consistent tithe payer because of this you become the favourite of the pastor, the day you are financially broke what do you think will happen when someone in the church knows you are broke especially when the church is a very large one?

Someone just called you one Tuesday morning in your office and requested that you send him your account number that God want to use him to bless you. You are broke, you don't know who called you, you received the alert and the amount of money is large, you smiles without thinking how the money came about, to you it's a miracle of paying tithe, tithing works.

Another church member listens to your testimony in church how God lifted you up from financial mess because he promised in Malachi that he will open the window of heaven and throw out blessings to you that you can't contend. He is not an active member of the church, no one in the church knows him talkless of the pastor. And because he listens to your testimony he decided to try.
At the end of the month he pays 10% of his monthly income hoping to receive a similar miracle when he is broke. But he was broke no one called him in his office to send his account number, no favor whatsoever from anywhere except the end of month when he is hoping to receive his next salary. By the time the month ends and he receives the salary will he go back to pay the 10% again?
Only mumu will do that, a wise man will start becoming a committed member of the church first let everyone including the pastor know him before resuming the 10% percent payment, otherwise he will remain broke all his life.

Give one person in the bible who had similar experience of spirit husband or wife?

The scripture says do not touch my anointed ones, meaning do not harm them physically or beat them up ,It didn't say do not criticize them.

when did God promised Nigerians a great turn around?
If Nigerians truly want a turn around they will do it themselves, not God.

How is this one different from a babalawo waking up 2:am to perform rituals for some set of juju followers who wake up at night in search for miracle money?

I see no difference.

Yoruba people are very wonderful, they have turn Christianity to night rituals

A faulty society like the African society never groomed our children to grow and appreciate commitment to unmarried relationship and simple promise of love. They give people the mindset that one should be committed to a relationship only when it is marriage, that is very wrong.
That is what is causing the insecurity a woman feels when she is having sex with a man who loves her and they are not yet married.

In an ideal society a man should be committed and steak to the woman he loves, marriage or no marriage, sex or no sex.
The woman should also do the same to the man.

solite3:
not only to keep them in business but there are certain things that are for the father only to decide and reveal.

whenever someone dies that is the return of Christ at his last moment or last day, that means his trumpet has sounded.

It is appointed ones for men to die, after that judgement.

Asking why did Jesus not know when he will return is like asking why did Jesus not know when someone will die.

People die everyday. That means Jesus return everyday to judge the dead.

People's death(Jesus coming) are never predetermined infact he is not interested to know the time of his coming, it happens by chance and Jesus isn't God to predetermine, he gives everyone equal play ground, equal chance to face karma