₦airaland Forum

shadeyinka:
I read your post well Ma.However, I think you have been a little unjust in your submissions. It would be nice if these two issues were part of your write up
1. What is/are the ultimate purpose of each of the three Abrahamic religions
2. What is your suggestion(s) of a better religion and their ultimate purposes

To answer your second question, maybe I should start by asking you why does anyone need a religion ? What exactly has the worship of invisible (lol) supernatural beings bequeathed humankind?
Has there ever been a good religion in the history of humankind ?
To your first question, all three religion are unabashed about the purpose ,- social control . To have the power over the population. Notiing else.

nonsobaba:
Atiku and his lawyers are heading nowhere. He will realise it soon after the judicial jamboree he has embarked on crashes, that he can't buy the presidency with money.

It's not about buying the presidency with money.
It's about following the due process established by law to adjudicate electoral disputes, my silly, cranially vacuous friend.

Buhari disputed all his 3, or is it 4, previous electoral losses through the same judicial mechanism and process.

garfield1:
Which truth.so rigging in a few polling units now applies to all polling units abi? Reactivate your sense man.some presiding officers actually sent results derived from the result sheets to the server which is not backed by law.all polling units had result sheets,let atiku get his evidence through that as prescribed by law

Lol.
You're arguing like a child.
If Atiku can prove with strong evidence that results from one single polling unit was deliberately doctored by INEC to favor one candidate, then it becomes much easier to prove that inec deliberately doctored results from entire states like Kano, Kaduna, etc etc.
Are you just too blind to see where Atiku's lawyers are heading to ?

Excuzeme:
People like 'Oleedepo', who take fraud to another level, are described with a phrase: CON ARTIST!
But we have to respect "Con Artists" like Oyedepo because he has been able to twist and manipulate otherwise 'higher animals" to the point of stupidity!
Thieves have to be smart r they will get caught. The fact that Oyedepo is still surving in this his 'spiritual scam", is a testament ot his smartness.
It is the fish-brained victims (followers) who need a brain transplant

HigherEd:
Founder, Living Faith Church Worldwide, Bishop David Oyedepo, has berated African leaders, saying that they lack character, capacity and courage, three virtues he said they must have to move the black continent out of the woods.

Oyedepo, who delivered a keynote address during Covenant University’s 20th inaugural lecture at the university premises on Thursday, also noted that unlike their western counterparts, African leaders do not build institutions that would outlive them.

The lecture delivered by Jonathan Aremu, a professor of International Economics Relations at CU, was themed: ‘Sequencing and negotiating Nigeria’s regional and international trade agreements.’


The fiery cleric was making allusion to Aremu’s lecture where he (Aremu) bemoaned Nigeria’s indifference and lack of will power in drafting effective trade policies and negotiations with bodies such as the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), African Continental Free Trade Area (AfCFTA), Environmental Protection Agency (EFA) and African Growth and Opportunity Act (AGOA), among others.

The development, Aremu argued, has left the nation unable to articulate her interest among the aforementioned bodies.

Oyedepo, however, blamed the situation on Nigerian government’s lack of foresight and its inability to identify opportunities that would benefit the led.

He said: “It is unfortunate that many of our leaders are intellectually bankrupt.

“When confronted with some of these beautiful initiatives, it is very shameful that they often don’t know the meaning. And if they don’t know the meaning, how will they go about implementation?”

“I have often said it that our leaders lack three Cs-capacity, courage and character.

“Where is the capacity when you are bereft of intellect required of a leader? Where is the courage when you don’t have the political will to follow through with policies that will improve governance? And where is the character when all they are thinking is how to win election as many times as possible while ignoring developmental initiatives?”

Oyedepo said the leadership should take a cue from an institution like Harvard University which has outlived the founder for centuries.

If Harvard were to be in Nigeria, it would have been in ruins in less than two decades, the cleric noted.

Nonetheless, Oyedepo said not only leaders are culpable, noting that the led are as much guilty for looking the other way for too long.

This, according to him, is the reason the Covenant University platform was conceived to point out the ills in governance while also recommending solutions to them.

Earlier in his lecture, Aremu lamented that Nigeria has not been forthcoming with effective trade policies and negotiations.

He said: “Trade negotiations remain one of the most complex, challenging, and sometimes controversial issues in contemporary trade policy.

“This is more serious for Nigeria which has no current trade policy. The administrative burden of handling and negotiating trade policy is a serious concern.

“Even as at now, the country still faces technical constraints on the negotiations of multiple agreements that will serve her trade interest.

“Confronted with generally weak negotiating, regulatory and implementation capacities, the country is handicapped in her ability to engage meaningfully in all these negotiations.”

https://thenationonlineng.net/oyedepo-berates-african-leaders-says-they-lack-courage-character/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Just imagine this charlatan who became a billionaire by hawking toxic, mentally-retarding , stone-age bullshytes to millions of Nigerians.
Now he accusing his comrades in government of being I intellectually bankrupt.

Sir, if you were not intellectually bankrupt yourself, you would not be building an empire of TOXiC soup , and selling such to millions of impressionable Nigerian people.

funmijoyb:
The people that brought the drugs into the country are the major cause of this problem. I won't be surprised if westerners and northerners start dealing drugs brought into the country by Ipods.

Lol.
A classic case of cognitive dissonance.

shamsin6300:
In as much as u need attention,,,,,,,, u appear dumbest, stupid, callous, mad,,,,real mad, extra mad,,,,,, madness without medication.
In fact u re a fool,,, real fool,,,,,,,

Sharap dia.
God is a figment of human imagination, that's why it is completely useless .

advocate666:
God is very useless

Very very useless

robosky02:
"Your employee today could become your President or boss tomorrow. So be fair and considerate to people".

In July 1988,Mike Tyson hired Donald Trump as his chief strategist and adviser, and today, Mike Tyson is broke and Trump is president

NONSENSE.

Now we know why Mike Tyson is so messed up and broke. He must have followed the advice of a person who has gone bankrupt 6 times in his business career , despite inheriting an estimated $440m from his father.

Birds of the same feather........

Very silly nonsense from a demented mind.

If a mind is fixated on silly superstitions, then there cannot ever be a clear path to navigate the challenges of life.

smeag0l:
The marketers are the importers. I don't have to respond to you again cos you know next to nothing about this subject except that subsidy was 600 billion more than it was in 2017. Go enlighten yourself and then come back to discuss with me. I have a job to attend to tomorrow morning and need to sleep

Oh, subsidy was N600 billion more than the previous year ?

Oh wait ! Didn't someone say during 2014 campaign that fuel subsidy was a scam ?

So we are paying more fuel subsidy now than during the GEJ era ?
How come ?

Haven't you heard that NNPC had been reluctant to tell Nigerians, even the legislature, how much the government has been paying in fuel subsidies ?

It took the unbiased publications from the IMF for Nigerians to know that our government, the government of Mr Integrity, has been supervising and covering up the corruption and stench of fuel subsidy fraud.

smeag0l:
Like I said, the writer cannot be more vast in this subject than I am. I'm a registered engineer with the nigerian society of engineers in Nigeria that works in this industry. You don't give them the money, they shut down supplies and stifle the economy. This is why the government is giving dangote every support they can to build that refinery. I've mentioned to you people who are culpable in this subsidy scam in my earlier responses. OBJ has a refinery in Sao tome and principe. Arthur eze owns a refinery in equity rial guinea, theo danjuma and babangida also own refineries. Is it these calibre of people that you will now tell that you pay them 700 billion when you actually pay then 100 billion and they won't shout?weren't all these guys against the government in the past elections?your hate for buhari won't make you think logically. Next time when you read articles,follow the news and digest it instead of misinterpreting and misinforming people.

The hypocrisy is nauseating.
During GEJ era , the same scenario was called corruption, cluelessness, etc. Buhari was supposedly elected to right the wrongs of the previous administration. Now, you are here , suffering from cognitive dissonance, trying to rationalize why the present government should not be blamed for the brazen corruption that is costing the Nigerian public N600 billion last year alone.
Don't you guys have any shame?

smeag0l:
You are even the one that's supposed to read the article you posted before commenting. The increase in subsidy was as a result of inflated local consumption of petroleum products. Who determines what is imported into the local market?the president and the minister of petroleum ?stop commenting on subjects you know nothing about. There's something called round tripping which the marketers are guilty of although it wasn't mentioned in the article you posted. What was mentioned as the cause was outsmuggling of the products to neighboring countries. This is also something the marketers and not the government control.You're exclaiming "gosh" and asking me if I didon't see the word inflated as if when I see it then it automatically means government inflated prices. I stayed for minutes when I read your response shaking my head in pity at your ignorance.

Just read and reread your post, and see how really dumb it sounds.
Its the marketers fault, it is the importers fault, it is the consumer's fault, it is everyone's fault except the fxxing government.
What in God's name does your government ever do? What is it responsible for ?
A shameless government that runs away from any responsibility and aportions blame anyone it can find.

smeag0l:
Inflation here isn't from the government. It is from the petroleum marketers otherwise it would never work. This is common sense and I don't need to read the article to know this cos this is the industry I work in. I don't need an article writ ten by someone sitting somewhere to know what happens with my bread and butter. There's nobody that siphoned any 600billion except the writer of the article doesn't know what he's talking about. Put it out in the news today that you pay 600 billion for subridie and the next month these marketers will request for same 600 billion or shut down supplies. If you don't know something about an industry let people educate you.

So the government has nothing to do with, and should be exonerated from the inflation and siphoning of subsidy funds that run into N600 billion over a one year period ?

Then who is I charge of dishing out Nigeria's funds ?
Who is in charge ?

Oh,
The writer of a major Nigerian newspaper doesn't know what he or she is talking about, but you do , and we should accept your half baked, incoherent, innuendo-laced nonsense as the truth ?


I don't know whether you deserve scorn or pity.

smeag0l:
When they wanted to deregulate the downstream industry in Nigeria which meant that petrol can be selling at 145 naira in a filling station while it sells at 400 nairn in a filling station in another state, wasn't it people like you that were shouting?You think monies paid for subsidy isn't public knowledge?or you think the government can declare such huge amount for subsidy and then pay lesser without the marketers stopping supplies and making fuel scarce and then the news eventually coming out?There are things government can use to steal money but subsidy money isn't part of it. The main thing happening with subsidy still resides with people like OBJ , Arthur Eze, Ifeanyi Ubah etc who all have refineries abroad and just take our oil to refine there and bring back. Don't worry, it'll soon be a thing of the past as there'll be no importation of petroleum products anymore as soon as dangote finishes his refinery.

Oh Gosh!!

Did you miss the part where the article mentions the word " INFLATED " ?
As in corruption ?
Corruption running into N600 billion ?

You're busy regurgitating usual Zombie talking points. You think that as long as you mention OBJ, then viola!! , everyone gets selective amnesia .

By the way, I ask you again, who is the presiding petroleum minister under whose supervision N600 billion has been siphoned off the Nigerian treasury ?
Simply answer that question or just zip up.

Nbote:
Subsidy deductions for 2017 107billion...
Subsidy deductions for 2018 alone 731 billion
Mr Integrity at work..

Only a fool , like a really daft person would continue to buy the myth that Buhari has any integrity.
He doesn't , and has never had any personal integrity.

smeag0l:
I presented no facts?haven't you been following the Malabou oil mining lease scam proceedings and how she and the FG were indicted?please Google that first and when you are well acquainted with the facts I'll then give you the name and history of the wrist watch seller who was made a billionaire by getting an oil lifting licence from dieziani. And for your information, I'm from the south east and also work in the industry where all these scams happened so I know what I'm talking about.

https://www.nairaland.com/5126969/fg-spent-n731-billion-subsidise


Pls read the article.
N701 billion to subsidize petrol, at INFLATED PRICES in one year alone.

Is it spirits that are doing the inflating ?

By the way, who is the Petroleum minister under whose supervision this kind of monumental fraud is occuring ?
Just imagine it.
Over N600 billion cleverly SIPHONED from our treasury by those who think they own Nigeria.

Be honest to yourself and ask yourself how much of that money will find its way into the personal estates of Buhari, his wife, his children, cousins, nephews and nieces ?

You can't deceive everyone all the time.

smeag0l:
Buhari can't cover up everything cos the legislature and judiciary are there and are independent except during OBJ's tenure when he was bribing and threatening anyone amongst the legislature that won't bow to his whims. The executive usually cannot indict itself. Dieziani is involved in giving oil lifting licences to wristwatch sellers, the malabou oil deal also got her and GEJ indicted and this case was heard in italy. So please get your facts right before you come here to portray thieves as saints. It's sad that your constitution allows a lenient fine for corruption while people that steal petty things on the streets are arraigned and jailed which is why people like Dieziani and GEJ are still free today.

Again, you presented no facts, just the usual innuendos , the next necessary ingredients for propaganda. Dieziani 's only crime so , as we know, is being from Niger delta, being out of power , and refusing to grant oil licences to Tinubu and the northern feudal oligarchs while she was petroleum minister.
Is it any wonder that first portfolio Buhari eagerly grabbed for himself was the petroleum ministry? Feudal parasites like Buhari see the Nigeria's oil wealth as their personal estate.
How dare GEJ and Dieziani, Niger deltans and rightful owners of the oil wealth, how dare they think that they can control who owns oil wells.
This is the crime of Deziani.
Till date, there has been ZERO proof of fraud, looting or corrupt enrichment against Deziani.
On the other hand , members of Buhari's cabal have indicted for fraud and corrupt enrichment. No one has been arrested.
Tinibu has been seen using bullion vans to ferry cash , perhaps billions to and from his home, few days to critical elections,
against all known money laundering laws in Nigeria. No one, no corruption fighter has queried him, let alone seizing it.
Aisha Buhari has been mentioned in deals running into billions of Naira. But we don't know her source of income.
Yet, Patience Jonathan has been hounded for the past 4 yrs for no specific crime except having millions of dollars in accounts, sums she had, with proof, long before her husband became president.

Keeping deceiving yourself.
You can't deceive the majority of the Nigerian people.

smeag0l:
Wrong Sir. Evidences of the halliburton scandal and the 16 billion dollar failed power project were already out while OBJ and Atiku were still in power. Evidences of the unjustifiable and drastic drop in our excess crude account, the malabou oil field sales, sales of oil lifting licences to people who were ordinary jewelry traders and lootings by people under GEJ(here I mean ministers like Dieziani and co.) were already out while GEJ was still in power. What do you have to hold against this man except your hatred for him and the fact that he's dumb?

With all due respect, of all cases you listed, kindly mention any one person, Atiku, OBJ or Jonathan, etc that has been criminally indicted since being out of power , despite all the investigations so far ?

You mentioned Deziani. Now I ask you, kindly tell us, innuendoes aside , what crime she has been indicted for in Nigeria ?

I still find it funny that anything Buhari's pathetic incompetence and daftness is mentioned, you guys begin to mention GEJ, etc. What's the connection ? Is GEJ also responsible for PMB's disasterous second missionless journey in Nigerian governance ?

The fact that Scandals came out during OBJ and GEJ regimes is an indication that they were more transparent and more willing to face corruption head on.
Buhari covers up everything, and when acts of corruption are exposed , he pretends to be aloof and unaware.

NaijaRoyalty:
Sounds like something a looter would say...


Even Ganduje will swear to Allah that he's a saint .

Laughing out loud.


Who would admit that they are looting while still in power.

It only when he's out of power that we'll be able to see how much he , his family , and his cronies at NNPC have looted the country.

GolDRoger:
We are telling you to ENDSARS

and you are here talking about reforming and restructuring it

this man sef

End SARs for what?

Nigerians have very very short memory.

Have you all forgotten the reasons for establishing SARS in the first place ?

What exactly do you think is the problem ? The four letters S.A.R.S , or the bad and rotten policemen within the Nigerian police force ?
Very shallow thinking to imagine that ending SARS would magically cure the nation of killer policemen.

Like the president has said, a sincere and wholesale reform and better training is the solution that would benefit everyone in the long run, not the idiotic narrow minded, kneejerk call to end SARS.

SarkinYarki:
You have always been a cheat, even as taxi driver you wanted to cheat your client

You took the words right out of my mind.

Sikiratu:
True it is biblical, but so also the following which Pastor did not say
A woman in her period should not be in Church.
Don't plant different kinds of seeds
Don't eat fish with no scales such as cat fish, Titus etc
Don't eat cray fish, lobster, prawns etc
Don't eat animals that does not have hooves split n 4.
Don't dress in clothes of different materials such as silk and cotton Ankara and lace etc
In Exodus and Deuteronomy

If you do just one of these, you are guilty of all.

Now the question is...... Why is Pastor Kumuyi silent on this, yet vocal on women wearing men's cloth??

Was it not the same Charlatan Kumuyi that once called Television " The devil's tube " ?
Now the same fraudster Kumuyi is using the same Television(Devil's Tube) to spread his message of Fraud to millions of gullible fools.

Nigeria, the land of foolish people and their foolish tokumbo god.

Amagite:
The G.O of Deeper Christian Life Ministry, Pastor William Kumuyi, on Sunday said women who put on men’s wears are abomination unto God, reports.

According to the outlet, Kumuyi, who was preaching on the topic: “The Inner and Outward Beauty of Kingdom Citizens,” said the Bible specifically warned that men should not put on women’s wear neither should women put on men’s wears.

He noted everybody would frown if a preacher come to the pulpit putting on a woman’s wear as people would think he was abnormal, adding that the society seemed to appreciate women putting on men’s wears than men putting on women’s wears.

He said the standard of God would never change even if the world would change, emphasising that God frowned at any woman wearing men’s wears or men putting on women’s wears.

According to him, some Christians felt inferior because they were not copying the standard of the world, while challenging such people to keep on obeying God’s word rather than the world.

Kumuyi stated that the outward beauty that the world seemed to appreciate bred pride and arrogance, saying that the inner beauty gotten through Salvation in Christ should be coveted by all as such would lead to heaven.

http://www.amagitesblog.com/2019/04/women-who-wear-mens-clothes-are-an-abomination-unto-god-pastor-kumuyi.html

These Yeye Charlatans and their schizophrenic yeye god.

What an Insult to Nigeria.
Nigeria proudly produces the highest number and most sophisticated religious fraudsters in the planet.
Imagine Oge Okoye shunning our own local and international heavyweight miracle fraudsters like Adeboye, Oyedepo, TB Clown Joshua, Oyaks, even her own pastor Chris Okotie, to go seeking miracle fraud in another country , that we ourselves taught the fine art of defrauding fools.

What an insult to Nigeria, the fraud capital of Africa.

Omudia11:
Is this what you are taught in your Catholic church? Just imagine the lies and deceit. You can only deceive fools and people without minds of their own, not sensible people.

Even a child knows that the serpent is the most demonic and shady animal there is. There is absolutely no biblical text or anything ever written in human history that venerates serpents but you have chosen to deceive yourself just to further your Catholic agenda.

Where then do you place animals such as Lion which God likened unto himself (lion of the tribe of Judah). Lamb for it is said that Jesus is the lamb that slain from the foundation of the earth. What about the dove??

Keep lying to yourself.

Lol.

slowpoke, I guess you missed the part where Jesus enjoined his followers to be as wise as a serpent.
Now, considering that Jesus is the all wise , all knowing son of God, this would have been a monumental endorsement not only of the wisdom of the serpent, but actually encouraging his followers to act like the serpent.

However, if you disagree with Jesus on this issue, that would be between you and Jesus.

alBHAGDADI:
You also say the council was when Christ was added to the name Jesus. What you are saying in essence is that it is the Catholic Church that out the below verses in the Bible.

1 Timothy 2:5 - For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

100 %

Duhh!!!
There is something called redactions and another called editing.
Look those words up.

alBHAGDADI:
Look at all you claim Catholics invented. Where those things not written in the Bible before the Catholics came? When they not prophesied in the old testament thousands of years before the Catholics?

Duuhhhh !!! Who wrote, compiled, selected and has been editing your bible for past 2000yrs ?

These ignorant christians

alBHAGDADI:
The church that formulated all you listed is the church the apostles of Jesus Christ set up under the leading of the Holy Spirit. Last I checked, they didn't set up no Catholic Church. Moreover, all the churches they set up preceded the pagan Roman Catholic Church which is a distortion and Satanic as seen by the images you uploaded yourself.

Which church did the apostles of Jesus set up? And
Was there a church before the advent of Paul ?
And what happened after Paul came into.the scene?
The original followers of Jesus and his teachings dispersed after Paul, a Roman citizen and soldier, thrust himself into the movement and distorted and shaped it into his own worldview. Paul even admitted to.lying and making up stuff as being necessary to propagate his teachings.

My point here is that whatever was deemed original teachings or original movement of christianity died when Paul came in.
When the imperial power of Rome entered the burgeoning and now lucrative faith market, everything changed forever.

If there ever was an original Christian movement, no one knows and no records exists about what it might have been about.

malvisguy212:
sir pleatton long time......I've debate with many atheists and its seems most atheists build there atheism on Charles Darwin theory of evolution . do you no that in the early life of Darwin , they practice inbreeding ? and there motto is " survival of the fittest ? Richard Dawkins is a famous atheist and he refuse to condemned bestiality . if the moral stander of this people is questionable what will become of his follower? .

Lol.
Malvisguy. You haven't changed. Even your inner atheist hasn't kicked in yet.

For the millionth time, Atheism is not a religion or cult that requires followership.

solite3:
Jesus denounced the pharisees and the elders of his day although Jesus himself was a jew and those were the leaders who kept the scriptures.

God is no respecter of persons

Acts 10:34
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

By the way Roman catholic church is neither a true church nor the origin of christianity.

Your entire body of Christian doctrines and beliefs were enacted by and propagated by the Catholic long before any of her many children were even born.

Do you believe in the virgin birth? The Catholic invented it.
Do you believe in crucifixion? The Catholic church invented it.
Do you believe resurrection and ascension? The Catholics invented it.
Do you believe in heaven and hell ? The Catholics invented it.
And I can go on and on and on.

alBHAGDADI:
100% lies.

The Catholic Church is not the Church Christ instituted.

Lol.
For your information, the Catholic church invented the veneration your Jesus as a God by deifying him. At the Nicean council of 324, the Nicean creed was born, and for the first time, the " Christ " was added to the name " jesus " . The Nicean creed was rolled out as an Impetial edict or fiat, and the last paragraph of of creed decreed 'anathema ' to anyone who disagreed with the imperial edict. I don't need to tell you what ' anethema means and the fate of those who dared to disagree.

My point here is that there is no , and would have remained No myth of a dead and resurrected God without the mechaninations of the imperial power of Rome.
Every other church or Christian denomination are the wayward and dysfunctional children of the Church of Rome.

Deny your mother all you like, her DNA is in you.