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Another rubbish mentality-- that teachers are the least intelligent people. What about just having a passion for teaching, whether it be by the most or the least intelligent student(s) in the university, and how about encouraging those with a passion for teaching to pursue teaching careers; rather, some people here call teachers the least intelligent university graduates. Shame on y'all.

And some of these naysayers forget that they were taught by teachers, so, according to the naysayers' rationale, the average Nigerian was and is taught by the least intelligent graduates.

if they didn't deserve it, why didn't their opponents stop them?

I believe this story is plausible. I mean, Yakubu "missed" a goal in front of a wide open net; Kaita gave himself a redcard; they played against Argentina like they were primary six kids; the list goes on and on.

Because marriage vows are difficult to uphold does not mean that wedded couples should not uphold those vows, for to act otherwise is an implicit acknowledgment that the putative wedded couple who failed to uphold the marriage vows is incapable of rising over difficult challenges. And to the faint-hearted, do not get married, for marriage, by its very nature, presents challenges and is for the brave at heart; that is to say, if you are not ready for marriage, or if you know you cannot keep your marriage vows, please do yourself, and your putative spouse, a favor by not getting married.

It's been a while since I consumed some amala and ewedu soup. I need some real bad!!!

Instead of appreciating and commending the president for embracing technology in that he listened to Nigerians on facebook, some people here are criticizing the poor man. Facebook is an effective medium through which common Nigerians can reach him, and it is significant improvement because only politicians in Abuja, Kano, and Maiduguri could reach our previous presidents.

Accepted, all Nigerians are not on facebook, but it is safe to say that the few Nigerians who are his facebook fans and who post suggestions are a fair representation of Nigerians. And for those who are not on facebook, it is safe to say that only a facebook account separates you from suggesting your ideas to the president, even if he does not reach it. I think it is a good thing.

Some people, sha.

If Jonathan can successfully execute this privatization, that will be a great step towards reaching Nigeria's goal.

She has an admirable bakassi but a horrid (omo alata) face, but overall, I wish her happy married life.

nateevs:
[b]Private companies put money into the sponsorship of the National teams regardless of succes[/b]s.
Private companies are only concerned about image and the number of times their brand is mentioned per hour in the months leading up to a major tournament. They are far less concerned about success.

They put money in World Cup 2002/Nations Cup, 2004 ACN, 2006 ACN, 2008 ACN, 2010 ACN/World Cup; do you think it's because we think we are going to win it.

With the shambolic way we qualified for the world cup, you would except no private company will put money into football, but because they know everyone is glued to their radios or TV in hope that we "may" do well this time around, their brand name is aired.

If this decadence continues, private companies will still put money into football. This is advertising bro, not support.
In 2012, there will be even more companies willing to sponsor.

So do away with all that talk of "they won't put money in football because they know Lulu is corrup[/b]t". Are you telling me they don't know this. . . and that is why they still pump money into football.? When Glo sponsored the NPL, are you telling it was because they knew the money will be allocated in fairness? You think they don't know that the money is being embezzled. .?

Why are you making it sound like football is a capital venture to the private sector, it advertising man. . . not support.


And as long as the tune will not change, Lulu and co. will continue to feast. No matter how you look at it, it won't change. . . All the english you are speaking has been suggested for years, yet nothing has happened.

Stop referring to civilized countries. I live in England bro and I see how football is run. Nigeria is not a civilized country. [b]Many things that work in England will never work in Nigeria. The approach has to be different. You cannot implement things that happen in the UK in Nigeria. It's a different terrain and you have to speak the language that people understand to get things done.

It's time for a radical change. Something we never done before.

First of all, read this beautiful article. http://www.nigerianbestforum.com/generaltopics/?p=12955

I said many, not all, private companies will not put money into football. Go and check the reason why Pepsi withdrew its sponsorship of the Professional League.

When Glo sponsored the NPL, did you know that NPL would have received more money if the league was run properly; that is, the bidding process would have been more competitive. You talked about running things differently in Nigeria, whicht is the problem with Nigerian mentality like yours-- persistent cynicism--they go to civilized countries, see and love how things are done, and say it will never work in our country. I guess the language people understand in Nigeria is disarray. That is why our leaders travel abroad and do not want to develop our country like they see overseas because "things are done differently in Nigeria."

I never said I did not expect no private company to sponsor the NFF, but only that private sponsorship has declined over the years amid allegations of corruption. When you talk about advertisement, private companies do not need to pay the NFF for advertisement; they know their way to TV and radio stations to spend their advertisement money. Sponsorship is usually associated with brand identity.

And according to you, if private companies were raining that much money on the NFF, why does it so desperately need govt. support to function? Well, the answer is not that some private companies are not sponsoring them, but that many private companies no longer support them because many of the NFF officials are incompetent.

This is business 101, guys.

nateevs:
First of all I never mentioned to you that FIFA calls investigating the NFF interference. . So sorry I don't have a link for you. .


Secondly, lemme a paint a more likely scenario of what will happen when govt removes funding.


Lulu and co will sure have to go out and find funding. They probably will not find as much as desired.
They will probably request private funding for wages of the National team coaches, they will lobby with local and international coaches to release inflated figures of their wages to the press in return for the job.

They will lobby for money with over age players that play in fringe footballing countries in return for places in under age teams. They will push out real under age players and continue the long term destruction of our football.

These are a few of the many ways these guys will ensure the flow continues. This is the real corruption. The govt doesn't care anymore because they don't fund football. The NFF will not investigate itself. The same guys will continue to run things and replace themselves with their own.

Now who suffers? - You and I . . . Heartbreaks year after year. Disappointments, tournament after tournament.
Do you really think this is the way to go?

You either have not thought this through or you don't have a clue about how things work in Nigeria.
Any other solutions?

Many private companies will not give money to, or sponsor, any football association run by incompetent idiots. Private companies like to give money in return for publicity that is associated with success. When Pepsi withdrew its sponsorship from the Nigerian Professional League, the NFF was in chaos. Look here, maybe if Lulu had to work hard to bring money to the NFF, knowing that the amount of money he brings in is directly tied to the success of the Super Eagles and the Local league, then he will have a vested interest in the success of the Super Eagles and the local league.
It will also ensure sustainability. People are people, and you have to create a system to bring the best out of them. I am not saying Lulu is competent, but there is no guarantee that his replacement won't do the same. It will also help weed out people who are not ready to work for the NFF, instead of people who just want to assume office to embezzle govt. funds. It is the same notion of privatization, that companies with a vested interest in profitability will work hard to ensure the success of the organization. At least that it is how it's run in civilized country, with limited government intervention, save for govt. oversight.

These are several ways in which money can be generated, all of which are dependent on the success of the Eagles and the Professional League:
1) Merchandising--this is extremely lucrative, especially during Okocha years, when his jersey was sought after by fans all over the world.
2) Sponsorships -- private cos like Guinness, Pepsi would love to sponsor with huge money a well run league. Sports companies like Puma and Adidas pay a big premium to countries with winning records
3) FIFA grants -- FIFA gives millions of dollars to countries that qualify for tournaments. Super Eagles got $8million dollars for qualifying for the 2010 World Cup.
4) Appearance fees--Brazil gets million of dollars just to play friendly games
5) TV rights-- if the league was well run, they can sell the TV rights of our local league games to all these cable companies

The reason why the NFF is in financial disarray which requires that the govt. pump lots of money to it is because it is run improperly and people like Lulu know that they can sit and embezzle the govt. money. They don't care if the Eagles win or lose. If their lives depended on it, they would care more. Even if they stole money, it will be because the Super Eagles were performing well.

nateevs:
You are an absolute joker. . You talk a lot and mean even less. .


You have not provided a single way to achieve what you are saying yet you are saying others can't reason.



FIFA has not complained; not because of the president involvement or lack of, but because it's the team that was dissolved, not the federation. A clear and massive difference from what is happening now.
You are trying to force us to believe what's not in the article. . . Where in the article did you read about dissolving the Federation?



How can you prove that if Govt doesn't fund NFF, it will fund itself? And how do you know Lulu will resign if the private sector does not give the NFF money?

When the private sector does not give the NFF money anymore and the govt has withdrawn funding, how do we support the SE, Falcons, U17, U21 and U23?
How do we pay for national coaches?
How do we fund participation in competitions?
How do we pay salaries of staff in the NFF?

Is this not a total collapse of the system? Something you are trying to tell us we can't see?
Or you prefer it to happen in four years time, rather than now?


Like I said, you have no clue what you are talking about. You fellas are arm-chair analysts who think they live in an ideal world and have no idea about how the world works.
You still haven't said how we should go about this? Come up with an idea. . . Is it so difficult?

Either way, if Guinea's president had dissolved the football team, it would have been deemed political interference, based on precedent. Still, Guinea's sports minister did fire many members of its football federation as well as dissolving its football team.

Exactly my point, a football association can fund itself, if it is ran properly. And even  if govt stops funding them and they have financial problems, then all the corrupt NFF members will have to leave. In that situation, since Lulu does not want to leave his job, I would ask him to fund the NFF himself. That is how you change things and create sustainability, let the NFF officials lobby for money from the private sector and manage the money FIFA allocates to them. And Lulu should ask FIFA to pay his salary if he is asking FIFA to protect him. Since FIFA calls it interference when govt wants to shake its NFF, and Lulu refuses to resign, then FIFA should pay Lulu's salary and fund all our teams. If there is no money left, people like Lulu who are there to steal will leave.

Also, why don't you cite me an example of when FIFA calls it an interference for investigating football administration officials who embezzled money.

It is a catch-22. Police is too incompetent to protect Nigerian citizens from criminals, most of whom have guns, so there is an arguable need for Nigerians to carry guns to protect themselves. On the other hand, if you allow Nigerians to carry guns, law enforcement and the judicial system are incapable of arresting and prosecuting those citizens who will use their guns unlawfully. According to Fela, it is O.D.O.O. (overtake don overtake overtake). While I think it is a decent idea, in my opinion, currently, the prospects of chaos that will arise if guns are allowed outweigh the security interests that are at stake if we are not allowed to carry guns. We need to fix our system, first.

^^^^^^

I agree

Dr Kitaun:
Nonsense journalism. How can a sacked board still get to impeach some of their own ? A plot to make the impeached ones look the devils . . .medicine after death

I thought the board was not sacked, but that Jonathan just withdrew Nigeria from participation in FIFA events for two years. Or was the board sacked?

Lulu impeached by board

Posted: 2010-07-04 14:10

NFF President Sani Lulu Abdullahi has been impeached by along with first Vice President Amanze Uchegbulam and Technical Committee chairman Taiwo Ogunjobi. 

Nine of the 13 members of the Executive Committee met in Abuja and voted to impeach the leadership.

Aminu Maigari will now take over as interim President with Obinna Ogba as the new interim first vice President.

The decisions still have to be ratified by the full NFF Congress.

Lulu, Uchegbulam, Ogunjobi and NFF General Secretary Bolaji Ojo Oba were absent from the meeting.

Colin Udoh


http://www.kickoff.com/news/16574/lulu-impeached-by-board.php

honeric01:
Now i know you are just a blind arguer.
Please what about Government's funding of the NFF? is that not an interference?
What about Decree 101?

Dude, i am done with you, you argue the obvious and i don't think it's worth continuing. EVEN TAIWO OGUNJOBI WOULDN'T ARGUE WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO ARGUE, GO AND READ WHAT THAT WACKO SAID, IF YOU HAVE READ WHAT HE SAID, YOU WOULD HAVE KEPT QUIET SINCE MORNING. please stop disgracing yourself the way, no one pays you for typing all these rubbish.

Done with you.

By the way, go and read what Ogunjobi said on this matter:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-473233.0.html

You posted a nairaland link to what Ogunjobi said; why not post the real link? I guess your only source of info is NL. You obviously only read Nigerian papers, and, as such, you are not exposed. You are just one of those unexposed villagers who cannot reason from a global perspective. You can reason only like Jonathan and our ex-presidents.

Why don't you explain why the Guinean minister of sports dissolved its football team and its football federation without it being ruled  an interference by FIFA. Up till this day, FIFA has not sanctioned the Guinea Football Federation because their president went about it the smart way, using the minister of sports to act. If the Guinean president had done it himself, FIFA would have ruled it an interference. The link is below:
http://www.soccerway.com/news/2009/November/17/guinea-team-dissolved-after-world-cup-flop/


You keep mentioning Decree 101. Why don't you post a link to Decree 101, or post what Decree 101 is?

If govt. funding is an interference, why doesn't the govt. withdraw its funding from the NFF. It would be better for the NFF to run itself independent of govt. funding.
You don't answer my questions; all you do is answer with a question'

Answer my question about the Guinea Football Federation. You probably have nothing to say. You also have not cited any single situation where FIFA has ruled that it is an interference when a sports minister investigated football officials for embezzling FIFA allocated funds.
Everything you have said is what Taiwo Ogunjobi and what some other villagers have said, and all of you are assuming the meaning of an interference. Cite me one example of how the body that governs--FIFA--has acted in that specific situation.

I am out, y'all. Discussing with villagers is not worth it, for you discuss based on assumption. I discuss based on historical precedent and how the rule has been recently interpreted  and applied by FIFA, as they have done with the Guinea Football Federation

Jonathan is acting like the only way he can deal with Lulu is by disbanding the entire Nigeria from international competitions. Jonathan should cut-off funding to the NFF if he is worried about Lulu. I guarantee you that Lulu will resign if there is no money left to steal. As a matter of fact, it is better for govt. to cease funding the NFF, so the officials of NFF can be motivated to secure funding through non-governmental means, which I am sure Lulu does not want to do. Once private companies see that incompetent administrators preside over the NFF, they will not give them money, and Lulu will resign when he is hungry since he is there for the money. That is called acting with your brain, not with your yansh.

soloqy:
whether the congress passes it or not, he is going to do so.He already said it that he would use his executive powers meaning he would do things by fiat. You can verify yourself. There are others that were not even discussed in congress like the Guantanamo issue and the interpol issue as well as the recent proclamation on the Gay pride day were not things passed by congress.Bottomline is there is executive orders/fiats/proclamations everywhere and not only Jonathan that has done that.

When a leader feels there is something that he needs to achieve but is not able to as quickly as he would have wanted because of the legislative bottlenecks, [b]thats usually their last resor[/b]t. Jonathan is within his rights to do that as long as the government is spending tax payers money on NFF.

what happened to first resort? You compare proclamation of gay pride day--an inconsequential, unrecognized holiday except by gays--to withdrawing a team from international competitions? Dept. of Homeland Security has jurisdiction over Guantanamo and president as commander in chief of the armed forces is acting within his powers. The govt. lawyers should charge respective parties for embezzlement of tax payers money. President should invest his energy on pressing issues.

soloqy:
Very funny. A lot of times, people are quick to mention America and others but like I said earlier, executive fiats are not common only in Nigeria. Obama, whom you all dont hesitate to mention has used it a number of times already in his short administration. If it was Nigeria or Jonathan, am sure the whole NL would be on fire now. And for your info, Obama is planning to use the same executive fiat to take over the health and insurance sector(ask those who know).But where is their 'Secretary of health' as you mentioned above?

Don't say what you don't know. Obama did not use his executive fiat to take over the health sector; congress voted the healthcare reform in--the house and the senate, following the constitution. Obama did not unilaterally declare a healthcare reform. And as a matter of fact, several states have also challenged the healthcare reform in federal courts. The states still have the freedom to challenge the reform in court, even though they are likely to loose.

Give me an example of how Obama has used his executive fiat to act without consulting his secretaries (aka ministers in Naija). Abeg

cantell:
So if the sports minister was in the position to do something about the corruption in NFF, do you think he wouldn't have done it ? If the minister had the right to call them to order, he would have done so without involving the president.
Someone mentioned that the presidency and the ministry are very different from each other. Pls can you tell how different they are?
An employer(president) can still mandate his employee(minister) to do what he wants, at least in Nigeria here.(don't know about other countries)
Like i said, the fifa's immunity is with these officials and nobody can do a thing, except thru the hard way - breaking off from fifa for the time being.

So give it a rest jor!
Millions of Nigerians cannot be that daft like you think!

Since you don't know the difference between the presidency and the ministry, let me school you. The president is the leader of the executive branch of govt., with limited roles and a general overseer of the executive branch of govt. The ministry is a branch of the executive assigned to specific roles. The sensible president will allow the minister to do his job, and will appoint a new minister if the current minister is ineffective. Jonathan acted like a dictator when he is performing roles not designated to him. At least he should have allowed the minister to deal with the issues first, just like it is done in civilized societies. In America, when there is terrorism issues, secretary of homeland security deals with it; health issue, secretary of health. Only in Naija will president act like a dictator and do everything.

A president should not mandate his employee to do everything, out of courtesy and respect for office. If that were the case, then there is no need to appoint ministers, for the president might as well unilaterally run the entire country by himself, which is what happens in Nigeria--no structure and organization, just mumbo jumbo. Geez!!!!

Also allegations of corruption should have been dealt with by the judicial dept. The govt. lawyers should have brought a charge of corruption against Lulu, in the court of law, adjudicated by an impartial magistrate. That is how things should be done.

blueflame1:
Funny; In civilised societies 'Minister is not the same as government'. A ministry is a part of government, and the head of the ministry is in charge

Barack Obama, David Cameron, Etc would never usurp the duties of a minister or secretary of state and issue a presidential fiat to ban or change anything within a ministry. What they would do is replace the minister with another, or call the minister and explain their objective for him to carry out.

Its the civilised way of doing things

Thank you for setting them straight. At least there are people who have been exposed and who can still think. I think underexposure is killing a lot of Nigerians. According to that joker, the office of the presidency is equal to other branches of the govt., and can decide matters for every branch of the government.

soloqy:
Besides, disbanding a particular team is not the same as withdrawing a team from FIFA competitions

Even if it is mere withdrawal, as long as the president took the action, it is an obvious case of govt. interference. At least if the minister of sports would have acted as a neutral and mediated the communications between FIFA and Jonathan. Jonathan acted like an idiot who doesn't think, just like our past presidents. My point is that with careful planning and strategy, he would achieved his purpose without a FIFA ban.

soloqy:
Princek12, you love reading yourself on the internet otherwise, i dont know why you argue the obvious.

What nateevs was trying to make you see(I suspect he too is exasperated with your arguements), is that Minisitry/Minister is an arm of government(executive arm ). If Minister probes, its government that probes. My goodness, I dont want to think that you are slow in comprehension but you are really making it difficult for one to think otherwise.

I did get that, duh!. My point is that FIFA treats a president's intervention differently from a sports minister's intervention. For example, last year, Guinea sports minister dissolved his football federation without a FIFA ban, just to show that FIFA does not frown on sport ministry's actions against a football federation.  That is established precedent. How hard is that to understand? FIFA would have banned Guinea had Guinea's president dissolved the football federation.

And if you guys think FIFA would have taken the same action if our sports minister had investigated the NFF for embezzlement, cite a single situation where FIFA has banned a country when its sports minister investigated its football association members for embezzlement. What is so hard to understand about that? But we all know that we have been suspended before when Abacha interfered in football by withdrawing the Eagles from the 96 ACN.

nateevs:
According to Prince,

President carries out NFF probe = Government interference.
Ministry carries out probe = non government interference.

Therefore President = Government. . . .
Ministry of Sport = ?

Absolute load of horseshit!

What you did above is called bootstrapping, and it defies reason.
Guinea's minister of sports dissolved the Guinea team after it failed to qualify for the 2010 ACN and World Cup, and FIFA did not sanction them. FIFA does not frown when sports ministers take action, but frowns heavily on presidents who take action against national teams or federations. FIFA also calls it political interference. Get your facts straight. You need to investigate them for embezzlement, not just withdraw the national teams from participation.

honeric01:
Just like i said, you definitely don't know what you are saying and you're proving that with more of your post.

Let me ask you something, how do you check if Sani lulu or Ogunjobi is fraudulent or have been stealing government's money? how can that be ascertained without the government getting involved? before you can probe someone, you must have carried out investigations and before that investigation can be carried out without being called "government interference", someone from NFF (top official) must formally request a probe from the government which is never going to happen in this world we are, so who's fooling who?

the ministry of sports can carry out the investigation without it being government interference, but the president himself cannot carry out the investigation. FiFA warned the French president when he attempted to probe the French Football Fed. Jonathan should mind his business and fix Nigeria's infrastructure. What is his business with football? Why can't he dissolve NEPA or PHCN? Why can't he dissolve the police dept. and all the corrupt areas of the country? Jonathan is just like Abacha and Shagari and all the other useless prior presidents.

honeric

I have watched you type false details for a while now, but now i am ready to burst your bubbles, how is it possible for government to probe a body that has sovereignty to the laws of the land at which they dwell? DO YOU KNOW WHAT GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE MEANS?

Probing anyone from the NFF by the government is seen as government interference by FIFA whichever way you look at it.

FIFA wants the NFF to be the sole body that regulate and judge anything that concerns football in the country, either to probe themselves or not, its left for the NFF members alone and nothing else.


Now tell me, A GOVERNMENT THAT FUNDS THIS BODY IS NOT SEEN AS AN INTERFERER BUT A GOVERNMENT THAT DECIDES TO CLOSE DOWN THIS BODY IS SEEN AS AN INTERFERER, CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THIS DOUBLE STANDARD IS BEING MAINTAINED BY FIFA?.


NFF can not survive on its own, it relies on the government, so this kind of body cannot be said to be independent of the government if it cannot survive financially on its own without government pumping in millions of naira
[quote][/quote]I will answer your questions one by one.

Government Interference is when the president or the government involves itself with the affairs of football matters, such as suspending it from participation or making decisions on its behalf. It does not involve investigating association officials for embezzlement, as long as the investigation is not done by the president, perhaps done by the ministry of sports.  If the president probes NFF officials at random, then it would be interference, but if the ministry of sports probes NFF officials, specifically for embezzlement of FIFA allocated funds, then it would not be interference.

It is not true that FIFA wants NFF officials to probe themselves. FIFA does not want the president to do the probing, but the ministry of sports must gather evidence of corruption and submit it to FIFA, stating that the ministry of sports is the one conducting the investigation. Here, the president is the one doing the probing. That is an unequivocal interference.

You are right. A government that funds the NFF is not seen as an interferer, but a govt. that disbands the NFF is seen as an interferer. In this case, all Jonathan has to do was withdraw funding from the NFF. NFF can run based on money it receives from FIFA. They received $8million for this World Cup alone from FIFA, and FIFA does not allow embezzlement of its funds, for it wants NFF members to use the money to develop sports.

NFF can survive on its own. NFF receives money from sponsors like adidias, from FIFA, from the local professional league, and from companies like MTN, Pepsi Co, among others. As a matter of fact, it is better for the govt. to stop funding the NFF so it can be wholly independent from people like silly Jonathan. That is the way football is run in societies like USA. Jerseys can be sold to millions of fans all over the world.

All Jonathan should have done is to withdraw govt funds. Govt. cannot run everything, and that is why Nigeria is a rundown country.

nateevs:
Prince




Maybe u want to have a discussion. This could be lengthy but we'll get somewhere.
Since u think the decision is wrong, what do u propose?
No long statements, let's take the issues one after another.

What should GJ have done?

First of all, Jonathan should not have directly involved himself with sports, anyway. He should be focusing on solving our electricity and infrastructure problems
1) Jonathanshould have asked the ministry of sports to set up a committee to investigate the alleged corruption, citing the exact amounts stolen by NFF officials. The committee also should table how the upcoming election will be transparent and how other candidates can run.
2) The ministry of sports should table the result of that investigation to FIFA
3) If there is evidence of alleged corruption, due process should follow.
4) The ministry of sports should make sure the next election NFF election should be transparent.

cantell:
@PrinceK12,
If the Nigerian government can probe lulu and his cohorts,why use a ban instead?
This shows that those guys in NFF are unstoppable and the only thing that can get to them is a ban from the govt.
If EFCC investigates them, fifa will still see it as an interference.
They are just like ambassadors with unlimited immunity.
Any probe from the Nigerian govt can still result to a ban from fifa.
So this is a lose-lose situation.

The right thing to do would have been to start by probing Lulu, for that would have put the world on notice of the corruption, and the whole world would have seen that Nigeria is attempting to clean itself but for FIFA's intervention; it is safe to say that Jonathan is the one jumping the gun, and he banned Nigeria before FIFA banned us, a clear interference. Also you have not shown me any situation in history where FIFA has said investigating football officials who stole money by the appropriate authority (not the president) is interference. Please show me, don't tell me.

honeric01:
Stop jumping the gun, i hope you read my post very well? and i hope you saw all the questions right?

Now kindly do me a favor, answer my questions accordingly.

Start with what you understand by the word "interference"

How am I jumping the gun? You said" probing anyone from the NFF by the government is seen as interference," and I told you to cite me any historical precedent when FIFA has said that it is an interference when a law enforcement agency, [b]not the president or any direct member of the executive branc[/b]h, probes its football officials for stealing money, some of which is allocated by FIFA themselves. At least we know that the last time when Nigeria, and recently Togo, withdrew the Eagles form ACN, it was declared an interference. Investigating for stealing FIFA  and national funds is not interference

You can only talk without proof.

honeric01:
I have watched you type false details for a while now, but now i am ready to burst your bubbles, how is it possible for government to probe a body that has sovereignty to the laws of the land at which they dwell? DO YOU KNOW WHAT GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE MEANS?

Probing anyone from the NFF by the government is seen as government interference by FIFA whichever way you look at it.

FIFA wants the NFF to be the sole body that regulate and judge anything that concerns football in the country, either to probe themselves or not, its left for the NFF members alone and nothing else.


Now tell me, A GOVERNMENT THAT FUNDS THIS BODY IS NOT SEEN AS AN INTERFERER BUT A GOVERNMENT THAT DECIDES TO CLOSE DOWN THIS BODY IS SEEN AS AN INTERFERER, CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THIS DOUBLE STANDARD IS BEING MAINTAINED BY FIFA?.


NFF can not survive on its own, it relies on the government, so this kind of body cannot be said to be independent of the government if it cannot survive financially on its own without government pumping in millions of nairas.

Cite the FIFA rule and give me a historical precedent of when the law enforcement of a country investigated corrupt football officials (especially those who stole money allocated by the country in which they sit and money allocated by FIFA themselves) were adjudged  by FIFA to have interfered with football.

blueflame1:
Right on point. It is the little things like this that tell us the mentality and real desires of the people. After all a wise man said a country deserves the leadership it gets, cos it is from amongst the people the leaders emerge. I always though it didnt apply to naija, now i know better.

I always thought the same, too, that it was a fluke that incompetent leaders became presidents of Nigeria. This issue has opened my eyes to see that an appreciable amount of Nigerians think like the leaders, they decide to take a step without evaluating each and every possible ramification of the  proposed step, and whether such steps will be counterproductive on the long run.

I am yet to see how Jonathan has stated any articulable procedures to revive the NFF that made it necessary to take this drastic action.  All he stated was that it was necessary. There is no transparency at all. At least he would have started by charging them with corruption, making sure he followed the rule of law. This  Jonathan may not even know the meaning of rule of law.

I still can't see why you suspend the teams of U 17, U 20, U23, both men and women, because the Super Eagles did not advance past the first round. The corrupt people who caused the problem are walking free while the budding youths who participate in sports will suffer because of Lulu's acts.

The amount of people who have supported this ban shows that Nigeria's problem is its people, and not just the leaders. Majority of the people think just like the leaders: they have a good intent for a change but lack don't take the proper steps in effectuating that change, and don't think about the repercussions of the proposed steps. Jonathan as clearly shown he has no regard for the rule of law, and all these people are supporting him because it appears to be seemingly in their favor.

When this same Jonathan now bans the internet and cable TV and cell phone from cos from operating because there is some corruption somewhere, or when he starts to act like Abacha by arresting and killing people without following the rule of law, then you guys will start crying. Jonathan is showing the qualities of a dictator like Abacha and Babangida.

consultmartins:
Do you how many Nigerian fainted because of the goal chances super eagles missed? Abeg, i support the ban.

so ban the Super Eagles and the U17, U20, Olympic teams of both the men and women because Yakubu and Martins missed goals? Are you kidding me?