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Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Day Of The Lord? by paxonel(op): 4:04pm On May 02, 2021
Lighthouse50:
didnt you read revelation 1vs 10 when John said He was in spirit on the Lord's day
OK grin
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Day Of The Lord? by paxonel(op): 4:03pm On May 02, 2021
truespeak:
Sorry, but Revelation 21:1 says you are wrong!

This earth shall pass away and a new one created!

"I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea."
if that is so look at this scripture.

Revelation 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

What are the King of the earth doing there if the earth were pass away?
Thought the earth would have passed away with his kings, what then are they doing there?

Think, it's figurative language man

I've already explained what figure of speeches are, they are like parables in the bible used to cover an intended meaning
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Day Of The Lord? by paxonel(op): 3:46pm On May 02, 2021
truespeak:
The day of the Lord is Clearly shown in Malachi 4:1 for while you quoted Malachi 4:5 and 6, you failed to take cognisance of Malachi 4:1 which precedes and leads up to 5 and 6!

Malachi 4:1 Clearly states "For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch."
I saw it!
You are right that verse 4 and 6 is a continuation of verse 1, but you have to understand that verse one was spoken figuratively that's the reason why even the people of the old testament did not understand what it was all about.
Look, so long that verse 4 is already there the way it was written that he was going to send Elijah before that great day and he shall turn the heart of son's against father's and father's against son's we saw later at the time of John the Baptist, John converted a lot of the isrealites to believe in Christ while some of them especially the Pharisees did not believe, that is what it meant.
Among the Pharisees there could be their son's who believed in Christ through the preaching John the Baptist, such son is said that his heart is turned against the religion of his father who was a Pharisees, and you know the implication of that, it's like saying a Muslim child have his heart turned against Islam to join Christianity, the father who is a Muslim may end up disowning that child.

Having said verse 1 was spoken figuratively, in the light of what i explained to you in verse 4, this is what verse one mean.

The day commeth that shall burn like oven does not necessarily mean fire burning the day, rather it meant the Jewish religion(Judaism) burning.
Actually it is not fire burning, it is ending the old covenant.Remember the Jewish religion is rooted on that old covenant God had with Abraham, that is what will burn off(ended).
What will end the old covenant?
The establishment of the new covenant through Christ, and we all know that John the Baptist started preaching Christ among the Jews, hence that's why that verse 4 was written mentioning Elijah will be sent.

Remember, Jesus Christ also said every tree that is not planted by his father shall be uprooted.
The trees there refers to religions.
Every religion including Judaism shall be rooted and burnt because Jesus is the only way.

Do you understand how it goes now?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Day Of The Lord? by paxonel(op): 10:45am On May 02, 2021
Yes
Christianity EtcRe: Difference Between Religion And Tradition. by paxonel(m): 9:19am On May 02, 2021
johncallidon:
Happy Sunday to everyone of us in this forum.

Pls. Nairalanders, there has been some thing troubling my spirit and has put me in a state of confusion.

firstly, I was made to understand that Christianity was brought to us from the #WHITES And I respect that.

Secondly, Some said that Our tradition is full of diabolic things i.e Idolatry BUT looking at the evil things found in the church and how some people commit so many unspeakable things all in the name of serving the Lord. it's giving me a second thought.

NOw, my question is WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RELIGION &TRADITION.

N.B: Abeg make una forgive my blunder, English no b my mother tongue.
people commit unspeakable things in the name of tradition too, not only in religion. Infact, it has been proven tradition in religion is what has made evil pronounced in religion.

For instance, the belief that one Jesus will come and rapture people someday was an European traditional fictious belief which was carried over into African religious beliefs and it is affecting Africans negatively today. Meanwhile the Europeans have overcomed such beliefs a long time ago and they are developed today.

And why is such beliefs affecting Africans today?
If you look at it, people are not interested in fighting of their rights and live a quality life here in Africa because they believe that everything is vanity, that it is useless living quality that will be destroyed someday by the coming of rapture, so they are so scared inherently
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Day Of The Lord? by paxonel(op): 9:02am On May 02, 2021
Lighthouse50:
Sabbath is simply the day of the Lord, you might be right to say when we die which is also called sabbath rest.
really? grin

Who is calling the day of the Lord Sabbath rest, Judaists or Buddhists
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Day Of The Lord? by paxonel(op): 8:32am On May 02, 2021
jom28gy:
No you got all wrong,any day, something happened is a day for that particular, event,in Christian beliefs, the day of the Lord, means, the day he will come, how however,he is already here
Do you have any scripture to support your claim?
We can read the whole chapter of that scripture to have proper understanding
Christianity EtcWhat Is The Day Of The Lord? by paxonel(op):
I know a lot of Christians till today, still think that the day of the Lord will be Apocalyptic events as portrayed by the pictures below.
But the Day of the Lord is far from that, i will explain in simple terms.

Remember, there is time for everything.
There was time for the old covenant and there is time for the new covenant where we are today.

During the old covenant era(the old testament) men used to believe that the day of Lord was going to be apocalyptic event as portrayed by the pictures below but that wasn't the case.
The day of Lord turn out to be the day Jesus was crucified and resurrected, that was for the people of the old covenant period.

Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Malachi 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

The Elijah he sent was John the Baptist, he sent John the Baptist before the the day of Christ crucifixion and resurrection, which was actually the great day of the Lord, that was for people of the old covenant.

But for us who are in the new covenant, who were bought to life after the resurrection of Christ, the day of the Lord is different thing entirely.

To us, the day of the Lord refers to the day we die.

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


1 Corinthians 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
1 Corinthians5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved IN THE DAY OF THE LORD JESUS.

Destruction of the flesh refers to death of the believer who must have died committing sin and he is destroyed by Satan. But after that, his spirit is saved.

The summary of all what I'm saying is:
The day of the Lord isn't any apocalyptic event like rapture or whatever, infact this earth will last forever, no end.
The day of the Lord is the we die.
The day you die that is the end of your world, after that life goes on forever on this earth, no end.

Christianity EtcRe: Premarital Cohabitation Is A Sin. Desist From It. by paxonel(m): 7:20pm On Apr 28, 2021
AsherAmari:
I don't argue the word of God. Period.
then don't quote people about the word of God again, period
Christianity EtcRe: Premarital Cohabitation Is A Sin. Desist From It. by paxonel(m): 3:35pm On Apr 28, 2021
AsherAmari:
Lies from the pit of hell. Even a pagan will not accept this your theory.

Go and study the word of God very well and stop saying what is not in the Bible.
i didn't know we have another female jw here grin

Well, you will have to constructively use scripture to debunk any of the 7 points i raised, or you are not near to proving me wrong
Christianity EtcRe: Premarital Cohabitation Is A Sin. Desist From It. by paxonel(m): 3:28pm On Apr 28, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Here's what is recorded in biblical scripture instead

1. Lust, that desire to possess that which is not married to you, is sin according to Jesus Christ. undecided
very true!
But how do you know that one is not married to a person, what is actually marriage?
The bible recorded in Genesis 24:67 that the moment Isaac brought Rebecca into his mothers tent, she became his wife.
No wedding
No bride price
No formal ceremony we usually do today.

Marriage does not begin at the point were people wed, celebrate and pay bride price, it begin at the point where the couples involved agree to live and stay together
2. When 2 unmarried individuals lust after each other, they sin. undecided
perhaps the very thing you call lust is when both of them do not love each other or have good intention towards the future of that union they have
According to God's law, in order to be considered married, the man shall leave his father and his mother and shall cleave to his woman,only then can they become one. Two people in a dating relationship who have yet to abandon parents( particularly the man) to become a unit of their own are not married according to God's law. undecided
you just said according to God's law the man shall leave his parents and cleave to his woman. He has left his parent what exactly does the parent want again, money?
5. God does not condone sex between "matured" individuals but instead sex between married individuals. undecided
And I'm saying that if the man is not ready to marry the girl, then he shouldn't think of having sex with her, otherwise it is sin
7. There are no stipulations given as to reason for sex. So long as a couple are married , they are free to engage for any reason they choose. undecided
you mean, couples are free to engage into sex even when they do not love each other?
Christianity EtcRe: Premarital Cohabitation Is A Sin. Desist From It. by paxonel(m):
What i will simply say is this :
1. What is sin is not when a boy and a girl (both 18 and above) are dating each other and having sex. What is sin is when they fail to continue the relationship and remain faithful to each other as they promise each other till they are formally married and continue till death do them apart
2. The factor that constitute sin in such relationship is when any one of them is hurt or pained as a result of the break up, or one of them gilting the other which is not different from what happens to formally married people
3. Any break up should be treated as a divorce and nothing more
4. Formally married people who break up or divorce feels the same hurt like people who date and break up, no difference.
5. Sex between matured people who are grown enough to take care of themselves amount to absolutely nothing to the person of God. Rather, if they are enjoying the act, good for them. If they are not enjoying it, good for them.
6. If there is any unwanted pregnancy or incidence of STD transmission as a result, then it is a sin.
7. Love should be the only reason one should engage in sex, otherwise it is a sin
Christianity EtcRe: Strange And Dangerous Substance Found In Pfizer Covid_19 Vaccines by paxonel(m): 7:20am On Apr 23, 2021
petra1:
Its a strong conspiracy What do you expect them to say. People who could unseat American president
people saying that Michael Yeodon is wrong,is that what you call conspiracy theory?
Oh, anyone saying his opinion and another person now say he is wrong is conspiracy theory to you? grin
Michael Yeodon that is already above 80 years old what do you expect from an old man, don't you know that when someone is becoming too old his sense of accuracy is becoming deteriorating that no one should blame him for that?

It seems you don't know the meaning of conspiracy theory let me explain

Bill gate with his money single handedly developed vaccines that help to eradicate wild polio in Africa no one called him Antichrist or mark 666 then, even pastor Christ Oyakhilome praised him for doing that.
Now the man, because he is still having his money is doing the same good work he did, he want to eradicate covid 19, so he sponsors development of vaccines, now people like oyakhilome now called him Antichrist, mark 666,devil. Is that not conspiracy theory?

Let me tell why it is conspiracy theory and is devilish what Chris oyakhilome and people like you are doing
You read in the bible there is going to be Antichrist and mark 666 at the end time, this is the end time that we are right?
Because you want to justify that we are living in the end time to you every unsual event is an opportunity to say the event are signs of the end time, corona virus is an unusual event right?
Meanwhile, there is another one called microchips that was said even before now, so when the corona vaccines are developed you people and oyakhilome want to say the vaccines have micro chips, a vaccine that one man spent his millions out of his goodwill, is that not conspiracy theory?
It is evil what you people are doing.

OK, no one is taking about micro chips again because over time the truth is reveal that there are no micro chips anywhere, that micro chips are science fictions of the mind

Now, look at this your thread now, STRANGE DANGEROUS SUBSTANCE(not even micro chips again grin), what is that?
another conspiracy theory.

What exactly is you people's problem, you were suppose to be Christians, the light of the world for God's sake
SportsRe: Nigerians Excited As Chelsea FC Use Yoruba Language In New Commercial by paxonel(m): 4:44pm On Apr 22, 2021
I be Pogba sister and i dey protest,

Why una nor use Manchester united for igbo commercial?

Christianity EtcRe: Strange And Dangerous Substance Found In Pfizer Covid_19 Vaccines by paxonel(m): 4:03pm On Apr 22, 2021
petra1:
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-vaccines-skeptic/
how about this, that the speculation of this article did not provide evidence, you didn't see that one?

How about the side that says these claims by Yeodon are false and irresponsible?

PoliticsRe: Minutes Of 2010 Meeting Chaired By Pantami To Fight Christianity by paxonel(m): 3:48pm On Apr 22, 2021
Ecash1:
[s]MINUTES OF A JOINT MEETING OF THE JNI OF FOUR STATES CONSISTING OF PLATEAU, BAUCHI, KADUNA AND NIGER STATE HELD IN BAUCHI CENTRAL MOSQUE ON THE 13TH JULY 2010 CHAIRED BY MALLAM ALI IBRAHIM PANTAMI

This meeting is born out the growing antagonism, hardship and how the Christians in Nigeria are attacking and despising the religion of Allah. The worrisome issue is that the south and the west of Nigeria is predominantly Christians whom Muslims are considered as animals. However, in the Northern part of Nigeria which is predominantly Muslims, the Christians want to still take over.

The main aim of this meeting is to:

a. Address the growth and the spread of Christianity in the North.

b. Receive reports of the treatment meted against the religion of Allah in some parts of the North especially Plateau State.

c. Re-strategize towards the full implementation of Jihad in Jos Plateau and as well as Kaduna state.

d. The liberation of Kaduna state.

As stated earlier, Christianity is fast growing in the Northern part of this country which is totally uncalled for. We are aware the Christianity has humiliated Islam in the south west thus Islam can no longer thrive there. We are treated with contempt and as non Nigerians in the part of the country.

Furthermore, the Christians brought out a scheme so as to get rooted and get liberated in the North they brought was they called middle belt. This Middle belt curve all the Christian’s dominated areas and is been championed by the Plateau big wigs.

The Christians have now extended not only in remote areas of the North but inside the cities as against the wishes of our Islamic leaders whom are no more. It should be noted that our leaders like the great Sardauna, Tafawa Balewa, Alahji Abubakar Gummi. Alahji Shehu Maigandu, Mallam Isaka Ramallan etc admonished Qur’an for a church standing close and in rivalry with a mosque. It is also their wish that part of the North be dominated and ruled by Muslims, it will afford the North the opportunity to practice shari’a law while other parts of the country use the common law.

To checkmate and caution the growing of Christianity in the Northern country, all Islamic clergies will pay a visit to all governors of the North and traditional rulers who are Muslims and presenting them the following demands.
i. They must device policies to see that all churches built in their respective states capitals are demolished to allow mosques in the city capital. Providing the Christians specific place to build their churches and be called Church Street .
ii. Christians preaching in the streets in the respective states through the media and other means be regulated.
iii. As it was the case in Katsina state during Governor Umaru Musa Yar’adua, a ban should be place in all the Northern states governed by a Muslim on teaching of Christian Religion in schools.
iv. Place a ban on Christians using the public address system during the services.
These demands must be adhered to and adopted by the Muslims governor for the interest of peace. They should note that we have more control of the masses and the youths. Any attempt by the Christians to disobey or revolt against the decision shall mean fighting against the religion of Allah which the followers of Allah shall not watch but we shall violently wipe away the Christians in these states.

REPORT FROM JNI PLATEAU
Sheik Sani Yahaya of JIBWIS on behalf of the JNI chairman presented the challenges and the maltreatment against the religion of Allah by the Governor of Plateau, his government, the Berom nation and as well as the entire Christians. He has also stated the efforts they have made and their stands.

He stated by saying that Muslims in Plateau state are in great danger Muslims in Plateau are dehumanized, humiliated, maltreated and scorned by the Christians according to him. The machinery of government is used by the Berom Christians.

Points to be noted include:

1. Over 7000 Muslims are massacre by the Christian in Plateau state since governor Jang assumed office.

2. Governor Jang came to destroy Islam in Plateau State and to drive away any non Berom Christian in Plateau state.

3. Un-estimated houses with Billions of Naira, were destroyed by the Berom Christians since Governor Jang assume office.

4. There is an existing plan and policy by Governor Jang and his government to wipe out any Muslim Jos through the Jos Master Plan; placing a ban on motorcycle operation, disallowing our traders to trade freely and unnecessary arrest of our youths.

5. No Muslim is given employment with the Plateau state government.

6. The government of Plateau state has ordered the Plateau State water Board to stop pumping water in places that are predominantly Muslims.

7. All the crises in Jos are taking place in Berom land.

8. Governor Jang admonish his Berom Christians to keep on killing the Muslims, that he has bribed all the Muslims traditional rulers with money and seats to hajj.

The Muslims Ummah in Jos has solemnly resolved to fight the governor, his government and the entire- Christians in any way possible. They shall never support this government and they will destroy any development that shall come to Plateau even the existing ones. Again, they are ready for Jihad in the state as we have presently secured the needed arms. Over 3000 foreign arms have now entered Jos and we will not vote during the governorship election. But we shall ensure that we have the position of the Federal House of Representative Jos North/Bassa chairman Jos North, Senator Representing Plateau North, Plateau State member Jos North-North. They shall shed the last drop of our blood to ensure that the Jos master plan and the ban on Okada is realized. The Ummah in Jos shall frustrate the peace and development of the entire state. All traders and Okada riders have been enjoined not to go out for their business without any preparation on a daily basis they are soliciting the support of the entire Muslim Ummah in Nigeria to support Islam in Plateau in cash and in kind as there is an endowment fund raising to procure more arms and especially explosives. They have also declared both open and silent killings in Muslims areas on any Christian and security (No go area).

We have pledge to deal with any Muslim especially those who are dining together with the governor for their selfish needs without diving a consideration to the Ummah. They shall kill them and their families and generations wipe away, we are watching.

RE-STRATEGIZE TOWARDS THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF JIHAD IN JOS PLATEAU STATE.

Haven’t seen the need for Islam to take its rightful position in Jos there is need for all Muslim in Nigeria to come to terms and re-strategize Muslims all over should bear in mind Jos is now labeled as a deadly zone to all non-Christians. There is need for all Muslims to extend their support to the Muslims in jos Plateau and ensure that Jos is capture and declared a Muslim territory.

With the way the governor and the government of Plateau is dehumanizing scorning the religion of Allah, the only solution for our liberation is Jihad The Muslim Ummah shall use Jihad and ensure that governor Jang did not return to office. Muslims in the state shall ensure that few months before the general elections jihad will be declare in the state which cannot be controlled even by the security agency with great slaughter and massacre which the Federal government will have no option than to declare a state of emergency in plateau. The shall also use some of his political rivals to fight him and ensure that he did no return to office by plight of Muslims will be reduced. While they guard their areas, they must go out and attack the Christian dominated area and also destroy any government property at their disposal in the state.

THE LIBERATION OF KADUNA STATE
Kaduna state is one of the historic and ancient cities in the history of Northern Nigeria . It is a state which has bred so many Islamic and National leaders, it is also a place where so many meetings and plans were carried out. Kaduna is the headquarters of Northern Nigeria . For a number of years Kaduna has witnessed its own share of religious crisis and for quit sometimes Christianity has been silenced thus the Muslims dominating every sector. It explains why the present Southern Kaduna is agitating for the creation of a new state to give them breathing space. The Muslim Ummah in the entire Northern Nigeria are greatly shocked, surprised and sad with the presently development given a Christian the opportunity to rule for the history of this country a non Muslim has never rule Kaduna state because of our numerical strength, political power and prowess and as its significance to Islam.

The present development given Patrick Yakowa to rule Kaduna state is totally uncalled for and a slap to Islam in Nigeria , it is considered as equal a Christian ruling in Mecca , Iran or Irag. No Muslim can be given the opportunity of such magnitude of evens a deputy governor in Plateau state. The most worrisome situation is where Governor Yakowa is making moves to contest for the seat of the governor in 2011 and hoping to use government machines at his disposal. He also backed the support of the president his fellow Christian. To face the challenge in Kaduna state all Muslims must rise to their responsibilities and resolve to fight for Allah. The Muslim Ummah shall ensure that Governor Patrick Yakowa or any Christian does not assume that seat forever. We must device all political and Jihadic means to ensure that we realize our plan.

1. 90 days from now, Muslims must ensure that peace has escaped Kaduna state.

2. Muslims must hunt all Christians especially those in the cities.

3. We must either use the security or other means to eliminate the governor, his family and all those they perceive are supporting him.

4. Must face and frustrate all Christians in Kaduna who are civil servants and traders.

5. Attacks must continue to be launched Christians predominated areas as signals before jihad.

6. Shall use our men who are in the military to help us bring arms and ammunitions into Kaduna .

7. Use all resources possible to have control of the security before and during these attacks.

This meeting is highly confidential but can be related all Muslims who wishes to support this movement.

UZTAZ SANUSI MOHAMMED

M. Lawal Ishaq Esq.

Source: http://www.nigerian elites forum.com/ng/e-dey-pain-me/3678-malicious-fabrications-to-further-divide-the-divided-nigeria-pls-ignore.html#post8617[/s]
stupid talk, try again

We're also Christians but we are not mumu like you.

How can you keep recycling documents that was post posted 2014 to fuel crisis without mentioning pantami, now you are saying saying pantami championed the same document in 2010 ?
Are you that mumu that people will not know your flaws?

I'm not in support that a repentant Islamic fundamentalist like Pantami is now in the corridor of power but if you want to nail him, do it constructively or you are foolish
PoliticsRe: Minutes Of 2010 Meeting Chaired By Pantami To Fight Christianity by paxonel(m): 3:01pm On Apr 22, 2021
AMINDA:
The contents of this thread is now been regurgitated and branded as some form of exclusive report and being used to stoke up ethnic and political tensions in 2021. These same materials that were fabricated by 5th columnists to fuel religious tensions in Kaduna and Plateau States.

Modified: i can see the topic of the thread has been edited and it is now moved to frontpage. But the screenshots in 2010 shows that even the poster posted it to debunk the authenticity of it. That is dishonest if you ask me.

See also Facebook link in 2014 just before the elections on this same topic. It always resurfaces whenever the political key players are looking for propaganda material. It never fails.


https://m.facebook.com/PrayForChristiansInTheNorthOfNigeria/posts/flashback-top-secret-revealed-on-plateau-and-kaduna-statesminutes-of-a-joint-mee/519486118172723/

These incisive posts and many like it from both sides have been shared on social media in Kaduna and Plateau States from way back and helped to fuel the crisis and tensions between these two religions. How many more people will die before we learn?
God bless you for identifying the trash.

The op of this thread na Bush man
Christianity EtcRe: Strange And Dangerous Substance Found In Pfizer Covid_19 Vaccines by paxonel(m): 11:18am On Apr 22, 2021
petra1:
Experts have been speaking since. Over 20 nations have ban the use of the vaccines

Even the former.vice president of Pfizer is speaking against it
do you have any article from a reliable source to prove this?
Christianity EtcRe: Strange And Dangerous Substance Found In Pfizer Covid_19 Vaccines by paxonel(m): 8:42am On Apr 22, 2021
petra1:
The effect may not be immediate.
how do you know
Are you a medical doctor or do you know how vaccines works other than how the medical world knows about it?

Because, every vaccines are expected to have side effects, but such effects should not be long term
Christianity EtcRe: Strange And Dangerous Substance Found In Pfizer Covid_19 Vaccines by paxonel(m): 7:28am On Apr 22, 2021
petra1:
Oya go take the vaccine nah make we rest . Na your blood ,na your body, na your life
ofcourse i have applied for it.

Sanwo olu took it nothing happened.
Osinbajo took it, nothing.
Femi Hamzat took it, nothing.
Fashiola took it, nothing.
Tinubu took it, nothing
Makinde took it, nothing

This is already more than one month now that these people were vaccinated

What is now the source of fear, Chris Oyakhilome and Pastors?
They will face more sanctions for spreading lies

Nobody is forcing anyone to take it, infact we nor want make una take am, we nor care.

But what is the truth
The truth remains that covid 19 infection is still there, infact people are still dying.
Christianity EtcRe: Strange And Dangerous Substance Found In Pfizer Covid_19 Vaccines by paxonel(m): 6:44am On Apr 22, 2021
Truthwords:
Scientists put a sample of one of the Covid_19 vaccines made by Pfizer under an electron microscope � and was shocked when they found strange living organisms in the vaccines. They are saying that its a possibility that those who have received the jab so far might have introduced Parasites or behaviour modifying materials into their bloodstream.

Here is the link below. WATCH AND DON'T EVER TAKE ANY COVID_19 VACCINE. YOUR LIFE IS AT STAKE

https://player3.lbryplayer.xyz/api/v4/streams/tc/Pfizer-vaccine-zoomed/ed0f11388ec32f1db3728925725d47aecada7bca/94d582e2477f57c1cecf6b352a075573629b23279698b51c34a16557882cd3ae7401e0b1b45d8710ee7cbbdb87d9fcd4/master.m3u8
lie!
That video is erosion water put in bottle, it is not any vaccine.
Bloody conspiracy theorists
Christianity EtcRe: Freewill Vs Determinism by paxonel(m): 7:31am On Apr 19, 2021
danvon:
Okay but why make one person blind and another with great eyesight, your directly making the blind person fully dependent on the other for survival
did he actually make him blind?
I don't think so.

Perhaps, he was born blind doesn't mean he was made blind as there could be artificial causes of foetal disorder such as maternal malnutrition or drug abuse.
Also, note that paturitional or infant blindness isn't hereditary, and even if it is, it isn't proof that God created it so
Christianity EtcRe: Oyedepo Disapproves COVID-19 Vaccine, Says He Isn’t Guinea Pig by paxonel(m): 10:53am On Apr 18, 2021
Assuming everyone who volunteered said he or she is not a guinea pig how will one know that the vaccine works and how will there be a remedy to the pandemic?
Christianity EtcRe: Water Kingdom In The Church And How There Operate. by paxonel(m): 8:22am On Apr 18, 2021
morinto:
Trust me there are and are operating secretly so that people wont know especially if the church is lukewarm dey will operate easily that why I created this thread as eye opener. Because most Christian are carried away by things of the world. We need to revive our prayer and fasting back in the church
lets look at it this way!
was there anywhere in the bible that any such thing like water spirit or witchcraft or any kind of evil spirit operating in the church?
Where are you people getting this idea that a believer can be possessed?
Christianity EtcRe: Water Kingdom In The Church And How There Operate. by paxonel(m): 4:30pm On Apr 17, 2021
Water kingdom in the church?
That's not true
Christianity EtcRe: Did Old Testament Saint Became Righteous Through Their Works? by paxonel(m): 4:27pm On Apr 17, 2021
What is faith?
Faith is religion.

They were righteous by their old testament religion Judaism just the way we are righteous by our Christian religion today, it's as simple as that
Christianity EtcRe: Freewill Vs Determinism by paxonel(m): 8:20am On Apr 16, 2021
danvon:
Can you explain this further? Let's say your blind, being unable to see you fell into a deep ditch and died was there any freewill involved there
He was never predestined to die in the ditch because one may ask, what was the ditch doing there can't something be done to seal it up?
And why will a blind be allowed to walk on his own without a helper was there no family member or anyone?
When you consider all these, you will see that God has given us the free will to prevent accidents of such manner, but because of our negligence they keep happening
Christianity EtcRe: Freewill Vs Determinism by paxonel(m):
danvon:
Do we have free will or is everything destined? this is the question the church never answers
everything isn't destined. There is free will concerning one aspect and another aspect determinism is the case. For instance, the ability of any organism to fly is determined by whether the organism has wings or not. But for the case of choosing between right or wrong there is Freewill
Christianity EtcRe: Mixed Reactions Over Prophet Odumeje, Comedienne Ada Jesus’ Saga by paxonel(m): 7:49pm On Apr 12, 2021
Ayuwa!
What is the diffence between Ada Jesus and Chioma Jesus?

And believe there is another Chinlelo Jesus somewhere in Onitsha or Nnewi
Christianity EtcVaccinophobia by paxonel(op): 5:55pm On Apr 07, 2021
People that are scared of covid vaccines are they really scared of vaccines or they are scared of mark 666 ?

Loveworld people
Christianity EtcRe: Abomination Of Desolation And The Great Tribulation by paxonel(op): 5:05am On Apr 03, 2021
Ok o
Christianity EtcRe: Abomination Of Desolation And The Great Tribulation by paxonel(op): 7:24pm On Apr 02, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:
Do you see and hear Satanson saying that your suffering is not real?

And that it is Normal?

Do you See how Much Satan hateth you and wisheth you to Suffer and Be in Misery and Pain?[/b]
that my suffering is not real is that what i said?

Is that how to comprehend?

Satanson

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