CaveAdullam: Fear isn't the basis of human behavior. Survival and longevity are.
That's why there are tonnes of innovations, inventions, and discoveries. To make life easier and better.
Of course, they experience threat along the way, and threat creates fear. These fears are leveraged by coming up with the latest development. Fear can't be ruled out of the equation, however.
Your account of giving motivated by fear lies on this fact: "If I don't give, they may hurt me".
Hence the OP made mention of "tactical giving" which is aimed at buying loyalty.
The fear you mention is still accounted for when a man is interested in gaining power and control or not being seen as an ev!l person and getting attacked which necessitates works of charity as already discussed by the OP.
Since he's afraid of losing the attention of the people which may drive them to other opponents, he is required to give to stay relevant and announced by the mouths of those he has fed. If he doesn't want to be accused of being dominant, he does acts of charity.
On a leveled surface, humans are altruistic. There's first love for kin which extends to those genetically far off. Fear isn't the basis of this altruism. But for the greater good and survival of the human species. Although, in rough and tough times, humans show their cruel side.
Thanks.
Much of giving is motivated either by what the giver may get for giving, or by what he may lose for not giving, or what may happen to him if he doesn't give. LOVE is a more pleasant motivator, but the truth is that much of human behavior is motivated by FEAR
Nope. Fear as in, if I don't give him he might do something TO me, or NOT do something FOR me, or not like me, or dis-repute me in some way. Examples, if you don't give to the church you won't go to heaven, if you don't give to your wife she'd tell people, if you don't give in an event people will think you're broke, if you don't give a person he may no longer like you, you give to a powerful person to be in their good graces (though it is camouflaged as love), you give to a bully so he won't face you, you give to your family so people won't talk, etc. There are a thousand examples, all camouflaged as altruism, love, and generosity when it is actually self-interest and fear
The flaw in your thesis is that you fail to take into account that much of human behavior (giving included) is motivated by fear (sometimes quite camouflaged fear but still fear nonetheless)
Hohaiiiode: move the video to 0.44 seconds and start listening. Mexico is bordered with USA as you know . Is a pass for many immigrants from all over south and Central America. Mexicans included too no doubt. But over all, Mexico is a better country compared to Nigeria . There is no single parameter that Nigeria is in par with Mexico.
No single parameter? How about languages? Nigeria has 532, how many does Mexico have? Also why didn't all those people stop in Mexico. Why risk their lived to get into US??
Hohaiiiode: you guys can be funny at times . Mexico is over two times the seize of Nigeria , there is violence no doubt but saying is worse than Nigeria is not true. I live in Mexico and truth be told there are violence. Just yesterday. A doctor was killed in the same tower where my wife have a consult in hospital español in one of the safest neighborhoods in the capital. But comparing Nigeria to Mexico is very funny. There is just no parameter that are comparable please… Nigeria is my country but sir… there is non.
Even if you are talking of poverty rate. Oga the idea and concept of poverty is relative o. If you go to some of the worse neighborhoods you will wonder Al what poverty really means from a Nigerian stand point. The challenge of language is a big issue for Nigerians trying to migrate here. And by the way it is not easy as you might think. But better and more cost effective and if you relate with Mexicans and smart with leverage like mine since I have a wife. There are tons of businesses and partnerships you can go into . Mexicans are very receptive and accommodating to we blacks . But please don’t compare the two countries . Mexico is the 11 or 12 th economy in the world . And have the infrastructure for business to thrive . Only avoid some states in the north of the country and areas around Veracruz
advanceDNA: Sigh...we also went through this earlier.... That question (what of a cheating man??) is for a woman to answer.....
Saying a man can't cheat is a different issue entirely...because its a context ....and is likely drawn from a premise...
If u are a woman married to a polygamous man.....such man can't cheat..... His wives cannot accuse him of cheating because they have agreed to share penîs with other women in the first place... Everytime he flirts with another woman ..it would just be seen as a move to take another wife......same goes for a man that is married to a polygamous women...
But if course, if it's a monogamous relationship or marriage ...faithfulness is expected from both man and woman...
Oya let's not fight again.....
I will answer the question for him...
What of a man that cheats?? He should not be forgiven or taken back.....unless the wife his willing to live in a marriage that lacks trust and full of. hypertension.....
Now you get it! If he had answered the question with , "we are discussing only cheating women", that's different. But he answered the question in a way that legimately opened up an entire area for further discussion!
advanceDNA: We've been through this earlier.....and i don't have problem
The statement "Don't forgive a cheating woman" came from a premise of being hurt by a woman.......I already mentioned that it means don't forgive a cheating partner.. the person spoke from his personal experience...
but u were expecting the person to say it the way u want just because u feel hurt as a woman by the statement...... u are claiming some pseudo fairness ... It funny
.I wasn't biased because I agreed...a woman can also say " men are scum" because it will be coming from a premise of being hurt by a man ...she didn't have to say it another way to be fair or unbiased
You are being really ridiculous, my guy. A person makes a statement, "Don't ever forgive a cheating woman" , which begs an obvious question, "how about a cheating man". He could have replied all sorts of ways. He chose to reply with the nonsensical assertion that a man can't cheat! And you're here talking about personal experiences he might have had!
advanceDNA: That's an unrelated analogy I brought up...
this thread isn't about women calling men scum.... It's about a cheating woman..
..and for some weird reason....u brought a cheating man into saying u are being fair ... Which made me asked the earlier question what's fairness here....
..... Which also made me asked what's paining u when pple open thread about cheating women when in actual fact a woman cheated.........??
Ok, I see what your problem is. You were not there at the beginning. Here's the Genesis of it:
A woman is hurt by a man ..and she says men are scum..... But u expect her to say men and women are scum just to be fair?? Lol .....u are fvnny
You are manufacturing things in your head. Here's what I said verbatim: I'm simply being unbiased - if a woman says men are scum, I'd ask her if that includes her father, brothers, and sons!
advanceDNA: Me?? Biased....U are the one looking for equality where is not needed forgetting that people speaker from existing premise.....
When a woman says men are scum...she is speaking from a premise of being hurt by a man ...I ask u this ...why will she say men and women are scum just to make u the reader happy or so that u dont think she's biased....
U women don't just like hearing ur bad behavior....
You may speak from any perspective or experience you wish. I'd answer you from my own perspective of being unbiased and neutral, and fairness
advanceDNA: U are making this a gender issue...and expect pple to speak how u want..... men talk from position of men just as women will talk from position of women......
Have u not heard women say men are scum.. does it mean their fathers and brothers too are scum?? They are speaking from a premise
At the end of the day... Don't forgive a cheating partner is the advice... but individuals opening a topic will speak from their personal experience and position ...I don't get why this is paining u??
You're the one acting like it's paining you and therefore being biased. I'm simply being unbiased - if a woman says men are scum, I'd ask her if that includes her father, brothers, and sons!
See how Gandollar is crowding him😅. Birds of the same feather! But he dey try sha compared to Bubu. Can you imagine Buhari having this press conference?
advanceDNA: Thats an question for a woman to answer naaaa
I don't get why u expect a man be worried about another woman's husband behaviour
If he had just answered "never forgive a cheating man too" that would have been the end of the discussion. Instead he went on a rambling treatise about how there is no such thing as a cheating man!
zomoears: For proper perspective, I am a man who is proud of my conquest. I can get a female of any age, and it only ads to my value in the eyes of females.
I am proud that my father, as a very handsome gentleman, can still conquer women of all ages,even a 21yr old girl even in his seventies, cos nature has made it possible.
The Definition of ashawo today is very blurry cos most young girls into hookup by definition, thought u should know.
Oh, when some old man like your father seduces an innocent, gullible young girl he conquered her, but when a woman seduces a wealthy man, she is ashawo! Right?
advanceDNA: Maybe u just don't want to see it ...they are on nairaland...
Men open topics that matter to them ...women to open topics that matter to them too... why is that paining you?? I don't get why u are bothered about topics of happening in People's lives....
Seems you're the one bothered. Someone said never forgive a cheating woman. I simply asked how about a cheating man!
zomoears: So of all the differences between men and women, that’s d only thing your small mind can latch on to?
A woman that wants to be a public latrine has my blessings and curses at the same time.
A man derives his value from being a conqueror. A woman derives her value from being a chaste woman.
How do you feel if the call your mom a LovePeddler?
There you go.
Nature is not confused. It is people like you that are.
And how do you feel if they call your papi ashawo banger or chaser? So a woman banging more than one man is a public latrine. But a man doing same is not a public tool?
advanceDNA: So ...u point is u don't want a man to feel upset and rant that his wife cheated on him just because other men out there are cheating in their wives??
U know I asked u before how ur brain works??
See him. You know full well that's not what I meant. Simple: all these rantings about cheating women, but totally quiet about cheating men. Hence the original question: HOW ABOUT EL RUFAI??