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Apination:
What version of the bible did you find that word fornication? It's not in King James or any generally accepted version of the Bible

ahh! Pastor

fykes:
Ur understanding of that passage is really confounding.
Are u for real or u just making mischief of a simple illustration?
Paul wrote to the church in Corinth that there's fornication amongst them and that they are even reported to be committing incest an act which he opined that even unbelievers don't commit.

ok,
what you are saying is that Paul mentioned fornication at the same time he mentioned incest all in the same one verse of that scripture?

You know what?
I will advice you to go back to school and learn summary

bobolistica:
My brother... Don't misquote the Bible to suit ur sinful life ...

I have no sinful life. On the contrary, anyone trying to create laws to prevent people from being known as married people simply because they have not wedded are the ones living sinfully, because in bible days we have understood that Adam and Eve never wedded, yet they were recognized as husband and wife
Abraham and Sarah never wedded, yet they were husband and wife.
David and Abigail never wedded, infact Abigail left her first husband and submitted herself to David, nobody said they committed fornication.
Mary was engaged to Joseph as at the time she was pregnant for Jesus Christ, no marriage.
I can list so many cases like that in the bible.

Now read this GoodNews translation of the verse you quoted:

Now, it is actually being said that there is sexual immorality among you so terrible that not even the heathen would be guilty of it. I am told that a man is sleeping with his stepmother! 1Corinthians 5v1

the goodnews translation is still saying the same thing with king James now.
A man sleeping with his step mother, that is what was known as fornication in bible days, not a man who is not married sleeping with a girl who is not married as we presume fornication to mean today.

Mariangeles:

the truth is bitter abi?

kingmurainah:
What is this one saying, its better u keep mute

keep mute for saying the truth?

[quote author=chiefolododo post=82672220][/quote]short of words abi

2nattie:

. Fornication is sex between unmarried people. You just described incest

incest is recent word for fornication used in bible days.
That is what 1 Corinthians 5:1 is pointing out.

ZiriMane:
Christians are not meant to have any form of sexual relationship outside or before marriage anything contrary is sin.

show me scripture to support this falsehood.
You people will just believe anything simply because pastor say so in church abi?

ZiriMane:
please take no offence, but taking the bible out of context portrays ur lack of intelligible reasoning.
sexual relationship outside marriage by an unmarried person or persons is called fornication. When it is perpetrated by a married person outside marriage it is called Adultery

where are your scripture to support this falsehood?

All I'm letting you is, it is possible to be faithful to a bf and gf relationship just like marriage

WinningEleven:
You make it sound as if the bf and gf weren't fornicating in the first place

it isn't fornication when both of them involved are faithful to each other. Infact, at that point they are better than married people who are cheating on one another.

Now, contrary to what we think fornication is, that it means sex involving unmarried people. Here is the Bible's view of what fornication means.

1 Corinthians 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

So, fornication means a young man having sex with his father's wife or a young woman having sex with her mother's husband.

In general, it means sex with a close relation.

No,
Being spiritual means a country having a number of religions practiced in the country and their adherents living together with one another tolerating each other in love irrespective of their religious differences.

ichuka:
There's a difference between a student in the university and someone that just wrote jamb.
The latter is trying to be admitted into a school,while the first already carries the school name.

you don't expect the bible to indicate everything do you?
The bible did not indicate God saying I'm the God of Adam just like it did when God said I'm the God Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but certainly he was the God of Adam and the scriptures does not need to indicate that.
Why?
Because he created Adam.

what does it mean to speak in tongues?
Is it to speak other languages you cannot speak or to make some kind of incantations like rekololodobrekalolosh!! ?

Stupid thread!!

You see why Africa will never prosper?
These are the kind of things mumu Africans are interested of.
Very stupid mindset.

In this modern day your analogy should be between science and technology,
between education and medicine,
between government and justice
between the church and illiterate church members and how to bridge the gap.

You wake up one morning only to start drawing analogy between abstract things that do not exist like witches all in a bid to make superiority or interiority among tribes and cultures in your beloved country Nigeria?

You are mentally...
Let me not complete it

Who says God did not declare that he was God of Adam?
by giving Adam instruction on what to do and Adam obeyed, what do you call that, man to man relationship?

What is the meaning of all these spiritual father thing?
Do a pastor or a Christian really need it?
Is it political godfatherism we are practicing in Christianity?
what is that, i don't get it?

wasted years for Nigerian youths who want to aspire beyond their present level to the next level

Yul Edochie who contested for the last elections has reacted to the Presidential Election Petition Tribunal verdict which struck out Atiku Abubakar and People’s Democractic Party’s petition of President Muhammadu Buhari not being qualified to contest in the 2019 Presidential election over his educational qualification.
The tribunal yesterday in its ruling said that Mr Buhari’s certificate from the Nigerian military is higher than the Secondary School certificate which is the minimum academic requirement for the election in the constitution and he is qualified to be the president.

“Mr Buhari is not only qualified but is eminently qualified” for the election, chairman of the Court of Appeal panel said.
The Nollywood actor, Yul Edochie recalled how he had to attach all his certificates up to his university degree to his form when he contested in the 2017 Anambra Governorship election.
He asked the Nigerian judiciary on the verdict which meant he doesn’t need those certificates to become the President, which is the highest political office in the country.

When I ran for Governor I had to gather all my certificates up to my University degree and attach them to my form. Now you people are telling me I don’t even need those certificates to be President The highest office in the country? Chai! Nigerian judiciary diaris God oo!
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Very true

4 years are already wasted. Another wasted 5 months has gone and foolish people are still enduring.

minimum wage will continue to remain 18k till 2023, why?
Because 4+4 lark ideas

will it be the first time for aso rock to see rain assuming it will truly fall?
After the rain what next?

OlawaleBammie:
Ah, oga paxonel tank u, i say a no dey document, i dont need it na, all i need is how to better my life and God wil help me.

Am nt bent on u blivin me actually cus as i said earlier AM A FREE THINKER, either one bliv me or nt doesnt put food on my table and doesn't ensures my growth jare.
Besides, how do u convince monkey dat honey is sweeter dan banana.? not posible until u force it and it wont allow u to catch itself, soo its relatively impossible.

which mean i may not b able to convince u due to ur upbringing and the area u grew up, u only see this tins in nollywood and its imperative for u to bliv lts mere fiction. soo how do u get convinced?? not until u encounter it urself.

I did not grow up in Lagos!
Infact, I lived part of my life in a village where rumours of witchcraft was the talk of almost everyday, where young people like me keep accusing old people of maniputing their destiny and they claim to see all sort of mysterious things like the ones you narrated above. But through out my stay in that village I never saw anything.
Why?
Because, there was no such things like witchcraft manipulation, they were all imaginations and thinking of ignorant people in the village

i saw q lady wen i first came to Lagos dat was telling me dat garri is harvested from the top if a particular tree, funily enof she didn't want to bliv me at first wen i told her the rigorous process it pass tru bfor it came out dry it was d intervention of some mamas dem dat convinced her, i just look at her and i was like "no b ur fault" shebi all tru ur life u hav bn in lagos, how wil u knw how garri is made compared to me dat all tru my life its bn home home and home?

garri growing on trees.

I love your sense of fiction.
Infact, it should be money growing on trees

OlawaleBammie:
A dey craze?? how a no go bliv say God dey?? wen dem no carry my pregnancy cross fence.

See, am a free thinker, i dont usually bend under pressure from d religious fanatics, even the way i tink is somehow jaw-dropping cus i bliv in less prayer, more of destiny.

BUT IN ALL, I BLIV IN JESUS AS MY SAVIOUR AND I BLIV IN GOD ALMIGHTY.

why did u ask sir

and you know that everything that happened in bible were documented that's how we end up believing today that there is God?
If that is the case, what makes you think that you can mere narrate a phenomenon pointing out that a woman who is a witch transformed to a bird without you having a factual documentation to show for it, and you expect someone to believe your narration this modern day that there is wisdom and understanding?

Have you heard of the Greek mythology?
why are the stories labelled myth inspite the fact that they came with a well documentation to show for it.

Well, you can keep saying that witches are wicked, they will kill you if you attempt documenting their activities. But I will tell you, that fear is a big defect to this modern world.
The fear is the reason why Africa is lagging behind today in everything.

OlawaleBammie:
Lol, na u wan document am?? go document am na, if dem born u well go document u go hear weehn. see my brother diabolical power dey wer hin dey oo, no follow dem talk say power no dey oo. i pray u dont ever experience the menace from dem.


btw, if u need more first hand story for more convincing dem lemme knw, i wil supply u more

you funny o
Let ask you another question.
Do you believe that God exist?

OlawaleBammie:
Tank u brother, i kuku did nt pick it up from anywhere, dis hapened right under my nose in my town, i knew d culprit likewise d victim i did know. The daughter of d victim was my classmate dat reported me to our introtech teacher in jss1(2002) dat i was cheating just bcus i did nt give her the little material to copy from in tym.

i knew u would say d story is crap dat is why i didn't complete it initially.

The man died and no drop of blood was found in his body. Two years after his demise, d woman(landlady) rant and she was giving d account of dos she has killed, dat was wen she mentioned this man name amidst, lol, everyone was chocked to knw she's behind it. And wat was her claim??

She said d victim saw her landing and turning to her full human nature in front of him, to cover herself from bn d talk of d town, she had to do wat she did. She said dis LIVE AND DIRECT TO OUR HEARINGS before she died like some days later

if u need more first hand experience just lemme tell u another one, haba, u go taya with story.

but the question I'm asking is, if all these kind of things are happening in real life why are there no records to document them atleast to teach children in schools that there are actually black powers or witchcraft?
We have several stories like these a lot of people saying their experiences but no single document to show that they actually happen.

How will someone begin to explain in a written document for record purpose that a full grown woman turn to a bird and fly?
If that is the case, certainly there will be no need for her to use public transport now.
If there was any evidence that she actually used public transport in her life time then what is the need for her possessing such power?

johnwell:
YES
ignorance is the greatest destroyer of mankind.

but it isn't possible to know everything.
Not knowing everything does not mean one is ignorant.
From the little you know, you can predict or tell the outcome of a situation. For instance, i know that Christ has authority over witches. He gave me the same authority and the outcome of it is that, whether witches exist or not they do not have any effect, they are meaningless to me.
Therefore, i will belittle myself to start finding out in order to know whether they do exist when i already know that Christ has defeated them.

That's why i don't need to know everything.
There are certain things that are not worth knowing.

OlawaleBammie:
Ok, i agreed.



but check dis out sir.


There was dis well known man, a delta by nativity in my town back in d days, i wil cover him by name, also der is dis woman, elder woman like dat, she was even a chief in d palace, i wil cover her as well.

This delta man was a tenant in d woman's house, on dis faithful day at about 3/4am, d man went outside to urinate only for him to sight dis bird on it way to landing, as d bird landed it transfigured to be d woman(d landlady) the man was shocked.

couples of days later d man went to farm to harvest palm kernel on top of a palm tree, d man fell from d tree top and landed on an undulated ground and was scattered, d fearful tin is dat opon all d wound no single drop of blood was found.

say sometin to dis den i wil complete my story.

where did you get this story from, did it happen to someone close to you or you saw it happening?
It sounds like some of those African magic movies we used to watch

Anyway, this is just a typical imaginations and myths of the average Nigerian person.
Even if the story is not true i can pick it, make a movie out of it and it will sell only in Africa.
Why?
Because this is the kind of stories the people want to hear about and be marvelled 'E he!! wonders shall never end "

If I pick this story and take it to church and share it as a testimony, the following Sunday come and see the crowd of people that will come to church. That is, i have won souls to the kingdom of God.
People want to see that kind of miracle,
People want to see that kind of power,
They want to hear that there was one witch then the power of God came mightily like a flood and swept it away.
They don't want to hear about love in Sunday messages.
They don't want to hear about justice and equality and being human living their normal lives the way they are.

Nigerians are truly fake people,
Very fake

Daguccizgreat:
How many ppl have you met in life ? I'm not glorifying them or anything but they do exist bc I have had so much battles with them in life. Like I said before as time goes on life you will get to know all I have been saying. Beg God for wisdom to understand many things unknown to you

do we need to know everything?

Daguccizgreat:
Biblically we learnt that God hardened the heart of pharoah to torment the Israelite in Egypt but same pharoah was later destroyed by God. Judas betrayed Jesus and subsequently killed himself out of guilt. God had orchestrated the coming and death of Jesus hope you know that but Judas happened to be the scapegoat after being used by the devil to sell Jesus out. I don't want to share my personal experiences here but know it today that this life is so deep and beyond what you can understand. As times goes on you will experiences things that will widen your knowledge about life

you have said the truth sir!
I have so much to know about this life, but certainly not the existence of witchcraft because they do not really exist this life.

I have heard a lot of people(especially African Christians) testifying that they finally had financial breakthrough because they were delivered by the attack of witchcraft or demons but when i eventually questioned them one on one, they ended up agreeing that they encountered those failures in their lives initially not because of any witchcraft, but because there were certain aspects of their carrier which they didn't know about, until the moment they began to see the breakthrough.

Infact, one of them specifically said he attended a professional course and aquire a new skill, that was when he began to see the breakthrough.
Meanwhile, he has made everyone in church erroneously believe that he had the breakthrough because he attended deliverance in church.

OlawaleBammie:
And who do bible says we wage war against, according to d books of Ephesians, Philippians, et al??

we Africans today were deceived by our stereotypic beliefs that those scriptures were referring witchcraft, demons or some enemies.

Now, look at it this way.
You remember what Jesus told Peter when he struck off the ear of a centurion who wanted to arrest Jesus? (wrestling with principality).
principalities were mere humans.
The centurion had wanted to arrest Jesus because he was never a believer or disciple of Jesus.
He was ready to persecute belivers having the POWER and AUTHORITY given to him by the Roman empire of that time, therefore he was a PRINCIPALITY, anti -Jesus Christ (against the believe that jesus was to the Christ).
Or simply put it, he was an Antichrist.

this is how it applies when Paul mentioned principalities and powers in Ephesians 6:12.
He was referring to people who persecute Christians at that time. They were always empowered by the government(high place) of that time or empowered by the greatest religion of that time(Judaism) to persecute and kill Christians which was referred to as spiritual wickedness.
Even Paul before he was converted obtained power and authority from the government(rulers of darkness of that world of those times because they kill innocent Christians) to persecute and kill Christians at Damascus therefore he was a principality.
That was what Christians in those days contended or fought with in those days.
Not any witches and wizards.

Go and read those scriptures again in the light of what i just explained to you, you will see the correlation.

Yes

OlawaleBammie:
Oga omode nse e.

lemme ask dis, are u a xtian or Muslim??

I'm a Christian