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Ndukings92:
No but have u heard it before or not?

it is commonly used during people's funeral. Perhaps, it means dead people are resting in peace from the stress of this life

There is nothing like a dead soul not being resting in peace until something else is achieved like avenging his death.

Once a person dies that's the end.
He feels nothing, He knows nothing anymore about who killed him or not

Ndukings92:
Often I have hear that May he or Her gentle soul Rest In Peace,its a norm once an individual died and is buried these words will be uttered. even if the person is of good or bad behavior and character,I believe that in youth we learn and in age we understand so for me when the word RIP is mentioned I see it as a wish for the departed to rest in peace until the day of judgment which will determine if the departed will make heaven or hell.
I want us to discuss a situation whereby an individual died and some people will say that because of one reason or d other he or she is not resting in peace,I have seen cases where someone died prematurely maybe because he or she was poisoned or was involved a road accident or was brutally killed and the family will decide to do some ritual before laying the dead to rest claiming that the dead will only rest if his or her death is avenged. some will even go extra mile to add a matches and broom to the coffin before burying the dead asking him or her to avenge its death. I want to understand more about this RIP stuff because I have been in thoughts of late and I need to know,matured and learned minds pls help and educate me more

is there anything like "may your soul rest in peace in the bible?

denisbid:
could that be the reason why Jesus Christ was not recognized when he resurrected, that his body was changed?

Exactly!

The bible recorded that it took a miracle or intervention of the spirit before the disciples were able to recognize that the person talking to them was the resurrected Jesus.

Yes

7victor:
Is it possible that after someone has died,he or she may come back again to this world ,be born and start life all over again?

resurrection with Christ according to scriptures, is reincarnation back to this earth as God's kingdom is on this earth a lot of Christians don't know.

Like someone dies today and is being buried.


After some days/months/years,the person comes back into the womb and is born as a baby.

scriptures have it that this happens in a moment within the twinkling of eye rather, and not days or months.

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump(that is, at the last moment of our death) for the trumpet shall sound(For we shall surely die one day), and the dead shall be raised incorruptible(resurrection), and we shall be changed.(when we reincarnate we will be given a new body)

This is the resurrection Christ was talking about, it is nothing but reincarnation in the real sense.

1 Corinthians15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1 Corinthians15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

The person then grows up but is oblivious of his former life/lives on earth.

this is because our body will be changed when we resurrect or reincarnate.
If you read up in that same 1Corinthians 15

1 Corinthians 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised(resurrected) a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

The natural body is the one that was dead, the spiritual body is the reincarnated one which no one will be able to recognize after resurrection or reincarnation because it has been changed.
That is why the person will be oblivious of himself.

1 Corinthians 15:38[But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

1 Corinthians15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption(dead body); it is raised in incorruptionresurrected or reincarnated body)

Now, everything happens here on this earth,
This is what is referred to as "Reincarnation"

It happens when a saved woman in Christ gives birth to a new born child. 1 Timothy 2: 15

This simply means child bearing among Christians is reincarnation of the child in reality.

twhy111:
Just like waec and jamb questions used to get leaked bfr the proper exam, maybe the tribunal result have been leaked too you never can tell

it is not may be.

The governor just leaked the tribunal verdict which they have already prepared.

makizee:
Mary Slessor came to enlighten the folks in calabar and not Africans, the yoru as for example have always elevated and celebrated twins

I know!
I was only generalizing seeing that calabar is also in Africa which is know for similar beliefs: Example, the belief of the existence of witchcraft which any of such thing is not in reality.

PrecisionFx:
Lewis Vernon Harcourt was a top notch notorious rapist, But the capital of rivers state was named after him. He later committed suicide.

Google it and read Wikipedia, it was named after him at the permission of lord luggard, not that the people of Rivers honoured him.
Infact, there are no any monument erected in honour of Lewis Vernon anywhere in rivers state like Mary sessor was honoured in calabar.

Mary Slessor met with pregnant women and midwives on the calabar axis and if any of them give birth to twins, she will secretly rescue one of the twins and take the child away to Europe in pretense that she's saving dem and then sell the child thru her slavery contacts/routes.

fake story!
On the contrary, she tool only one child she named Janie to Scotland because she was her favourite adopted. Read the area marked green below from Wikipedia.

I don't expect u to believe it, U have been brainwashed from childhood.

no sensible human will believe you especially when you did not upload any reference of your false claims

obentenyson:
you just don't want to admit the truth even when its starring right in front of you... witchcraft is an act of sorcery.. magicians the stage ones are known as illusionists or tricksters, That is different from witchcraft itself...still there are some stage magicians who do dabble into dark art (sorcery).. I have given u biblical proofs but yet you have refused to accept the truth in them that witchcraft/sorcery do exist... you are just scared that the truth will change your current perception of reality, your false reality of science which claims you evolved from apes... That is the kind of reality that makes sense to you... how interesting....

ok, what's your concept of witchcraft?
How is it different from illusion, tricks, soccery or voodoo?

alexola20:
You equal can be an blind ignorant you know.
I believe my wife is more educated than you and you will ever be pls no insult.
In fact she attended one of the best Uni around here.
So pls keep urs to yourself and don't quote me again.
Bye.

your wife is educated yet she fail to understand the definition of witchcraft that they are all tricks, what kinda education is that?

and you allow yourself to believe her tricky stories too

Take a look at that definition and go think about it.
Bye

obentenyson:
there biblical proof of existence of witches and witch Craft Bro... 1 Sam 15: 23 23 For rebellion is like the sin of divination, and arrogance like the evil of idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the LORD, he has rejected you as
king.”

2 chronicles 33:6 6 He sacrificed his children in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced divination and witchcraft,
sought omens, and consulted mediums and spiritists.
He did much evil in the eyes of the LORD, arousing
his anger.
Leviticus 19:31 31 “ ‘Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your
God.
Leviticus 20:6 6 “ ‘I will set my face against anyone who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute themselves by
following them, and I will cut them off from their
people.
Leviticus 20:27 27 “ ‘A man or woman who is a medium or
spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to
stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.’ ”
Galatians 5:19-20 19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry
and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage,
selfish ambition, dissensions, factions..21 and
envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you,
as I did before, that those who live like this will not
inherit the kingdom of God.

Acts 19:17-20 17 When this became known to the Jews and
Greeks living in Ephesus, they were all seized with
fear, and the name of the Lord Jesus was held in
high honor. 18 Many of those who believed now
came and openly confessed what they had done.
19 A number who had practiced sorcery brought
their scrolls together and burned them publicly. When
they calculated the value of the scrolls, the total
came to fifty thousand drachmas. 20 In this way
the word of the Lord spread widely and grew in
power.
I can go on n on. science deals with empirical not metaphysical. science is not the same with philosophy.. science is flawed concerning issues like this.

first of all, you must understand the definition of witchcraft that it is simply trick or magic.
I remember when we were little we used play those kind of tricks. Someone will place an object in his right palm and cover it with his fingers and be making incantations like abrakabraka! at the same time twist the object to his left palm without us knowing, because we were little and easily deceived.
So when we see the object at his other palm we will start clapping, that this person has performed magic

All what was recorded in the bible that you just pointed out in this scriptures were not different from that and you know why?
Because people in those ancient times of the bible were primitive people and can easily be deceived.
The practice is called Vodoo or hoodoo or wizardry, there is nothing special about or some kind of supernaturals attached to it, they are all physical tricks.

Come try all that rubbish this modern day where there is enlightenment and see whether people will answer you
People will just simply ignore you and go away.

In summary, Africans say witches or wizards have supernatural power they can hurt people or manipulate people's destiny right?
I'm telling you that, that thing is deception!
Nobody on this earth have any supernatural power except God

PrecisionFx:
She is a slave trader, Just like the other British people.

No need to show u proof, Cuz u can't show me any proof on how Mary Slessor stopped killing of twins in the whole of Africa

did i didn't say the whole Africa?
Who doesn't know where in Africa she was popular for stoping the killing of twins.

For your info, if you go to that region, a whole avenue is dedicated to her name for her good work till today.
Infact, her statue is a national monument.

Someone known to be a notorious slave trader can never be remembered and honoured in such a manner, not all Europeans who came to Africa for missionary work were notorious slave traders.
Infact, history in our schools back then recorded that a quite number of them kicked against the injustice of slave trade perpertrated by the then colonial masters.

shamecurls:
I pity you!


Pray to step on toes that will make you believe.

Believe wetin?
Mumu African beliefs?

By the way, who says you should step on people's toes?

obentenyson:
lol... Your use of English doesn't mean you are woke or enlightened.. school was suppose to be a place of enlightenment but in truth it is a place of indoctrination.. Real education is self education not going to school.. school has its advantages but school is not a place to be considered the place of knowledge... knowledge is not taught in class room. you will have to teach your self that... we have seen uneducated graduates..

anyway!
You are right to some extent saying you teach yourself knowledge in school not allowing yourself to be influenced by some indoctrinating curriculum but the good thing about school is, it broadened your mind to think beyond the normal stethoscope and take issues objectively the way they are.
Every lecturers have their own personal opinion which may be right or wrong, but if one pick the curriculum and apply them truthfully he may end up getting better fact away from what the lecturer thinks and be better of.

That not withstanding, there are no fact that witches exist.
No scientific methodology has proven that.
The bible did not prove that.
The belief of it existence is the product of the minds of myths either from African origin or from ancient European empires who never saw the light of true education.

PrecisionFx:
I get ur point in witchcraft..



Read my post again about Mary slessor

we know her as a Christian missionary and not a slave trader, where is your fact?

obentenyson:
School were you will be indoctrinated with foolish ideas that the earth is round n that bigbang was the creation of everything n that you evolve from a monkey because God doesn't exist... is that what u use as a criteria for knowledge.. as far as am concern, when y graduate , that's when you will know that everything you've being taught or at least almost everything is b.s... real education is independent research.. do your own research n don't let one ignorant professor brainwash you.. school is not a yardstick for knowledge.. school doesn't teach u how to think. school only teaches u how to regurgitate what you've being taught.

wait o!
You use the word REGURGITATE!

interesting

Where you learn from?
From witchcraft?

obentenyson:
jokes apart even u your self know this things exist and its not limited to Africans... Halloween na witches or occult holiday/celebration abroad... Anton LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan, said: “I am glad that Christian parents let their
children worship the devil at least one night out
of the year. Welcome to Halloween.”... he said so because Christian abroad n all over the world ignorantly take part in this occult activity called Halloween. witchcraft abroad as taken many forms n names.. its just that in Africa here we still see it for what it really is. Evil.. oyinbo don give am many names... many secret societies abroad practice witchcraft but they won't say its witchcraft. they will simply call it rituals.. research Bohemian groove rituals... politician abroad take part in this satanic rituals were they sacrifice children to I gigantic wooden owl some were in Bohemian...

to oyibo people witches are imaginations of the mind i have been there before, the educated ones among them currently are more than 75% of their population unlike Africans.
The way they reason,
The things they teach their children to believe that it is possible, Africans cannot image.
My God, they are so different. The awareness gap is so huge sometimes i begin to wonder, these people they are next to God.

Witchcraft only exist in their movies like Harry potter that's all.
It is imagination of the mind.

There is nothing like one mama in the village is using Bluetooth to trouble your destiny, then go to church to pray till you almost die

ochibuogwu5:
Your write-up conveyed the wrong *thought*
You should have stayed that one of the easiest way of being a Christian is *if you were born into Christian home*

my emphasis is on the fact that one is saved by mere being a Christian whether he or she is a Christian by birth or he or she was once in other religions and is convinced to believe in Christ.

My write up is remind Christians who were made to believe in Christ by birth that their salvation started at birth therefore they do not need any further commitment to any other course before they know that they are saved

However it is wrong for you to assume I was not *formerly born in another religion* but now a Christian.

OK, now i know.
I was only assuming.

It is wrong also to assume that all those born into Christian homes are still Christians even as they grew up.

I never assumed that!

Ofcourse, I know that at some point, a child have the right to decide whether or not to continue with the religion of his or her birth. That is the personal decision that makes Christianity a personal thing.
Christianity being a personal thing is not the personal decision to repent from sin or stop doing wrong.

It is not our work as Christians to convert anybody into Christianity rather allow the LIFE OF JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED dwelling inside us to live out his lifestyle through our mortal-bodies then other human being who are attracted to collaborate with the grace of salvation will come to us to accept the gospel.

you are very right here.
This is the point, we can only try to live according to Christ that may attract people to believe, but we are not doing it because we want to be saved, we were already saved.

My dear people from born into Islam/other religions are joining Christianity every second and those who were born into Christianity are also joining other religions of their choice.

that's true

BlueAir:
u definitely are an educated monkey .with seasoning of punkk

ok, e pain o now you won insult?

That's what loosers does when they don't have facts.
Insulting!

Idiot! Mumu!
Pig!!

You lark home training, baboon

enemyofprogress:
bros oyinbo get witch and their witches and wizards na confirmed ones in every levels of life. You go back to Google and make your research

what did you see when you googled it.
Screenshot it and post it here let's see

Chosen1984:
My Brother you just picked a Verse from the Chapter.

Read the Next verse or you read the whole chapter.
The scripture you brought out speaks Loudly about what I said.. 1John 1:5-9 is the full package of A Christian is Not a Sinner and a Sinner is Not a Christian..

no, I did not dispute when you said a Christian is not a sinner, you were very right saying that. (Only that you understand what that means)
But i wanted to find out to what extent do you understand that truth only for me to see you contradicting yourself saying a Christian is the person that live the lifestyle of Christ.
Unknown to you, you were equally saying someone who does not live the lifestyle of Christ is a sinner.

because scriptures made us to understand that if you break one rule of the law you have break it all.
And Christ did not break one rule of the law.

JESUS CHRIST did not create Religion.
Religion is created by Man.

It seems you do not understand the meaning of religion, many Christians ignore that especially in Africa.
Now Google the meaning of the word religion or use a dictionary.

And look at this also :

John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

The very day the son of man was lifted on the cross was the very day Christianity as a religion was established, that was the day of salvation.

1 Corinthians 15:14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your FAITH.

mark the word FAITH. the original use of the word faith is religion(the is no word as religion as at the time the English bible was first documented, rather FAITH was used.
In otherword, if people were asked what is your faith? Their response will be, I'm a Christian or i practice Judaism or I'm an idol worshipper.

[quote]JESUS CHRIST paid the price for the Whole Earth. All you need is to Believe, Accept HIM and live the life of JESUS CHRIST.

Remember when Moses lifted the serpe in the wilderness, as many Jews who lifted up their eyes to the serpent were saved from death.
The same thing, as many that has received Christ today(becoming Christian and not any other religion) are saved from death.

Salvation has been for a group of people and not a personal thing as you people put.
It is only personal when the person decide to believe, after that, it is a group.

BlueAir:
so naive .all the best

if na so Africans wise where Una dey today economically compared to the rest of the world?

All the best.

enemyofprogress:
and you think there are no witches and wizards in other parts of the world especially in America and Europe?

Google it now, and see it for yourself.
You have the phone with you

Hausaman:
The Europeans had issues with witches and many where killed. Mary Slessor only saved twins of a particular tribe, not the whole of Africa.

Europeans were ignorant those times, today generation of Europeans know better.

Have you ever asked yourself why these witchcraft believes still lingering in Africa today?
It's because there are no quality schools in Africa just like what is obtainable in Europe today.
Simple

BlueAir:
u don pass that level eh? So u know the level exist

I know it exist in your minds and it doesn't exist in reality.

What you don't know you don't know, it's simple.

Even, your believe in God exist in your mind and not in reality or have you ever seen God in reality before?

If God truly exist in reality atheists will never doubt his existence.
But because he exist in your mind and he lives in you so they can never see him.

The same thing applies, witches only exist in the minds of those who believe in their existence and nothing more

ochibuogwu5:
Verse-13 confirms that your biological-birth does not bring about the *spiritual-birth* in the *kingdom of God (Jesus Christ)*

no, it does not confirm it.
Verse 13 mentioning which were born not of blood nor the will of the flesh has nothing to do with biological birth but to be born of the spirit, meaning to be saved.

But what i posted is different thing entirely.
It emphasis that for you to be born of the spirit or being saved, it also require that you are from a Christian home or parent, a condition that qualifies you to be a Christian, just like a Muslim is a Muslim be cause he was burn from an Islamic home or a Muslim parent.

The truth is, you are Christian today because you were born a Christian. If your parents were Muslim, i don't think by now you you will be looking at the bible talkless of salvation.

Jesus Christ confirms it in John 3:6 thus "what is born of the Spirit is Spirit, what is born of the *flesh is flesh*"
Great Grace!!!

to be born of the spirit simply put it, is to believe in Christ.
And there is no way one will believe in Christ except he or she was born into a Christian home or he or she was convinced at a time to join Christianity.

Have you ever try to convince a Muslim or atheist to join Christianity before?
Or look at it this way, have you ever been convinced to abandon Christianity to join other religion?
Will you agree?

That is how other people from other religious background will not want to join Christianity too.

So, you see! The major way to be saved today is though childbearing and grooming children to be Christians by Christian parents.

1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

midolian:
Deceiving yourself must be your hobby ...

Continue to sin without looking Back, you hear? Na contribution wey you go pack one day

my guy enter back your cage of ignorance and stop talking.
Who need your opinion?

PrecisionFx:
Killing of twins wasn't practised in the whole of Africa, only a minute part of nigeria practised it.

Mary Slessor was a slave trader who deals specifically in buying and selling of children.

you know why Mary slessor succeed over killing of twins?
Because twins were humans and physical to see, so Africans were able to see and understand and emancipate themselves from the evil belief.
But in this case of witchcraft no one can see spirits whether witches truly exist or not. That alone is big problem to Africans, understanding what they cannot see.
Na only education go if emancipate Africans for this witchcraft matter

FroshJaynex:
U think going to school measures the level of ur understanding? Make research and stop being ignorant, not everything is taught in school, Grow up poke!

OK, somethings are thought in babalawo shrine and mumu African traditions?

You better wake up o

Iziquiel:
Even the so called "Developed Europe" believed and still believes in the existence of witchcraft.

my friend Google it and find the truth for yourself

evanstical:
So you never knew there was a time the Whites believed in witches? Type witch-hunt in Wikipedia and be educated . thats where the word witch hunt emanated .you just take this Whiteman as God or what.so you never believed there was a time a time they were naive ?

that was then, not now that there is so much education in England and people now know the truth.

felaismyhero:
you are right that talking about witches should be a thing of the past.but killing of witches happened in europe too; in the dark days of the inquisition led by the catholic church; lots of women were immolated after they were found to be witches in sham trials.fortunately for europe,those times are long gone!

this is very true