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YOU ARE MORE CONFUSING!!
Ok why cant you put all your comments in one post other than several? Its all scattered. Makes one lost.
I would not like to discuss Kenyan issues anymore because I am missing something in your comments.I just don't understand you at all.
The more I try the more you sound lost.
Life is good.

yeah sad that Steve passed on.Unbelievable!

oh no.
Another succumbs to cancer.
Wangari Maathai the nobel peace laureate succumbed to ovarian cancer, Now its steve!
Why does cancer take away such heroes?
RIP.

This sounds like a case study. Very simple situation to handle but ur just complicating it further op.
If I were the guy I would not give a damn. You do not order and command that things be done your way or else!!
Is this a military relationship? How many girls are out there? Threatening to leave becoz of FB pic? step!
So immature and petty.Does her life revolve around FB? You sound so weak allowing her to manipulate you.

Why are people obsessed with agents? I have noticed that many people hate doing stuff on their own even the most basic.
They prefer looking for agents who never seem to be in short supply cz they pop up like popcorns everytime an inquiry is made.
One will be seeking a cheap agent but I always ask myself,isnt it cheaper if you did it on your own? people may be busy yeah but stuff like online registrations need to be done by individuals themselves. A silly mistake could cost you an opportunity.

A guy needs his space. So do ladies.Being in relationship is not license to spread your tentacles everywhere,and anyhow.It's annoying, very irritating and misusing each other.
There's a level in a relationship where you don't need to check phones,social networks,and monitor movements.The level where you don't care if he has your pic on his desk or not.
You have a deep sense of security since you speak the language of the heart. You rest! Maturity should tell you that you cannot fbi your partner cz if he decides to cheat he will do it without u noticing. No I would not put my partners pic on my wall and I wouldn't want mine on his either.
His wall is his space with his friends. Before we met the wall was there so why should I dominate and choke it? I would want my space as well so no need for each other's pics cz we aren't even married and even if we marry its still his social space.That is how I view it.
If I need him I know where and how to get him.
I would only expect this kind of behaviour from an adolescent.Because she wants to show her man off to her friends. But a grown up? pardon me.

kenyaman:
Only Pendo98 reflects you. Upendo89/98 when clicked shows a white figure dominating your username. check it all and see

I SURRENDER ALL. You made my day!


Are you aware that s. sudan has curved out kenyan land and claim it as their own? Their map includes a section of kenya!! lol
Are you aware that sudan is not the only country that has claimed part of kenya as its territory? Did you hear about migingo ?
What about Ethiopia? Their soldiers have occupied a section of Northern Kenya and are guarding it? well the army is addressing the 3 cases.


Oh and the Hero Wangari maathai is receiving a state burial.Her body will be cremated because she hates wooden coffins.She is still protecting the environment even in death! wow!

That is the kind of talk you find on the street. Oh and on a lighter note. A dude threw an orbit gum paper on the street! The council officials saw him and he was fined $7 on the spot. Woe unto you if you dont have the cash at hand.
Finally there's a stray leopard on the streets.   It must have escaped form the animal orphanage or game park.
Maybe somebody saw a big cat and called the media houses

When were you last in Kenya?

To say the truth? You are very confusing. You are all over the place scattering bits and pieces of info.
Why can't you insert a quote/s in one post to make it easy for anybody to follow?
What I read here is based on rumours but you are not ready to dissect the info cz its what you hear people say out there in the malls/markets.Nobody is questioning you.
There's no challenge.That's why I said if you were in a Kenyan forum you would be more educated about the politics of the nation as you engage and challenge other kenyans.

Now you even assume that am 'nolongting'. ;DI have two IDs upendo and pendo and reason was because of the spam bot if you understand that is.
White 100 yr old male? I think you need a break cz you sound lost. Talking about mau mau, mungiki,uhuru, maina njenga, karua all at once and you mispell some names.
Who talks about these people anymore.Esp maina?
Its good if you stated your agenda one by one then proceed to discuss it eloquently and fluently.
Lemmie bow out and leave you to continue alone cz the more I read this the more confused and lost I get.

Was nice.

True. It seems as though UK is the ultimate destination for most Nigerians. T/F

oh cuddlemii come and explain this.

kenyaman:
ANY VOTE FOR KARUA,



a) Is a vote for a nationalist.


b) Is a vote not wasted


c) Is a vote for the future of Kenya


d) Complies with the constitution on genda parity.

e) A vote for the voice Kenya

Now at least we agree here. She's a nationalist. I would really love to vote for her.But all these men are fighting her!

kenyaman:
To be honest I do not know what your website is all about because its too shallow.Nothing much to see or read about.  Or am I missing something here?



Can you send me websites you really admire. Just link me to two or three of those. Including your own website.

kenyaman
sautiyakericho.com
sautiyakenya.com

Sorry u know at first I could not open anything.Must have been a prob with the website. I will send you links to Kenyan forums.Gosh they are so many but of course NL beats them all.
No I dont have a website.I create blogs and blog for fun nothing else.

kenyaman:
Are you a Kenyan by any chance and if so from what region? I may be able to ask you a few things.

Are you among the largest groups of ethnic population in Kenya. I am a Tivu (Tivi), like of North western Nigeria. In Nigeria I would never be an Igbo, Yoruba or Hausa Fulani  In Kenya I would therefore and therefore belong to the minority population groups. How about you? Are you a Kamba?

No am not a Kamba.But yes I belong to the BIG 5

Is tivu a tribe? from where?
Just wondering why you are really interested in Kenyan politics when you are not one and do not live there either.Not bad but you need constant updates and the media doesnt tell u everything.

Lastly. The elections were never stolen!! Wish you knew what happened. Wish you just knew.  Raila and his team wanted to declare themselves winners cz they were in the lead. Truth was, the results from the remote polling stations(kibaki's strongholds) had not been brought! It was crazy but they could not wait and they knew they would lose if they were brought in cz they were from kibaki's supporters, And when they finally came they couldn't take it. They declared war!
But I tell you Kenya is good with Kibaki than Raila. At least kenyans finally saw that if the anti pnu supporters.
See Kibaki is silent and smart.He does not act in haste like moi or raila.We were used to a president that would sack his ministers by the roadside.Moi was sorrounded by ruthless friends.

Kenya is not perfect but please its good to give credit where its due.We have seen great improvements under kibaki.

NAJIVUNIA KUWA MKENYA.

False

Most west africans are pretty ignorant about the rest of Africa.

true,Sisterly love.

El Guapo:
[color=#0066ff]True before i got married, False after i got married - Trufalse!

The poster below doesn't believe in Love?[/color]

claremont

The next person loves boobs

fatrue

The next person is a serial dater

ok am out.cant stop laughing sorry

@ shildrences
*skip.*

El Guapo:
[color=#0066ff]True! That cos i cant locate travel Sec

^^ silly you got lost!read again.

The next poster craves much for big Cørks? [/color]

game continues

vanilla.

^^ you did not ask your question.we are stuck!

true
The next person has no proof of my answer above.True or false?

true
the op has posted a similar thread in the travel section. True or false?

wait for MBJ.
Not sure though if hes married or not but hes an expert in such topics.
good luuck

Oh boy.
Seriously op take this to the family section.There are many married guys and ladies there who will offer you sober and sensible advice.


But here is my 2 cents worth.
This will be your 3 rd marriage.The first crumbled for reasons that are best known to you.
The second has to do with child
You are contemplating a 3rd one cz of child.

Sit back and ask yourself why you are getting married.Then ask yourself what if the 3rd marriage fails to bear you kids?
so many things can go wrong you know. You cannot convince her otherwise because she can read that and shes right isn't she?
Will you still marry her if she refuses to bear you kids? if not then you do not love her.You simply need a kid.
Kids are an added blessing not the only reason we marry,I know u already know that.

Just asking.what is making it impossible for your current wife to conceive? cz it can't be cs.Did the doctor warn you or her?
I know so many ladies that have done 3 cs and they are good.The doctors say that it weakens the muscles of the tummy but I think that happens when you have several of them and 2 is not several.CS and Infertility are not one and the same thing. The only reason she would not be able to conceive is if shes infertile but she already has 2 kids so what could be the problem?
A good doctor can sort this one out. She can still carry a baby to fullterm and have another cs unless the doc disapproves.

Well if you still love your wife.Keep the communication going till you both agree on something cz hopping in and out will drive you insane.
Don't despair and lose hope.I have a feeling your current wife may give in if she really loves you and is committed to this relationship.

_{Oh God and people think marriage is a bed of roses.}

lemmie guess.You took this photo from Panafric Hotel.Near NSSF building cz serena is on the opposite side.
Beautiful
The bright pic above .Is that how that street looked like in 1964? lol I cant even see the brown nyayo house,lonrho house and Nation house.
Omg its pre-colonial. 1964?? moi was still a young guy.
look at the volkswagens!

Oh your replies are kind of scatterred.Makes me miss replying to some.

Ok luos are getting circumcised not to avoid the mungikis but due to health reasons. Why do you think Aids is has been wiping out the community like plague? They finally acknowledged and they are teaching themselves nobody is forcing them now.

Now I have no comment regarding the ksh 8000/day. That is not possible. One day but not now. I mean you can raise to a sober amount but there are several factors to consider before shooting up salaries like that.

Now how do you expect a national leader to communicate to the village man/woman who does not understand swahili or english very well? how does speaking in the local dialect to the very people who elected him make him a tribal leader and not a nationalist?
There's no secret message hidden because other than the media being there to interpret, its criminal to incite at a political rally!
Its called Hate speech.The National Cohision and Intergration Commission(NCIC) chairman Mr. Kibunja hacheki na watu! talk to the few guys that have been arrested and fined and then you will realise its not a laughing matter.

And Ngilu is not going anywhere.She's a joker.As I type this her son's in law and other relatives are in court over a water contract scandal. Oh did I mention that shes the minister for water?

Look here.
Kibaki is going home hes not interested in politics after his 2 terms in office.
Raila is only kingmaker.You know guys who smell power but will never get it? yeah that is him. He spoilt his chances but hes still a force to reckon with.Cant rule him out.
Uhuru and Ruto may God have mercy.no comment. Funny thing is they have massive support back home.
Saitoti is needs an alliance but the Goldenberg scandal still haunts him
Kalonzo joined the G7.of course alone hes nothing.
Coast are still undecided as always waiting for a saviour then they will cry that they are being used.
Karua Martha. I wish people could vote that lady in.She reminds me of Wangari Maathai. Shes never been implicated in corruption,shes no nonsense she's smart and she has what it takes to be president.
If she stands I will vote for her cz she represents the normal mwananchi. She's been sidelined by the Uhuru camp because they see her as dividing the central community. She doesn't support Uhuru that's why they hate her.

Damn I better get down to work. I love and hate politics.

cheers

kenyaman:
Thus why if you told me your people group I would specifically allow you to see inside your party representative

That is your disease up there.Tribe! I told you you are almost sounding tribal. Why would you be interested in my group?
I care less because I interact with people of various nationalities and tribes. I don't limit myself to tribal politics. They suck!

kenyaman:
Are you a nurse Upendo to have this evidence?    I wonder?

What! Men must be circumcised fullstop. And no thank you I am no nurse.

kenyaman:
KALONZO NI KIGEUGEO. IF THE CONFIRMATION HAPPENS FOR ANY OR ALL THE HAGUE SIX, YAKE NI KUPITA KATIKATI.

Yes we all know that. Hana msimamo. I do not support him but I like his calm nature. Then this kupita katikati story haina ladha.It lost taste.

kenyaman:
o now tell me what you know about fairness and equality in Kenya. What about the hague/ocampo case? have u been following the proceedings cz I have and its intense.
nway.


FAIRNESS IS WHEN THE DAILY WAGES OF THE POOR  RISE ENOUGH TO WITHSTAND THE NATION'S POVERTY AND INFLATION. WHEN ALL PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE IN TAXES NOT THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS.


WHO ARE YOU FIGHTING FOR UPENDO?   Same billionaires? Millionaires? taking from the national purse and paying themselves with no fear or shame. ASHA!!!  not under the new constitution.

You are soo behind. You ask me what I know about fairness and equality in Kenya? Lemmie start with you.

1. Are you a kenyan?
2. Do you live in Kenya? If not have you ever lived in Kenya and for how long?
3. Have you ever voted?
4. Did you vote during referendum? were you in the yes or no camp and why?
5. Did you vote in the new constitution? Did you queue from morning till evening like the rest of the kenyans to bring about change?.

Oh and are you aware that Fidel Odinga ( I doubt you know who that is) was behind the maize scandal? Nobody is an angel.
The only person that has never been implicated in corruption is Kalonzo and Kibaki. (I know ul not accept this cz his followers have but not the old guy himself.)Hes too much of a saint.

Its one thing to read from internet and fight your cause behind a laptop. You wanna see real fighters? Talk to guys like Atwoli of the labour union. Come to the ground. Go to the street and let your voice be heard. Theres freedom of expression nowadys.All you need is a licence to hold peaceful demonstrations and you will be granted.
This is what you need to know.Majority of kenyans are thinking economically not politically.Politics has lost taste.There is a paradigm shift.Yeah even though for economy to thrive a stable political climate is needed but I think we are Ok infact good. I would give us a B. The ordinary kenyan will tell you about the new investor in the market and how to make things work.Not who the new presidential candidate is. Fyi we care less about hague. There are more pressing matters.Yes justice must be done but if it doesnt put bread on the table of the ordinary citizen then who has time to waste watching a trial when it all unfolded before their eyes?
I watch it when I have time.But I saw and heard with my own eyes what happened. People I knew very well,died in he mayhem.
All I want to see is peace.
Now Kenyanmann you speak the way kenyans used to speak 10 yrs ago. Corruption will never end.It only reduces and it has greatly.
Even US and Canada has corrupt fellows. You want a perfect Kenya? wake up cz it will never happen.
I would ask you to take your cause to a Kenyan forum because kenyans will engage you. And thoroughly. There are are some crazy people there that will give you facts figures statistics. Your info is a bit stale and u sound like a voice of one crying in the wilderness.

Gosh I hate and love politics.

Watch sauti ya Hague.

damn! Was wondering what Moi did to make girls run away from him yet hes retired.

Wow!

was following this befor I got caught up and 4got.
Well well

Oh and nobody even mentions Maina njenga anymore. Hes long forgotten.
No sober kenyan would even choose him as councillor. No hes not the type to lead.

And as far as luo men aare concerned? You know the other communties just find it hard to be ruled by an uncircumcised man.This is still Africa men.
I mean its like an abomination to the masais,kyuks kisiis etc. I swear that is such an issue he had better declare his position

But guess what?? Luo mean are trooping to the hospitals in masses to get circumcised.They realised that that its very important and yeah I salute them.
The stone throwing wil cease.

What I can say is this.Go to Kenya and ask any Kenyan on the street to compare the present goverment with the past.
This is by far the best.Not comparable to Kenyatta or even worse Moi. we are seeing our taxes work! that is what kenyans needed to see not the kind of looting that happened during moi reign.

This is how these politics are like. Central province is by far the largest and second as far as population is concerned.
The problem with these other guys is that they are soo divided and that is why they keep losing.
Good example.Kamba as tiny as it is has Kalonzo fighting with Ngilu!! That divides the community into 2!
Go to western. You find a community backing Raila while the remaining produce several other candidates.
Rift valley the same story. Now when will they realise that unity is power? Are they not the greedy ones?
When central with its large number of candidates is uniting to produce one? the rest are fighting amongst themelves.That is why people think that the central community is holding on to power.
Now funny thing again is this.Its impossible to make it without 2 large provinces (past).Central and Rift. The sheer numbers of voters is enough to scare away any presidential hopeful. That is why everyone wants a bit of central and rift. The want to associate with a person from those 2 places for the sake of votes.

Now this is how the 2012 politics play. Raila has lost support of the Rift cz they consider him a traitor after dropping their point man ruto and supporting his move to hague.
The coast comprising of Balala are tired of being used. They always play host then they dont get favoured when it comes to goverment positions.They supported Raila and hes done nothing for them.
Now dont even mention Raila in North Eastern. The leaders were on tv recently distancing themselves from Raila and ODM.They called him a dictator and traitor for using and ignoring them.
Central? ,Kambas have kalonzo u know that is like a dog and cat rel. with Raila.
Now hes only left with Nyanza and parts of Western cz of Mudavadi. Hes using mudavadi to gain the western vote.
Now if all the anti raila leaders team up to form an alliance as they have done now, what chances does he have?
You cannot call that buying small tribes because the leaders of the small tribes want to be represented and the best way is to form alliances with the big fish.
I am yet to decide for myself who I prefer among the 17! but time will prove. We know that people shift even the last day so its too early.
I want a leader who can lead. But whey are they not fronting themselves? what options are we left with if the guys on the field are the guys we hate to see?
We only end up choosing the lesser devil if it comes to that.

Kenyannmann.

I swear you have no clue whatsoever about Kenya. What I see is you collecting bits and pieces of old info here and there.
You are all over the place. Your politics sound more like rumour not facts.

You talk about minimum wage of Ksh 8000 per hour? eqv of usd 100/hr Are you insane? Am sorry but am shocked !!
Being president is not about ruling with emotions. No way.There's economics and politics for christ's sake.Beside the president is not responsible for making the constitution.We are and there are many other governing bodies to address such issues. Atwoli is already on that with his labour union.
What do u mean by land? My God when dd u last read the news? I see you have no clue about KACC and what they started doing.

Why are you so much against central? You sound more like a tribalist for sure.
Do you even understand kenyan politics? Ever heard of political alliances where several presidential candidates come together,form an alliance and take over the goverment? These alliances compromise of leaders from each corner of the republic ensuring fairness. They vote amongst themselves to decide who's gonna be the presidential candidate! That is how moi was ousted because no single candidate could take him down alone. Kenyan politicians have seen power in alliances.
Do you know the current alliances right now? I know 3 major ones. And guess what? so far there are 17 presidential hopefuls.
Of course that will be trimmed down through alliances. So its vain to demand that a leader from wherever stands and be chosen.It wont work.

Now u must understand that Mungiki was not the only tribal group used by politicians. Raila used Taliban,The kisiis had sugusugu,the luhyas had mwakenya,the nandi had jeshi la mzee, there was kamjesh,kosovo oh and the costarians had mmh cant rem. etc .
These were just iddle youth given money to help during campaigns.
But that was a thing of the past because youth have realised they are the final losers once elections are over.

I do not support anybody who sheds blood. Everybody is guilty including Raila.He should be at the Hague because he was the commander calling for mass actions and his troops funded the war as well.
Let everybody face the law. Kenyans are busy preparing for elections 2012.These time we have no mps' but governors running the counties. I love the new constitution so please be an optimist not pessimist.Did you participate in the referendum? dd u vote yes or no 4 the new constitution?
If you did not do any off the above then do not be so harsh because that you are highlighting are the vices citizens are doing away with.
And do not forget ,getting rid of tribal mentality is an uphill task in Africa. It will take generations to come to change this.

Ok go watch Hague.I was referring to the video on mungiki and the woman in kiambu who was talking about her son.

ok